Re: [Lynx-dev] Lynx and Wordpress?
I believe it is part of wordpress but I will have to look when I get to my computer which won’t be till later tonight or tomorrow morning. Tom Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 2, 2023, at 16:48, Karen Lewellen wrote: > > Hi Tom, > To insure I am following, there is a plug in called classic editor? > I may be able to allow dreamhost the chance to create a test environment > for me, they did offer. > Granted they use an older edition of lynx, but I do appreciate what you > provide here. > Karen > > > >> On Sun, 1 Jan 2023, Tom Masterson wrote: >> >> I have 4 sites that I work on all in Wordpress. The accessibility of >> editing them depends on what plugins you use. She classic editor is very >> easy to use and in many cases I simply use lynx and if it is a large Chang >> pull it to vim and then save it back to lynx press tehe save button on the >> page and press on. For things that need to be pretty I ask my wife for help >> as colors and image placement have little meaning for me. >> >> Tom >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Jan 1, 2023, at 18:51, Karen Lewellen wrote: >>> >>> Hi there, >>> I agree with ease, my personal site is in html, so when I have to change >>> things like a phone number, I can just use an editor. >>> However, this site will be new. >>> dreamhost provides the WordPress tool, but they also just provide regular >>> ftp for uploading. >>> If I could find someone willing to do the work, I would just pay them >>> within, reason. >>> Everything will be local, as in in my dream host workspace. just desire a >>> tool, and since WordPress is offered, thought I would ask. >>> Keeping in mind that I use shellworld, although I do have links for DOS on >>> my computer, any easy creation tool that is not WordPress then? >>> Karen >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Sat, 31 Dec 2022, Tim Chase wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 2022-12-30 23:42, Karen Lewellen wrote: >>>>> While I generally have few issues accessing WordPress created >>>>> sites, at least the one I have encountered, that does not necessarily >>>>> translate to the tool itself. >>>> >>>> If I understand correctly, I believe you're talking about the >>>> accessibility of the admin/authoring portions of Wordpress which >>>> is independent of the accessibility of the resulting site published >>>> using Wordpress. >>>> >>>>> Anyone successfully use WordPress with Lynx? >>>> >>>> It's been a while since I've played with an install. If the >>>> admin/authoring panel isn't accessible from lynx (which might well >>>> be the case since there was a major shift a while back in the >>>> content-editor widget, changing from a more straightforward text >>>> entry box to a rich-edit box), there's "wp-cli" (https://wp-cli.org/) >>>> utility which lets you manage just about every aspect of a Wordpress >>>> install from the command-line, including posting and comment >>>> management. >>>> >>>> That said, unless I *have* to use Wordpress for something, I generally >>>> prefer using a static site generator (SSG) to maintain my personal >>>> sites. I use a combination of Nikola (https://getnikola.com/) and >>>> a custom SSG that I wrote for my own uses depending on which site. >>>> But there are lots of others like Hugo or Jekyll. Big advantages >>>> include: >>>> >>>> - everything is local >>>> >>>> - the generation process just creates an "output/" folder that you >>>> can copy up to your server however you want (whether FTP, rsync, >>>> scp, or some web GUI) >>>> >>>> - there's nothing dynamic on the server that could be exploited/hacked >>>> since it's all just text files >>>> >>>> - the resulting pages are FAST even on a ridiculously underpowered >>>> VPS instance or shared-hosting box >>>> >>>> Anyways, just a collection of my random thoughts & ramblings. >>>> >>>> -tim >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>
Re: [Lynx-dev] Lynx and Wordpress?
Wordpress admin works fine with lynx. I use it all the time. There are a couple of parts that don’t work well but they aren’t needed all that often. Tom Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 2, 2023, at 16:00, Tim Chase wrote: > > >> >> dreamhost provides the WordPress tool, but they also just provide >> regular ftp for uploading. > > Is there something in particular that WordPress offers over your > current setup? > > It has some nice web-facing tools for administering the site and > tracking drafts, but it sounds like you already have a process that > works for you, and if the admin interface doesn't work in Lynx, > then I'd strongly bias toward a different web solution. > > The `wp-cli` tool is pretty complex and tends to assume a strong > pre-existing working knowledge of WordPress. So even if you go > that route, there's a large learning curve ahead that way. > >> desire a tool, and since WordPress is offered, thought I would ask. > > I don't want to deter you from tackling the adventure since there's > certainly a lot of *power* with WordPress, and I'm always an advocate > for learning new skills. But if they're not directly solving a > problem you have, and you don't aspire to get into WordPress > development more full-time (or just to do it because you want to), > then I'd suggest there are easier ways to the same/similar end > without sparring with Wordpress. > >> any easy creation tool that is not WordPress then? > > If you want to have templates that apply across the site, using a > static site generator can make that easier for you. It allows you > to type up your posts (whether in raw HTML which it sounds like > you're comfortable with, or using Markdown which can be a little > easier for some folks), and then the SSG churns across all those > input post files and creates an output directory you can upload as > you're already familiar with. And most come with a selection of > templates (plus additional ones you can download) so you can change > the whole site by just changing templates and telling the SSG to > regenerate the site. I've done this more than once (changing > templates) and it's usually a matter of changing one line of > configuration to point to the new theme, and then letting it > regenerate (depending on the number of pages, this is a couple > seconds or maybe a minute) > > -tim > > > > > >
Re: [Lynx-dev] Lynx and Wordpress?
I have 4 sites that I work on all in Wordpress. The accessibility of editing them depends on what plugins you use. She classic editor is very easy to use and in many cases I simply use lynx and if it is a large Chang pull it to vim and then save it back to lynx press tehe save button on the page and press on. For things that need to be pretty I ask my wife for help as colors and image placement have little meaning for me. Tom Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 1, 2023, at 18:51, Karen Lewellen wrote: > > Hi there, > I agree with ease, my personal site is in html, so when I have to change > things like a phone number, I can just use an editor. > However, this site will be new. > dreamhost provides the WordPress tool, but they also just provide regular ftp > for uploading. > If I could find someone willing to do the work, I would just pay them > within, reason. > Everything will be local, as in in my dream host workspace. just desire a > tool, and since WordPress is offered, thought I would ask. > Keeping in mind that I use shellworld, although I do have links for DOS on my > computer, any easy creation tool that is not WordPress then? > Karen > > > >> On Sat, 31 Dec 2022, Tim Chase wrote: >> >>> On 2022-12-30 23:42, Karen Lewellen wrote: >>> While I generally have few issues accessing WordPress created >>> sites, at least the one I have encountered, that does not necessarily >>> translate to the tool itself. >> >> If I understand correctly, I believe you're talking about the >> accessibility of the admin/authoring portions of Wordpress which >> is independent of the accessibility of the resulting site published >> using Wordpress. >> >>> Anyone successfully use WordPress with Lynx? >> >> It's been a while since I've played with an install. If the >> admin/authoring panel isn't accessible from lynx (which might well >> be the case since there was a major shift a while back in the >> content-editor widget, changing from a more straightforward text >> entry box to a rich-edit box), there's "wp-cli" (https://wp-cli.org/) >> utility which lets you manage just about every aspect of a Wordpress >> install from the command-line, including posting and comment >> management. >> >> That said, unless I *have* to use Wordpress for something, I generally >> prefer using a static site generator (SSG) to maintain my personal >> sites. I use a combination of Nikola (https://getnikola.com/) and >> a custom SSG that I wrote for my own uses depending on which site. >> But there are lots of others like Hugo or Jekyll. Big advantages >> include: >> >> - everything is local >> >> - the generation process just creates an "output/" folder that you >> can copy up to your server however you want (whether FTP, rsync, >> scp, or some web GUI) >> >> - there's nothing dynamic on the server that could be exploited/hacked >> since it's all just text files >> >> - the resulting pages are FAST even on a ridiculously underpowered >> VPS instance or shared-hosting box >> >> Anyways, just a collection of my random thoughts & ramblings. >> >> -tim >> >> >> >> >> >
Re: [Lynx-dev] reading code section
My appologies to all. It appears it is showing the code sections correctly. It is a section from a book and the way it is written it makes it look like you are missing things. Such as use the following command to run this program and then it has multiple blank lines (3 to 4) and then a command that is not actually shown as a console command i.e no prompt shown so it looks like it is the answer to the run code not the command to run it. Maybe ok visually but a bit confusing when using braille. Tom On Sat, 21 Nov 2020, Halaasz Saandor via Lynx-dev wrote: 2020/11/21 12:11 ... Tom Masterson: This is al a good discussion but it does not answer my question. For some pages I can modify the html and make it readable, however there a number of sites out in the wild that use the ... to show coding. I would like to be able to read that code without having to download and reformat the pages. So is it possible to have lynx read those segments or do I need to modify lynx itself? What webpage? I try something bracketed by ... and with no trouble clearly see it in Lynx. Furthermore, I tryed also an unknown entity and found that Lynx simply ignored that. Therefore, in your case it is not ignored, but turned into something else. If it were
Re: [Lynx-dev] reading code section
Good Morning This is al a good discussion but it does not answer my question. For some pages I can modify the html and make it readable, however there a number of sites out in the wild that use the ... to show coding. I would like to be able to read that code without having to download and reformat the pages. So is it possible to have lynx read those segments or do I need to modify lynx itself? Tom On Sat, 21 Nov 2020, Thorsten Glaser wrote: Jude DaShiell dixit: That single font may well be an important accessibility feature of lynx; It *so* is! I read all my fanfiction in lynx because it runs in xterm, where I have full control over the font (and size) used. Also other ebooks. Paul Gilmartin dixit: Perhaps more important, and not effectively a nop for lynx, it preserves whitespace, copyint it from the HTML source to the rendered page. No, only does that, doesn’t, nor . bye, //mirabilos -- [00:02] gecko: benutzt du emacs ? [00:03] nö [00:03] nur n normalen mac [00:04] argl [00:04] ne den editor -- Vutral und gecko2 in #deutsch (NB: Editor? Betriebssystem.) ___ Lynx-dev mailing list Lynx-dev@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lynx-dev ___ Lynx-dev mailing list Lynx-dev@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lynx-dev
[Lynx-dev] reading code section
I am working with some html files that have a section. Is there a way to have lynx display tese areas? Currently even though I know they are there and can see them looking at the source it just shows blanks in the browser. Thanks Tom ___ Lynx-dev mailing list Lynx-dev@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lynx-dev
Re: [Lynx-dev] problems using google
I haven’t tried that as i use alpine. But it let’s m Get to a lo o pages tha can’ be used otherwise. Tom Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 15, 2019, at 10:23, Karen Lewellen wrote: > > Tom, > can you reach basic html gmail with that user agent command? > I am trying to figure out how to test all that smiles. > > > >> On Fri, 15 Nov 2019, Tom Masterson wrote: >> >> Another option is to use the -useragent command line switch. This brings >> back the links as well as many other things. The line I use is: >> >> lynx -useragent="mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS x 10_8_0) >> AppleWebKit/537.1 (KHTML like Gecko) Chrome/21.0.1180.79 Safari/527.1 >> >> Tom >>> On Fri, 15 Nov 2019, Ian Collier wrote: >>> >>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 08:21:23AM +0100, Dick Sterkenburg wrote: >>> > what is the meanig of the ctrl-v option, why does it bring the links > >>> > back? >>> >>> I do not know the full details about what this does, but the help in >>> lynx.cfg for this option states: >>> >>> If TAGSOUP is set, Lynx uses the "Tag Soup DTD" rather than "SortaSGML". >>> The two approaches differ by the style of error detection and recovery. >>> Tag Soup DTD allows for improperly nested tags; SortaSGML is stricter. >>> >>> The issue is that Lynx thinks the tags in Google search results are >>> improperly nested, and therefore from the above description "Tag Soup" >>> is going to display them better than the strict mode. >>> >>> In fact, they are not improperly nested according to current standards. >>> The issue is that the tag which links the results contains two >>> tags containing, respectively, the title of the link and its URL. >>> >>> In HTML prior to 5, elements were not allowed to contain block >>> elements such as , and Lynx was written to this standard. >>> However, in HTML 5, the content model of the tag is "transparent" >>> which means it is allowed to contain whatever the parent element may >>> contain. In most cases, this means that tags are now allowed >>> to contain tags. >>> >>> So this is something that the Lynx developer could consider fixing, >>> though I'm not sure how involved that would be. >>> >>> imc >>> >>> ___ >>> Lynx-dev mailing list >>> Lynx-dev@nongnu.org >>> https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lynx-dev >> >> ___ >> Lynx-dev mailing list >> Lynx-dev@nongnu.org >> https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lynx-dev >> >> ___ Lynx-dev mailing list Lynx-dev@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lynx-dev
Re: [Lynx-dev] problems using google
Another option is to use the -useragent command line switch. This brings back the links as well as many other things. The line I use is: lynx -useragent="mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS x 10_8_0) AppleWebKit/537.1 (KHTML like Gecko) Chrome/21.0.1180.79 Safari/527.1 Tom On Fri, 15 Nov 2019, Ian Collier wrote: On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 08:21:23AM +0100, Dick Sterkenburg wrote: what is the meanig of the ctrl-v option, why does it bring the links back? I do not know the full details about what this does, but the help in lynx.cfg for this option states: If TAGSOUP is set, Lynx uses the "Tag Soup DTD" rather than "SortaSGML". The two approaches differ by the style of error detection and recovery. Tag Soup DTD allows for improperly nested tags; SortaSGML is stricter. The issue is that Lynx thinks the tags in Google search results are improperly nested, and therefore from the above description "Tag Soup" is going to display them better than the strict mode. In fact, they are not improperly nested according to current standards. The issue is that the tag which links the results contains two tags containing, respectively, the title of the link and its URL. In HTML prior to 5, elements were not allowed to contain block elements such as , and Lynx was written to this standard. However, in HTML 5, the content model of the tag is "transparent" which means it is allowed to contain whatever the parent element may contain. In most cases, this means that tags are now allowed to contain tags. So this is something that the Lynx developer could consider fixing, though I'm not sure how involved that would be. imc ___ Lynx-dev mailing list Lynx-dev@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lynx-dev ___ Lynx-dev mailing list Lynx-dev@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lynx-dev
Re: [Lynx-dev] lynx no longer works with gmail
I used Karen’s link and it worked fine. However I did not key it in just opened from the email in alpine. Tom Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 11, 2019, at 16:20, Jude DaShiell wrote: > > I keyed in Karen's link and got something like 1] 4500 and trying to hit > enter on 1] I got lynx stopped and returned to the shell prompt. Maybe > mouse can access using that url and if so, I suspect different gmail > configurations exist for different countries and America as well as other > countries are more javascript-centric than is the case with Canada. > > > > > -- > > > ___ > Lynx-dev mailing list > Lynx-dev@nongnu.org > https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lynx-dev ___ Lynx-dev mailing list Lynx-dev@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lynx-dev
[Lynx-dev] Strange behavior
I am using Ubuntu 18.04 (Bionic Beaver) and among other things I am running brltty as I am blind. When running lynx under a virtual console (say tty3) if I switch to another console using ctrl-alt-function (ctrl-alt-f4) and then switch back to lynx the computer has closed lynx. The only thing I have been able to find is if I do a -trace the trace file shows a GETCH0 got 0x just before lynx closed down. It appears to be a normal shutdown. This occurs with the packaged build of 2.8.9dev.16 or a built version of 2.9.0dev.1. I have not seen this in previous versions of Ubuntu or other distros. Any ideas where I should look to figure out why this is happening? Thanks Tom ___ Lynx-dev mailing list Lynx-dev@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lynx-dev
