[LUTE] Re: two new videos

2009-03-07 Thread Miles Dempster

That's perfectly clear now!

Miles


On 7-Mar-09, at 1:30 AM, David van Ooijen wrote:


On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 12:40 AM, Miles Dempster
miles.demps...@globetrotter.net wrote:

David,

The g# on the 4th fret an octave higher...? Does that mean that  
your second

course is not re-entrant?


Did I writet that??

One cannot be clear enough:
Open 4th string g is one octave higher than open 7th string G.
We're playing Monteverdi, so it's 1/4 comma meantone. This means 1st
fret 4th string is an a-flat, not that I need one, but I didn't use a
tastino here and the fret is set high, so it certainly is not a g#. In
stead, when I need a g# in this octave, I play it on the 4th fret on
string 2. That makes this a double re-entrant theorbo in a, unless I'm
mixing things up even more. ;-)


David






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[LUTE] Re: two new videos

2009-03-06 Thread wikla

On 3/6/2009, David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com wrote:
 From Monteverdi's Maria Vespers. It's from a concert in 2006.
 
 Pulchra es:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55n1n6vNScM
 (note the glaringly obvious tastini on the theorbo)

Beautiful performances (and singers! ;-). Thanks David!

But I found just only one tastino for the F sharp on the 4th string
1st fret, not a number of tastini... (singular/plural message...;-)

Once upon a time I used also a tastino for the E flat on 3rd string 4th
fret - the real 4th fret on 3rd string  - below the tastino - gave me
the D sharp. And that happened In the Poppea, where some songs are
in c-minor and some in e-minor. There your 3rd string 4th fret  really
has two roles... ;-)

Arto



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[LUTE] Re: two new videos

2009-03-06 Thread wikla

Oops,

you never should play continuo by more than one instrument! When I was
talking of the 4th string, I had a lute/archlute in G in mind. And when
I was talking of the 3rd string, I had a theorbo in A in my mind! Sorry!
 ;-)
And BTW this mixing of an instrument in G or in A happens also in the
real life while playing the continuo! And the result is modern
harmonies... ;-)

Arto


On 3/7/2009, wi...@cs.helsinki.fi wi...@cs.helsinki.fi wrote:
 
 On 3/6/2009, David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com wrote:
  From Monteverdi's Maria Vespers. It's from a concert in 2006.
  
  Pulchra es:
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55n1n6vNScM
  (note the glaringly obvious tastini on the theorbo)
 
 Beautiful performances (and singers! ;-). Thanks David!
 
 But I found just only one tastino for the F sharp on the 4th string
 1st fret, not a number of tastini... (singular/plural message...;-)
 
 Once upon a time I used also a tastino for the E flat on 3rd string 4th
 fret - the real 4th fret on 3rd string  - below the tastino - gave me
 the D sharp. And that happened In the Poppea, where some songs are
 in c-minor and some in e-minor. There your 3rd string 4th fret  really
 has two roles... ;-)
 
 Arto
 
 
 
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[LUTE] Re: two new videos

2009-03-06 Thread Miles Dempster

David,

The g# on the 4th fret an octave higher...? Does that mean that your  
second course is not re-entrant? A toy theorbo indeed.


Miles Dempster



On 6-Mar-09, at 5:11 PM, David van Ooijen wrote:


On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 11:05 PM,  wi...@cs.helsinki.fi wrote:


On 3/6/2009, David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com wrote:

From Monteverdi's Maria Vespers. It's from a concert in 2006.

Pulchra es:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55n1n6vNScM
(note the glaringly obvious tastini on the theorbo)


Beautiful performances (and singers! ;-). Thanks David!

But I found just only one tastino for the F sharp on the 4th string
1st fret, not a number of tastini... (singular/plural message...;-)


Ah, glaringly obvious Italian mistake by me, sorry. One tastino,
singular, first fret strings 7 (still on the fingerboard in those
days) to have a pure G# (toy-theorbo in a). The g# one octave higher I
play on te fourth fret, second string, _not_ on the first fret fourth
string.

David


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[LUTE] Re: two new videos

2009-03-06 Thread David van Ooijen
On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 12:40 AM, Miles Dempster
miles.demps...@globetrotter.net wrote:
 David,

 The g# on the 4th fret an octave higher...? Does that mean that your second
 course is not re-entrant?

Did I writet that??

One cannot be clear enough:
Open 4th string g is one octave higher than open 7th string G.
We're playing Monteverdi, so it's 1/4 comma meantone. This means 1st
fret 4th string is an a-flat, not that I need one, but I didn't use a
tastino here and the fret is set high, so it certainly is not a g#. In
stead, when I need a g# in this octave, I play it on the 4th fret on
string 2. That makes this a double re-entrant theorbo in a, unless I'm
mixing things up even more. ;-)


David






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