Re: [Lynx-dev] directv blocking lynx
On Sun, Jul 07, 2024 at 03:54:26PM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote: > Is there a limit to how long a user agent string can be in lynx? > Kare There is probably a limit, but I haven't run into it if there is. I have shell aliases that each start lynx with a different useragent, and two of them are 140 characters long. Those are taken from Firefox on Android and Firefox on IOS. Another, from Safari on IOS, is 138 characters, and one from Chrome on Android is 137 characters. Chuck
Re: [Lynx-dev] directv blocking lynx
Is there a limit to how long a user agent string can be in lynx? Kare On Sun, 7 Jul 2024, Chuck Martin via Lynx-dev wrote: On Sat, Jul 06, 2024 at 12:31:35PM -0700, Chime Hart wrote: Well, Chuck-and-All, I am subscribed to press advisories from NATO, but this morning's item you had to visit their site to read or download a pdf. More-and-more we see L I N K S works, while L Y N X has a 403 error, even after fooling with a user-agent http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/events_226992.htm Chime All three of the useragents I provided in my previous reply work for that URL, although the regular Firefox on Linux desktop useragent doesn't, and neither does the default. I didn't try any of my others. Chuck
Re: [Lynx-dev] directv blocking lynx
Hi Chime, The only way you might have lost an FCC complaint around that issue is if the person at the FCC itself made an error. As in, please be blind as I define the term and use what i say you should use since I write the definition of a good blind person for the FCC. WcAG rules are clear, support current, not to be confused with the nonexistent term modern user tools. Lynx is still under development, is more current than l i n k S. Someone needs to remind the disability rights office that its the Ada, not the Americans blind as we define it act. Karen On Fri, 5 Jul 2024, Chime Hart wrote: Well Jude, for me it just hangs, but it does work in L I N K S. While its great they have accessibility in these devices, they say they will never have it in AT U-Verse, as they will never build another box. I know this as I filed an FCC complaint. Chime
Re: [Lynx-dev] directv blocking lynx
Actually, I Wonder if this should be a feature request? The ability to use different user agents upon request? certainly I understand, and respect that you can turn the agent on and off. Still, might it not add some flexibility being able to use more than one agent string? Karen
Re: [Lynx-dev] directv blocking lynx
On Sat, Jul 06, 2024 at 12:31:35PM -0700, Chime Hart wrote: > Well, Chuck-and-All, I am subscribed to press advisories from NATO, but this > morning's item you had to visit their site to read or download a pdf. > More-and-more we see L I N K S works, while L Y N X has a 403 error, even > after fooling with a user-agent > http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/events_226992.htm > Chime Since I hadn't updated my regular Firefox on Linux useragent string in my lynx alias in awhile, I just now updated it to match my currently installed Firefox, and now it also worked for this URL, and also the DirectTV one you provided in your previous message. My "go to" alias to use in such cases, though is the one that tells them what I think of people who block browsers based on useragent, in the off-chance that they look through their logs. It may not change their behavior, but it does let them know what I think of that deplorable behavior. Chuck
Re: [Lynx-dev] directv blocking lynx
On Sat, Jul 06, 2024 at 12:31:35PM -0700, Chime Hart wrote: > Well, Chuck-and-All, I am subscribed to press advisories from NATO, but this > morning's item you had to visit their site to read or download a pdf. > More-and-more we see L I N K S works, while L Y N X has a 403 error, even > after fooling with a user-agent > http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/events_226992.htm > Chime All three of the useragents I provided in my previous reply work for that URL, although the regular Firefox on Linux desktop useragent doesn't, and neither does the default. I didn't try any of my others. Chuck
Re: [Lynx-dev] directv blocking lynx
Chime Hart wrote in : |Well, Chuck-and-All, I am subscribed to press advisories from NATO, \ |but this |morning's item you had to visit their site to read or download a pdf. |More-and-more we see L I N K S works, while L Y N X has a 403 error, \ |even after |fooling with a user-agent |http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/events_226992.htm Liars have easy access there. |Chime | --End of --steffen | |Der Kragenbaer,The moon bear, |der holt sich munter he cheerfully and one by one |einen nach dem anderen runter wa.ks himself off |(By Robert Gernhardt)
Re: [Lynx-dev] directv blocking lynx
Well, Chuck-and-All, I am subscribed to press advisories from NATO, but this morning's item you had to visit their site to read or download a pdf. More-and-more we see L I N K S works, while L Y N X has a 403 error, even after fooling with a user-agent http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/events_226992.htm Chime
Re: [Lynx-dev] directv blocking lynx
Sorry, I erroneously sent a private reply, since I don't reply often enough to mailing lists to remember that "list reply" in mutt is different than "reply", and I thought others might be interested in my reply, so I'm reposting it here. On Fri, Jul 05, 2024 at 01:11:36PM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: > they're also blocking elinks and w3m. Thanks for the heads up on links > though. It depends on the useragent. I, too, see it hang if I don't change the useragent string, but I have a number of aliases for lynx that present different useragent strings. A Firefox useragent also hangs, an Internet Explorer useragent gets a page that says my browser isn't supported, but here are a few that get the page with lynx: Firefox on Android: lynx -useragent="Mozilla/5.0 (Android 7.0; Mobile; rv:54.0) Gecko/54.0 Firefox/54.0" The long ago discontinued Sidekick, from T-Mobile: lynx -useragent="Mozilla/5.0 (Danger hiptop 5.0; U; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050920" Blackberry: lynx -useragent="Mozilla/5.0 (BB10; Kbd) AppleWebKit/537.35+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/10.3.3.2205 Mobile Safari/537.35+" I also got it to load using useragents for Chrome on Android, Firefox on IOS, and Safari on IOS, but those useragent strings are much longer, and I didn't feel like posting them here, either broken into multiple lines, or joined into one really long line, but they work. Interestingly, I have three different Googlebot useragents I found somewhere, which all hung, but I was successful with a useragent that was nothing but a nasty message about what kind of despicable people block browsers based on useragent, but I won't post that one here. Chuck
Re: [Lynx-dev] directv blocking lynx
they're also blocking elinks and w3m. Thanks for the heads up on links though. -- Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." Ed Howdershelt 1940. On Fri, 5 Jul 2024, Chime Hart wrote: > Well Jude, for me it just hangs, but it does work in L I N K S. While its > great they have accessibility in these devices, they say they will never have > it in AT U-Verse, as they will never build another box. I know this as I > filed an FCC complaint. > Chime > > >
Re: [Lynx-dev] directv blocking lynx
Well Name, as DirectTV-and-U-Verse are part of the same family, I was just pointing out how their newer platforms have it. Chime
Re: [Lynx-dev] directv blocking lynx
> they say they will never have it in > AT U-Verse, as they will never build another box. I know this as I filed an > FCC complaint. Can you please elaborate or point out some document that explains this more? For instance, what all websites will be affected by that and how would one know if this is the problem. Thanks, Robin On Fri, Jul 5, 2024 at 9:57 AM Chime Hart wrote: > > Well Jude, for me it just hangs, but it does work in L I N K S. While its > great > they have accessibility in these devices, they say they will never have it in > AT U-Verse, as they will never build another box. I know this as I filed an > FCC complaint. > Chime > >
Re: [Lynx-dev] directv blocking lynx
Well Jude, for me it just hangs, but it does work in L I N K S. While its great they have accessibility in these devices, they say they will never have it in AT U-Verse, as they will never build another box. I know this as I filed an FCC complaint. Chime
[Lynx-dev] directv blocking lynx
https://www.directv.com/support/article/74707 -- Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." Ed Howdershelt 1940.
