[LUTE] Re: korg lca-120
That makes the difference. It wasnt mentioned on their site. However someone wrote that they are working on the software for LCA120 at the moment (which would explain why it is not on US Korg.com site) and there is a chance that we will see a new improved version with bigger memory capacity (to store various temperament presets) and other lacking options. This would make an ideal tuner for a concert situation instead of a traditional bulky model. I am looking forward to it. Thanks to all that contributed to the thread. Jaroslaw W dniu 2012-02-10 18:48, Sean Smith pisze: From what I read of the reviews it's just the thing if equal temperment is your goal. It will accept *one* other temperment that you'll have to input yourself. From a review on Amazon: "We specifically wanted a tuner that could do non-equal temperament (if you don't know what I mean by that, then this review might not be very helpful to you). This one is programmable, so I figured it would be fine... We'll mostly do 1/4 comma meantone, it's probably a pre-programmed setting. No. There are no preprogrammed settings. And you can only store one "program", so I hope we don't want to try a different tuning any time soon. Furthermore, there was no feature to tune one octave and copy those settings to other octaves, so I had to make a spreadsheet, calculate all of the cents displacements for all of the octaves, and individually add each one. As I said, I hope we don't want to try a different tuning any time soon" I won't be running out to get one. Sean On Feb 10, 2012, at 9:30 AM, Jaroslaw Lipski wrote: I am not sure if this is correct as it appears on Korg.uk http://www.korg.co.uk/products/tuners/lca120/tu_lca120.asp It is being sold by many dealers online too. Jaroslaw W dniu 2012-02-10 17:41, David Smith pisze: One consideration might be that the LCA-120 appears to no longer be made... Sent from my iPhone On Feb 10, 2012, at 2:44 AM, Jaroslaw Lipski wrote: Yes, Thomann has it even cheaper which makes me think even more if I really need those other features. LCA120 has a line in too. The accuracy should be the same as it is meant for orchestral instruments. The design is really nice and handy - after folding it fits easily in any jacket pocket and can be kept safely on a music stand (as it is flat). Big screen makes it even more convenient for a concert situation. My main concern is preset programming feature which I haven't had opportunity to try. Otherwise it looks to me like everything I need during a concert or rehearsal. But obviously anyone of you that had any experience with LCA120 is welcomed to comment. I know OT120, it is good but not absolutely necessary in my opinion. The main reason for not using cheaper equivalents was a lack of temperament presets. LCA 120 has it (once you programme it). So... Anyway, thanks for a post All best Jaroslaw W dniu 2012-02-10 09:49, hera caius pisze: On Thomann: OT120 - 91 euro LCA120 - 30 euro It means it is 3x cheaper. Obviously the OT120 has much more features. I use OT120 from 2007 and it was perfect for all situations and all instruments including Harpsichord, Positif Organ, Viola da Gamba, Violin, Baroque flute and all my lutes and guitars.It also has line in and out for more electric and amplified signal. But hey, that's my opinion... Good luck, Caius --- On Thu, 2/9/12, Jaroslaw Lipski wrote: From: Jaroslaw Lipski Subject: [LUTE] korg lca-120 To: "lute@cs.dartmouth.edu" Date: Thursday, February 9, 2012, 5:40 PM Anyone using Korg LCA-120? I just wonder if the difference between this model and OT-120 is worth paying almost twice as much money. My first impression is that what is unique for OT-120 is "Sound back" mode and eight presets for historical temperaments, however one can programme his own presets in LCA-120, so in this respect the difference doesn't seem to be huge. On the other hand LCA-120 is very handy, flat and has a big LCD which is very good for a concert situation. Any thoughts? All best Jaroslaw To get on or off this list see list information at [1]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: korg lca-120
In the US it does not appear on the korg site and support indicates it is no longer available. Same message on US Amazon site. It must be different in other countries. David Sent from my iPhone On Feb 10, 2012, at 9:30 AM, Jaroslaw Lipski wrote: > I am not sure if this is correct as it appears on Korg.uk > http://www.korg.co.uk/products/tuners/lca120/tu_lca120.asp > It is being sold by many dealers online too. > > Jaroslaw > > > W dniu 2012-02-10 17:41, David Smith pisze: >> One consideration might be that the LCA-120 appears to no longer be made... >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Feb 10, 2012, at 2:44 AM, Jaroslaw Lipski wrote: >> >>> Yes, Thomann has it even cheaper which makes me think even more if I really >>> need those other features. LCA120 has a line in too. The accuracy should >>> be the same as it is meant for orchestral instruments. The design is really >>> nice and handy - after folding it fits easily in any jacket pocket and can >>> be kept safely on a music stand (as it is flat). Big screen makes it even >>> more convenient for a concert situation. My main concern is preset >>> programming feature which I haven't had opportunity to try. Otherwise it >>> looks to me like everything I need during a concert or rehearsal. But >>> obviously anyone of you that had any experience with LCA120 is welcomed to >>> comment. I know OT120, it is good but not absolutely necessary in my >>> opinion. The main reason for not using cheaper equivalents was a lack of >>> temperament presets. LCA 120 has it (once you programme it). So... >>> Anyway, thanks for a post >>> >>> All best >>> >>> Jaroslaw >>> >>> >>> W dniu 2012-02-10 09:49, hera caius pisze: On Thomann: OT120 - 91 euro LCA120 - 30 euro It means it is 3x cheaper. Obviously the OT120 has much more features. I use OT120 from 2007 and it was perfect for all situations and all instruments including Harpsichord, Positif Organ, Viola da Gamba, Violin, Baroque flute and all my lutes and guitars.It also has line in and out for more electric and amplified signal. But hey, that's my opinion... Good luck, Caius --- On Thu, 2/9/12, Jaroslaw Lipski wrote: From: Jaroslaw Lipski Subject: [LUTE] korg lca-120 To: "lute@cs.dartmouth.edu" Date: Thursday, February 9, 2012, 5:40 PM Anyone using Korg LCA-120? I just wonder if the difference between this model and OT-120 is worth paying almost twice as much money. My first impression is that what is unique for OT-120 is "Sound back" mode and eight presets for historical temperaments, however one can programme his own presets in LCA-120, so in this respect the difference doesn't seem to be huge. On the other hand LCA-120 is very handy, flat and has a big LCD which is very good for a concert situation. Any thoughts? All best Jaroslaw To get on or off this list see list information at [1]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html >>> >> >> >> > >
[LUTE] Re: korg lca-120
From what I read of the reviews it's just the thing if equal temperment is your goal. It will accept *one* other temperment that you'll have to input yourself. From a review on Amazon: "We specifically wanted a tuner that could do non-equal temperament (if you don't know what I mean by that, then this review might not be very helpful to you). This one is programmable, so I figured it would be fine... We'll mostly do 1/4 comma meantone, it's probably a pre- programmed setting. No. There are no preprogrammed settings. And you can only store one "program", so I hope we don't want to try a different tuning any time soon. Furthermore, there was no feature to tune one octave and copy those settings to other octaves, so I had to make a spreadsheet, calculate all of the cents displacements for all of the octaves, and individually add each one. As I said, I hope we don't want to try a different tuning any time soon" I won't be running out to get one. Sean On Feb 10, 2012, at 9:30 AM, Jaroslaw Lipski wrote: I am not sure if this is correct as it appears on Korg.uk http://www.korg.co.uk/products/tuners/lca120/tu_lca120.asp It is being sold by many dealers online too. Jaroslaw W dniu 2012-02-10 17:41, David Smith pisze: One consideration might be that the LCA-120 appears to no longer be made... Sent from my iPhone On Feb 10, 2012, at 2:44 AM, Jaroslaw Lipski wrote: Yes, Thomann has it even cheaper which makes me think even more if I really need those other features. LCA120 has a line in too. The accuracy should be the same as it is meant for orchestral instruments. The design is really nice and handy - after folding it fits easily in any jacket pocket and can be kept safely on a music stand (as it is flat). Big screen makes it even more convenient for a concert situation. My main concern is preset programming feature which I haven't had opportunity to try. Otherwise it looks to me like everything I need during a concert or rehearsal. But obviously anyone of you that had any experience with LCA120 is welcomed to comment. I know OT120, it is good but not absolutely necessary in my opinion. The main reason for not using cheaper equivalents was a lack of temperament presets. LCA 120 has it (once you programme it). So... Anyway, thanks for a post All best Jaroslaw W dniu 2012-02-10 09:49, hera caius pisze: On Thomann: OT120 - 91 euro LCA120 - 30 euro It means it is 3x cheaper. Obviously the OT120 has much more features. I use OT120 from 2007 and it was perfect for all situations and all instruments including Harpsichord, Positif Organ, Viola da Gamba, Violin, Baroque flute and all my lutes and guitars.It also has line in and out for more electric and amplified signal. But hey, that's my opinion... Good luck, Caius --- On Thu, 2/9/12, Jaroslaw Lipski wrote: From: Jaroslaw Lipski Subject: [LUTE] korg lca-120 To: "lute@cs.dartmouth.edu" Date: Thursday, February 9, 2012, 5:40 PM Anyone using Korg LCA-120? I just wonder if the difference between this model and OT-120 is worth paying almost twice as much money. My first impression is that what is unique for OT-120 is "Sound back" mode and eight presets for historical temperaments, however one can programme his own presets in LCA-120, so in this respect the difference doesn't seem to be huge. On the other hand LCA-120 is very handy, flat and has a big LCD which is very good for a concert situation. Any thoughts? All best Jaroslaw To get on or off this list see list information at [1]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: korg lca-120
I am not sure if this is correct as it appears on Korg.uk http://www.korg.co.uk/products/tuners/lca120/tu_lca120.asp It is being sold by many dealers online too. Jaroslaw W dniu 2012-02-10 17:41, David Smith pisze: One consideration might be that the LCA-120 appears to no longer be made... Sent from my iPhone On Feb 10, 2012, at 2:44 AM, Jaroslaw Lipski wrote: Yes, Thomann has it even cheaper which makes me think even more if I really need those other features. LCA120 has a line in too. The accuracy should be the same as it is meant for orchestral instruments. The design is really nice and handy - after folding it fits easily in any jacket pocket and can be kept safely on a music stand (as it is flat). Big screen makes it even more convenient for a concert situation. My main concern is preset programming feature which I haven't had opportunity to try. Otherwise it looks to me like everything I need during a concert or rehearsal. But obviously anyone of you that had any experience with LCA120 is welcomed to comment. I know OT120, it is good but not absolutely necessary in my opinion. The main reason for not using cheaper equivalents was a lack of temperament presets. LCA 120 has it (once you programme it). So... Anyway, thanks for a post All best Jaroslaw W dniu 2012-02-10 09:49, hera caius pisze: On Thomann: OT120 - 91 euro LCA120 - 30 euro It means it is 3x cheaper. Obviously the OT120 has much more features. I use OT120 from 2007 and it was perfect for all situations and all instruments including Harpsichord, Positif Organ, Viola da Gamba, Violin, Baroque flute and all my lutes and guitars.It also has line in and out for more electric and amplified signal. But hey, that's my opinion... Good luck, Caius --- On Thu, 2/9/12, Jaroslaw Lipski wrote: From: Jaroslaw Lipski Subject: [LUTE] korg lca-120 To: "lute@cs.dartmouth.edu" Date: Thursday, February 9, 2012, 5:40 PM Anyone using Korg LCA-120? I just wonder if the difference between this model and OT-120 is worth paying almost twice as much money. My first impression is that what is unique for OT-120 is "Sound back" mode and eight presets for historical temperaments, however one can programme his own presets in LCA-120, so in this respect the difference doesn't seem to be huge. On the other hand LCA-120 is very handy, flat and has a big LCD which is very good for a concert situation. Any thoughts? All best Jaroslaw To get on or off this list see list information at [1]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: korg lca-120
One consideration might be that the LCA-120 appears to no longer be made... Sent from my iPhone On Feb 10, 2012, at 2:44 AM, Jaroslaw Lipski wrote: > Yes, Thomann has it even cheaper which makes me think even more if I really > need those other features. LCA120 has a line in too. The accuracy should be > the same as it is meant for orchestral instruments. The design is really nice > and handy - after folding it fits easily in any jacket pocket and can be kept > safely on a music stand (as it is flat). Big screen makes it even more > convenient for a concert situation. My main concern is preset programming > feature which I haven't had opportunity to try. Otherwise it looks to me like > everything I need during a concert or rehearsal. But obviously anyone of you > that had any experience with LCA120 is welcomed to comment. I know OT120, it > is good but not absolutely necessary in my opinion. The main reason for not > using cheaper equivalents was a lack of temperament presets. LCA 120 has it > (once you programme it). So... > Anyway, thanks for a post > > All best > > Jaroslaw > > > W dniu 2012-02-10 09:49, hera caius pisze: >> On Thomann: >>OT120 - 91 euro >>LCA120 - 30 euro >>It means it is 3x cheaper. >>Obviously the OT120 has much more features. >>I use OT120 from 2007 and it was perfect for all situations and all >>instruments including Harpsichord, Positif Organ, Viola da Gamba, >>Violin, Baroque flute and all my lutes and guitars.It also has line in >>and out for more electric and amplified signal. >>But hey, that's my opinion... >>Good luck, >>Caius >>--- On Thu, 2/9/12, Jaroslaw Lipski wrote: >> >> From: Jaroslaw Lipski >> Subject: [LUTE] korg lca-120 >> To: "lute@cs.dartmouth.edu" >> Date: Thursday, February 9, 2012, 5:40 PM >> >>Anyone using Korg LCA-120? I just wonder if the difference between this >>model and OT-120 is worth paying almost twice as much money. My first >>impression is that what is unique for OT-120 is "Sound back" mode and >>eight presets for historical temperaments, however one can programme >>his own presets in LCA-120, so in this respect the difference doesn't >>seem to be huge. On the other hand LCA-120 is very handy, flat and has >>a big LCD which is very good for a concert situation. >>Any thoughts? >>All best >>Jaroslaw >>To get on or off this list see list information at >>[1]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >> >>-- >> >> References >> >>1. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html >> >> >> > >
[LUTE] Re: korg lca-120
Well, my Japanese is not good enough, but there is a short French version on Youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4ZjwFyAjSU Thanks :) Jaroslaw W dniu 2012-02-10 14:43, T.Kakinami pisze: Hello Jaroslaw and all, Did you already check presentation video? Unfortunately this is in Japanese. I don't know where is English version. http://www.korg.co.jp/Product/Tuner/Movie/02.html * Toshiaki Kakinami E-mail : tk...@orchid.plala.or.jp Blog : http://kakitoshilute.blogspot.com * -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Jaroslaw Lipski Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 12:41 AM To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] korg lca-120 Anyone using Korg LCA-120? I just wonder if the difference between this model and OT-120 is worth paying almost twice as much money. My first impression is that what is unique for OT-120 is "Sound back" mode and eight presets for historical temperaments, however one can programme his own presets in LCA-120, so in this respect the difference doesn't seem to be huge. On the other hand LCA-120 is very handy, flat and has a big LCD which is very good for a concert situation. Any thoughts? All best Jaroslaw To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: korg lca-120
Hello Jaroslaw and all, Did you already check presentation video? Unfortunately this is in Japanese. I don't know where is English version. http://www.korg.co.jp/Product/Tuner/Movie/02.html * Toshiaki Kakinami E-mail : tk...@orchid.plala.or.jp Blog : http://kakitoshilute.blogspot.com * -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Jaroslaw Lipski Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 12:41 AM To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] korg lca-120 Anyone using Korg LCA-120? I just wonder if the difference between this model and OT-120 is worth paying almost twice as much money. My first impression is that what is unique for OT-120 is "Sound back" mode and eight presets for historical temperaments, however one can programme his own presets in LCA-120, so in this respect the difference doesn't seem to be huge. On the other hand LCA-120 is very handy, flat and has a big LCD which is very good for a concert situation. Any thoughts? All best Jaroslaw To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: korg lca-120
Yes, Thomann has it even cheaper which makes me think even more if I really need those other features. LCA120 has a line in too. The accuracy should be the same as it is meant for orchestral instruments. The design is really nice and handy - after folding it fits easily in any jacket pocket and can be kept safely on a music stand (as it is flat). Big screen makes it even more convenient for a concert situation. My main concern is preset programming feature which I haven't had opportunity to try. Otherwise it looks to me like everything I need during a concert or rehearsal. But obviously anyone of you that had any experience with LCA120 is welcomed to comment. I know OT120, it is good but not absolutely necessary in my opinion. The main reason for not using cheaper equivalents was a lack of temperament presets. LCA 120 has it (once you programme it). So... Anyway, thanks for a post All best Jaroslaw W dniu 2012-02-10 09:49, hera caius pisze: On Thomann: OT120 - 91 euro LCA120 - 30 euro It means it is 3x cheaper. Obviously the OT120 has much more features. I use OT120 from 2007 and it was perfect for all situations and all instruments including Harpsichord, Positif Organ, Viola da Gamba, Violin, Baroque flute and all my lutes and guitars.It also has line in and out for more electric and amplified signal. But hey, that's my opinion... Good luck, Caius --- On Thu, 2/9/12, Jaroslaw Lipski wrote: From: Jaroslaw Lipski Subject: [LUTE] korg lca-120 To: "lute@cs.dartmouth.edu" Date: Thursday, February 9, 2012, 5:40 PM Anyone using Korg LCA-120? I just wonder if the difference between this model and OT-120 is worth paying almost twice as much money. My first impression is that what is unique for OT-120 is "Sound back" mode and eight presets for historical temperaments, however one can programme his own presets in LCA-120, so in this respect the difference doesn't seem to be huge. On the other hand LCA-120 is very handy, flat and has a big LCD which is very good for a concert situation. Any thoughts? All best Jaroslaw To get on or off this list see list information at [1]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: korg lca-120
On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 00:49:17 -0800 (PST), hera caius wrote > On Thomann: >OT120 - 91 euro >LCA120 - 30 euro >It means it is 3x cheaper. >Obviously the OT120 has much more features. Is that so? From the description on Korg's website it didn't sound at all like it. Does the OT have custom programmable tempraments? Does it have the follow/playback feature (i.e. you don't need to manualy change the playback pitch). Focus in? The only plus I could find for the OT was it's slightly larger range of base pitch, but with a custom programmed temprament that shouldn't be too big a problem. >I use OT120 from 2007 and it was perfect for all situations and > all instruments including Harpsichord, Positif Organ, Viola da > Gamba, Violin, Baroque flute and all my lutes and guitars.It also > has line in and out for more electric and amplified signal. But the LCA also has Mic in Headphone/Speaker out. Or are you talking about a real line-in? Cheers, Ralf Mattes But > hey, that's my opinion... Good luck, Caius >--- On Thu, 2/9/12, Jaroslaw Lipski wrote: > > From: Jaroslaw Lipski > Subject: [LUTE] korg lca-120 > To: "lute@cs.dartmouth.edu" > Date: Thursday, February 9, 2012, 5:40 PM > >Anyone using Korg LCA-120? I just wonder if the difference > between this model and OT-120 is worth paying almost twice as much > money. My first impression is that what is unique for OT-120 is > "Sound back" mode and eight presets for historical temperaments, > however one can programme his own presets in LCA-120, so in this > respect the difference doesn't seem to be huge. On the other hand > LCA-120 is very handy, flat and has a big LCD which is very good > for a concert situation. Any thoughts? All best Jaroslaw To > get on or off this list see list information at > [1]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > >-- > > References > >1. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html -- R. Mattes - Hochschule fuer Musik Freiburg r...@inm.mh-freiburg.de To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
