Re: [Lynx-dev] reading code section

2020-11-21 Thread Halaasz Saandor via Lynx-dev

2020/11/21 12:11 ... Tom Masterson:
This is al a good discussion but it does not answer my question.  For 
some pages I can modify the html and make it readable, however there a 
number of sites out in the wild that use the ... to show 
coding.  I would like to be able to read that code without having to 
download and reformat the pages.  So is it possible to have lynx read 
those segments or do I need to modify lynx itself?


What webpage?
I try something bracketed by ... and with no trouble 
clearly see it in Lynx. Furthermore, I tryed also an unknown entity and 
found that Lynx simply ignored that. Therefore, in your case it is not 
ignored, but turned into something else. If it were 

Re: [Lynx-dev] Removing bookmarks

2020-09-21 Thread Halaasz Saandor via Lynx-dev

2020/09/21 13:50 ... Travis Siegel:
Is your bookmarks file in the root dire ctory? I find that windows 
really doesn't like users using files that are in the root of a drive. 
If it's in a subdirectory, then obviously this isn't the problem, but 
figured I'd mention it, just in case.


Actually, it is best if anything you change for yourself is under the 
directory named in the environental variable USERPROFILE; better yet, in 
a directory for only Lynx under that in APPDATA. For me I do this in a 
batch file:

set HOME=%APPDATA:\=/%/lynx


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Re: [Lynx-dev] Adding $SOCKS5_PROXY support, changing command line option

2020-08-08 Thread Halaasz Saandor via Lynx-dev

2020/08/07 20:03 ... Thorsten Glaser:

Using (char *)-1 can cause traps on some platforms, or
the compiler to replace the entire codepath (including
backwards!) with nōnsense.


And if the platform is x86, what of long and short pointers? Or do all 
the C-compilers use only the longest?
If pointer value is -1, what does the compiler to make it longer when 
called for, and how does it know that it is?


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Re: [Lynx-dev] the sun, the sun

2020-08-08 Thread Halaasz Saandor via Lynx-dev

2020/08/08 17:43 ... Steffen Nurpmeso:

Being all in favour of
keeping UTC aligned with the sun, whatever this means.


I suspect that it is time to detach the physical second, that physicists 
use, from the second that is one 86400th of a day, and find a definition 
of "day" that depends on our experience of sunlight. The last definition 
that I found makes a day 86400 seconds.


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Re: [Lynx-dev] rendering (0x97)

2020-07-01 Thread Halaasz Saandor via Lynx-dev

2020/06/30 10:31 ... David Woolley:
Are you sure that the browser is given free reign?  I thought the HTML5 
principle is that every browser should produce the same output 
regardless of whether the document was syntactically valid, and that is 
why they define error cases in such detail.


I think there is also a principle that pre-HTML5 invalid pages should 
produce results similar to those on mainstream pre-HTML5 browsers.


Seems I misstated it. I meant that in former interpretations of HTML, 
ere 5, in case of such error the webbrowser s behavior is not defined. 
And after Mouse s words, if every (mis)use of HTML gets a fixed 
interpretation, where is the error?


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Re: [Lynx-dev] rendering (0x97)

2020-06-30 Thread Halaasz Saandor via Lynx-dev

2020/06/28 13:34 ... Thomas Dickey:

but in the meantime, the html5 crowd declared that iso-8859-1 is
identical to cp1252


I, too, think the crowd crazie, for other reasons besides: when I heard 
of this crowd I glanced at the website, and found great effort exerted 
on the meaning of strings that had been considered bad HTML, say text 
between  and , with the webbrowser free to make any 
interpretation of it. Furthermore, I looked for limitless nesting, as 
the deprecated  is allowed within , to the webbrowser s 
limits, and found that such limitless nesting is not and never shall be 
part of HTML, right after claims that the element structure allows 
that--but only in style!
Sounds as if one has to use something like MSoft Word to generate it, 
because Word well fakes nesting by means of indenting. Ugh.


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Re: [Lynx-dev] rendering (0x97)

2020-06-30 Thread Halaasz Saandor via Lynx-dev

2020/06/29 14:43 ... Mouse:

I hav seen that, and , in Microsoft HTML from Word.

That means little.  Just because a Microsoft program generates
something does not mean it's compatible with non-Microsoft software,
and sometimes does not even mean it's compatible with other Microsoft
software, and certainly does not mean it's correct.


My point was the perversity of Microsoft software. HT is almost useless 
in HTML, it is only another space.


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Re: [Lynx-dev] rendering (0x97)

2020-06-29 Thread Halaasz Saandor via Lynx-dev

2020/06/28 18:28 ... David Woolley:
but if they are sending  over the wire, rather than the a byte 
containing the value 151, the contents encoding wouldn't matter, as 
entities are interpreted in Unicode,


What do you mean? The actual Unicode number is U+2014, or 8212, and 
 is simply cp1252 in disguise. I hav seen that, and , in 
Microsoft HTML from Word.


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Re: [Lynx-dev] copy URL to clipboard shortcut

2020-04-20 Thread Halaasz Saandor via Lynx-dev

2020/04/20 02:41 ... s...@stof999.ch:

it would be greath to have a shortcut for copying the URL of the file
currently viewing INTO clipboard.


Well, one can assign a key to "TO_CLIPBOARD". I assign "S" to it.
See the key-map, at first assigned to "k".

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Re: [Lynx-dev] changing lynx default homepage from the comand line?

2019-11-16 Thread Halaasz Saandor via Lynx-dev

2019/11/15 18:26 ... Larry Hynes via Lynx-dev:

If you can set the WWW_HOME environment variable, lynx will use that as
the startfile.


I use this method, although I have complete control of my "lynx.cfg".

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Re: [Lynx-dev] google problem

2019-11-16 Thread Halaasz Saandor via Lynx-dev

2019/11/15 12:03 ... dan d.:

Google made a server side change to affect chrome behavior on wed.,  It was a 
mess.  Wasn't that about the time the lynx behavior changed?
-- Google Chrome experiment crashes browser tabs, impacts companies worldwide 
https://www.zdnet.com/article/google-chrome-experiment-crashes-browser-tabs-impacts-companies-worldwide/ 


I doubt that if the administrators knew that Google installed outside 
"push"ing into Chrome they would have allowed installing it in their 
enterprises. It is hard for me to imagine a worse security fault, a 
built-in opening for outside interference ("Finch"), although it be from 
the vendor.


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Re: [Lynx-dev] lynx and amazon?

2019-09-03 Thread Halaasz Saandor via Lynx-dev

2019/09/02 16:43 ... Karen Lewellen:

everything from the poor quality of image and sound


O yeah: I see, but in some of those pictures, I can only guess that the 
intended thing is actually shown, and first attempt often fails.


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Re: [Lynx-dev] ... Accessible Search Engines ... the nasty mouse.

2019-08-31 Thread Halaasz Saandor via Lynx-dev

2019/08/31 16:31 ... Karen Lewellen:
Links, the chain and elinks can be low graphics browsers  that match one 
fundamental level of compliance, that *everything* works with the keyboard.


O, I love that. I wish I could forgo the mouse for everything but 
drawing. My showlder always grows sore.


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Re: [Lynx-dev] "Correct" tab-stops?

2019-07-19 Thread Halaasz Saandor via Lynx-dev

2018/10/29 04:07 ... Bela Lubkin:

# "vt100" -- correct messed up tab stops on VT100 / ANSI terminals


I hav long believed that the right thing is to make no assumptions about 
tab stops.


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Re: [Lynx-dev] Displaying a pdf live on the Fly?

2019-06-04 Thread Halaasz Saandor

2019/06/03 22:58 ... Tim Chase:

The quality of the output depends largely on how the PDF was created,
so I have some mostly-pure-text PDFs where it works great; and I have
some PDFs that are full of graphics and poorly laid-out that are next
to useless when piped through pdftotext.  YMMV.


And I hav encountered PDFs that were really only collections of 
photographed pages.


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Re: [Lynx-dev] lynx and login spam

2019-04-17 Thread Halaasz Saandor

2019/04/17 10:31 ... Jude DaShiell:

Mozilla is finally correcting an error with web pages that prompt multiple
times for visitors to log in.  What mozilla is doing is allowing a maximum
of two login prompts then suppressing any further login prompts from web
pages.  Does lynx already handle this and if not, could lynx handle this
in some future version?


What is the error? The information is returned by the webbrowser but 
nonetheless the server repeats the request? That I never have seen.


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Re: [Lynx-dev] Trouble using your browser.

2018-11-12 Thread Halaasz Saandor

2018/11/11 14:26 ... Rory Mason:

Hi, I'm using Ubuntu 16.04. I am trying to use the search engine
Ramblr, and whenever I try to open a web page on it, I have to use
another browser. I don't seem to be able to open web pages using this
terminal based browser. Is it possible to use the right-key function to
open web pages with Lynx? I appreciate any help you can give.


Well, Lynx doesn't do Javascript ("javascript:void(0)").
That (ramblr.com) seems an unusual search engine.

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Re: [Lynx-dev] What blanks the blank spaces at the beginning of a line?

2018-10-29 Thread Halaasz Saandor

2018/10/28 06:41 ... Thomas Dickey:

Lynx puts blanks at the beginning of each line (except headers, etc)
as part of its built-in style.


And I was glad when you implemented "NO_MARGINS"-"-nomargins". To me it 
always seemed backwards that the bulk of the text was indented and the 
headers were not--no indenting at all seems better than that.


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Re: [Lynx-dev] Links do not work

2018-10-29 Thread Halaasz Saandor

2018/10/29 03:23 ... Riku Virtanen:

now I noticed whole error:

Alert: unable to create secure connection to remote host.

Have I, i.e. compiled Lynx with wrong settings etc?


Are your certificates up to date?

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Re: [Lynx-dev] lynx doesn't track use for most sites

2018-09-21 Thread Halaasz Saandor

2018/09/21 11:50 ... Karen Lewellen:

Why would I  want The New Yorker to limit my reading?


It is not hard for me to imagine that the New Yorker would want to limit it.

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Re: [Lynx-dev] making money from the news

2018-09-21 Thread Halaasz Saandor

2018/09/21 06:15 ... David Woolley:
Remember, though, that news sites are not there to provide news.  They 
are there to make money.
It is quite a contrast from the founding of most newspapers. For most of 
the founders making money was a necessary evil. Daniel Defoe and 
Jonathan Swift had outlooks which they wanted made public. Now Hearst 
wanted to make money, but he had an ax to grind, too. Some 20th-century 
owners wanted to correct and adjust public opinion. For the online 
sites, money is all.


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Re: [Lynx-dev] lynx renders as q

2018-09-03 Thread Halaasz Saandor

2018/09/02 08:48 ... russellb...@gmail.com:


lynx renders 3c8 & 3a8, psi & Psi, as q & Q - q?



Well, the right prong chopped off, the rest of psi looks slightly like 
"q", no?


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Re: [Lynx-dev] TLS-"transport layer security" & LYNX

2018-07-29 Thread Halaasz Saandor

2018/07/24 04:14 ... David Woolley:
In particular, having a non-HTTPS site will result in appearing a long 
way down the Google search results.


I try'd that with a Google-search for something local to me, "toledo 
lucas public library" and did not see that effect, but saw something 
doubtless most of you know, that every link in the answer points to 
Google. (I usually use Duckduckgo.)


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Re: [Lynx-dev] lynx un-renders

2018-06-04 Thread Halaasz Saandor

2018/05/28 04:57 ... Thorsten Glaser:

Now the codepage 1252 is a superset of latin1. latin1
leaves 0x80‥0x9F for C1 control characters (and latin1
is exactly the first 256 codepoints of Unicode), while
cp1252 assigns stuff like € and “” inside that block.


I suppose the following is legalistic

If "latin1 is exactly the first 256 codepoints of Unicode" then cp1252 
is not a superset of Latin1: instead, instead of C1 characters cp1252 
has a jumble of graphics. If Latin1 is, say, ASCII with 96 more 
graphics, with a gap for C1, then indeed cp1252 is a superset of Latin1, 
but then it is not the first 256 codepoints of Unicode. I know not which 
outlook is actually taken.


O, how I miss Latin1! In Mozilla software it no longer appears. I now 
use only ASCII in web-pages that I write, symbols outside that range 
written with &...;.


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Re: [Lynx-dev] Lynx does NOT default to https support

2018-05-22 Thread Halaasz Saandor

2018/05/22 04:19 ... David Woolley:
It appears to be a policy pushed by Google, and it looks as though http 
sites will lose their position in Google's search results.


If you impose a no https policy on the internet, you will find that you 
can only access sites that don't know or care about current best practice.


Google decides current best practice?

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Re: [Lynx-dev] Website shows blank page in Lynx browser

2018-04-11 Thread Halaasz Saandor

2018/04/11 21:27 ... Jude DaShiell:
What would be really neat if it happened is if Tim Burnersley went and 
did a class action suit


Burnersley? How about Berners-Lee?

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Re: [Lynx-dev] help on lynx compilation

2018-03-29 Thread Halaasz Saandor

2018/03/29 08:53 ... clr.g...@use.startmail.com:

I forgot to say that I tried to install the 2.8.8 rel.1 version from the win32 
installer I found here :http://invisible-island.net/lynx/
but when I start Lynx, I have a stealthy message : "Alert!: Unable to connect to 
remote host." and the window disappears ...


I guess that you have no valid certificate for that webpage. If you 
start Lynx with no URL and feed it the URL you for longer will see the 
error message.


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