Re: [Lynx-dev] Lynx and Wordpress?
Oh I suppose you were referring to the slight edits I do. The site itself that I touch up when needful, was created by a professional. Only reason why I am asking about WordPress is because dreamhost makes the tool available, on their platform, where the new site will be located. Otherwise I am finding someone else to create the new site, as I did my own. On Tue, 3 Jan 2023, Tim Chase wrote: dreamhost provides the WordPress tool, but they also just provide regular ftp for uploading. Is there something in particular that WordPress offers over your current setup? It has some nice web-facing tools for administering the site and tracking drafts, but it sounds like you already have a process that works for you, and if the admin interface doesn't work in Lynx, then I'd strongly bias toward a different web solution. The `wp-cli` tool is pretty complex and tends to assume a strong pre-existing working knowledge of WordPress. So even if you go that route, there's a large learning curve ahead that way. desire a tool, and since WordPress is offered, thought I would ask. I don't want to deter you from tackling the adventure since there's certainly a lot of *power* with WordPress, and I'm always an advocate for learning new skills. But if they're not directly solving a problem you have, and you don't aspire to get into WordPress development more full-time (or just to do it because you want to), then I'd suggest there are easier ways to the same/similar end without sparring with Wordpress. any easy creation tool that is not WordPress then? If you want to have templates that apply across the site, using a static site generator can make that easier for you. It allows you to type up your posts (whether in raw HTML which it sounds like you're comfortable with, or using Markdown which can be a little easier for some folks), and then the SSG churns across all those input post files and creates an output directory you can upload as you're already familiar with. And most come with a selection of templates (plus additional ones you can download) so you can change the whole site by just changing templates and telling the SSG to regenerate the site. I've done this more than once (changing templates) and it's usually a matter of changing one line of configuration to point to the new theme, and then letting it regenerate (depending on the number of pages, this is a couple seconds or maybe a minute) -tim
Re: [Lynx-dev] Lynx and Wordpress?
There is no current setup as the site does not exist yet. On Tue, 3 Jan 2023, Tim Chase wrote: dreamhost provides the WordPress tool, but they also just provide regular ftp for uploading. Is there something in particular that WordPress offers over your current setup? It has some nice web-facing tools for administering the site and tracking drafts, but it sounds like you already have a process that works for you, and if the admin interface doesn't work in Lynx, then I'd strongly bias toward a different web solution. The `wp-cli` tool is pretty complex and tends to assume a strong pre-existing working knowledge of WordPress. So even if you go that route, there's a large learning curve ahead that way. desire a tool, and since WordPress is offered, thought I would ask. I don't want to deter you from tackling the adventure since there's certainly a lot of *power* with WordPress, and I'm always an advocate for learning new skills. But if they're not directly solving a problem you have, and you don't aspire to get into WordPress development more full-time (or just to do it because you want to), then I'd suggest there are easier ways to the same/similar end without sparring with Wordpress. any easy creation tool that is not WordPress then? If you want to have templates that apply across the site, using a static site generator can make that easier for you. It allows you to type up your posts (whether in raw HTML which it sounds like you're comfortable with, or using Markdown which can be a little easier for some folks), and then the SSG churns across all those input post files and creates an output directory you can upload as you're already familiar with. And most come with a selection of templates (plus additional ones you can download) so you can change the whole site by just changing templates and telling the SSG to regenerate the site. I've done this more than once (changing templates) and it's usually a matter of changing one line of configuration to point to the new theme, and then letting it regenerate (depending on the number of pages, this is a couple seconds or maybe a minute) -tim
Re: [Lynx-dev] Lynx and Wordpress?
I believe it is part of wordpress but I will have to look when I get to my computer which won’t be till later tonight or tomorrow morning. Tom Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 2, 2023, at 16:48, Karen Lewellen wrote: > > Hi Tom, > To insure I am following, there is a plug in called classic editor? > I may be able to allow dreamhost the chance to create a test environment > for me, they did offer. > Granted they use an older edition of lynx, but I do appreciate what you > provide here. > Karen > > > >> On Sun, 1 Jan 2023, Tom Masterson wrote: >> >> I have 4 sites that I work on all in Wordpress. The accessibility of >> editing them depends on what plugins you use. She classic editor is very >> easy to use and in many cases I simply use lynx and if it is a large Chang >> pull it to vim and then save it back to lynx press tehe save button on the >> page and press on. For things that need to be pretty I ask my wife for help >> as colors and image placement have little meaning for me. >> >> Tom >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> On Jan 1, 2023, at 18:51, Karen Lewellen wrote: >>> >>> Hi there, >>> I agree with ease, my personal site is in html, so when I have to change >>> things like a phone number, I can just use an editor. >>> However, this site will be new. >>> dreamhost provides the WordPress tool, but they also just provide regular >>> ftp for uploading. >>> If I could find someone willing to do the work, I would just pay them >>> within, reason. >>> Everything will be local, as in in my dream host workspace. just desire a >>> tool, and since WordPress is offered, thought I would ask. >>> Keeping in mind that I use shellworld, although I do have links for DOS on >>> my computer, any easy creation tool that is not WordPress then? >>> Karen >>> >>> >>> On Sat, 31 Dec 2022, Tim Chase wrote: > On 2022-12-30 23:42, Karen Lewellen wrote: > While I generally have few issues accessing WordPress created > sites, at least the one I have encountered, that does not necessarily > translate to the tool itself. If I understand correctly, I believe you're talking about the accessibility of the admin/authoring portions of Wordpress which is independent of the accessibility of the resulting site published using Wordpress. > Anyone successfully use WordPress with Lynx? It's been a while since I've played with an install. If the admin/authoring panel isn't accessible from lynx (which might well be the case since there was a major shift a while back in the content-editor widget, changing from a more straightforward text entry box to a rich-edit box), there's "wp-cli" (https://wp-cli.org/) utility which lets you manage just about every aspect of a Wordpress install from the command-line, including posting and comment management. That said, unless I *have* to use Wordpress for something, I generally prefer using a static site generator (SSG) to maintain my personal sites. I use a combination of Nikola (https://getnikola.com/) and a custom SSG that I wrote for my own uses depending on which site. But there are lots of others like Hugo or Jekyll. Big advantages include: - everything is local - the generation process just creates an "output/" folder that you can copy up to your server however you want (whether FTP, rsync, scp, or some web GUI) - there's nothing dynamic on the server that could be exploited/hacked since it's all just text files - the resulting pages are FAST even on a ridiculously underpowered VPS instance or shared-hosting box Anyways, just a collection of my random thoughts & ramblings. -tim >>>
Re: [Lynx-dev] Lynx and Wordpress?
Hi Tom, To insure I am following, there is a plug in called classic editor? I may be able to allow dreamhost the chance to create a test environment for me, they did offer. Granted they use an older edition of lynx, but I do appreciate what you provide here. Karen On Sun, 1 Jan 2023, Tom Masterson wrote: I have 4 sites that I work on all in Wordpress. The accessibility of editing them depends on what plugins you use. She classic editor is very easy to use and in many cases I simply use lynx and if it is a large Chang pull it to vim and then save it back to lynx press tehe save button on the page and press on. For things that need to be pretty I ask my wife for help as colors and image placement have little meaning for me. Tom Sent from my iPhone On Jan 1, 2023, at 18:51, Karen Lewellen wrote: Hi there, I agree with ease, my personal site is in html, so when I have to change things like a phone number, I can just use an editor. However, this site will be new. dreamhost provides the WordPress tool, but they also just provide regular ftp for uploading. If I could find someone willing to do the work, I would just pay them within, reason. Everything will be local, as in in my dream host workspace. just desire a tool, and since WordPress is offered, thought I would ask. Keeping in mind that I use shellworld, although I do have links for DOS on my computer, any easy creation tool that is not WordPress then? Karen On Sat, 31 Dec 2022, Tim Chase wrote: On 2022-12-30 23:42, Karen Lewellen wrote: While I generally have few issues accessing WordPress created sites, at least the one I have encountered, that does not necessarily translate to the tool itself. If I understand correctly, I believe you're talking about the accessibility of the admin/authoring portions of Wordpress which is independent of the accessibility of the resulting site published using Wordpress. Anyone successfully use WordPress with Lynx? It's been a while since I've played with an install. If the admin/authoring panel isn't accessible from lynx (which might well be the case since there was a major shift a while back in the content-editor widget, changing from a more straightforward text entry box to a rich-edit box), there's "wp-cli" (https://wp-cli.org/) utility which lets you manage just about every aspect of a Wordpress install from the command-line, including posting and comment management. That said, unless I *have* to use Wordpress for something, I generally prefer using a static site generator (SSG) to maintain my personal sites. I use a combination of Nikola (https://getnikola.com/) and a custom SSG that I wrote for my own uses depending on which site. But there are lots of others like Hugo or Jekyll. Big advantages include: - everything is local - the generation process just creates an "output/" folder that you can copy up to your server however you want (whether FTP, rsync, scp, or some web GUI) - there's nothing dynamic on the server that could be exploited/hacked since it's all just text files - the resulting pages are FAST even on a ridiculously underpowered VPS instance or shared-hosting box Anyways, just a collection of my random thoughts & ramblings. -tim
Re: [Lynx-dev] Lynx and Wordpress?
Wordpress admin works fine with lynx. I use it all the time. There are a couple of parts that don’t work well but they aren’t needed all that often. Tom Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 2, 2023, at 16:00, Tim Chase wrote: > > >> >> dreamhost provides the WordPress tool, but they also just provide >> regular ftp for uploading. > > Is there something in particular that WordPress offers over your > current setup? > > It has some nice web-facing tools for administering the site and > tracking drafts, but it sounds like you already have a process that > works for you, and if the admin interface doesn't work in Lynx, > then I'd strongly bias toward a different web solution. > > The `wp-cli` tool is pretty complex and tends to assume a strong > pre-existing working knowledge of WordPress. So even if you go > that route, there's a large learning curve ahead that way. > >> desire a tool, and since WordPress is offered, thought I would ask. > > I don't want to deter you from tackling the adventure since there's > certainly a lot of *power* with WordPress, and I'm always an advocate > for learning new skills. But if they're not directly solving a > problem you have, and you don't aspire to get into WordPress > development more full-time (or just to do it because you want to), > then I'd suggest there are easier ways to the same/similar end > without sparring with Wordpress. > >> any easy creation tool that is not WordPress then? > > If you want to have templates that apply across the site, using a > static site generator can make that easier for you. It allows you > to type up your posts (whether in raw HTML which it sounds like > you're comfortable with, or using Markdown which can be a little > easier for some folks), and then the SSG churns across all those > input post files and creates an output directory you can upload as > you're already familiar with. And most come with a selection of > templates (plus additional ones you can download) so you can change > the whole site by just changing templates and telling the SSG to > regenerate the site. I've done this more than once (changing > templates) and it's usually a matter of changing one line of > configuration to point to the new theme, and then letting it > regenerate (depending on the number of pages, this is a couple > seconds or maybe a minute) > > -tim > > > > > >
Re: [Lynx-dev] Lynx and Wordpress?
> dreamhost provides the WordPress tool, but they also just provide > regular ftp for uploading. Is there something in particular that WordPress offers over your current setup? It has some nice web-facing tools for administering the site and tracking drafts, but it sounds like you already have a process that works for you, and if the admin interface doesn't work in Lynx, then I'd strongly bias toward a different web solution. The `wp-cli` tool is pretty complex and tends to assume a strong pre-existing working knowledge of WordPress. So even if you go that route, there's a large learning curve ahead that way. > desire a tool, and since WordPress is offered, thought I would ask. I don't want to deter you from tackling the adventure since there's certainly a lot of *power* with WordPress, and I'm always an advocate for learning new skills. But if they're not directly solving a problem you have, and you don't aspire to get into WordPress development more full-time (or just to do it because you want to), then I'd suggest there are easier ways to the same/similar end without sparring with Wordpress. > any easy creation tool that is not WordPress then? If you want to have templates that apply across the site, using a static site generator can make that easier for you. It allows you to type up your posts (whether in raw HTML which it sounds like you're comfortable with, or using Markdown which can be a little easier for some folks), and then the SSG churns across all those input post files and creates an output directory you can upload as you're already familiar with. And most come with a selection of templates (plus additional ones you can download) so you can change the whole site by just changing templates and telling the SSG to regenerate the site. I've done this more than once (changing templates) and it's usually a matter of changing one line of configuration to point to the new theme, and then letting it regenerate (depending on the number of pages, this is a couple seconds or maybe a minute) -tim
Re: [Lynx-dev] Lynx and Wordpress?
I have 4 sites that I work on all in Wordpress. The accessibility of editing them depends on what plugins you use. She classic editor is very easy to use and in many cases I simply use lynx and if it is a large Chang pull it to vim and then save it back to lynx press tehe save button on the page and press on. For things that need to be pretty I ask my wife for help as colors and image placement have little meaning for me. Tom Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 1, 2023, at 18:51, Karen Lewellen wrote: > > Hi there, > I agree with ease, my personal site is in html, so when I have to change > things like a phone number, I can just use an editor. > However, this site will be new. > dreamhost provides the WordPress tool, but they also just provide regular ftp > for uploading. > If I could find someone willing to do the work, I would just pay them > within, reason. > Everything will be local, as in in my dream host workspace. just desire a > tool, and since WordPress is offered, thought I would ask. > Keeping in mind that I use shellworld, although I do have links for DOS on my > computer, any easy creation tool that is not WordPress then? > Karen > > > >> On Sat, 31 Dec 2022, Tim Chase wrote: >> >>> On 2022-12-30 23:42, Karen Lewellen wrote: >>> While I generally have few issues accessing WordPress created >>> sites, at least the one I have encountered, that does not necessarily >>> translate to the tool itself. >> >> If I understand correctly, I believe you're talking about the >> accessibility of the admin/authoring portions of Wordpress which >> is independent of the accessibility of the resulting site published >> using Wordpress. >> >>> Anyone successfully use WordPress with Lynx? >> >> It's been a while since I've played with an install. If the >> admin/authoring panel isn't accessible from lynx (which might well >> be the case since there was a major shift a while back in the >> content-editor widget, changing from a more straightforward text >> entry box to a rich-edit box), there's "wp-cli" (https://wp-cli.org/) >> utility which lets you manage just about every aspect of a Wordpress >> install from the command-line, including posting and comment >> management. >> >> That said, unless I *have* to use Wordpress for something, I generally >> prefer using a static site generator (SSG) to maintain my personal >> sites. I use a combination of Nikola (https://getnikola.com/) and >> a custom SSG that I wrote for my own uses depending on which site. >> But there are lots of others like Hugo or Jekyll. Big advantages >> include: >> >> - everything is local >> >> - the generation process just creates an "output/" folder that you >> can copy up to your server however you want (whether FTP, rsync, >> scp, or some web GUI) >> >> - there's nothing dynamic on the server that could be exploited/hacked >> since it's all just text files >> >> - the resulting pages are FAST even on a ridiculously underpowered >> VPS instance or shared-hosting box >> >> Anyways, just a collection of my random thoughts & ramblings. >> >> -tim >> >> >> >> >> >
Re: [Lynx-dev] Lynx and Wordpress?
Hi there, I agree with ease, my personal site is in html, so when I have to change things like a phone number, I can just use an editor. However, this site will be new. dreamhost provides the WordPress tool, but they also just provide regular ftp for uploading. If I could find someone willing to do the work, I would just pay them within, reason. Everything will be local, as in in my dream host workspace. just desire a tool, and since WordPress is offered, thought I would ask. Keeping in mind that I use shellworld, although I do have links for DOS on my computer, any easy creation tool that is not WordPress then? Karen On Sat, 31 Dec 2022, Tim Chase wrote: On 2022-12-30 23:42, Karen Lewellen wrote: While I generally have few issues accessing WordPress created sites, at least the one I have encountered, that does not necessarily translate to the tool itself. If I understand correctly, I believe you're talking about the accessibility of the admin/authoring portions of Wordpress which is independent of the accessibility of the resulting site published using Wordpress. Anyone successfully use WordPress with Lynx? It's been a while since I've played with an install. If the admin/authoring panel isn't accessible from lynx (which might well be the case since there was a major shift a while back in the content-editor widget, changing from a more straightforward text entry box to a rich-edit box), there's "wp-cli" (https://wp-cli.org/) utility which lets you manage just about every aspect of a Wordpress install from the command-line, including posting and comment management. That said, unless I *have* to use Wordpress for something, I generally prefer using a static site generator (SSG) to maintain my personal sites. I use a combination of Nikola (https://getnikola.com/) and a custom SSG that I wrote for my own uses depending on which site. But there are lots of others like Hugo or Jekyll. Big advantages include: - everything is local - the generation process just creates an "output/" folder that you can copy up to your server however you want (whether FTP, rsync, scp, or some web GUI) - there's nothing dynamic on the server that could be exploited/hacked since it's all just text files - the resulting pages are FAST even on a ridiculously underpowered VPS instance or shared-hosting box Anyways, just a collection of my random thoughts & ramblings. -tim
Re: [Lynx-dev] Lynx and Wordpress?
Hi Chime, I respect your experience, but that was not my question. One reason why I point this out is that, for example, bold blind beauty uses WordPress. And their efforts work perfectly, at least the elements I seek, with lynx. After all, if the videos you are getting are on YouTube, then YouTube itself adds complexities, and lack of inclusion. Best, Karen On Fri, 30 Dec 2022, Chime Hart wrote: Well Karen, almost all of the time there is a Broadcasting site where they post airchecks. In many cases I need to run an external in LYNX to grab a youtube video. In general I would say word press sites are messy. Chime
Re: [Lynx-dev] Lynx and Wordpress?
On 2022-12-30 23:42, Karen Lewellen wrote: > While I generally have few issues accessing WordPress created > sites, at least the one I have encountered, that does not necessarily > translate to the tool itself. If I understand correctly, I believe you're talking about the accessibility of the admin/authoring portions of Wordpress which is independent of the accessibility of the resulting site published using Wordpress. > Anyone successfully use WordPress with Lynx? It's been a while since I've played with an install. If the admin/authoring panel isn't accessible from lynx (which might well be the case since there was a major shift a while back in the content-editor widget, changing from a more straightforward text entry box to a rich-edit box), there's "wp-cli" (https://wp-cli.org/) utility which lets you manage just about every aspect of a Wordpress install from the command-line, including posting and comment management. That said, unless I *have* to use Wordpress for something, I generally prefer using a static site generator (SSG) to maintain my personal sites. I use a combination of Nikola (https://getnikola.com/) and a custom SSG that I wrote for my own uses depending on which site. But there are lots of others like Hugo or Jekyll. Big advantages include: - everything is local - the generation process just creates an "output/" folder that you can copy up to your server however you want (whether FTP, rsync, scp, or some web GUI) - there's nothing dynamic on the server that could be exploited/hacked since it's all just text files - the resulting pages are FAST even on a ridiculously underpowered VPS instance or shared-hosting box Anyways, just a collection of my random thoughts & ramblings. -tim
Re: [Lynx-dev] Lynx and Wordpress?
Well Karen, almost all of the time there is a Broadcasting site where they post airchecks. In many cases I need to run an external in LYNX to grab a youtube video. In general I would say word press sites are messy. Chime
[Lynx-dev] Lynx and Wordpress?
Hi all, While I generally have few issues accessing WordPress created sites, at least the one I have encountered, that does not necessarily translate to the tool itself. Anyone successfully use WordPress with Lynx? Thanks, Karen
