Re: thoughts on increased tension on Baroque lute list
Ed Durbrow wrote: >>There is a scene in - I think it's "Sturm und Drang" when the young student >>complains about playing menuets on the lute and about all those grace which >>doesn't work right ... I'll look it up! It's not "Sturm und Drang", it's - I was right :) - Lenz's Hofmeister. The lute doesn't appear in Klinger's play. In Lenz's play apparently nobody complains about playing menuets on the lute, though. In I, 3 the Majorin sings [sic!] a Menuet. Rainer adS To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
Re: Thoughts on increased tension on Baroque lute list
> The only mention of Lenz I can find on the Baroque Lute List is a > message from Marcus Lutz on 8th May 2001. To save you looking for > it, I've copied it below. > > My archives go back only as far as 29th October 1999, so it is > possible that there are other messages about Lenz on the Baroque > Lute List, which are earlier than that. There has to be more. I remember distinctly a posting containing a fragment from Der Hofmeister, with a Lautenist personage. RT ps The Baroque Lute-List is not exactly suffering from hypertension, in spite of all the salt I add to it. > Hello Roman, > Hamann seemed to have been playing in coffee houses to earn his > living (before and after the told > meeting with this lutenist). > Look at (in German) > http://mauthner-gesellschaft.de/mauthner/hist/hama/hama3.html > > There is another poet of the Sturm-und-Drang-Period from K?sberg, > who liked to play the lute: > Jakob M. R. Lenz (1751-1792). > > > Markus > > - Original Message - > From: "Roman Turovsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "lute list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 5:54 PM > Subject: Re: thoughts on increased tension on Baroque lute list > > >>> "Sturm und Drang" is a famous play by Klinger. >>> The time of the "Geniekult" is today called "Sturm und Drang" - > after >>> Klinger's play. >>> >>> Famous plays of this period are Goethe's Goetz, Schiller's > R?er, and Lenz's >>> Hofmeister and Soldaten. >>> >>> All these plays should be available online at the German > Gutenberg web site. >>> By the way, does anybody know if Lenz played the lute? He seems > to be quite >>> familiar with lute terminology. >> Yes, we do. this has been discussed before, on the Baroque list. >> RT > > > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
Thoughts on increased tension on Baroque lute list
Dear Roman and Rainer, The only mention of Lenz I can find on the Baroque Lute List is a message from Marcus Lutz on 8th May 2001. To save you looking for it, I've copied it below. My archives go back only as far as 29th October 1999, so it is possible that there are other messages about Lenz on the Baroque Lute List, which are earlier than that. I've not checked the main Lute List. Best wishes, Stewart McCoy. Marcus' message: Hello Roman, Hamann seemed to have been playing in coffee houses to earn his living (before and after the told meeting with this lutenist). Look at (in German) http://mauthner-gesellschaft.de/mauthner/hist/hama/hama3.html There is another poet of the Sturm-und-Drang-Period from Königsberg, who liked to play the lute: Jakob M. R. Lenz (1751-1792). Markus - Original Message - From: "Roman Turovsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "lute list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 5:54 PM Subject: Re: thoughts on increased tension on Baroque lute list > > "Sturm und Drang" is a famous play by Klinger. > > The time of the "Geniekult" is today called "Sturm und Drang" - after > > Klinger's play. > > > > Famous plays of this period are Goethe's Goetz, Schiller's Räuber, and Lenz's > > Hofmeister and Soldaten. > > > > All these plays should be available online at the German Gutenberg web site. > > By the way, does anybody know if Lenz played the lute? He seems to be quite > > familiar with lute terminology. > Yes, we do. this has been discussed before, on the Baroque list. > RT To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
Re: thoughts on increased tension on Baroque lute list
> "Sturm und Drang" is a famous play by Klinger. > The time of the "Geniekult" is today called "Sturm und Drang" - after > Klinger's play. > > Famous plays of this period are Goethe's Goetz, Schiller's Räuber, and Lenz's > Hofmeister and Soldaten. > > All these plays should be available online at the German Gutenberg web site. > By the way, does anybody know if Lenz played the lute? He seems to be quite > familiar with lute terminology. Yes, we do. this has been discussed before, on the Baroque list. RT -- http://polyhymnion.org/torban To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
RE: thoughts on increased tension on Baroque lute list
Erm, "Sturm und Drang" is a famous play by Klinger. The time of the "Geniekult" is today called "Sturm und Drang" - after Klinger's play. Famous plays of this period are Goethe's Goetz, Schiller's Räuber, and Lenz's Hofmeister and Soldaten. All these plays should be available online at the German Gutenberg web site. By the way, does anybody know if Lenz played the lute? He seems to be quite familiar with lute terminology. Best wishes, Rainer aus dem Spring IS department, development Tel.: +49 211-5296-355 Fax.: +49 211-5296-405 SMTP: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -Original Message- > From: Ed Durbrow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 5:53 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lute list > Subject: Re: thoughts on increased tension on Baroque lute list > > >There is a scene in - I think it's "Sturm und Drang" when the young > >student complains about playing menuets on the lute and > about all those > >grace which doesn't work right ... I'll look it up! > > Is there an English title for this film? I couldn't find it > in the Movie database. > -- > Ed Durbrow > Saitama, Japan > http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ > > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > ** CONFIDENTIALITY DISCLAIMER The information in this email and in any attachments is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy this message, delete any copies held on your systems and notify the sender immediately. You should not retain, copy or use this email for any purpose outside of any NDA currently existing between Toshiba Electronics Europe GmbH and yourselves. **
Re: thoughts on increased tension on Baroque lute list
>There is a scene in - I think it's "Sturm und Drang" when the young student >complains about playing menuets on the lute and about all those grace which >doesn't work right ... I'll look it up! Is there an English title for this film? I couldn't find it in the Movie database. -- Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
Re: thoughts on increased tension on Baroque lute list
There is a scene in - I think it's "Sturm und Drang" when the young student complains about playing menuets on the lute and about all those grace which doesn't work right ... I'll look it up! best wishes Tomas Am Montag, 22. November 2004 17:55 schrieb bill kilpatrick: > i wish - not for the first time - that we could time > travel back hundreds of years and listen to some poor > guy who's just not playing it right. > > > >constants vary. > > > > > >- bill > > > > And pigs may fly, and the centre does not hold. > > > > David Cameron > > = > "and thus i made...a small vihuela from the shell of a creepy crawly..." - > Don Gonzalo de Guerrero (1512), "Historias de la Conquista del Mayab" by > Fra Joseph of San Buenaventura. go to: > http://www.charango.cl/paginas/quieninvento.htm > > > > ___ > Win a castle for NYE with your mates and Yahoo! Messenger > http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- Thomas Schall Niederhofheimer Weg 3 D-65843 Sulzbach 06196/74519 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: thoughts on increased tension on Baroque lute list
i wish - not for the first time - that we could time travel back hundreds of years and listen to some poor guy who's just not playing it right. > >constants vary. > > > >- bill > > And pigs may fly, and the centre does not hold. > > David Cameron = "and thus i made...a small vihuela from the shell of a creepy crawly..." - Don Gonzalo de Guerrero (1512), "Historias de la Conquista del Mayab" by Fra Joseph of San Buenaventura. go to: http://www.charango.cl/paginas/quieninvento.htm ___ Win a castle for NYE with your mates and Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
