Re: Tuner Recommendations
I own an Intellitouch tuner and found it next to useless with my lute. >Re: Ronn's tuner. He may have had something like the Intellitouch >tuner clamped on the peg head. A quick search on eBay for 'lute >tuner' in musical instruments should get you a look at it. It would >surprise me if WoodWind & BrassWind didn't have some of these, too. > >Cheers, >Steve > >timothy motz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>I also have a Korg CA30 and have found it to be quite satisfactory >and within my price range. I bought a clip-on pickup that plugs into >the input jack on the tuner, which I've found to be very helpful, >especially when my teacher and I are tuning up right before a lesson. >The tuner no longer picks up his lute when I'm trying to tune mine. >I just clip the pickup on the peg-head, although it works equally >well if I just clip onto a peg key. > >The CA30s are cheap enough that I will probably buy a second one to >keep in the case with my new lute when it's finished. > >I remember at the 2002 LSA conference sitting slightly behind and to >the side of Ronn McFarlane as he performed (it was a packed room) and >seeing red lights blinking on the back of the peg-head of his lute. >It took me a bit to figure it out, but he must have had a very >compact tuner attached to or embedded in the peg head, which I >thought was really cool. I wonder what kind it was? > >Tim >> >> >> Original Message >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], lute@cs.dartmouth.edu >>Subject: Re: Tuner Recommendations >>Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 21:53:30 -0700 (PDT) >> >>>Hi Rob, >>> >>>I have three Korg CA 30 tuners-- one in my trumpet gig bag, one in >>my horn case, and one for the lutes. I've found them less >>susceptible than some of the others, (particularly, I believe, my >>quick tune), to harmonic spoofing. Its range runs from C1 to C8. >>It's among the smallest at about 60mm wide, 103mm long, and 15mm >>thick. It will calibrate from at least A=415 to A=460 and has a >>standard 1/4 inch jack in which you can plug a tuner pickup. It will >>also give you a tone for an A or a Bb. Finally, it's among the least >>expensive of the bunch at about USD 20 here in the States. >>> >>>A good source for them can be found at www.wwbw.com. That's The >>Woodwind & The Brasswind, a large music store in northern Indiana. >>You can search on Korg CA30 in the upper left hand corner of their >>home page. You can also read reviews by folks who've bought these >>tuners. Most seem to have given it a five (out of five) star rating. >> >>> >>>Best regards, >>>Steve Ramey >>> >>>Ramon Marco de Sevilla wrote: >>>What tuners have you had experience with or would you recommend? >>> >>>Korg, Arion, Sabine? >>> >>>Thanks! >>>Rob >>> >>> >>> >>>To get on or off this list see list information at >>>http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >>> >>>-- >>> > > > > > >-- -- Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/
RE: Tuner Recommendations
I also own a VSAM. I'm also generally pleased. Two caveats:There is no volume control for the tone, which is rather loud. It still struggles with high strings D & G. >Rob, >it is also worth looking at the Peterson tuners which, although more >expensive, >have a number of features that make them useful. I keep on dropping my Korg >OT-12 and the case is now almost in pieces. The Peterson V-SAM II has a rubber >'boot' that certainly protects it if it drops on the floor. Peterson also make >a clamp to hold the tuner onto the music stand. The virtual strobe tuning is a >delight and I think my lutes are now far better tuned than before. The >Metronome is full-featured. It also has a function that allows the metronome >sound to be turned off after a certain number of beats. The VSAM II has a >number of pre-set temperaments and provides two extra channels for the user to >programme in their own offsets. The stated accuracy of the Peterson VSAM is >higher than 'needle' or 'LED' tuners and the Peterson website has a number of >articles that explains the relevance of this for practical purposes. I have no >connection with Peterson, BTW. I am delighted with my VSAM II. (good for rock >lute!) >Charles > >-Original Message- >From: Ramon Marco de Sevilla [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: 04 April 2005 03:06 >To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu >Subject: Tuner Recommendations > > >What tuners have you had experience with or would you recommend? > >Korg, Arion, Sabine? > >Thanks! >Rob > > > >To get on or off this list see list information at >http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/
RE: Tuner Recommendations
>For anyone with a Palm device, there is a program called Musician's Tools. It has a tone-emitting tuner, a metronome, and a Circle of Fifths function. Your Palm device has to have a speaker for most of this to work, but I loaded it on my smart phone and it's handy. Not a substitute for a real tuner, but good enough in a pinch. Tim > > > Original Message >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], lute@cs.dartmouth.edu >Subject: RE: Tuner Recommendations >Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 15:40:20 +0100 > >>Rob, >>it is also worth looking at the Peterson tuners which, although more >expensive, >>have a number of features that make them useful. I keep on dropping >my Korg >>OT-12 and the case is now almost in pieces. The Peterson V-SAM II >has a rubber >>'boot' that certainly protects it if it drops on the floor. Peterson >also make >>a clamp to hold the tuner onto the music stand. The virtual strobe >tuning is a >>delight and I think my lutes are now far better tuned than before. >The >>Metronome is full-featured. It also has a function that allows the >metronome >>sound to be turned off after a certain number of beats. The VSAM II >has a >>number of pre-set temperaments and provides two extra channels for >the user to >>programme in their own offsets. The stated accuracy of the Peterson >VSAM is >>higher than 'needle' or 'LED' tuners and the Peterson website has a >number of >>articles that explains the relevance of this for practical purposes. >I have no >>connection with Peterson, BTW. I am delighted with my VSAM II. (good >for rock >>lute!) >>Charles >> >>-Original Message- >>From: Ramon Marco de Sevilla [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Sent: 04 April 2005 03:06 >>To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu >>Subject: Tuner Recommendations >> >> >>What tuners have you had experience with or would you recommend? >> >>Korg, Arion, Sabine? >> >>Thanks! >>Rob >> >> >> >>To get on or off this list see list information at >>http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >> >> >>
Re: Tuner Recommendations
> The Sabine has a weird adhesive on the back which "Weird" is the wrong word. I should have said "high tech" instead. The adhesive works well. It leaves no residue. It looks and feels like vinyl. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
Re: Tuner Recommendations
> I remember at the 2002 LSA conference sitting slightly behind and to > the side of Ronn McFarlane as he performed (it was a packed room) and > seeing red lights blinking on the back of the peg-head of his lute. > It took me a bit to figure it out, but he must have had a very > compact tuner attached to or embedded in the peg head, which I > thought was really cool. I wonder what kind it was? There is a brand "Sabine" which uses a row of 12 blinking LEDs instead of needle: fast blink red= very sharp slow blink red= sharp green = OK slow blink amber = flat fast blink amber = very flat The Sabine has a weird adhesive on the back which (they claim) does not harm finishes. I have never left mine on for more than a few minutes. I have a Sabine, and it works OK, at least as well as the Korg. It is very compact (same area as a business card, and thick as a cigarette). Some models are built with a simulated wood grain (as camoflage). The absolute best tuner (in my experience) is a strobe tuner with an actual mechanical rotating wheel, coupled with a contact mike. In its display you can see non-linear vibration, string imperfections (false overtones), overtones, etc, in real time. No wandering needles, no guessing. Unfortunately, they are expensive ($300-600), big (2/3 of a loaf of bread), and heavy (maybe 2 pounds). Peterson's "virtual strobe" (with an LCD display instead of a mechanical wheel) is crummy compared with their mechanical wheel model. I'll sell mine for 1/3 retail. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
Re: Tuner Recommendations
Tim, Re: Ronn's tuner. He may have had something like the Intellitouch tuner clamped on the peg head. A quick search on eBay for 'lute tuner' in musical instruments should get you a look at it. It would surprise me if WoodWind & BrassWind didn't have some of these, too. Cheers, Steve timothy motz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I also have a Korg CA30 and have found it to be quite satisfactory and within my price range. I bought a clip-on pickup that plugs into the input jack on the tuner, which I've found to be very helpful, especially when my teacher and I are tuning up right before a lesson. The tuner no longer picks up his lute when I'm trying to tune mine. I just clip the pickup on the peg-head, although it works equally well if I just clip onto a peg key. The CA30s are cheap enough that I will probably buy a second one to keep in the case with my new lute when it's finished. I remember at the 2002 LSA conference sitting slightly behind and to the side of Ronn McFarlane as he performed (it was a packed room) and seeing red lights blinking on the back of the peg-head of his lute. It took me a bit to figure it out, but he must have had a very compact tuner attached to or embedded in the peg head, which I thought was really cool. I wonder what kind it was? Tim > > > Original Message >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], lute@cs.dartmouth.edu >Subject: Re: Tuner Recommendations >Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 21:53:30 -0700 (PDT) > >>Hi Rob, >> >>I have three Korg CA 30 tuners-- one in my trumpet gig bag, one in >my horn case, and one for the lutes. I've found them less >susceptible than some of the others, (particularly, I believe, my >quick tune), to harmonic spoofing. Its range runs from C1 to C8. >It's among the smallest at about 60mm wide, 103mm long, and 15mm >thick. It will calibrate from at least A=415 to A=460 and has a >standard 1/4 inch jack in which you can plug a tuner pickup. It will >also give you a tone for an A or a Bb. Finally, it's among the least >expensive of the bunch at about USD 20 here in the States. >> >>A good source for them can be found at www.wwbw.com. That's The >Woodwind & The Brasswind, a large music store in northern Indiana. >You can search on Korg CA30 in the upper left hand corner of their >home page. You can also read reviews by folks who've bought these >tuners. Most seem to have given it a five (out of five) star rating. > >> >>Best regards, >>Steve Ramey >> >>Ramon Marco de Sevilla wrote: >>What tuners have you had experience with or would you recommend? >> >>Korg, Arion, Sabine? >> >>Thanks! >>Rob >> >> >> >>To get on or off this list see list information at >>http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >> >>-- >> --
Re: Tuner Recommendations - Seiko problem
How about KORG AW-1 ? http://www.korg.com/gear/info.asp?A_PROD_NO=AW1 It's very small and can be calibrated to a wide range of pitches (410-480 Hz). - Y. Atarashi Wayne Cripps wrote: > > I recently got a Seiko tuner - SAT500 - partly because it had a 415 option. > But when I set the pitch to 415 the tuner freezes up. It works at all > other pitches. Has anyone else had this problem? > > Other than that it is a nice tuner. > > Wayne > > >>My old tuner finally broke last week, so I went to a local music store in >>my town and purchased a Seiko tuner. My choice was either the Seiko or the >>Korg. IO chose the Seiko over the Kork, because it is bigger & has a >>larger VU meter, and therefore easier to read. It is fully chromatic, and >>has all the same features that Steven has listed. >> >>Ed >> > > > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > >
Re: Tuner Recommendations - Seiko problem
I recently got a Seiko tuner - SAT500 - partly because it had a 415 option. But when I set the pitch to 415 the tuner freezes up. It works at all other pitches. Has anyone else had this problem? Other than that it is a nice tuner. Wayne > > My old tuner finally broke last week, so I went to a local music store in > my town and purchased a Seiko tuner. My choice was either the Seiko or the > Korg. IO chose the Seiko over the Kork, because it is bigger & has a > larger VU meter, and therefore easier to read. It is fully chromatic, and > has all the same features that Steven has listed. > > Ed > To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
RE: Tuner Recommendations
Rob, it is also worth looking at the Peterson tuners which, although more expensive, have a number of features that make them useful. I keep on dropping my Korg OT-12 and the case is now almost in pieces. The Peterson V-SAM II has a rubber 'boot' that certainly protects it if it drops on the floor. Peterson also make a clamp to hold the tuner onto the music stand. The virtual strobe tuning is a delight and I think my lutes are now far better tuned than before. The Metronome is full-featured. It also has a function that allows the metronome sound to be turned off after a certain number of beats. The VSAM II has a number of pre-set temperaments and provides two extra channels for the user to programme in their own offsets. The stated accuracy of the Peterson VSAM is higher than 'needle' or 'LED' tuners and the Peterson website has a number of articles that explains the relevance of this for practical purposes. I have no connection with Peterson, BTW. I am delighted with my VSAM II. (good for rock lute!) Charles -Original Message- From: Ramon Marco de Sevilla [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 April 2005 03:06 To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: Tuner Recommendations What tuners have you had experience with or would you recommend? Korg, Arion, Sabine? Thanks! Rob To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
Re: Tuner Recommendations
>I also have a Korg CA30 and have found it to be quite satisfactory and within my price range. I bought a clip-on pickup that plugs into the input jack on the tuner, which I've found to be very helpful, especially when my teacher and I are tuning up right before a lesson. The tuner no longer picks up his lute when I'm trying to tune mine. I just clip the pickup on the peg-head, although it works equally well if I just clip onto a peg key. The CA30s are cheap enough that I will probably buy a second one to keep in the case with my new lute when it's finished. I remember at the 2002 LSA conference sitting slightly behind and to the side of Ronn McFarlane as he performed (it was a packed room) and seeing red lights blinking on the back of the peg-head of his lute. It took me a bit to figure it out, but he must have had a very compact tuner attached to or embedded in the peg head, which I thought was really cool. I wonder what kind it was? Tim > > > Original Message >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], lute@cs.dartmouth.edu >Subject: Re: Tuner Recommendations >Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 21:53:30 -0700 (PDT) > >>Hi Rob, >> >>I have three Korg CA 30 tuners-- one in my trumpet gig bag, one in >my horn case, and one for the lutes. I've found them less >susceptible than some of the others, (particularly, I believe, my >quick tune), to harmonic spoofing. Its range runs from C1 to C8. >It's among the smallest at about 60mm wide, 103mm long, and 15mm >thick. It will calibrate from at least A=415 to A=460 and has a >standard 1/4 inch jack in which you can plug a tuner pickup. It will >also give you a tone for an A or a Bb. Finally, it's among the least >expensive of the bunch at about USD 20 here in the States. >> >>A good source for them can be found at www.wwbw.com. That's The >Woodwind & The Brasswind, a large music store in northern Indiana. >You can search on Korg CA30 in the upper left hand corner of their >home page. You can also read reviews by folks who've bought these >tuners. Most seem to have given it a five (out of five) star rating. > >> >>Best regards, >>Steve Ramey >> >>Ramon Marco de Sevilla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>What tuners have you had experience with or would you recommend? >> >>Korg, Arion, Sabine? >> >>Thanks! >>Rob >> >> >> >>To get on or off this list see list information at >>http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >> >>-- >>
Re: Tuner Recommendations
My old tuner finally broke last week, so I went to a local music store in my town and purchased a Seiko tuner. My choice was either the Seiko or the Korg. IO chose the Seiko over the Kork, because it is bigger & has a larger VU meter, and therefore easier to read. It is fully chromatic, and has all the same features that Steven has listed. Ed At 09:53 PM 4/3/2005 -0700, Steve Ramey wrote: >Hi Rob, > >I have three Korg CA 30 tuners-- one in my trumpet gig bag, one in my >horn case, and one for the lutes. I've found them less susceptible than >some of the others, (particularly, I believe, my quick tune), to harmonic >spoofing. Its range runs from C1 to C8. It's among the smallest at about >60mm wide, 103mm long, and 15mm thick. It will calibrate from at least >A=415 to A=460 and has a standard 1/4 inch jack in which you can plug a >tuner pickup. It will also give you a tone for an A or a Bb. Finally, >it's among the least expensive of the bunch at about USD 20 here in the >States. > >A good source for them can be found at www.wwbw.com. That's The Woodwind >& The Brasswind, a large music store in northern Indiana. You can search >on Korg CA30 in the upper left hand corner of their home page. You can >also read reviews by folks who've bought these tuners. Most seem to have >given it a five (out of five) star rating. > >Best regards, >Steve Ramey > >Ramon Marco de Sevilla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >What tuners have you had experience with or would you recommend? > >Korg, Arion, Sabine? > >Thanks! >Rob > > > >To get on or off this list see list information at >http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > >-- Edward Martin 2817 East 2nd Street Duluth, Minnesota 55812 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] voice: (218) 728-1202
Re: Tuner Recommendations
Dear Rpb, > What tuners have you had experience with or would you recommend? > > Korg, Arion, Sabine? I kind of prefer the tuning fork, but I have also a tuning program in my mobile phone! It works in phones with Symbian operating system (Series 60). It only listens and gives the Hz, the note name, and the cent deviation from the equal temperament note. Very useful and handy, because it travels just in your phone... :-) The name is GuitarTuner, and they have thee page for the program (free for 30 days!): http://symbian.flyerone.com/gt/index.html Quote: " GuitarTuner is an automatic, interactive guitar tuner software designed exclusively for the Series 60 platform. The built-in microphone of the device is used to record and analyze any sound that can be heard, and the detected pitch is displayed in real-time. This application is designed for stringed instruments and the proprietary algorithm used to detect the pitch has a greater accuracy than many analog tuners." I have no connections to that company!! Just a happy client :) Arto To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
Re: Tuner Recommendations
Hi Rob, I have three Korg CA 30 tuners-- one in my trumpet gig bag, one in my horn case, and one for the lutes. I've found them less susceptible than some of the others, (particularly, I believe, my quick tune), to harmonic spoofing. Its range runs from C1 to C8. It's among the smallest at about 60mm wide, 103mm long, and 15mm thick. It will calibrate from at least A=415 to A=460 and has a standard 1/4 inch jack in which you can plug a tuner pickup. It will also give you a tone for an A or a Bb. Finally, it's among the least expensive of the bunch at about USD 20 here in the States. A good source for them can be found at www.wwbw.com. That's The Woodwind & The Brasswind, a large music store in northern Indiana. You can search on Korg CA30 in the upper left hand corner of their home page. You can also read reviews by folks who've bought these tuners. Most seem to have given it a five (out of five) star rating. Best regards, Steve Ramey Ramon Marco de Sevilla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What tuners have you had experience with or would you recommend? Korg, Arion, Sabine? Thanks! Rob To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --
Tuner Recommendations
What tuners have you had experience with or would you recommend? Korg, Arion, Sabine? Thanks! Rob To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
