Re: parchment, rwd and ch'in (Re: LUTE-etymology)

[Michael Thames]

>As you take refuge, once again, to offensive language >for lack of
>pausible arguments I quit discussion with you and your >nonsense. Ask
>accomplished Arabists about your 'ain - ghain rubbish. >Get a life,
>buddy

   Thanks Mathias, I second that emotion!
Michael Thames
www.ThamesClassicalGuitars.com
- Original Message -
From: "Mathias Rösel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Lutelist" 
Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 5:14 AM
Subject: Re: parchment, rwd and ch'in (Re: LUTE-etymology)


> As you take refuge, once again, to offensive language for lack of
> pausible arguments I quit discussion with you and your nonsense. Ask
> accomplished Arabists about your 'ain - ghain rubbish. Get a life,
> buddy.
>
>  "danyel" <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:
> > Leather is tanned and elastic and thus unsuitable for use as a membrane.
> > The *rwd* theory is not my pet but borrowed from E. Neubauer who is well
> > versed in Middle Persian (we are not talking Farsi here) and historic
> > Arabic; there are plenty of examples of the 'ain sound being hardly
> > distinguishable from the ghain in Arabic dialects and it seems that the
> > Middle Persian could have had an indifference towards the articulation
of
> > the "r", as in German, where the rolled "r" was replaced by the French
> > laryngal. The word rwd is used in the sense of string even in Farsi, cf.
> > Tarab-rwd. Anyhow, I am not myself qualified to discuss linguistics,
just as
> > you are not qualified to discuss organology: you cannot even tell apart
a
> > lute from a skin-covered gourd with a stick up its ...
>
>  snip...
> --
> Regards
>
> Mathias
>
> --
>
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Re: parchment, rwd and ch'in (Re: LUTE-etymology)

[Roman Turovsky]

> 
> Leather is tanned and elastic and thus unsuitable for use as a membrane.
Really?
How come it is always used so by the cultures that lack in parchment
technology?
Fretless banjos, drums etc, etc.
RT
-- 
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Re: parchment, rwd and ch'in (Re: LUTE-etymology)

[Roman Turovsky]

> As you take refuge, once again, to offensive language for lack of
> pausible arguments I quit discussion with you and your nonsense. Ask
> accomplished Arabists about your 'ain - ghain rubbish. Get a life,
> buddy.
As Americans say-
No pain, no ghain.
But it is interesting to see "lutes as foreign imports, in China", ain't it?
RT

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Roman M. Turovsky
http://polyhymnion.org/swv




> 
> "danyel"  schrieb:
>> Leather is tanned and elastic and thus unsuitable for use as a membrane.
>> The *rwd* theory is not my pet but borrowed from E. Neubauer who is well
>> versed in Middle Persian (we are not talking Farsi here) and historic
>> Arabic; there are plenty of examples of the 'ain sound being hardly
>> distinguishable from the ghain in Arabic dialects and it seems that the
>> Middle Persian could have had an indifference towards the articulation of
>> the "r", as in German, where the rolled "r" was replaced by the French
>> laryngal. The word rwd is used in the sense of string even in Farsi, cf.
>> Tarab-rwd. Anyhow, I am not myself qualified to discuss linguistics, just as
>> you are not qualified to discuss organology: you cannot even tell apart a
>> lute from a skin-covered gourd with a stick up its ...
> 
> snip...  
> -- 
> Regards
> 
> Mathias
> 
> --
> 
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Re: parchment, rwd and ch'in (Re: LUTE-etymology)

[Mathias Rösel]

As you take refuge, once again, to offensive language for lack of
pausible arguments I quit discussion with you and your nonsense. Ask
accomplished Arabists about your 'ain - ghain rubbish. Get a life,
buddy.

 "danyel"  schrieb:
> Leather is tanned and elastic and thus unsuitable for use as a membrane.
> The *rwd* theory is not my pet but borrowed from E. Neubauer who is well
> versed in Middle Persian (we are not talking Farsi here) and historic
> Arabic; there are plenty of examples of the 'ain sound being hardly
> distinguishable from the ghain in Arabic dialects and it seems that the
> Middle Persian could have had an indifference towards the articulation of
> the "r", as in German, where the rolled "r" was replaced by the French
> laryngal. The word rwd is used in the sense of string even in Farsi, cf.
> Tarab-rwd. Anyhow, I am not myself qualified to discuss linguistics, just as
> you are not qualified to discuss organology: you cannot even tell apart a
> lute from a skin-covered gourd with a stick up its ...

 snip...  
-- 
Regards

Mathias

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