Re: Wiki password

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Joost Verburg wrote:
 Could someone send me the password for editing protected pages on the wiki?

Done.

Jürgen

Re: No Mouse scrolling in LyX 2.0 - Mac?

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Jean-Marc LASGOUTTES wrote:
  Jean-Marc LASGOUTTES wrote:
   Really cool! It works with one small correction: the convert()
   function cannot handle the double value. I changed the patch
   accordingly and attach it again.
 
  
 
  Very good. I applied it. Am I right that this is needed in 1.6.x too?
  
  Seems so.
 
 OK, I saw the message on lyx-users and applied the fix to branch.

The message I referred to turned out to be a misunderstanding (the user used 
trunk and thought it was branch).

Nevertheless, the commit seems appropriate.

Jürgen

Re: No Mouse scrolling in LyX 2.0 - Mac?

[Jean-Marc LASGOUTTES]

Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org writes:

 Jean-Marc LASGOUTTES wrote:
  Really cool! It works with one small correction: the convert() function
  cannot handle the double value. I changed the patch accordingly and
  attach it again.
 
 Very good. I applied it. Am I right that this is needed in 1.6.x too?

 Seems so.

OK, I saw the message on lyx-users and applied the fix to branch.

JMarc

Re: No Mouse scrolling in LyX 2.0 - Mac?

[Jean-Marc LASGOUTTES]

Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org writes:
 The message I referred to turned out to be a misunderstanding (the user used 
 trunk and thought it was branch).

Doh! Indeed.

 Nevertheless, the commit seems appropriate.

I hope so. It _looks_ safe, but one never knows...

JMarc

Re: No Mouse scrolling in LyX 2.0 - Mac?

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Jean-Marc LASGOUTTES wrote:
  Nevertheless, the commit seems appropriate.
 
 I hope so. It looks safe, but one never knows...

So everybody please test mouse scrolling in branch.
(it still works here)

Jürgen

Re: confusion of tongues

[Michal]

 FYI these installers are now online.
 
 Jürgen
I'm using the alternate installer and I've also found, that the UI
language option is ignored. This installer has not been updated yet.
However, I've found that the following batch file (inside 'bin'
directory) gives me an English UI:

set LANG=en_EN
LyxLauncher.exe %*

Regards,
Michał Skrzypek

platex as the default latex command?

[Manuel Pégourié-Gonnard]

Hi,

First of all, I'd like to mention I'm no Lyx user (just never got to test it),
but a maintainer of TeX Live. Recently, we got an report [1] from a Lyx user
that some of his documents stopped working after upgrading from TeX Live 2009 to
2010-pretest.

[1] http://tug.org/pipermail/tex-live/2010-July/026815.html

The report (and further discussion) isn't very clear, but the problem seems to
be that platex is used to typeset the document, while the user apparently didn't
ask for it. It would explain why the same document worked with TL 2009: platex
wasn't provided, so Lyx didn't try to use it.

Out of curiosity, I installed Lyx (1.6.7) on my box. In ~/.lyx/lyxrc.defaults, I
see the following line:

\converter latex  dviplatex   latex

so I'm under the impression that platex is indeed the default command for the
latex format.

The problem is, platex isn't a drop-in replacement for the classic latex
command at all. For example, pTeX doesn't have e-TeX extensions (which explains
the original problem with Koma-script) provided by pdfTeX (used by the latex
command) and expected by and increasing number of packages and classes.

So, I'd like to strongly suggest you switch back to using the latex command
(ie pdftex engine) as a default even if platex is available, and use platex only
when specifically needed. Otherwise, there may be a lot of problems like the
above when people migrate to TeX Live 2010 which provides platex.

If I misunderstood something and platex isn't currently the default when
available, then keep it this way and please accept my apologies for the noise.

Thanks,
Manuel.

PS: I didn't subscribe to the list, so please keep me cc-ed if you need more
details or otherwise want me to follow the discussion.

Re: platex as the default latex command?

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Manuel Pégourié-Gonnard wrote:
 First of all, I'd like to mention I'm no Lyx user (just never got to test
 it), but a maintainer of TeX Live. Recently, we got an report [1] from a
 Lyx user that some of his documents stopped working after upgrading from
 TeX Live 2009 to 2010-pretest.
 
 [1] http://tug.org/pipermail/tex-live/2010-July/026815.html

Yes, I can confirm this behaviour with TL 2010. And yes, this is of course a 
bug. LyX should only use platex for Japanese documents.

The reason is to be found around line 215 of configure.py.

Jürgen

Re: platex as the default latex command?

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
  First of all, I'd like to mention I'm no Lyx user (just never got to test
  it), but a maintainer of TeX Live. Recently, we got an report [1] from a
  Lyx user that some of his documents stopped working after upgrading from
  TeX Live 2009 to 2010-pretest.
 
  
 
  [1] http://tug.org/pipermail/tex-live/2010-July/026815.html
 
 Yes, I can confirm this behaviour with TL 2010. And yes, this is of course
 a  bug. LyX should only use platex for Japanese documents.
 
 The reason is to be found around line 215 of configure.py.

The attached patch strikes me like the correct fix.

Koji, does Japanese still work with this?

Jürgen
Index: lib/configure.py
===
--- lib/configure.py	(Revision 35038)
+++ lib/configure.py	(Arbeitskopie)
@@ -198,7 +198,7 @@
 
 def checkLatex(dtl_tools):
 ''' Check latex, return lyx_check_config '''
-path, LATEX = checkProg('a Latex2e program', ['latex $$i', 'platex $$i', 'latex2e $$i'])
+path, LATEX = checkProg('a Latex2e program', ['latex $$i', 'latex2e $$i'])
 path, PPLATEX = checkProg('a DVI postprocessing program', ['pplatex $$i'])
 #-
 path, PLATEX = checkProg('pLaTeX, the Japanese LaTeX', ['platex $$i'])
@@ -212,7 +212,6 @@
 if cmdOutput(PLATEX + ' chklatex.ltx').find('pLaTeX2e') != -1:
 # We have the Japanese pLaTeX2e
 addToRC(r'\converter platex   dvi   %s   latex' % PLATEX)
-LATEX = PLATEX
 else:
 PLATEX = ''
 removeFiles(['chklatex.ltx', 'chklatex.log'])

Re: platex as the default latex command?

[Jean-Marc LASGOUTTES]

Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org writes:

 Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
  First of all, I'd like to mention I'm no Lyx user (just never got to test
  it), but a maintainer of TeX Live. Recently, we got an report [1] from a
  Lyx user that some of his documents stopped working after upgrading from
  TeX Live 2009 to 2010-pretest.
 
  
 
  [1] http://tug.org/pipermail/tex-live/2010-July/026815.html
 
 Yes, I can confirm this behaviour with TL 2010. And yes, this is of course
 a  bug. LyX should only use platex for Japanese documents.
 
 The reason is to be found around line 215 of configure.py.

 The attached patch strikes me like the correct fix.
 -path, LATEX = checkProg('a Latex2e program', ['latex $$i', 'platex $$i', 
 'latex2e $$i'])
 +path, LATEX = checkProg('a Latex2e program', ['latex $$i', 'latex2e 
 $$i'])

Does this mean that 'latex' is not found with texlive 2010?

JMarc

Re: Improvements to Lyx user interface

[Helge Hafting]

On 29. juli 2010 20:58, Alberto Malagoli wrote:

Hi all,
I'd like to share with you some ideas about Lyx user interface, and
how can be improved...
I made a presentation with the explanation of my thoughts, you can find
it here:

https://docs.google.com/present/view?id=dckbsjn9_41f57jwcdh

I also attached the user interface files I made with Qt Designer, so you
can see it and try it in real time :)

Let me know what do you think about, and don't hesitate with criticism!


As you say yourself - dock widgets waste a lot of space. That is a 
problem. My work PC has a big screen and an extra monitor. But my

travel PC has a tiny 8 screen. Current LyX is fine with that, but I
have no room for any extra toolbars. And definitely not something
docked on the side.

It is nice having a LyX that works well on small screens. And of course, 
on big screen computers I don't wan't LyX to take up all the room 
either. It is nice having room for a web browser or an extra LyX, 
without overlap.


Helge Hafting

Re: platex as the default latex command?

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Jean-Marc LASGOUTTES wrote:
  The attached patch strikes me like the correct fix.
  -path, LATEX = checkProg('a Latex2e program', ['latex $$i', 'platex
  $$i', 'latex2e $$i']) +path, LATEX = checkProg('a Latex2e program',
  ['latex $$i', 'latex2e $$i'])
 
 Does this mean that 'latex' is not found with texlive 2010?

No. latex is found and ascribed to the LATEX variable. But later (line 215), 
is is replaced by platex (given that platex was found):

 if cmdOutput(PLATEX + ' chklatex.ltx').find('pLaTeX2e') != -1:
 # We have the Japanese pLaTeX2e
 addToRC(r'\converter platex   dvi   %s   latex' % PLATEX)
 LATEX = PLATEX

I suppose this is a remainder of the time when we did not yet separate platex 
from latex (and supposed that if platex is installed, it should be used).

Jürgen

Re: r35040 - lyx-devel/trunk/src/frontends/qt4

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

spitz wrote:
 Author: spitz
 Date: Mon Aug  2 18:38:41 2010
 New Revision: 35040
 URL: http://www.lyx.org/trac/changeset/35040
 
 Log:
 * GuiLog.cpp: refine warning detection:
 - detect LaTeX Font Warning
 - detect Class X Warning
 - package warnings can contain dots (Package pdftex.def Warning)

I intend to backport this to branch if there are no objections.

Jürgen

Re: r35040 - lyx-devel/trunk/src/frontends/qt4

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Log:
* GuiLog.cpp: refine warning detection:
- detect LaTeX Font Warning
- detect Class X Warning
- package warnings can contain dots (Package pdftex.def Warning)

-QRegExp exprWarning(^(LaTeX Warning|Package \\w+ Warning).*$);
+QRegExp exprWarning(^(LaTeX Warning|LaTeX Font Warning|Package [\\w 
\\.]+ Warning|Class \\w+ Warning).*$);


Why not factor  Warning out of the parenthesis?

JMarc

Re: platex as the default latex command?

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Le 2 août 10 à 17:58, Jürgen Spitzmüller a écrit :
No. latex is found and ascribed to the LATEX variable. But later  
(line 215),

is is replaced by platex (given that platex was found):

if cmdOutput(PLATEX + ' chklatex.ltx').find('pLaTeX2e') != -1:
# We have the Japanese pLaTeX2e
addToRC(r'\converter platex   dvi   %s   latex'  
% PLATEX)

LATEX = PLATEX

I suppose this is a remainder of the time when we did not yet  
separate platex
from latex (and supposed that if platex is installed, it should be  
used).


OK, then your patch seems fine.

JMarc

Re: r35040 - lyx-devel/trunk/src/frontends/qt4

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
  -QRegExp exprWarning(^(LaTeX Warning|Package \\w+ Warning).*$);
  +QRegExp exprWarning(^(LaTeX Warning|LaTeX Font Warning|Package [\\w 
  \\.]+ Warning|Class \\w+ Warning).*$);
 
 Why not factor  Warning out of the parenthesis?

You mean
QRegExp exprWarning(^(LaTeX|LaTeX Font|Package [\\w\\.]+|Class \\w+) 
Warning.*$);
?
(sorry, I'm not so good at regexing).

Jürgen

Re: Beta plans (again)

[Stephan Witt]

Am 02.08.2010 um 01:55 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes:

 Le 26 juil. 10 à 14:30, Stephan Witt a écrit :
 My next target (for beta phase?) would be to check the installation issues 
 on mac to make the application working out-of-the-box.
 
 What about removing the complicated mac-specific code in aspell now that it 
 is not needed anymore?

I'm a little bit sorrowful that the native spell checker is not fast enough for 
continuously checking when doing it word-wise.
So we are not ready to switch off aspell :( 

Currently I have no time to improve the situation.

You're back in Paris? Yesterday evening I crossed the Rue de Clignancourt :-) 
Tomorrow I'll leave Paris and go to Orleans.

Stephan

Re: r35040 - lyx-devel/trunk/src/frontends/qt4

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Le 2 août 10 à 19:29, Jürgen Spitzmüller a écrit :

Why not factor  Warning out of the parenthesis?


You mean
QRegExp exprWarning(^(LaTeX|LaTeX Font|Package [\\w\\.]+|Class \\w+)
Warning.*$);
?
(sorry, I'm not so good at regexing).


Yes, but if you find the first solution more readable, you can keep  
it...

(now that I see it, I am not sure that it is much of a gain)

JMarc

Re: Beta plans (again)

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Le 2 août 10 à 20:57, Stephan Witt a écrit :
I'm a little bit sorrowful that the native spell checker is not fast  
enough for continuously checking when doing it word-wise.

So we are not ready to switch off aspell :(

Currently I have no time to improve the situation.


I think I hqve some. I'll see what I can do.

You're back in Paris? Yesterday evening I crossed the Rue de  
Clignancourt :-)

Tomorrow I'll leave Paris and go to Orleans.


Too bad, I arrived yesterday evening and I am here until 13/08.

JMarc

Re: [patch] revtex 4.1 support

[Julien Rioux]

On 01/08/2010 3:54 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:

Julien Rioux wrote:

Here is a patch against latest trunk for a REVTeX 4.1 layout and
template file.


Could you briefly decribe the changes wrt ReVTeX 4, or are there too many?

Jürgen



The changes to the latex class are described here: [1].

On the layout side, changes include:

- Use of categories
- Added support for ruledtabular, subequations, turnpage,
  and widetext environments.
- Support for video float, \setfloatlink, \lowercase
  and \surname commands (those are specific to 4.1).

Revtex 4.1 was designed in conjunction with the developer of natbib and 
this lead to natbib 8.31 which also brings new features. These are at 
the moment unsupported by LyX:


- multiple references in a single bibliography entry, e.g.
  \cite{ref1,*ref2} becomes [1] in text and in the reference list:

  [1] Author1, ref1 (year1); author2, ref2 (year2).

- prepending/appending text to a bibliography entry, e.g.
  \cite{[, and references therein.]ref3} becomes:

  [2] Author3, ref3 (year3), and references therein.

You can edit a LyX file to hack this sort of syntax into a citation 
inset, and it will work, but there is currently no UI. I didn't attempt 
to tackle this.


--
Julien

[1] https://authors.aps.org/revtex4/revtex4_faq.html#c1

Re: [patch] revtex 4.1 support

[Julien Rioux]

When I said edit a LyX file I meant with an external plain text 
editor. It confuses the LyX GUI a bit but compiles fine with the 
expected result.


--
Julien

Re: No Mouse scrolling in LyX 2.0 - Mac?

[Stephan Witt]

Am 02.08.2010 um 12:41 schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller:

 Jean-Marc LASGOUTTES wrote:
 Nevertheless, the commit seems appropriate.
 
 I hope so. It looks safe, but one never knows...
 
 So everybody please test mouse scrolling in branch.
 (it still works here)

Works for me with scroll pad on mac.

Stephan

Re: [patch] layout dependencies

[Guenter Milde]

On 2010-07-30, Julien Rioux wrote:
 This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
 --030503040800070104030405
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

 Hi LyX developers,

 LyX 2.0 now has a new mechanism for relaying layout dependencies to the 
 user, such as the class filename. Most LaTeX classes also rely on 
 certain packages to be installed. It could be argued that this 
 information should be provided to LyX in the layout files. This patch 
 address this.

With these additions, it would be nice if the reported error for
nonavailable dependencies would be changed from

  Not available: 
  
to

  Missing dependencies: ...
  
Günter

Re: Beta plans (again)

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Le 2 août 10 à 20:57, Stephan Witt a écrit :
I'm a little bit sorrowful that the native spell checker is not fast  
enough for continuously checking when doing it word-wise.

So we are not ready to switch off aspell :(

Currently I have no time to improve the situation.


I do not manage to get the native spellchecker to work. The situation  
is that I do not use the

binary-release.sh script, but only the plain configure script.

I found that I have to set MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET and SDKROOT before  
running make. I plan to
eventually move this to configure.ac (the idea is that plan configure  
should be enough in general,

and the full script is for packagers)

The situation I am in is that no language seems to be recognized. For  
example, in hasLanguageAppleSpeller,

 [speller-checker availableLanguages] returns an empty list.

Do you have an idea about what could be the cause?

I am on Leopard (10.5), BTW.

JMarc

PS:

Gino: echo $MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET
10.4
Gino: echo $SDKROOT
/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.5.sdk

Re: Wiki password

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Joost Verburg wrote:
> Could someone send me the password for editing protected pages on the wiki?

Done.

Jürgen

Re: No Mouse scrolling in LyX 2.0 - Mac?

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Jean-Marc LASGOUTTES wrote:
> > Jean-Marc LASGOUTTES wrote:
> >> > Really cool! It works with one small correction: the convert()
> >> > function cannot handle the double value. I changed the patch
> >> > accordingly and attach it again.
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >> Very good. I applied it. Am I right that this is needed in 1.6.x too?
> > 
> > Seems so.
> 
> OK, I saw the message on lyx-users and applied the fix to branch.

The message I referred to turned out to be a misunderstanding (the user used 
trunk and thought it was branch).

Nevertheless, the commit seems appropriate.

Jürgen

Re: No Mouse scrolling in LyX 2.0 - Mac?

[Jean-Marc LASGOUTTES]

Jürgen Spitzmüller  writes:

> Jean-Marc LASGOUTTES wrote:
>> > Really cool! It works with one small correction: the convert() function
>> > cannot handle the double value. I changed the patch accordingly and
>> > attach it again.
>> 
>> Very good. I applied it. Am I right that this is needed in 1.6.x too?
>
> Seems so.

OK, I saw the message on lyx-users and applied the fix to branch.

JMarc

Re: No Mouse scrolling in LyX 2.0 - Mac?

[Jean-Marc LASGOUTTES]

Jürgen Spitzmüller  writes:
> The message I referred to turned out to be a misunderstanding (the user used 
> trunk and thought it was branch).

Doh! Indeed.

> Nevertheless, the commit seems appropriate.

I hope so. It _looks_ safe, but one never knows...

JMarc

Re: No Mouse scrolling in LyX 2.0 - Mac?

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Jean-Marc LASGOUTTES wrote:
> > Nevertheless, the commit seems appropriate.
> 
> I hope so. It looks safe, but one never knows...

So everybody please test mouse scrolling in branch.
(it still works here)

Jürgen

Re: confusion of tongues

[Michal]

> FYI these installers are now online.
> 
> Jürgen
I'm using the alternate installer and I've also found, that the UI
language option is ignored. This installer has not been updated yet.
However, I've found that the following batch file (inside 'bin'
directory) gives me an English UI:

set LANG=en_EN
LyxLauncher.exe %*

Regards,
Michał Skrzypek

platex as the default latex command?

[Manuel Pégourié-Gonnard]

Hi,

First of all, I'd like to mention I'm no Lyx user (just never got to test it),
but a maintainer of TeX Live. Recently, we got an report [1] from a Lyx user
that some of his documents stopped working after upgrading from TeX Live 2009 to
2010-pretest.

[1] http://tug.org/pipermail/tex-live/2010-July/026815.html

The report (and further discussion) isn't very clear, but the problem seems to
be that platex is used to typeset the document, while the user apparently didn't
ask for it. It would explain why the same document worked with TL 2009: platex
wasn't provided, so Lyx didn't try to use it.

Out of curiosity, I installed Lyx (1.6.7) on my box. In ~/.lyx/lyxrc.defaults, I
see the following line:

\converter latex  dvi"platex"   "latex"

so I'm under the impression that platex is indeed the default command for the
latex format.

The problem is, platex isn't a drop-in replacement for the "classic" latex
command at all. For example, pTeX doesn't have e-TeX extensions (which explains
the original problem with Koma-script) provided by pdfTeX (used by the "latex"
command) and expected by and increasing number of packages and classes.

So, I'd like to strongly suggest you switch back to using the "latex" command
(ie pdftex engine) as a default even if platex is available, and use platex only
when specifically needed. Otherwise, there may be a lot of problems like the
above when people migrate to TeX Live 2010 which provides platex.

If I misunderstood something and platex isn't currently the default when
available, then keep it this way and please accept my apologies for the noise.

Thanks,
Manuel.

PS: I didn't subscribe to the list, so please keep me cc-ed if you need more
details or otherwise want me to follow the discussion.

Re: platex as the default latex command?

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Manuel Pégourié-Gonnard wrote:
> First of all, I'd like to mention I'm no Lyx user (just never got to test
> it), but a maintainer of TeX Live. Recently, we got an report [1] from a
> Lyx user that some of his documents stopped working after upgrading from
> TeX Live 2009 to 2010-pretest.
> 
> [1] http://tug.org/pipermail/tex-live/2010-July/026815.html

Yes, I can confirm this behaviour with TL 2010. And yes, this is of course a 
bug. LyX should only use platex for Japanese documents.

The reason is to be found around line 215 of configure.py.

Jürgen

Re: platex as the default latex command?

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> > First of all, I'd like to mention I'm no Lyx user (just never got to test
> > it), but a maintainer of TeX Live. Recently, we got an report [1] from a
> > Lyx user that some of his documents stopped working after upgrading from
> > TeX Live 2009 to 2010-pretest.
> >
> > 
> >
> > [1] http://tug.org/pipermail/tex-live/2010-July/026815.html
> 
> Yes, I can confirm this behaviour with TL 2010. And yes, this is of course
> a  bug. LyX should only use platex for Japanese documents.
> 
> The reason is to be found around line 215 of configure.py.

The attached patch strikes me like the correct fix.

Koji, does Japanese still work with this?

Jürgen
Index: lib/configure.py
===
--- lib/configure.py	(Revision 35038)
+++ lib/configure.py	(Arbeitskopie)
@@ -198,7 +198,7 @@
 
 def checkLatex(dtl_tools):
 ''' Check latex, return lyx_check_config '''
-path, LATEX = checkProg('a Latex2e program', ['latex $$i', 'platex $$i', 'latex2e $$i'])
+path, LATEX = checkProg('a Latex2e program', ['latex $$i', 'latex2e $$i'])
 path, PPLATEX = checkProg('a DVI postprocessing program', ['pplatex $$i'])
 #-
 path, PLATEX = checkProg('pLaTeX, the Japanese LaTeX', ['platex $$i'])
@@ -212,7 +212,6 @@
 if cmdOutput(PLATEX + ' chklatex.ltx').find('pLaTeX2e') != -1:
 # We have the Japanese pLaTeX2e
 addToRC(r'\converter platex   dvi   "%s"   "latex"' % PLATEX)
-LATEX = PLATEX
 else:
 PLATEX = ''
 removeFiles(['chklatex.ltx', 'chklatex.log'])

Re: platex as the default latex command?

[Jean-Marc LASGOUTTES]

Jürgen Spitzmüller  writes:

> Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
>> > First of all, I'd like to mention I'm no Lyx user (just never got to test
>> > it), but a maintainer of TeX Live. Recently, we got an report [1] from a
>> > Lyx user that some of his documents stopped working after upgrading from
>> > TeX Live 2009 to 2010-pretest.
>> >
>> > 
>> >
>> > [1] http://tug.org/pipermail/tex-live/2010-July/026815.html
>> 
>> Yes, I can confirm this behaviour with TL 2010. And yes, this is of course
>> a  bug. LyX should only use platex for Japanese documents.
>> 
>> The reason is to be found around line 215 of configure.py.
>
> The attached patch strikes me like the correct fix.
> -path, LATEX = checkProg('a Latex2e program', ['latex $$i', 'platex $$i', 
> 'latex2e $$i'])
> +path, LATEX = checkProg('a Latex2e program', ['latex $$i', 'latex2e 
> $$i'])

Does this mean that 'latex' is not found with texlive 2010?

JMarc

Re: Improvements to Lyx user interface

[Helge Hafting]

On 29. juli 2010 20:58, Alberto Malagoli wrote:

Hi all,
I'd like to share with you some ideas about Lyx user interface, and
how can be improved...
I made a presentation with the explanation of my thoughts, you can find
it here:

https://docs.google.com/present/view?id=dckbsjn9_41f57jwcdh

I also attached the user interface files I made with Qt Designer, so you
can see it and try it in real time :)

Let me know what do you think about, and don't hesitate with criticism!


As you say yourself - dock widgets waste a lot of space. That is a 
problem. My work PC has a big screen and an extra monitor. But my

"travel PC" has a tiny 8" screen. Current LyX is fine with that, but I
have no room for any extra toolbars. And definitely not something
docked on the side.

It is nice having a LyX that works well on small screens. And of course, 
on big screen computers I don't wan't LyX to take up all the room 
either. It is nice having room for a web browser or an extra LyX, 
without overlap.


Helge Hafting

Re: platex as the default latex command?

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Jean-Marc LASGOUTTES wrote:
> > The attached patch strikes me like the correct fix.
> > -path, LATEX = checkProg('a Latex2e program', ['latex $$i', 'platex
> > $$i', 'latex2e $$i']) +path, LATEX = checkProg('a Latex2e program',
> > ['latex $$i', 'latex2e $$i'])
> 
> Does this mean that 'latex' is not found with texlive 2010?

No. "latex" is found and ascribed to the LATEX variable. But later (line 215), 
is is replaced by "platex" (given that platex was found):

 if cmdOutput(PLATEX + ' chklatex.ltx').find('pLaTeX2e') != -1:
 # We have the Japanese pLaTeX2e
 addToRC(r'\converter platex   dvi   "%s"   "latex"' % PLATEX)
 LATEX = PLATEX

I suppose this is a remainder of the time when we did not yet separate platex 
from latex (and supposed that if platex is installed, it should be used).

Jürgen

Re: r35040 - lyx-devel/trunk/src/frontends/qt4

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

spitz wrote:
> Author: spitz
> Date: Mon Aug  2 18:38:41 2010
> New Revision: 35040
> URL: http://www.lyx.org/trac/changeset/35040
> 
> Log:
> * GuiLog.cpp: refine warning detection:
> - detect "LaTeX Font Warning"
> - detect "Class X Warning"
> - package warnings can contain dots ("Package pdftex.def Warning")

I intend to backport this to branch if there are no objections.

Jürgen

Re: r35040 - lyx-devel/trunk/src/frontends/qt4

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Log:
* GuiLog.cpp: refine warning detection:
- detect "LaTeX Font Warning"
- detect "Class X Warning"
- package warnings can contain dots ("Package pdftex.def Warning")

-QRegExp exprWarning("^(LaTeX Warning|Package \\w+ Warning).*$");
+QRegExp exprWarning("^(LaTeX Warning|LaTeX Font Warning|Package [\\w 
\\.]+ Warning|Class \\w+ Warning).*$");


Why not factor " Warning" out of the parenthesis?

JMarc

Re: platex as the default latex command?

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Le 2 août 10 à 17:58, Jürgen Spitzmüller a écrit :
No. "latex" is found and ascribed to the LATEX variable. But later  
(line 215),

is is replaced by "platex" (given that platex was found):

if cmdOutput(PLATEX + ' chklatex.ltx').find('pLaTeX2e') != -1:
# We have the Japanese pLaTeX2e
addToRC(r'\converter platex   dvi   "%s"   "latex"'  
% PLATEX)

LATEX = PLATEX

I suppose this is a remainder of the time when we did not yet  
separate platex
from latex (and supposed that if platex is installed, it should be  
used).


OK, then your patch seems fine.

JMarc

Re: r35040 - lyx-devel/trunk/src/frontends/qt4

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> > -QRegExp exprWarning("^(LaTeX Warning|Package \\w+ Warning).*$");
> > +QRegExp exprWarning("^(LaTeX Warning|LaTeX Font Warning|Package [\\w 
> > \\.]+ Warning|Class \\w+ Warning).*$");
> 
> Why not factor " Warning" out of the parenthesis?

You mean
QRegExp exprWarning("^(LaTeX|LaTeX Font|Package [\\w\\.]+|Class \\w+) 
Warning.*$");
?
(sorry, I'm not so good at regexing).

Jürgen

Re: Beta plans (again)

[Stephan Witt]

Am 02.08.2010 um 01:55 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes:

> Le 26 juil. 10 à 14:30, Stephan Witt a écrit :
>> My next target (for beta phase?) would be to check the installation issues 
>> on mac to make the application working out-of-the-box.
> 
> What about removing the complicated mac-specific code in aspell now that it 
> is not needed anymore?

I'm a little bit sorrowful that the native spell checker is not fast enough for 
continuously checking when doing it word-wise.
So we are not ready to switch off aspell :( 

Currently I have no time to improve the situation.

You're back in Paris? Yesterday evening I crossed the Rue de Clignancourt :-) 
Tomorrow I'll leave Paris and go to Orleans.

Stephan

Re: r35040 - lyx-devel/trunk/src/frontends/qt4

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Le 2 août 10 à 19:29, Jürgen Spitzmüller a écrit :

Why not factor " Warning" out of the parenthesis?


You mean
QRegExp exprWarning("^(LaTeX|LaTeX Font|Package [\\w\\.]+|Class \\w+)
Warning.*$");
?
(sorry, I'm not so good at regexing).


Yes, but if you find the first solution more readable, you can keep  
it...

(now that I see it, I am not sure that it is much of a gain)

JMarc

Re: Beta plans (again)

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Le 2 août 10 à 20:57, Stephan Witt a écrit :
I'm a little bit sorrowful that the native spell checker is not fast  
enough for continuously checking when doing it word-wise.

So we are not ready to switch off aspell :(

Currently I have no time to improve the situation.


I think I hqve some. I'll see what I can do.

You're back in Paris? Yesterday evening I crossed the Rue de  
Clignancourt :-)

Tomorrow I'll leave Paris and go to Orleans.


Too bad, I arrived yesterday evening and I am here until 13/08.

JMarc

Re: [patch] revtex 4.1 support

[Julien Rioux]

On 01/08/2010 3:54 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:

Julien Rioux wrote:

Here is a patch against latest trunk for a REVTeX 4.1 layout and
template file.


Could you briefly decribe the changes wrt ReVTeX 4, or are there too many?

Jürgen



The changes to the latex class are described here: [1].

On the layout side, changes include:

- Use of categories
- Added support for ruledtabular, subequations, turnpage,
  and widetext environments.
- Support for video float, \setfloatlink, \lowercase
  and \surname commands (those are specific to 4.1).

Revtex 4.1 was designed in conjunction with the developer of natbib and 
this lead to natbib 8.31 which also brings new features. These are at 
the moment unsupported by LyX:


- multiple references in a single bibliography entry, e.g.
  \cite{ref1,*ref2} becomes [1] in text and in the reference list:

  [1] Author1, ref1 (year1); author2, ref2 (year2).

- prepending/appending text to a bibliography entry, e.g.
  \cite{[, and references therein.]ref3} becomes:

  [2] Author3, ref3 (year3), and references therein.

You can edit a LyX file to hack this sort of syntax into a citation 
inset, and it will work, but there is currently no UI. I didn't attempt 
to tackle this.


--
Julien

[1] https://authors.aps.org/revtex4/revtex4_faq.html#c1

Re: [patch] revtex 4.1 support

[Julien Rioux]

When I said "edit a LyX file" I meant with an external plain text 
editor. It confuses the LyX GUI a bit but compiles fine with the 
expected result.


--
Julien

Re: No Mouse scrolling in LyX 2.0 - Mac?

[Stephan Witt]

Am 02.08.2010 um 12:41 schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller:

> Jean-Marc LASGOUTTES wrote:
>>> Nevertheless, the commit seems appropriate.
>> 
>> I hope so. It looks safe, but one never knows...
> 
> So everybody please test mouse scrolling in branch.
> (it still works here)

Works for me with scroll pad on mac.

Stephan

Re: [patch] layout dependencies

[Guenter Milde]

On 2010-07-30, Julien Rioux wrote:
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> Hi LyX developers,

> LyX 2.0 now has a new mechanism for relaying layout dependencies to the 
> user, such as the class filename. Most LaTeX classes also rely on 
> certain packages to be installed. It could be argued that this 
> information should be provided to LyX in the layout files. This patch 
> address this.

With these additions, it would be nice if the reported error for
nonavailable dependencies would be changed from

  Not available: 
  
to

  Missing dependencies: ...
  
Günter

Re: Beta plans (again)

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Le 2 août 10 à 20:57, Stephan Witt a écrit :
I'm a little bit sorrowful that the native spell checker is not fast  
enough for continuously checking when doing it word-wise.

So we are not ready to switch off aspell :(

Currently I have no time to improve the situation.


I do not manage to get the native spellchecker to work. The situation  
is that I do not use the

binary-release.sh script, but only the plain configure script.

I found that I have to set MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET and SDKROOT before  
running make. I plan to
eventually move this to configure.ac (the idea is that plan configure  
should be enough in general,

and the full script is for packagers)

The situation I am in is that no language seems to be recognized. For  
example, in hasLanguageAppleSpeller,

 [speller->checker availableLanguages] returns an empty list.

Do you have an idea about what could be the cause?

I am on Leopard (10.5), BTW.

JMarc

PS:

Gino: echo $MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET
10.4
Gino: echo $SDKROOT
/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.5.sdk