Re: [Important] New behavior for spam handling on this list

2022-03-09 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

Le 09/03/2022 à 17:58, Scott Kostyshak a écrit :

Thank you for dealing with that! It sounds like a true pain.


It is indeed. And the service is not good, since lyx-devel and lyx-users 
messages from non-members are just discarded.



I wanted to apply the spam filtering only to non-members, but this is not
possible with mailman (at least only globally).


I imagine it is also not possible to check PGP signatures?


I would be surprised that mailman can do that.

JMarc

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Re: [Important] New behavior for spam handling on this list

2022-03-09 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Wed, Mar 09, 2022 at 04:57:32PM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> 
> Dear all,
> 
> Until now, the handling of the lists was like:
> 
> * lyx-devel and lyx-users were set to automatically reject non-members
> * the other list would put the messages on hold, so that I had to have a
> look at all the moderated mails (~80 spams and sometimes a message) daily.

Thank you for dealing with that! It sounds like a true pain.

> I wanted to apply the spam filtering only to non-members, but this is not
> possible with mailman (at least only globally).

I imagine it is also not possible to check PGP signatures?

Scott


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[Important] New behavior for spam handling on this list

2022-03-09 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes



Dear all,

Until now, the handling of the lists was like:

* lyx-devel and lyx-users were set to automatically reject non-members
* the other list would put the messages on hold, so that I had to have a 
look at all the moderated mails (~80 spams and sometimes a message) daily.


Now that I have been made aware (by the OSUOSL people) that there is 
actually a X-Spam-Flag header we can rely on, I am trying something new 
on this list:


- members can post as usual;
- spams are automatically discarded; please notify the list if a message 
of yours just disappears. I decided to only apply the changes to 
lyx-devel because it is easier to experiment here;

- remaining non-member posts are held for moderation.

I am not sure here whether I should reject or discard mail. What I am 
wary of is that a real message could be silently mistaken for spam.
This is why I wanted to use reject, but OTOH it adds useless traffic and 
creates the risk of having us marked as a spam source.


I wanted to apply the spam filtering only to non-members, but this is 
not possible with mailman (at least only globally).


Comments welcome.

JMarc
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