[LUTE] Re: Theorbo shipping within the U.S
I introduce some pictures, Theorbo shipping using DHL. Please refer my blog. http://kakitoshilute.blogspot.com/2011/03/theorbo-shipping-using-dhl.html Toshiaki Kakinami E-mail : tk...@orchid.plala.or.jp Blog : http://kakitoshilute.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Stephen Stubbs Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 10:16 PM To: Lute List Subject: [LUTE] Re: Theorbo shipping within the U.S Hello Kakinami, Actually, I'm glad you sent this post because DHL is shipping within the United States and I forgot about them as a possibility. Thank you, The Other Stephen Stubbs Champaign, IL __ From: T.Kakinami tk...@orchid.plala.or.jp To: howard posner howardpos...@ca.rr.com; Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Tue, March 22, 2011 7:54:22 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Theorbo shipping within the U.S Sorry, this is non U.S.-related. Kakinami -Original Message- From: [1]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:[2]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of T.Kakinami Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 9:48 PM To: 'howard posner'; 'Lutelist' Subject: [LUTE] Re: Theorbo shipping within the U.S I have received my theorbo from Italy to Japan last month. DHL was used. There is no damage on my theorbo and a Kingham case. Lute maker (sender) is Mr. Paolo Busato. Toshiaki Kakinami E-mail : [3]tk...@orchid.plala.or.jp Blog : [4]http://kakitoshilute.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: [5]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:[6]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of howard posner Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 5:30 AM To: Lutelist Subject: [LUTE] Theorbo shipping within the U.S Wondering if anyone's shipped a big instrument lately, and has any recommendations. To get on or off this list see list information at [7]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu 2. mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu 3. mailto:tk...@orchid.plala.or.jp 4. http://kakitoshilute.blogspot.com/ 5. mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu 6. mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu 7. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Theorbo shipping within the U.S
I have received my theorbo from Italy to Japan last month. DHL was used. There is no damage on my theorbo and a Kingham case. Lute maker (sender) is Mr. Paolo Busato. Toshiaki Kakinami E-mail : tk...@orchid.plala.or.jp Blog : http://kakitoshilute.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of howard posner Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 5:30 AM To: Lutelist Subject: [LUTE] Theorbo shipping within the U.S Wondering if anyone's shipped a big instrument lately, and has any recommendations. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Theorbo shipping within the U.S
Sorry, this is non U.S.-related. Kakinami -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of T.Kakinami Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 9:48 PM To: 'howard posner'; 'Lutelist' Subject: [LUTE] Re: Theorbo shipping within the U.S I have received my theorbo from Italy to Japan last month. DHL was used. There is no damage on my theorbo and a Kingham case. Lute maker (sender) is Mr. Paolo Busato. Toshiaki Kakinami E-mail : tk...@orchid.plala.or.jp Blog : http://kakitoshilute.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of howard posner Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 5:30 AM To: Lutelist Subject: [LUTE] Theorbo shipping within the U.S Wondering if anyone's shipped a big instrument lately, and has any recommendations. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Theorbo shipping within the U.S
Hello Kakinami, Actually, I'm glad you sent this post because DHL is shipping within the United States and I forgot about them as a possibility. Thank you, The Other Stephen Stubbs Champaign, IL __ From: T.Kakinami tk...@orchid.plala.or.jp To: howard posner howardpos...@ca.rr.com; Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Tue, March 22, 2011 7:54:22 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Theorbo shipping within the U.S Sorry, this is non U.S.-related. Kakinami -Original Message- From: [1]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:[2]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of T.Kakinami Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 9:48 PM To: 'howard posner'; 'Lutelist' Subject: [LUTE] Re: Theorbo shipping within the U.S I have received my theorbo from Italy to Japan last month. DHL was used. There is no damage on my theorbo and a Kingham case. Lute maker (sender) is Mr. Paolo Busato. Toshiaki Kakinami E-mail : [3]tk...@orchid.plala.or.jp Blog : [4]http://kakitoshilute.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: [5]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:[6]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of howard posner Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 5:30 AM To: Lutelist Subject: [LUTE] Theorbo shipping within the U.S Wondering if anyone's shipped a big instrument lately, and has any recommendations. To get on or off this list see list information at [7]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu 2. mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu 3. mailto:tk...@orchid.plala.or.jp 4. http://kakitoshilute.blogspot.com/ 5. mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu 6. mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu 7. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Theorbo shipping within the U.S
An interesting point is that the damage to my (now someone else's) theorbo came not during shipping but during the customs inspection. The case was an ultra-hardshell case by Jiri Bednar, but the damage to the peg was most likely the result of customs officials taking it roughly in and out of the case while it was stuck in customs. No Kingham or IKA case can protect against that sort of idiocy. Though it might not be relevant here, those shipping instruments to the US from another country should remember that they will be subject to the terms of the Lacey Act governing the importing of wood products. There's lots of additional paperwork to fill out in order to be compliant with the act, so make sure you know the history of the instrument and the sort of wood out of which it's made. This gave me huge problems. Graham Freeman On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 4:29 PM, howard posner [1]howardpos...@ca.rr.com wrote: Wondering if anyone's shipped a big instrument lately, and has any recommendations. To get on or off this list see list information at [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- Dr. Graham Freeman Ph. D Musicology University of Toronto [3]freeman.gra...@gmail.com -- References 1. mailto:howardpos...@ca.rr.com 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html 3. mailto:freeman.gra...@gmail.com
[LUTE] Re: Theorbo shipping within the U.S
Secure the neck inside the case--in the event of a swift drop, that will go. Most cases have too much play in the neck, they need to be braces with foam or bubbles. Check if it possible to reduce the sideways compression of the case. You may be able to drill a tinyhole trought the flap that connects to the top and anchor it to the side with some insulated copper wire or even a nylon string Consider a cardboard box with bubble wrap inside. Don't over reinforce the box, it's just a case for the bubbles plus the extra protection of the cardboard. For the ultimate, spring loaded case. But lots of work for that... To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Theorbo shipping within the U.S
My short DHL story: They sent the instrument, DHL messed up the paperwork. I had to send the instrument BACK to Amsterdam, and then BACK to America. Nice, huh? Three trips. dt At 06:15 AM 3/22/2011, you wrote: Hello Kakinami, Actually, I'm glad you sent this post because DHL is shipping within the United States and I forgot about them as a possibility. Thank you, The Other Stephen Stubbs Champaign, IL To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Theorbo shipping within the U.S
I have sold a couple of instruments on Wayne's list in the past year and bought another, which was shipped to me from the UK. The onen from the UK came DHL last December and there was a week when I am pretty sure DHL did not have a clue where it was. I called several times a day and can guarantee you that their employees are trained to say reassuring things. I finally got the instrument when a wonderful lady in the San Francisco warehouse heard my story, found the instrument and put it in her car on her way home from work to hand deliver it to me in the local Starbuck's warehouse. About 2 months later I got a letter from DHL asking me to pay some duty and recently I have had a letter from the California tax people wanting tax because I bought something from outside the country. I don't mind paying, but it seem that they are very disorganized not to ask for the money before I got the instrument. The 2 instruments I sold were shipped Fed Ex ground and things worked great. The only challenge was getting a box big enough to put the instruments into with a lot of bubble wrap and packaging around it. I called a local luthier and he recommended the biggest box that UHaul sells and it worked great. Nancy At 01:29 PM 3/21/2011, howard posner wrote: Wondering if anyone's shipped a big instrument lately, and has any recommendations. To get on or off this list see list information at [1]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html Nancy Carlin Associates P.O. Box 6499 Concord, CA 94524 USA phone 925/686-5800 fax 925/680-2582 web sites - [2]www.nancycarlinassociates.com [3]www.groundsanddivisions.info Representing: FROM WALES - Crasdant Carreg Lafar, FROM ENGLAND - Jez Lowe Jez Lowe The Bad Pennies, and now representing EARLY MUSIC - The Venere Lute Quartet, The Good Pennyworths Morrongiello Young Administrator THE LUTE SOCIETY OF AMERICA web site - [4]http://LuteSocietyofAmerica.org -- References 1. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 2. http://www.nancycarlinassociates.com/ 3. http://www.groundsanddivisions.info/ 4. http://lutesocietyofamerica.org/
[LUTE] Re: Theorbo shipping within the U.S
My experience was similar to Nancy's, but with UPS. They had no idea about the status of the instrument, it got stuck in customs, and the buyer got stuck with a huge tax bill for a bunch of things of which we were never made aware. It also arrived with a small amount of damage to a peg. I don't know about the US Postal Service (I'm in Canada), but I've always found Canada Post excellent for shipping such things. Efficient, cheap, and they know where thing are. UPS also vastly overcharged me for packaging, which was done with something less than skilled hands. FedEx might be the way to go, but I'd also see if the Postal Service offers a comparable service for a reasonable price. Best, Graham Freeman On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 5:08 PM, Nancy Carlin [1]na...@nancycarlinassociates.com wrote: I have sold a couple of instruments on Wayne's list in the past year and bought another, which was shipped to me from the UK. The onen from the UK came DHL last December and there was a week when I am pretty sure DHL did not have a clue where it was. I called several times a day and can guarantee you that their employees are trained to say reassuring things. I finally got the instrument when a wonderful lady in the San Francisco warehouse heard my story, found the instrument and put it in her car on her way home from work to hand deliver it to me in the local Starbuck's warehouse. About 2 months later I got a letter from DHL asking me to pay some duty and recently I have had a letter from the California tax people wanting tax because I bought something from outside the country. I don't mind paying, but it seem that they are very disorganized not to ask for the money before I got the instrument. The 2 instruments I sold were shipped Fed Ex ground and things worked great. The only challenge was getting a box big enough to put the instruments into with a lot of bubble wrap and packaging around it. I called a local luthier and he recommended the biggest box that UHaul sells and it worked great. Nancy At 01:29 PM 3/21/2011, howard posner wrote: Wondering if anyone's shipped a big instrument lately, and has any recommendations. To get on or off this list see list information at [1][2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html Nancy Carlin Associates P.O. Box 6499 Concord, CA 94524 USA phone [3]925/686-5800 fax [4]925/680-2582 web sites - [2][5]www.nancycarlinassociates.com [3][6]www.groundsanddivisions.info Representing: FROM WALES - Crasdant Carreg Lafar, FROM ENGLAND - Jez Lowe Jez Lowe The Bad Pennies, and now representing EARLY MUSIC - The Venere Lute Quartet, The Good Pennyworths Morrongiello Young Administrator THE LUTE SOCIETY OF AMERICA web site - [4][7]http://LuteSocietyofAmerica.org -- References 1. [8]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 2. [9]http://www.nancycarlinassociates.com/ 3. [10]http://www.groundsanddivisions.info/ 4. [11]http://lutesocietyofamerica.org/ -- Dr. Graham Freeman Ph. D Musicology University of Toronto [12]freeman.gra...@gmail.com -- References 1. mailto:na...@nancycarlinassociates.com 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html 3. tel:925%2F686-5800 4. tel:925%2F680-2582 5. http://www.nancycarlinassociates.com/ 6. http://www.groundsanddivisions.info/ 7. http://LuteSocietyofAmerica.org/ 8. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html 9. http://www.nancycarlinassociates.com/ 10. http://www.groundsanddivisions.info/ 11. http://lutesocietyofamerica.org/ 12. mailto:freeman.gra...@gmail.com
[LUTE] Re: Theorbo shipping within the U.S
I am a newbie lute player who had a Dan Larson lute shipped from Duluth, MN to Madison, WI last spring -- via FedEx. It was one of the easier shipping experiences I have ever lived through -- the lute was very well packed, in excellent condition upon arrival, and my three cats have been playing with the very large cardboard box ever since, which is a plus from their point of view. -- Catherine Arnott Smith, PhD Assistant Professor School of Library and Information Studies University of Wisconsin-Madison Music is neither old nor modern: it is either good or bad music, and the date at which it was written has no significance whatever. (Peter Warlock - The Sackbut - 1926) Be sure you choose what you believe and know why you believe it, because if you don't choose your beliefs, you may be certain that some belief, and probably not a very creditable one, will choose you. Robertson Davies, The Manticore (London: Penguin, 1972; pp. 477-478) To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Theorbo shipping within the U.S
The good things about Fed Ex are their tracking system and insurance policies. When I have applied for work visas for non-American musicians Fed Ex has been great both in the US and in delivering paperwork to other parts of the world. But nobody ever said they were cheap. Nancy At 03:03 PM 3/21/2011, Graham Freeman wrote: My experience was similar to Nancy's, but with UPS. They had no idea about the status of the instrument, it got stuck in customs, and the buyer got stuck with a huge tax bill for a bunch of things of which we were never made aware. It also arrived with a small amount of damage to a peg. I don't know about the US Postal Service (I'm in Canada), but I've always found Canada Post excellent for shipping such things. Efficient, cheap, and they know where thing are. UPS also vastly overcharged me for packaging, which was done with something less than skilled hands. FedEx might be the way to go, but I'd also see if the Postal Service offers a comparable service for a reasonable price. Best, Graham Freeman On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 5:08 PM, Nancy Carlin [1]na...@nancycarlinassociates.com wrote: I have sold a couple of instruments on Wayne's list in the past year and bought another, which was shipped to me from the UK. The onen from the UK came DHL last December and there was a week when I am pretty sure DHL did not have a clue where it was. I called several times a day and can guarantee you that their employees are trained to say reassuring things. I finally got the instrument when a wonderful lady in the San Francisco warehouse heard my story, found the instrument and put it in her car on her way home from work to hand deliver it to me in the local Starbuck's warehouse. About 2 months later I got a letter from DHL asking me to pay some duty and recently I have had a letter from the California tax people wanting tax because I bought something from outside the country. I don't mind paying, but it seem that they are very disorganized not to ask for the money before I got the instrument. The 2 instruments I sold were shipped Fed Ex ground and things worked great. The only challenge was getting a box big enough to put the instruments into with a lot of bubble wrap and packaging around it. I called a local luthier and he recommended the biggest box that UHaul sells and it worked great. Nancy At 01:29 PM 3/21/2011, howard posner wrote: Wondering if anyone's shipped a big instrument lately, and has any recommendations. To get on or off this list see list information at [1][2][1] http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html Nancy Carlin Associates P.O. Box 6499 Concord, CA 94524 USA phone [3]925/686-5800 fax [4]925/680-2582 web sites - [2][5]www.nancycarlinassociates.com [3][6]www.groundsanddivisions.info Representing: FROM WALES - Crasdant Carreg Lafar, FROM ENGLAND - Jez Lowe Jez Lowe The Bad Pennies, and now representing EARLY MUSIC - The Venere Lute Quartet, The Good Pennyworths Morrongiello Young Administrator THE LUTE SOCIETY OF AMERICA web site - [4][7]http://LuteSocietyofAmerica.org -- References 1. [8]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 2. [9]http://www.nancycarlinassociates.com/ 3. [10]http://www.groundsanddivisions.info/ 4. [11]http://lutesocietyofamerica.org/ -- Dr. Graham Freeman Ph. D Musicology University of Toronto [12]freeman.gra...@gmail.com -- References 1. [2]mailto:na...@nancycarlinassociates.com 2. [3]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html 3. tel:925%2F686-5800 4. tel:925%2F680-2582 5. [4]http://www.nancycarlinassociates.com/ 6. [5]http://www.groundsanddivisions.info/ 7. [6]http://LuteSocietyofAmerica.org/ 8. [7]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html 9. [8]http://www.nancycarlinassociates.com/ 10. [9]http://www.groundsanddivisions.info/ 11. [10]http://lutesocietyofamerica.org/ 12. [11]mailto:freeman.gra...@gmail.com Nancy Carlin Associates P.O. Box
[LUTE] Re: Theorbo shipping within the U.S
Non US-related. I had a guitar shipped to me through UPS within Europe recently. Supplier packed the instrument: Guitar in case. Bubble wrap (huge specimen, like balloons). Sturdy box. Foam corners, serious impact/shock absorbers. Another sturdy box. UPS rang the door when I wasn't in and left a note about a 'big box'. It sure was. Guitar was safe, in tune even! David - guitar is lovingly referred to as 'grote doos' ever since On 21 March 2011 21:29, howard posner howardpos...@ca.rr.com wrote: Wondering if anyone's shipped a big instrument lately, and has any recommendations. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- *** David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com www.davidvanooijen.nl ***
[LUTE] Re: Theorbo shipping within the U.S
My theorbo, which I think is pretty much the same as Howard's, came (years ago) from Germany via UPS. Things to be careful of: * UPS, and probably the others, have size limitations - maximum on length + width + height (or length + circumference, I forget which). The theorbo in its box was right at the limit. * Make sure the instrument can't move in the case. Mine shifted in the case and sheared off a peg on the upper pegbox. (When it moved the first thing that encountered the top of the case was a peg.) Fortunately it was a spare peg for an alternate stringing and I just super-glued it back together. Wedge some foam between the top of the case and the sturdy part of the upper pegbox. ..Bob To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Theorbo shipping within the U.S
If you look at FedEx's insurance policies ( http://www.fedex.com/us/service-guide/terms/express-ground/ ) you will see that.. 6. Shipments (packages or freight) containing all or part of the following items are limited to a maximum declared value of US$1,000: Guitars and other musical instruments that are more than 20 years old, and customized or personalized musical instruments. I believe that all theorbos are custom, or old. So be careful! Wayne Begin forwarded message: From: Nancy Carlin na...@nancycarlinassociates.com The good things about Fed Ex are their tracking system and insurance policies. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
