[LUTE] Re: Mac & lute typesetting

[Wolfgang]

Am 07.12.2015 um 21:41 schrieb Samuel Lawson:

if you use the musescore nightly buildt the extra strings work fine

Wolfgang Daiss

A few might be interested to know that the new version of
MuseScore has pretty o-kay lute tab capabilities (with
playback). It's not as good as Fronimo, but it's free and
works great for 6-course, while 7 & 8 course is managable
if the bass lines are not too active (for 8 course, you
have to write with a full 8-line staff, then hide the extra lines
and write in the slash notation in text -- yeah, that part's
not so great, but it works).

It's available for windows, max, and linux:
https://musescore.org/

Slainte!
Samuel J. Lawson


On Sun, 6 Dec 2015, Roman Turovsky wrote:

Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2015 10:35:54 -0500
From: Roman Turovsky 
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Mac & lute typesetting

There have been discussion of having to remap keyboard layouts in order to run
Stringwalker, Django or Fronimo on a Mac. The good news is that I've plugged an
Adesso windows keyboard into my MacPro and everything seems to work the way it
is supposed to, both Insert and Delete keys work perfectly in combination with
the Windows/Command key.

Enjoy!
Amities,
RT



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[LUTE] Re: Mac & lute typesetting

[Samuel Lawson]

A few might be interested to know that the new version of 
MuseScore has pretty o-kay lute tab capabilities (with 
playback). It's not as good as Fronimo, but it's free and 
works great for 6-course, while 7 & 8 course is managable 
if the bass lines are not too active (for 8 course, you 
have to write with a full 8-line staff, then hide the extra lines 
and write in the slash notation in text -- yeah, that part's 
not so great, but it works).

It's available for windows, max, and linux:
https://musescore.org/ 

Slainte!
Samuel J. Lawson


On Sun, 6 Dec 2015, Roman Turovsky wrote:

Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2015 10:35:54 -0500
From: Roman Turovsky 
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Mac & lute typesetting

There have been discussion of having to remap keyboard layouts in order to run
Stringwalker, Django or Fronimo on a Mac. The good news is that I've plugged an
Adesso windows keyboard into my MacPro and everything seems to work the way it
is supposed to, both Insert and Delete keys work perfectly in combination with
the Windows/Command key.

Enjoy!
Amities,
RT



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[LUTE] Re: mac - any other?

[theoj89294]

Are there any native mac programs (for the intel based macs) to write lute tab? 
(rather than running windows on a mac)


trj




BTW: I have VMware Fusion on my mac, and HIGHLY recommend VMware over their 
competitor, but still would rather work in mac OS if possible






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[LUTE] Re: mac - any other?

[Roman Turovsky]

Yes, there is.
The problem with it is that the program in question was written for the sole 
use by its creator, who happened to be so secretive as cover his hands 
during demonstrations, to keep his input method secret.
Apparently he hoped to generate income from prospective tab typesetting 
jobs.
However that was the last news we've ever had about this program, with no 
evidence whatsoever of its applicability in the real world.


I simply keep a PC dedicated to Django, Fronimo, and a few audio programs, 
and a Mac for video and graphics.

RT


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Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 10:00 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: mac - any other?


Are there any native mac programs (for the intel based macs) to write lute 
tab? (rather than running windows on a mac)



trj




BTW: I have VMware Fusion on my mac, and HIGHLY recommend VMware over 
their competitor, but still would rather work in mac OS if possible







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[LUTE] Re: mac - any other?

[wayne cripps]

My program is a native mac application, but it runs in terminal windows, it is 
not point and click.

http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute/AboutTab.html
http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/tab-serv/tab-serv.cgi

   Wayne

On Sep 20, 2010, at 10:00 AM, theoj89...@aol.com wrote:

 Are there any native mac programs (for the intel based macs) to write lute 
 tab? (rather than running windows on a mac)
 
 
 trj
 
 
 
 
 BTW: I have VMware Fusion on my mac, and HIGHLY recommend VMware over their 
 competitor, but still would rather work in mac OS if possible
 
 
 
 
 
 
   Anyone out there who might be a fronimo user know of a mac program
  that reads fronimo files - just got a mac = any suggestions
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[LUTE] Re: mac - any other?

[Mjos Larson]

I use Finale on a Mac. It's tab feature is geared for guitar, but it  
can produce excellent results. You can choose between letters or  
numbers. Diapason notation is not built in, so workarounds need to be  
used. (I use a custom font for diapasons, but David van Ooijen's  
scores show you how a standard font would look.)


http://earlyguitar.ning.com/profile/RockyMjos
http://lutegroup.ning.com/profile/RockyMjos

http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/

Some others use Sibelius, but I prefer the control available in Finale.

I have only used the full version of Finale, and don't know what is  
possible with their Allegro or PrintMusic versions.


http://www.makemusic.com/notation_software.aspx

I believe demo version are available.

-- R




On Sep 20, 2010, at 9:00 AM, theoj89...@aol.com wrote:

Are there any native mac programs (for the intel based macs) to  
write lute tab? (rather than running windows on a mac)



trj




BTW: I have VMware Fusion on my mac, and HIGHLY recommend VMware  
over their competitor, but still would rather work in mac OS if  
possible







   Anyone out there who might be a fronimo user know of a mac  
program

  that reads fronimo files - just got a mac = any suggestions
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[LUTE] Re: mac - any other?

[cethera]

ditto - i've been using if for years

On Sep 20, 2010, at 5:47 PM, Mjos  Larson wrote:

 I use Finale on a Mac. It's tab feature is geared for guitar, but it can 
 produce excellent results. You can choose between letters or numbers. 
 Diapason notation is not built in, so workarounds need to be used. (I use a 
 custom font for diapasons, but David van Ooijen's scores show you how a 
 standard font would look.)
 
 http://earlyguitar.ning.com/profile/RockyMjos
 http://lutegroup.ning.com/profile/RockyMjos
 
 http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/
 
 Some others use Sibelius, but I prefer the control available in Finale.
 
 I have only used the full version of Finale, and don't know what is 
 possible with their Allegro or PrintMusic versions.
 
 http://www.makemusic.com/notation_software.aspx
 
 I believe demo version are available.
 
 -- R
 
 
 
 
 On Sep 20, 2010, at 9:00 AM, theoj89...@aol.com wrote:
 
 Are there any native mac programs (for the intel based macs) to write lute 
 tab? (rather than running windows on a mac)
 
 
 trj
 
 
 
 
 BTW: I have VMware Fusion on my mac, and HIGHLY recommend VMware over their 
 competitor, but still would rather work in mac OS if possible
 
 
 
 
 
 
   Anyone out there who might be a fronimo user know of a mac program
  that reads fronimo files - just got a mac = any suggestions
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[LUTE] Re: mac - any other?

[Miles Dempster]

Yes, most of what you say Roman is correct, however I wouldn't say that it is a 
'problem' that I wrote it for use by myself. Any Mac user, as I do, can run 
Windows and enjoy the excellent features of Django, Fronimo, Tab and others. My 
program is a different kind of tool which enables me to efficiently undertake 
jobs such as encoding large manuscripts such as Herbert of Cherbury, Cracow 
40032, the incipits of all Italian 17th manuscript sources etc. It also 
produces voice-separated Midi files to facilitate conversion to staff notation 
- several lute professionals, when recording CDs, have asked me to translate 
their tab into staff notation for the recording studio.

Miles


On 2010-09-20, at 10:39 AM, Roman Turovsky wrote:

 Yes, there is.
 The problem with it is that the program in question was written for the sole 
 use by its creator, who happened to be so secretive as cover his hands during 
 demonstrations, to keep his input method secret.
 Apparently he hoped to generate income from prospective tab typesetting jobs.
 However that was the last news we've ever had about this program, with no 
 evidence whatsoever of its applicability in the real world.
 
 I simply keep a PC dedicated to Django, Fronimo, and a few audio programs, 
 and a Mac for video and graphics.
 RT
 
 
 - Original Message - From: theoj89...@aol.com
 To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
 Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 10:00 AM
 Subject: [LUTE] Re: mac - any other?
 
 
 Are there any native mac programs (for the intel based macs) to write lute 
 tab? (rather than running windows on a mac)
 
 
 trj
 
 
 
 
 BTW: I have VMware Fusion on my mac, and HIGHLY recommend VMware over their 
 competitor, but still would rather work in mac OS if possible
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[LUTE] Re: mac - any other?

[Leonard Williams]

Learn to use Wayne Cripps' tab program.  It's free and has beautiful and
variable output for a variety of tablatures.  It's not gui and user friendly
like the other programs, but if you use it a while you really get to know
it.  Runs on Mac or PC, but was developed from Mac standpoint (I hope I have
that right, Wayne).  There is a user manual at the download site that
explains it all.

Regards,
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On 9/20/10 10:00 AM, theoj89...@aol.com theoj89...@aol.com wrote:

 Are there any native mac programs (for the intel based macs) to write lute
 tab? (rather than running windows on a mac)
 
 
 trj
 
 
 
 
 BTW: I have VMware Fusion on my mac, and HIGHLY recommend VMware over their
 competitor, but still would rather work in mac OS if possible
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Anyone out there who might be a fronimo user know of a mac program
 that reads fronimo files - just got a mac = any suggestions
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[LUTE] Re: mac

[Sal Salvaggio]

thanks for the mac tips  ss
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 To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
 Date: Saturday, September 18, 2010, 4:11 PM

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[LUTE] Re: mac

[Sean Smith]

It's a lot of stuff I know but I went the standard route and:

--first bought the Virtual Machine to load Windows: Parallels (there  
are others)


--loaded a copy of XP from the olden days when we had Windows machines.

--bought the Fronimoes.

This was all years ago. There may be programs to emulate or open  
windows that have come out since but I don't know of them. It's a  
shame to have to go this complicated for a program that runs on W. 95  
--I still usually use Fronimo 2.1-- but there you are.


There are ocassional hiccups (printers, keyboard layouts) but it works  
ok. As a matter of fact I was just playing the r. guitar off the  
screen when I read your note. ;^)


Sean



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  that reads fronimo files - just got a mac = any suggestions

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[LUTE] Re: mac

[Lex van Sante]

Not really, but you can Install Windows on a Intel Mac these days either via 
Bootcamp or by using virtualisation via VMware or Parallels.
VMware is on offer these days. So hurry if you want it. There is a lot of info 
about this to be found on the net.

Lex

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   that reads fronimo files - just got a mac = any suggestions
 
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[LUTE] Re: mac

[Peter Nightingale]

On Sat, 18 Sep 2010, Sean Smith wrote:


 It's a lot of stuff I know but I went the standard route and:

 --first bought the Virtual Machine to load Windows: Parallels (there are 
 others)

 --loaded a copy of XP from the olden days when we had Windows machines.

 --bought the Fronimoes.

 This was all years ago. There may be programs to emulate or open windows that 
 have come out since but I don't know of them. It's a shame to have to go this 
 complicated for a program that runs on W. 95 --I still usually use Fronimo 
 2.1-- but there you are.

Just a few weeks ago I I had to run a Windows program and installed VMware 
Fusion on my Mac. This does almost precisely what Sean describes, except 
that Windows runs in native mode on the current generation of Intel CPU 
based Macs.  As a consequence, it runs much faster than it would in 
emulation mode.  It's not complicated, although it's not what I would call 
elegant either, but it works.  VMware Fusion can run a variety of 
different versions of Windows.

 There are occasional hick-ups (printers, keyboard layouts) but it works OK. 
 As 
 a matter of fact I was just playing the r. guitar off the screen when I read 
 your note. ;^)

I have not witnessed any hick-ups, just passing coughing fits, as occurred 
when I tried to use the USB port from Windows for the first time.  I 
assume that this is standard Windows trouble and has little to do with 
VMware.

I have not tried Fronimo, but I might eventually, if I ever overcome my 
aversion of MS -- how ominous an abbreviation!

Peter.


 Sean



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[LUTE] Re: mac

[Ed Durbrow]

   Not that reads them, but you could run the PC program on a Mac. Boot
   Camp? Parallels? Virtual PC?

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[LUTE] Re: mac

[Sauvage Valéry]

Just sells the mac and buy a PC... (just joking)
V. 

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Objet : [LUTE] Re: mac


   Not that reads them, but you could run the PC program on a Mac. Boot
   Camp? Parallels? Virtual PC?

   On Sep 19, 2010, at 5:11 AM, Sal Salvaggio wrote:

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[LUTE] Re: Mac users working with TAB, help

[Leonard Williams]

Omer--
I am truly sorry to have wasted so much of your (and my) time trying
to assist you with your tablature program quandry.  Unfortunately, Wayne's
time and web space has been wasted as well.
Adieu to you, too!

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On 1/24/09 5:43 AM, Omer Katzir kome...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ho yes, He helped me a lot!
 I already sent him the piece, I think it's already published, check
 the site for O Katzir
 
 
 On Jan 20, 2009, at 1:31 AM, Leonard Williams wrote:
 
 Omer--
Rereading your intial post on this, it occurs to me that you
 may be
 having trouble compiling the source code--is this the problem??  The
 file
 that one downloads from Wayne's site is source code;  the file needs
 to be
 un-zipped (just double -click it);  then the makefile should be
 edited to
 suit your particular set-up (see the web site).  Then in a terminal
 window
 cd'd to the location of the source code, type make.  finally, move
 tab and
 all its fonts to the folder where you want to keep them.
I find tab to produce a very nice output (I've seen a number of
 published books of tablature produce with tab), so I hope you can
 get past
 these initial difficulties and start using it.
 
 Regards,
 Leonard Williams
 
 
 On 1/19/09 11:07 AM, Omer Katzir kome...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I decided to use TAB, I can't work with finale and friends anymore.
 all these applications can't write polyphony as should be.
 
 I download TAB from the FTP, and looked at the instructions, when I
 try to use gcc I keep getting no input file, I install xCode, and
 that
 it...I actually don't know any thing right now...
 
 please help me :-*
 
 
 
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[LUTE] Re: Mac users working with TAB, help

[Omer Katzir]

   It uses some old version of TAB...I hate to stay behind. And i tried
   it, looks interesting. For now I'll use it, but for later, I'm not
   sure...

   On Jan 19, 2009, at 7:50 PM, Eric Crouch wrote:

   Try xTab, downloadable from here [1]http://medievallute.info/. It
   works fine for me.
   Eric Crouch
   On 19 Jan 2009, at 16:07, Omer Katzir wrote:

   I decided to use TAB, I can't work with finale and friends anymore. all
   these applications can't write polyphony as should be.
   I download TAB from the FTP, and looked at the instructions, when I try
   to use gcc I keep getting no input file, I install xCode, and that
   it...I actually don't know any thing right now...
   please help me :-*
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[LUTE] Re: Mac users working with TAB, help

[Omer Katzir]

   ohh yes...and one more, is that format is the same  as TAB?

   i see it saves the files as tabx

   On Jan 19, 2009, at 7:50 PM, Eric Crouch wrote:

   Try xTab, downloadable from here [1]http://medievallute.info/. It
   works fine for me.
   Eric Crouch
   On 19 Jan 2009, at 16:07, Omer Katzir wrote:

   I decided to use TAB, I can't work with finale and friends anymore. all
   these applications can't write polyphony as should be.
   I download TAB from the FTP, and looked at the instructions, when I try
   to use gcc I keep getting no input file, I install xCode, and that
   it...I actually don't know any thing right now...
   please help me :-*
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