Re: Documentation of tex2lyx

[Lavaud Michel]

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes a écrit :

Enrico Forestieri for...@lyx.org writes:
  

And surely introduce many others. If the only problem is shipping an
html version of the man pages the most unintrusive and fool proof
way is using man2html. 



The question is precisely to know whether we want to ship an html page.
Our documentation is in LyX format, after all.
  
From a point of view of a plain user : it would look neater and more 
logical to have it in LyX format. However, from a practical point of 
view, since it seems to be quite a long job, the html version obtained 
along Enrico's method, together with an additional line in the Help menu 
pointing to it would be perfect too (in my opinion).


Best wishes,
Michel

Re: Translation questions about colors settings for math macros

[Vincent van Ravesteijn]

Helge Hafting schreef:
The color settings have several settings for math macros, that I don't 
understand.


I have no idea what these two are, so I cannot translate:
math macro blended out
math macro hovered frame


These two I can translate, but it'd nice to know what old and new 
parameters means in this context:

math macro new parameter
math macro old parameter

I tried math macros briefly. They have parameters, but I didn't notice 
anything about new or old ones.


Helge Hafting
If you have a macro with arguments, and you use it in a formula, and you 
click on it, then there is some sort of box (I don't know what it's 
functionality would be) around the macro and the macro text is now 
painted in color math macro blended out. It completely beats me, why 
this has to be a different color.


math macro hovered frame does not exist, but math macro hovered 
background does, but is not used.


To see what an old parameter is: Create a math macro, append an 
argument, now remove the #1's from the TeX and LyX fields, as #1 is not 
used anymore now, the #1 in the name field will be colored in the math 
macro old parameter color. I can't imagine anyone willing to customize 
this color


I have no idea what a new parameter is.

IMO, this is a bit over the top, and pretty buggy if you play with it 
for a bit.


Vincent

1.6.3svn, bad tooltip text in graphics dialog?

[Helge Hafting]

Graphichs dialog:
The maintain aspect ratio checkbox has the tooltip text Scale image 
to maximum size not exceeding width and height


This looks like misinformation to me. I never had the impression that 
this checkbox maximized the size in any way. It maintains correct aspect 
ratio, for example when I specify an exact width and no height. The 
image may very well be small - i.e. not maximized in any way.


Helge Hafting

Re: 1.6.3svn, bad tooltip text in graphics dialog?

[Enrico Forestieri]

On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:12:18AM +0200, Helge Hafting wrote:
 Graphichs dialog:
 The maintain aspect ratio checkbox has the tooltip text Scale image 
 to maximum size not exceeding width and height
 
 This looks like misinformation to me. I never had the impression that 
 this checkbox maximized the size in any way. It maintains correct aspect 
 ratio, for example when I specify an exact width and no height. The 
 image may very well be small - i.e. not maximized in any way.

If you give both width and height, you specify a bounding box that
should not be exceeded. So, the image will be scaled to the maximum
size such that neither the specified width nor the specified height
are exceeded.

If you only specify one of the dimensions, the other one can freely
grow.

Maybe the tooltip could be changed to Scale image to maximum size
not exceeding the bounding box specified by width and height.

-- 
Enrico

Re: [Web site] recent notify posts

[Uwe Stöhr]

Pavel Sanda schrieb:


* http://www.lyx.org/Web.VersioningSystem . . . May 28, 2009, at 08:28 PM by 
Uwe StĂśhr


btw Uwe removing the sentence For each major release, the source code is 
forked off into a
separate stable branch was not lucky step for better understanding of the text 
imho.


I removed this, because this is already said in the first sentence of this 
paragraph.

regards Uwe

Re: 1.6.3svn, bad tooltip text in graphics dialog?

[Helge Hafting]

Enrico Forestieri wrote:

On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:12:18AM +0200, Helge Hafting wrote:

Graphichs dialog:
The maintain aspect ratio checkbox has the tooltip text Scale image 
to maximum size not exceeding width and height


This looks like misinformation to me. I never had the impression that 
this checkbox maximized the size in any way. It maintains correct aspect 
ratio, for example when I specify an exact width and no height. The 
image may very well be small - i.e. not maximized in any way.


If you give both width and height, you specify a bounding box that
should not be exceeded. So, the image will be scaled to the maximum
size such that neither the specified width nor the specified height
are exceeded.

If you only specify one of the dimensions, the other one can freely
grow.


I see. Good thing I didn't try to fix this myself. It never occured to 
me to set all three of height, width, and maintain aspect ratio - I 
thought it was an impossible combination. Now I see that it is useful.


Helge Hafting

ams starred environments

[Russ Woodroofe]

Dear lyx developers,
	Attached is a diff -u patch fixing a small display bug in the AMS  
article layout, where starred Section, Subsections, etc are not  
displayed correctly.  I fixed it by repeating the modification of  
Sections.
	The AMS book layout file seems to have a similar problem, which I  
have taken the liberty of fixing as well.


	An example where this comes up:  I myself frequently use a starred  
section for acknowledgements in papers.  I've always found the  
different style jarring.


Two questions out of this:
1.  The AMS article file removes the Paragraph and Subparagraph  
environments, but leaves their starred versions.  Code to remove the  
starred versions is commented out.  It seems to me like this should be  
consistent.  Am I wrong?


2.  I don't use many other layout files, but a quick grep makes it  
look like the following layout files probably have the same problem:

aa.layout
aapaper.layout
aastex.layout
agu_stdsections.inc (??)
llncs.layout
ltugboat.layout
manpage.layout
memoir.layout
moderncv.layout (??)
numrevtex.layout
revtex.layout
revtex4.layout
scrclass.layout
siamltex.layout
simplecv.layout (??)
svjour.inc
	This is just the result of a grep Style Section * | less, with some  
obvious ones filtered out.  I don't actually use any of these -- I  
defer to the experts.  (I don't actually use AMS book, either, but I'm  
pretty confident on that one.)

Sincerely,

--Russ Woodroofe



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Re: Hartmut has created updated screenshots for the LyX Graphical Tour

[Mike Ressler]

Hi all,

On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org wrote:
 Christian Ridderström wrote:
 the graphical tour, so for now I've place the new images in the
 subdirectory
        images/LGT/En

 If anyone (perhaps the original authors)

 original authors are not here anymore i guess

The original author (that would be me) is still lurking in the background.

 note that images there are _not_ localised. i would encourage Hartmut
 to update the english version ot the text.

If you believe the dates on some of the xdvi screenshots, I did the
original 10 1/2 years ago! So it really is time to update the whole
thing, including the page previews. Is Hartmunt up to doing that? I
can volunteer to help proofread, but I don't have the opportunity to
do much more than that.

Mike


-- 
mike.ress...@alum.mit.edu

Re: Documentation of tex2lyx

[Lavaud Michel]

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes a écrit :

Enrico Forestieri  writes:
  

And surely introduce many others. If the only problem is shipping an
html version of the man pages the most unintrusive and fool proof
way is using man2html. 



The question is precisely to know whether we want to ship an html page.
Our documentation is in LyX format, after all.
  
From a point of view of a plain user : it would look neater and more 
logical to have it in LyX format. However, from a practical point of 
view, since it seems to be quite a long job, the html version obtained 
along Enrico's method, together with an additional line in the Help menu 
pointing to it would be perfect too (in my opinion).


Best wishes,
Michel

Re: Translation questions about colors settings for math macros

[Vincent van Ravesteijn]

Helge Hafting schreef:
The color settings have several settings for math macros, that I don't 
understand.


I have no idea what these two are, so I cannot translate:
math macro blended out
math macro hovered frame


These two I can translate, but it'd nice to know what "old" and "new" 
parameters means in this context:

math macro new parameter
math macro old parameter

I tried math macros briefly. They have parameters, but I didn't notice 
anything about "new" or "old" ones.


Helge Hafting
If you have a macro with arguments, and you use it in a formula, and you 
click on it, then there is some sort of box (I don't know what it's 
functionality would be) around the macro and the macro text is now 
painted in color "math macro blended out". It completely beats me, why 
this has to be a different color.


"math macro hovered frame" does not exist, but "math macro hovered 
background" does, but is not used.


To see what an old parameter is: Create a math macro, append an 
argument, now remove the #1's from the TeX and LyX fields, as #1 is not 
used anymore now, the #1 in the name field will be colored in the "math 
macro old parameter" color. I can't imagine anyone willing to customize 
this color


I have no idea what a "new parameter" is.

IMO, this is a bit over the top, and pretty buggy if you play with it 
for a bit.


Vincent

1.6.3svn, bad tooltip text in graphics dialog?

[Helge Hafting]

Graphichs dialog:
The "maintain aspect ratio" checkbox has the tooltip text "Scale image 
to maximum size not exceeding width and height"


This looks like misinformation to me. I never had the impression that 
this checkbox maximized the size in any way. It maintains correct aspect 
ratio, for example when I specify an exact width and no height. The 
image may very well be small - i.e. not maximized in any way.


Helge Hafting

Re: 1.6.3svn, bad tooltip text in graphics dialog?

[Enrico Forestieri]

On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:12:18AM +0200, Helge Hafting wrote:
> Graphichs dialog:
> The "maintain aspect ratio" checkbox has the tooltip text "Scale image 
> to maximum size not exceeding width and height"
> 
> This looks like misinformation to me. I never had the impression that 
> this checkbox maximized the size in any way. It maintains correct aspect 
> ratio, for example when I specify an exact width and no height. The 
> image may very well be small - i.e. not maximized in any way.

If you give both width and height, you specify a bounding box that
should not be exceeded. So, the image will be scaled to the maximum
size such that neither the specified width nor the specified height
are exceeded.

If you only specify one of the dimensions, the other one can freely
grow.

Maybe the tooltip could be changed to "Scale image to maximum size
not exceeding the bounding box specified by width and height".

-- 
Enrico

Re: [Web site] recent notify posts

[Uwe Stöhr]

Pavel Sanda schrieb:


* http://www.lyx.org/Web.VersioningSystem . . . May 28, 2009, at 08:28 PM by 
Uwe StĂśhr


btw Uwe removing the sentence "For each major release, the source code is 
forked off into a
separate stable branch" was not lucky step for better understanding of the text 
imho.


I removed this, because this is already said in the first sentence of this 
paragraph.

regards Uwe

Re: 1.6.3svn, bad tooltip text in graphics dialog?

[Helge Hafting]

Enrico Forestieri wrote:

On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:12:18AM +0200, Helge Hafting wrote:

Graphichs dialog:
The "maintain aspect ratio" checkbox has the tooltip text "Scale image 
to maximum size not exceeding width and height"


This looks like misinformation to me. I never had the impression that 
this checkbox maximized the size in any way. It maintains correct aspect 
ratio, for example when I specify an exact width and no height. The 
image may very well be small - i.e. not maximized in any way.


If you give both width and height, you specify a bounding box that
should not be exceeded. So, the image will be scaled to the maximum
size such that neither the specified width nor the specified height
are exceeded.

If you only specify one of the dimensions, the other one can freely
grow.


I see. Good thing I didn't try to fix this myself. It never occured to 
me to set all three of height, width, and maintain aspect ratio - I 
thought it was an impossible combination. Now I see that it is useful.


Helge Hafting

ams starred environments

[Russ Woodroofe]

Dear lyx developers,
	Attached is a "diff -u" patch fixing a small display bug in the AMS  
article layout, where starred Section, Subsections, etc are not  
displayed correctly.  I fixed it by repeating the modification of  
Sections.
	The AMS book layout file seems to have a similar problem, which I  
have taken the liberty of fixing as well.


	An example where this comes up:  I myself frequently use a starred  
section for acknowledgements in papers.  I've always found the  
different style jarring.


Two questions out of this:
1.  The AMS article file removes the Paragraph and Subparagraph  
environments, but leaves their starred versions.  Code to remove the  
starred versions is commented out.  It seems to me like this should be  
consistent.  Am I wrong?


2.  I don't use many other layout files, but a quick grep makes it  
look like the following layout files probably have the same problem:

aa.layout
aapaper.layout
aastex.layout
agu_stdsections.inc (??)
llncs.layout
ltugboat.layout
manpage.layout
memoir.layout
moderncv.layout (??)
numrevtex.layout
revtex.layout
revtex4.layout
scrclass.layout
siamltex.layout
simplecv.layout (??)
svjour.inc
	This is just the result of a grep "Style Section" * | less, with some  
obvious ones filtered out.  I don't actually use any of these -- I  
defer to the experts.  (I don't actually use AMS book, either, but I'm  
pretty confident on that one.)

Sincerely,

--Russ Woodroofe



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Description: Binary data

Re: Hartmut has created updated screenshots for the LyX Graphical Tour

[Mike Ressler]

Hi all,

On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Pavel Sanda  wrote:
> Christian Ridderström wrote:
>> the graphical tour, so for now I've place the new images in the
>> subdirectory
>>        images/LGT/En
>>
>> If anyone (perhaps the original authors)
>
> original authors are not here anymore i guess

The original author (that would be me) is still lurking in the background.

> note that images there are _not_ localised. i would encourage Hartmut
> to update the english version ot the text.

If you believe the dates on some of the xdvi screenshots, I did the
original 10 1/2 years ago! So it really is time to update the whole
thing, including the page previews. Is Hartmunt up to doing that? I
can volunteer to help proofread, but I don't have the opportunity to
do much more than that.

Mike


-- 
mike.ress...@alum.mit.edu