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[Charles Browne]

Does anyone have, or know where to get, The Siver Swan by Orlando Gibbons
arranged for 4/5 voices and with lute accompaniment in tablature? I can get
the lute tablature with one voice and I can also get a four voice
arrangement without tablature. Unfortuntely their formats are not
compatible.
thanks
Charles

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[WIWO]

hi al,
looking at caravaggios luteplayer i wonder what this guy is playing. we
discussed lute and lute paintings some month (years) ago. but what are these
players playing? mostly i noticed that the music is notated in mensural
notation (!) and sometimes the music is excellent readable (holbein). is
there a picture with a real lute tabulature and identifiable. or has the
music more or less only a symbolic worth.
thanks
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[Chad McAnally]

From: Michael Thames 
To: Marcus Merrin ; lute 
list ; Arthur Ness 
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: Byrd


>Yes, "La Lutine" by Fran=E7ois Couperin.  I don't know >a lute version. 
>Maybe someone could make one for >Michael to play on his guitar.

  I'm not one to take a stick to a hornet's nest but, what's this problem with 
the guitar??? My guess is most of us played guitar some before switching to the 
lute, and I know several who still play both. Has the guitar been declared 
unclean?? And does this apply to any other plucked strings; for instance are 
baroque harps still O.K. or do I have burn sage in my music room?

How about more discussion on music and fewer manifestoes!!! 

Chad




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[jean-michel Catherinot]

Just to begin 2009, with a little fresh air from Switzerland. That's
   TRUE cross-over, i'snt it?
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[Daniel Winheld]

Check this out. Surely the lute & theorbo crowd could write one too...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YGc4zOqozo
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[mark opperman]

 Dear Lucas, It has been a while since I last
contacted you but I thought I would tell you what I
have been up to lately. After receiving my theorbo
last December I set to work on learning Kapspurger's
Arpeggiata and a few other pieces. It took a few
months, but I managed to get used to the instrument
while using correct right-hand technique and slowly
learned how to read Italian tabliture. Recently I have
been fortunate in that a theorbist named Pablo
Champion has moved to Santa Fe and I have been
studying with him over the last few weeks. I am
currently working on four Caccini songs from Le Nuove
Musiche that I will be performing with a soprano at
the end of this semester. So far though it has been
much work I am really enjoying the theorbo and
everything I am learning about the music of the early
baroque. 
 Also i was wondering if you know of anywhere to get a
not so expensive baroque guitar? My friend and I want
to start a continuo band.
 
 I hope that things are well, 
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[bernardhauvette]

Hello bis
Searching for Adam Fackenhagen I find this interesting portrait in Gallica
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b77207810
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News and information from Gamut Strings


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Gamut Strings in Cremona
Gamut strings will be exhibiting at the Cremona Mondomusica in Italy,
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mandolin will be on display.  If you are planning to be at this event,
please be sure to look us up.  Information about the show can be found at:
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A new recording available
There is a new recording available which features Gamut strings on a
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[arielabramovich]

Dear all,
   does anyone know how to use the "string walker", in order to =
write pieces for lute and voice?
For some reason my version doesn't have the "help" files...
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Ariel.
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[arielabramovich]

Dear friends,
I've ordered the book Fronimo (Galilei's one), and =
it would take  a few weeks to get here.
In the meanwhile, does anyone has the intabulations =
(all of them, all of the vocal pieces)  transcribed in any format?
As usual, many thanks.
 Ariel.
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[Sal Salvaggio]

To those in the Long Island (NY) Area

Salvatore Salvaggio 
Lute + Baroque Guitar Concert
"French Suites for Baroque Guitar and Fantasies, Ayres
and Dances for Lute" 

Great Hall
C.W. Post College
Brookville, NY
Wed. Sept. 24
8 pm

Sponsored by the Long Island Classical Guitar Society

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[arielabramovich]

Dear all,
   I'm wondering if any of you has the complete Vallet =
works for solo lute in any format (Fronimo, Django, Pdf, etc), and would =
be kind to send them to me.
  Thanks once more for your kind attention.
 Best,
  Ariel.
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[Leonardo Cardoso]

Hello Christopher, sorry , I should explain better, I want books ON the 
lute, but now that you mencioned I´d like to know where I find socores too!

Thank you

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[Seth Warner]

Dear Lute list

   Scott  Lemire  and  I  have just  released our first CD- The leaves be
   green:  English  Lute  duets.   Recorded last winter here in Portland,
   Maine (at "The Studio" of all places) this disc surveys the music from
   around  the  time  of  Queen  Elizabeth that survives for two lutes of
   Pilkington,  Dowland,  Johnson,  Robinson  along  with  many wonderful
   pieces by anonymous composers. As many of you know this music is a lot
   of fun as much of it is a rollicking tour of divisions traded back and
   forth  yet  there  are  also  moments  of  brooding intensity for good
   balance  -  in  England  around  this time they were obsessed with all
   things  melancholic  but still seemed to been able to pull it together
   for a good time once and a while!

   After  having  a  successful performance of this repertoire as part of
   the  2003  Boston  Early  Music Festival we are now putting together a
   series  of  concerts  to  support our recording that will take us on a
   tour  of  New  England  and  hopefully  beyond. Check back with us for
   periodic updates on our performance schedule.

   This  CD was a great deal of fun to record and produce - but certainly
   an  intense  education  in  itself.  To  hear  the  two opening tracks
   (Pilkingtons  Echo  almaine  &  Dowlands  Lord Wiloughbys welcome home
   please visit my newly updated web site and let us know what you think!

www.sethwarner.com 

If  you  are  interested  in  purchasing a copies for the gift giving
   season  now upon us - please place your order before December 15th for
   a free upgrade to Priority shipping for any size order 

   The CD is available directly through me:

Each  copy  is  $15,  which includes shipping and handling within the
   continental   U.S.   (International   customers   please  contact  me:
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   Please send a check or money order to:

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 Other news:

 On  December  20^th, 2003 Scott, myself and theorbist Bill Good will
   be  performing with an ensemble of four wonderful singers in a program
   of  Christmas  Carols  for  voices  and  lutes (and some 19^th century
   guitars!).  The  selections  will  include  early English and American
   carols  along  with  some  well known 19th century European carols. It
   promises   to   be  an  especially  beautiful  concert  and  a  unique
   opportunity  to  hear  many of these carols in their original settings
   and  languages.  We'll  be  performing  at  the following locations on
   12/20:

   12  -  3 pm L.L. Bean Retail Store - Freeport Maine- 2nd Floor
   performance space (free)

  8pm St. Luke's Church - Portland, Maine ($12/$6)

For  more information or to order tickets call 207-883-7115 - Hope to
   see you there!

On  March  4^th,  2004 at 12:15pm I will be performing as part of the
   Portland  Conservatory/Noonday  Concert  Series  at  the  First Parish
   Church, 425 Congress Street, Portland, Maine. I will be performing all
   Spanish music for the vihuela and baroque guitar. This concert is free
   and open to the public.


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[Herbert Ward]

Did musicians of Dowland's time separate themselves the categories
"serious/highbrow" and "popular" which are widely used today?

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[Charles Browne]

Is there any signficance in Erik Korngold's use of the lute in his operas? I
was lstening to 'Die tote Stadt' and I noticed that Maria's portrait depicts
her holding a lute with which she accompanied herself. Paul, her widowed
husband, passes a lute to Marietta (a dancer who looks, and speaks,like his
dead wife) and asks her to sing a song to lute accompaniment. I cant
remember this in the performance that I saw in Stockholm under Leif
Segerstam. Interestly, the lute appears in three of Korngold's operas
although I dont know whether these were Renaissance or Baroque instruments.
Has anyone any ideas?
Charles Browne

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GD   Em   F#6
When humour banished in exile lies,

G   Ab Ab5+7b
Gentle folks fight with mucho bile and guile.

C   D D7
So unto others' silliness smile,

G   Gbm7+   F#Maj.  
Lest sweet melancoly thee to her beguiles

Chorus:
G  G D+ G D+ G A6- Bb F G
And you end up with a theorbo 'round your neck

G  C  D   G
As plain as a collar or yoke to bear - yeack!

PS: For best viewing, set your font to monospace. I will take donations for 
rimes in "eck". Alternate fingerings for the D+ chord are available on E-Bay.
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[Charles Browne]

Does anybody have an uptodate comparison chart of lute strings by different
manufacturers that would be willing to share?
thanks
Charles

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[Oskar De Mari]

   Hi all
   just for a laugh: there is an ad on Australian Telivision featuring a
   lute! the lutenist is singing a wooing song of love to an intercom at
   the front door to some flats. The add says something like 'do things
   the 21st century way - join our internet dating service'.
   I believe this is the lute's first appearence on an ad in Australia.
   lovely
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[Anton Birula]

A 13 course Baroque lute by Klaus Jacobsen for sale 
> > 
> > Rather exclusive instrument.
> > Stringlength 70,5/76
> > 
> > Pictures:
> > 

http://www.luteduo.com/instr/6.jpg
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> > A very professional instrument in perfect condition.
> Ideal for any sort of repertoire, especially for S.L. Weiss
> and J.S. Bach. Very comfortable neck, low action. 
> > 
> > Please feel free to ask for more information,
> > 
> > Anton Birula
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[brentlynk]

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[corun]

Dear Collected Wisdom, I have a friend who is looking for a facsimile of the 
Squarcialupi Codex. Does anyone know if this is available anywhere?

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   I could barely afford groceries anymore I told myself to stay positive
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[David Tayler]

For your listening and viewing pleasure, Henry Purcell's elegant 
triptych, Oh! Fair Cedaria
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To: Louis Aull 
Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
From: timothy swain 
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Christmas Music
Status: O

What a heart-warming message! Bravo! And indeed a Merry Christmas...

Tim

On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 5:39 AM, Louis Aull  wrote:
>Performed the Messiah twice yesterday. This morning my fingers and my
>butt are still sore and I can't get the sounds of the Messiah out of my
>head. What a wonderful Christmas gift.
>
>
>Merry Christmas everyone.
>
>
>Louis Aull
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[r . turovsky]

Out of curiosity: 
There should be estimates around of how many keys say a Monteverdi opera goes 
through. 
I am pretty sure Claudio didn’t worry about the fretted guys temperaments, did 
he? 
unless they had a different axe per movement.
RT 


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Feci quod potui. Faciant meliora potentes.

> On Jul 21, 2019, at 6:16 AM, tribioli  wrote:
> 
>   I know only one thing: for me 1/6 comma practically works. No slanted
>   frets nor tastini. I don't bear anymore to play early Renaissance music
>   in equal temperament which on the other hand I use on all the later
>   music as it allows to play in other keys than the "standard"
>   Renaissance keys.
> 
>   I think there were not so many rules in the past. Galilei advocates
>   against tastini, so there were people using them and meantone
>   temperament. How many we don't know. Piccinini advocates playing with
>   nails, others say not. Besard says to stretch the thumb out, some
>   others say to do so if your hand allows it (for instance, I have a
>   short thumb, one falanx shorter than usual). In any case, Besard (if I
>   remember correctly) blames those who play shaking their hand, so there
>   were some musicians that still played thumb under at his time. How many
>   we don't know. Lately, some, many?, people played with the pinky very
>   close or behind the bridge, so they probably had lower string tensions,
>   which is probably good for instruments with many strings, and a
>   completely different sound of what now people think is nice. Even our
>   instruments are biased by our ideal, sweet, sound, which BTW is
>   different from what was considered a good sound thirty years ago, but
>   if one reproduces exactly the thickness and bar dimensions of the
>   surviving boards, the sound that comes out is much brighter. Ok, it
>   depends on the board stiffness too, but that's it.
> 
>   It is a modern, romantic, idea that everything in music must be
>   written, the thecnique must be absolutely that etc. The old masters,
>   simply did what they liked more and worked better for them, of course
>   to the degree the instrument allowed. They wrote their own music or
>   freely adapted what was composed by others, simplifying or adding
>   diminutions as they thought was fit and their thecnique allowed. As in
>   the case of the lute there is no continuity because no one have played
>   it for a couple of centuries, we can only guess and try to stay close
>   to what they "probably" did. If we like to do so, because at the end no
>   one wrote a law so the lutenists have to play only old music! Freedom
>   (in art, at least)!
> 
>   Happy plucking
> 
>    Messaggio originale 
>   Da: Matthew Daillie 
>   Data: 21/07/19 11:23 (GMT+01:00)
>   A: "lute@cs.dartmouth.edu list" 
>   Oggetto: [LUTE] Re: Wishful thinking on lute temparaments was Re: Lute
> Temperaments
> 
>   OK, I stand corrected, you know best. Have a nice day.
>   Matthew
>   Le 21 juil. 2019 à 11:15, Martyn Hodgson
>a écrit :
>>  Dear Matthew,
>>  Thank you for his - though I really do not know why you suggest a
>>  'slanging match'!.  My intention is merely to put some historical
>   and
>>  practical perspective on the matter rather than simple personal
>>  assertion.  To repeat: you are making the common mistake  of
>   discussing
>>  theoretical temperaments (mainly, in practice, only  employable on
>>  keyboard instruments) with practical temperaments appropriate for
>>  fretted instruments such as the lute.
>>  Whether or not some modern players might adopt this manner
>   ('meantone')
>>  of fretting is not, of course, the point - perhaps they might
>>  themselves engage in a degree of wishful thinking.  Certainly,
>   modern
>>  fashions come and go as fast as fads, and in other areas of lute
>>  performance practice some modern players (even a few professionals
>   who
>>  might be expected to know better) still insist on, for example,
>>  employing thumb-under for repertoire other than the sixteenth
>   century.
>>  In short, such anecdotal reports, even from 'professionals, are not
>>  reliable evidence of historic practice.
>>  regards
>>  MH
>> 
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[Thomas Schall]

That's a diostinction of modern times. There were good and bad musicians
(as we have today).

Thomas

Am Don, 2003-12-11 um 19.54 schrieb Herbert Ward:

> Did musicians of Dowland's time separate themselves the categories
> "serious/highbrow" and "popular" which are widely used today?

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[Wayne Cripps]

Hi -

  so there are questions about using jello as glue... well here is 
my experience based on gluing the bridge back on a cheap 
ukulele and gluing the peg box back on my lute..

1) using hide glue is tricky, try it on scrap wood until you get the feel
for it.

2) this discussion really belongs on the lute-builders list where all the
professionals are.  I have used hide glue twice, they all use it every day.

3) using hide glue is tricky, try it on scrap wood until you get the feel
for it.  especially using "jello" as hide glue!

4) read these web pages and understand them before you start..

http://www.frets.com/FRETSPages/Luthier/Technique/Glue/UseHideGlue/usehideglue1.html
http://www.frets.com/FRETSPages/Luthier/Data/Materials/hideglue.html
http://www.frets.com/FRETSPages/Luthier/TipsTricks/KitchenGlue/kitchenglue.html

be sure to follow all the links and references and read them too!  The third
link is specifically about using Knox unflavored gelatin.

5) using hide glue is tricky, try it on scrap wood until you get the feel
for it.

6) this addresses some earlier questions... Hide glue sticks in two ways.
to prepare it you mix it with water *and* heat it till it becomes a
liquid.  When you apply it it cools and becomes "jello."  This forms
a bond which is strong enough to hold the parts together without much
clamping, but not strong enough for a working joint.  Then over the next
day or two the water evaporates or is absorbed into the wood and
the joint becomes strong.  You will find that when a hide glue 
joint is set up that heat won't loosen it, until you get close
to the charring point of wood, but gentle heat with moisture will
loosen the joint up very quickly.  Because the hot glue sets by
cooling you will need to warm up the pieces that you are going to join
(over a propane torch flame - be sure to practice on scrap wood!!)
When the pieces cool to something like 90 f they bond enough to hold
in place while the joint dries.  While the glue is moist you can reheat
the joint and try again.  (You can re-stick old joints by getting them
wet, to activate the glue, then heating the joint and applying pressure.)

Hide glue is rated by gram strength, glue is mixed with a certain weight
of water, and allowed to cool, and tested by sticking something into it
to see how many grams of pressure are necessary.  The higher gram
strength is therefore a thicker glue.  Unflavored gelatin has a high 
gram strength which means that as glue it is thick, and sets quickly,
while your more typical instrument maker's glue has a lower gram
strength which means that it is thinner and takes more time to set up,
which gives you more working time.

7)  I use Knox unflavored gelatin which comes in packages of about 7 grams
(a quarter of an ounce).  First try I first mixed it with 14 grams water, which
was a good consistency to apply but was too thin to have much "tack", 
so I tried 7 grams glue to 7 grams water.  This was very thick,
and I had to work really quickly before the glue set up.  Really
quickly means seconds, not a minute!  I heated it to 140 f in the microwave,
by putting the glue and water in a custard cup, which was in a
small bowl filled with water, to even out the heat.  I think it took a
minute in the microwave to get to 140 f.  I had previously removed
the "Titebold" glue from the uke bridge by moistening it with
warm water and scraping, a long and tedious process.  I heated the bridge
and uke top with my propane torch.  Then I brushed some glue on 
the bridge, put it on the top, and held it for a minute to let it cool.
There you go.

I used "real" hide glue for the lute neck, as I felt that I needed
something that would not set quite so fast!

8) using hide glue is tricky, try it on scrap wood until you get the feel
for it.

9) there is nothing quite like turning a propane torch on your 
beloved lute!

Wayne

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[Steve Ramey]

Wayne,
 
Lots of guys set up a low budget rig whereby they direct the flame from the torch into 
and through a piece of 2" pipe 8" - 12" long.  Mostly this is used as a bending iron 
to aid in bending wood for instrument ribs.  With a little prior planning, it keeps 
the flame away from anything that might catch fire and still provides some serious 
heat.  I've never used one, but I suspect it might provide sufficient heat for 
gluing/ungluing purposes without the fright of turning a torch on an instrument.
 
Steve   

Wayne Cripps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi -

so there are questions about using jello as glue... well here is 
my experience based on gluing the bridge back on a cheap 
ukulele and gluing the peg box back on my lute..

1) using hide glue is tricky, try it on scrap wood until you get the feel
for it.

2) this discussion really belongs on the lute-builders list where all the
professionals are. I have used hide glue twice, they all use it every day.

3) using hide glue is tricky, try it on scrap wood until you get the feel
for it. especially using "jello" as hide glue!

4) read these web pages and understand them before you start..

http://www.frets.com/FRETSPages/Luthier/Technique/Glue/UseHideGlue/usehideglue1.html
http://www.frets.com/FRETSPages/Luthier/Data/Materials/hideglue.html
http://www.frets.com/FRETSPages/Luthier/TipsTricks/KitchenGlue/kitchenglue.html

be sure to follow all the links and references and read them too! The third
link is specifically about using Knox unflavored gelatin.

5) using hide glue is tricky, try it on scrap wood until you get the feel
for it.

6) this addresses some earlier questions... Hide glue sticks in two ways.
to prepare it you mix it with water *and* heat it till it becomes a
liquid. When you apply it it cools and becomes "jello." This forms
a bond which is strong enough to hold the parts together without much
clamping, but not strong enough for a working joint. Then over the next
day or two the water evaporates or is absorbed into the wood and
the joint becomes strong. You will find that when a hide glue 
joint is set up that heat won't loosen it, until you get close
to the charring point of wood, but gentle heat with moisture will
loosen the joint up very quickly. Because the hot glue sets by
cooling you will need to warm up the pieces that you are going to join
(over a propane torch flame - be sure to practice on scrap wood!!)
When the pieces cool to something like 90 f they bond enough to hold
in place while the joint dries. While the glue is moist you can reheat
the joint and try again. (You can re-stick old joints by getting them
wet, to activate the glue, then heating the joint and applying pressure.)

Hide glue is rated by gram strength, glue is mixed with a certain weight
of water, and allowed to cool, and tested by sticking something into it
to see how many grams of pressure are necessary. The higher gram
strength is therefore a thicker glue. Unflavored gelatin has a high 
gram strength which means that as glue it is thick, and sets quickly,
while your more typical instrument maker's glue has a lower gram
strength which means that it is thinner and takes more time to set up,
which gives you more working time.

7) I use Knox unflavored gelatin which comes in packages of about 7 grams
(a quarter of an ounce). First try I first mixed it with 14 grams water, which
was a good consistency to apply but was too thin to have much "tack", 
so I tried 7 grams glue to 7 grams water. This was very thick,
and I had to work really quickly before the glue set up. Really
quickly means seconds, not a minute! I heated it to 140 f in the microwave,
by putting the glue and water in a custard cup, which was in a
small bowl filled with water, to even out the heat. I think it took a
minute in the microwave to get to 140 f. I had previously removed
the "Titebold" glue from the uke bridge by moistening it with
warm water and scraping, a long and tedious process. I heated the bridge
and uke top with my propane torch. Then I brushed some glue on 
the bridge, put it on the top, and held it for a minute to let it cool.
There you go.

I used "real" hide glue for the lute neck, as I felt that I needed
something that would not set quite so fast!

8) using hide glue is tricky, try it on scrap wood until you get the feel
for it.

9) there is nothing quite like turning a propane torch on your 
beloved lute!

Wayne


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