Re: Bug #2
On 24-Jul-2001 Andre Poenitz wrote: from my point of view and it's a one of user, who writes a lot of stuff with lyx, it's absolutely not important if the lyx-file makes sense. I'm interested in a good latex output and in an easy way to work with lyx ... And it is intolerable if 1.2.0 does not read proper 1.1.6 files for that matter. Code cleanup is nice. But there are other thing to take into account. I agree with this 100% we have to be 100% compatible with 1.1.6 in reading files! Jürgen -- -._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._ Dr. Jürgen VignaE-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Italienallee 13/N Tel/Fax: +39-0471-450260 / +39-0471-450253 I-39100 Bozen Web: http://www.sad.it/~jug -._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._ /earth is 98% full ... please delete anyone you can.
Re: Bug #2
On 25-Jul-2001 Herbert Voss wrote: Mike Ressler wrote: In the docs for version 1.2.0, I shall simply remove the floatflt discussion unless it is reimplemented in time. And maybe add a note to that effect in the FAQ ... good idea! but the problem is still the same: what is with the lyx-files and floatflt paragraphs, when reading with 1.2.0? Nope IMO we cannot release a 1.2.0 if this is not properly fixed. I will not agree with releasing it anyway (if that helps something). Jürgen -- -._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._ Dr. Jürgen VignaE-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Italienallee 13/N Tel/Fax: +39-0471-450260 / +39-0471-450253 I-39100 Bozen Web: http://www.sad.it/~jug -._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._ One possible reason that things aren't going according to plan is that there never was a plan in the first place.
Re: Bug #2
Nope IMO we cannot release a 1.2.0 if this is not properly fixed. I will not agree with releasing it anyway (if that helps something). Make that two. My personal _minimum_ requirement is correct reading of 1.1.5 and 1.1.6 generated .lyx. (down to 1.0.4 would be nice, though...) Andre' -- André Pönitz . [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug #2
On 25-Jul-2001 Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: | My personal _minimum_ requirement is correct reading of 1.1.5 and 1.1.6 | generated .lyx. (down to 1.0.4 would be nice, though...) 1.1.6 is really the one we care about. Nope! A lot of people didn't change to 1.1.6 because of the known problems, so we HAVE to care for 1.1.5 too! Jürgen -- -._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._ Dr. Jürgen VignaE-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Italienallee 13/N Tel/Fax: +39-0471-450260 / +39-0471-450253 I-39100 Bozen Web: http://www.sad.it/~jug -._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._ The sooner you fall behind, the more time you have to catch up.
Re: Bug #2
1.1.6 is really the one we care about. I know a few people that stick to 1.1.5 due to the table format changes. Andre' -- André Pönitz . [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug #2
Juergen Vigna wrote: On 25-Jul-2001 Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: | My personal _minimum_ requirement is correct reading of 1.1.5 and 1.1.6 | generated .lyx. (down to 1.0.4 would be nice, though...) 1.1.6 is really the one we care about. Nope! A lot of people didn't change to 1.1.6 because of the known problems, so we HAVE to care for 1.1.5 too! ye!!! remember that you always said, that users should think about using 1.1.6, in fact od the new file format! Herbert -- http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/
Re: Bug #2
Because of the format changes? Why do they care about that? Larger LyX files? Interoperability. You cannot upgrade as long as a single member in the team is using 1.1.5. And upgrading out of sync with the one-year-general- distribution-upgrade-cycle is usually not an option for ordinary users in restricted environments. So a lag of a year or two is normal. From what I can see, Konni e.g. currently has three LyX's around (1.1.5fixsomething, 1.1.6fix2 and yesterday's CVS). The first for work, the second for playing around and waiting for the next fix, and the third to generate mathed bug reports... And you can believe me: installing 1.1.6 alone was non-trivial (no root, not much space) Andre' -- André Pönitz . [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug #2
On 25-Jul-2001 Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: | I know a few people that stick to 1.1.5 due to the table format changes. Because of the format changes? Why do they care about that? Larger LyX files? Maybe because they cannot switch back to the (for them) working version? Jürgen -- -._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._ Dr. Jürgen VignaE-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Italienallee 13/N Tel/Fax: +39-0471-450260 / +39-0471-450253 I-39100 Bozen Web: http://www.sad.it/~jug -._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._ The way to make a small fortune in the commodities market is to start with a large fortune.
Re: Bug #2
On Wed, Jul 25, 2001 at 12:23:54PM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: Because of the format changes? Why do they care about that? Larger LyX files? Interoperability. You cannot upgrade as long as a single member in the team is using 1.1.5. And upgrading out of sync with the one-year-general- distribution-upgrade-cycle is usually not an option for ordinary users in restricted environments. So a lag of a year or two is normal. this is one reason why we need lyxfile converters, probably as an external script of some language, that work both ways. Surely it can't be that hard. (Things would be easier if we had an XML format here ...) john -- I have been a soreheaded occupant of a file drawer labeled 'Science Fiction' ... and I would like out, particularly since so many serious critics regularly mistake the drawer for a urinal. - Kurt Vonnegut
Re: Bug #2
On 24-Jul-2001 Andre Poenitz wrote: >> from my point of view and it's a one of user, who writes >> a lot of stuff with lyx, it's absolutely not important if the >> lyx-file makes sense. I'm interested in a good latex output >> and in an easy way to work with lyx ... > > And it is intolerable if 1.2.0 does not read proper 1.1.6 files > for that matter. Code cleanup is nice. But there are other thing to take > into account. I agree with this 100% we have to be 100% compatible with 1.1.6 in reading files! Jürgen -- -._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._ Dr. Jürgen VignaE-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Italienallee 13/N Tel/Fax: +39-0471-450260 / +39-0471-450253 I-39100 Bozen Web: http://www.sad.it/~jug -._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._ /earth is 98% full ... please delete anyone you can.
Re: Bug #2
On 25-Jul-2001 Herbert Voss wrote: > Mike Ressler wrote: >> >> In the docs for version 1.2.0, I shall simply remove the floatflt >> discussion unless it is reimplemented in time. And maybe add a note to >> that effect in the FAQ ... > > good idea! > but the problem is still the same: what is with the lyx-files > and floatflt "paragraphs", when reading with 1.2.0? Nope IMO we cannot release a 1.2.0 if this is not properly fixed. I will not agree with releasing it anyway (if that helps something). Jürgen -- -._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._ Dr. Jürgen VignaE-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Italienallee 13/N Tel/Fax: +39-0471-450260 / +39-0471-450253 I-39100 Bozen Web: http://www.sad.it/~jug -._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._ One possible reason that things aren't going according to plan is that there never was a plan in the first place.
Re: Bug #2
> Nope IMO we cannot release a 1.2.0 if this is not properly fixed. I will > not agree with releasing it anyway (if that helps something). Make that two. My personal _minimum_ requirement is correct reading of 1.1.5 and 1.1.6 generated .lyx. (down to 1.0.4 would be nice, though...) Andre' -- André Pönitz . [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug #2
On 25-Jul-2001 Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: >| My personal _minimum_ requirement is correct reading of 1.1.5 and 1.1.6 >| generated .lyx. (down to 1.0.4 would be nice, though...) > > 1.1.6 is really the one we care about. Nope! A lot of people didn't change to 1.1.6 because of the known problems, so we HAVE to care for 1.1.5 too! Jürgen -- -._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._ Dr. Jürgen VignaE-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Italienallee 13/N Tel/Fax: +39-0471-450260 / +39-0471-450253 I-39100 Bozen Web: http://www.sad.it/~jug -._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._ The sooner you fall behind, the more time you have to catch up.
Re: Bug #2
> 1.1.6 is really the one we care about. I know a few people that stick to 1.1.5 due to the table format changes. Andre' -- André Pönitz . [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug #2
Juergen Vigna wrote: > > On 25-Jul-2001 Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > > >| My personal _minimum_ requirement is correct reading of 1.1.5 and 1.1.6 > >| generated .lyx. (down to 1.0.4 would be nice, though...) > > > > 1.1.6 is really the one we care about. > > Nope! A lot of people didn't change to 1.1.6 because of the known problems, > so we HAVE to care for 1.1.5 too! ye!!! remember that you always said, that users should think about using 1.1.6, in fact od the new file format! Herbert -- http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/
Re: Bug #2
> Because of the format changes? Why do they care about that? Larger LyX > files? Interoperability. You cannot upgrade as long as a single member in the team is using 1.1.5. And upgrading out of sync with the one-year-general- distribution-upgrade-cycle is usually not an option for "ordinary users" in restricted environments. So a lag of a year or two is "normal". >From what I can see, Konni e.g. currently has three LyX's around (1.1.5fixsomething, 1.1.6fix2 and yesterday's CVS). The first for work, the second for playing around and waiting for the next fix, and the third to generate mathed bug reports... And you can believe me: installing 1.1.6 alone was non-trivial (no root, not much space) Andre' -- André Pönitz . [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug #2
On 25-Jul-2001 Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: >| I know a few people that stick to 1.1.5 due to the table format changes. > > Because of the format changes? Why do they care about that? Larger LyX > files? Maybe because they cannot switch back to the (for them) working version? Jürgen -- -._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._ Dr. Jürgen VignaE-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Italienallee 13/N Tel/Fax: +39-0471-450260 / +39-0471-450253 I-39100 Bozen Web: http://www.sad.it/~jug -._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._ The way to make a small fortune in the commodities market is to start with a large fortune.
Re: Bug #2
On Wed, Jul 25, 2001 at 12:23:54PM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: > > Because of the format changes? Why do they care about that? Larger LyX > > files? > > Interoperability. You cannot upgrade as long as a single member in the > team is using 1.1.5. And upgrading out of sync with the one-year-general- > distribution-upgrade-cycle is usually not an option for "ordinary users" in > restricted environments. So a lag of a year or two is "normal". this is one reason why we need lyxfile converters, probably as an external script of some language, that work both ways. Surely it can't be that hard. (Things would be easier if we had an XML format here ...) john -- "I have been a soreheaded occupant of a file drawer labeled 'Science Fiction' ... and I would like out, particularly since so many serious critics regularly mistake the drawer for a urinal." - Kurt Vonnegut
Re: Bug #2
On 24-Jul-2001 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Is it possible to reintroduce floatflt in another form? And also indented paragraphs! Jürgen -- -._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._ Dr. Jürgen VignaE-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Italienallee 13/N Tel/Fax: +39-0471-450260 / +39-0471-450253 I-39100 Bozen Web: http://www.sad.it/~jug -._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._ To save a single life is better than to build a seven story pagoda.
Re: Bug #2
Hi, just to make it clear: _I_ am not using floatflt - at least not conciously (actually I don't even know what it is). I justed noticed that Extended.lyx is using it. Maybe the easiest way is to patch the documentation file by hand and wait and see how many people are complaining about 1.2.0... Michael -- == Michael Schmittphone: +49 451 500 3725 Institute for Telematics secretary: +49 451 500 3721 Medical University of Luebeck fax: +49 451 500 3722 Ratzeburger Allee 160 eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] D-23538 Luebeck, Germany WWW: http://www.itm.mu-luebeck.de ==
Re: Bug #2
Juergen Vigna wrote: On 24-Jul-2001 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Is it possible to reintroduce floatflt in another form? And also indented paragraphs! why this? Herbert -- http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/
Re: Bug #2
On 24-Jul-2001 Herbert Voss wrote: And also indented paragraphs! why this? Well I introduced this as I thought it a good idea and used it in quite a lot of documents. The feature was to be able to indent a whole paragraph by a defined Lenght, so that I can do something like this dfasd as dfa sdf asd fasdf dsfasd f asdf as dfa sdf asd (2cm) dfa sdf asd fa sdf asd sd fas dfa sdf asd fa sd df sd fa sdf asd fa sdf sd d d fa sd fas d fa sdf as df asd (4cm)df asdf asd fa sd df asd fasd f asd But Lars decided it is not nice and just removed support for it without backward compatibility so people using this feature (as floatflt) just cannot convert their documents to something assimilating the lookfeel from before :( Jürgen -- -._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._ Dr. Jürgen VignaE-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Italienallee 13/N Tel/Fax: +39-0471-450260 / +39-0471-450253 I-39100 Bozen Web: http://www.sad.it/~jug -._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._ Why can't we ever attempt to solve a problem in this country without having a 'War' on it? -- Rich Thomson, talk.politics.misc
Re: Bug #2
On Tue, Jul 24, 2001 at 10:58:52AM +0200, Michael Schmitt wrote: Hi, just to make it clear: _I_ am not using floatflt - at least not conciously (actually I don't even know what it is). I justed noticed that Extended.lyx is using it. actually lyxdocs is proving to be a pretty good test of 1.2.0. There are some rather glaring problems. Try the minipage section of Extended.lyx for one ... john -- Voodoo Programming: Things programmers do that they know shouldn't work but they try anyway, and which sometimes actually work, such as recompiling everything. - Karl Lehenbauer
Re: Bug #2
| rather glaring problems. Try the minipage section of Extended.lyx for one ... I did have a look at that some time ago... and if I remember correctly, the minipage useage there was at fault. (i.e. not used correctly). that was one problem with the old minipage support, it was possible to do it incorrect. Minipages are pretty unusable right now. Have a look at http://mathematik.htwm.de/tmp/sfbposter.1.1.6.lyx for an example file that was created and works under 1.1.6fix2 Andre' -- André Pönitz . [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug #2
It is very easy to use the 1.1.6 minipages _wrong_, and it just happens to work... but is still incorrect. So what is the proper way to use minipages in 1.1.6 in a 'forward compatible' way? And Minipages are usable! it is the conversion that has some problems (with faulty code) ? Which conversion? Andre' -- André Pönitz . [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug #2
Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: Andre Poenitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | | rather glaring problems. Try the minipage section of Extended.lyx for one ... | | I did have a look at that some time ago... and if I remember | correctly, the minipage useage there was at fault. (i.e. not used | correctly). that was one problem with the old minipage support, it was | possible to do it incorrect. | | Minipages are pretty unusable right now. Have a look at | | http://mathematik.htwm.de/tmp/sfbposter.1.1.6.lyx | | for an example file that was created and works under 1.1.6fix2 It is very easy to use the 1.1.6 minipages _wrong_, and it just happens to work... but is still incorrect. aeh, do you want to say, that latex let's you define via lyx minipages in a wrong way?? ;-) Herbert -- http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/
Re: Bug #2
Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: | | It is very easy to use the 1.1.6 minipages _wrong_, and it just | happens to work... but is still incorrect. | | aeh, do you want to say, that latex let's you define via lyx | minipages in a wrong way?? ;-) No... it lets you create a lyx files that does not really make sense. from my point of view and it's a one of user, who writes a lot of stuff with lyx, it's absolutely not important if the lyx-file makes sense. I'm interested in a good latex output and in an easy way to work with lyx ... Herbert -- http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/
Re: Bug #2
from my point of view and it's a one of user, who writes a lot of stuff with lyx, it's absolutely not important if the lyx-file makes sense. I'm interested in a good latex output and in an easy way to work with lyx ... And it is intolerable if 1.2.0 does not read proper 1.1.6 files for that matter. Code cleanup is nice. But there are other thing to take into account. Andre' -- André Pönitz . [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug #2
In the docs for version 1.2.0, I shall simply remove the floatflt discussion unless it is reimplemented in time. And maybe add a note to that effect in the FAQ ... Mike -- Mike Ressler [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK, I'm lame: I don't have my own website ...
Re: Bug #2
Mike Ressler wrote: In the docs for version 1.2.0, I shall simply remove the floatflt discussion unless it is reimplemented in time. And maybe add a note to that effect in the FAQ ... good idea! but the problem is still the same: what is with the lyx-files and floatflt paragraphs, when reading with 1.2.0? Herbert -- http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/
Re: Bug #2
On 24-Jul-2001 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Is it possible to reintroduce floatflt in another form? And also indented paragraphs! Jürgen -- -._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._ Dr. Jürgen VignaE-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Italienallee 13/N Tel/Fax: +39-0471-450260 / +39-0471-450253 I-39100 Bozen Web: http://www.sad.it/~jug -._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._ To save a single life is better than to build a seven story pagoda.
Re: Bug #2
Hi, just to make it clear: _I_ am not using floatflt - at least not conciously (actually I don't even know what it is). I justed noticed that "Extended.lyx" is using it. Maybe the easiest way is to patch the documentation file by hand and wait and see how many people are complaining about 1.2.0... Michael -- == Michael Schmittphone: +49 451 500 3725 Institute for Telematics secretary: +49 451 500 3721 Medical University of Luebeck fax: +49 451 500 3722 Ratzeburger Allee 160 eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] D-23538 Luebeck, Germany WWW: http://www.itm.mu-luebeck.de ==
Re: Bug #2
Juergen Vigna wrote: > > On 24-Jul-2001 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > > Is it possible to reintroduce floatflt in another form? > > And also indented paragraphs! why this? Herbert -- http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/
Re: Bug #2
On 24-Jul-2001 Herbert Voss wrote: >> And also indented paragraphs! > > why this? Well I introduced this as I thought it a good idea and used it in quite a lot of documents. The feature was to be able to indent a whole paragraph by a defined Lenght, so that I can do something like this dfasd as dfa sdf asd fasdf dsfasd f asdf as dfa sdf asd (2cm) dfa sdf asd fa sdf asd sd fas dfa sdf asd fa sd df sd fa sdf asd fa sdf sd d d fa sd fas d fa sdf as df asd (4cm)df asdf asd fa sd df asd fasd f asd But Lars decided it is not nice and just removed support for it without backward compatibility so people using this feature (as floatflt) just cannot convert their documents to something assimilating the look from before :( Jürgen -- -._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._ Dr. Jürgen VignaE-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Italienallee 13/N Tel/Fax: +39-0471-450260 / +39-0471-450253 I-39100 Bozen Web: http://www.sad.it/~jug -._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._ "Why can't we ever attempt to solve a problem in this country without having a 'War' on it?" -- Rich Thomson, talk.politics.misc
Re: Bug #2
On Tue, Jul 24, 2001 at 10:58:52AM +0200, Michael Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > just to make it clear: _I_ am not using floatflt - at least not > conciously (actually I don't even know what it is). I justed noticed that > "Extended.lyx" is using it. actually lyxdocs is proving to be a pretty good test of 1.2.0. There are some rather glaring problems. Try the minipage section of Extended.lyx for one ... john -- "Voodoo Programming: Things programmers do that they know shouldn't work but they try anyway, and which sometimes actually work, such as recompiling everything." - Karl Lehenbauer
Re: Bug #2
> | rather glaring problems. Try the minipage section of Extended.lyx for one ... > > I did have a look at that some time ago... and if I remember > correctly, the minipage useage there was at fault. (i.e. not used > correctly). that was one problem with the old minipage support, it was > possible to do it incorrect. Minipages are pretty unusable right now. Have a look at http://mathematik.htwm.de/tmp/sfbposter.1.1.6.lyx for an example file that was created and works under 1.1.6fix2 Andre' -- André Pönitz . [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug #2
> It is very easy to use the 1.1.6 minipages _wrong_, and it just > happens to work... but is still incorrect. So what is the proper way to use minipages in 1.1.6 in a 'forward compatible' way? > And Minipages are usable! it is the conversion that has some problems > (with faulty code) ? Which conversion? Andre' -- André Pönitz . [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug #2
Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > > Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > | > | rather glaring problems. Try the minipage section of Extended.lyx for one ... > | > > | > I did have a look at that some time ago... and if I remember > | > correctly, the minipage useage there was at fault. (i.e. not used > | > correctly). that was one problem with the old minipage support, it was > | > possible to do it incorrect. > | > | Minipages are pretty unusable right now. Have a look at > | > | http://mathematik.htwm.de/tmp/sfbposter.1.1.6.lyx > | > | for an example file that was created and works under 1.1.6fix2 > > It is very easy to use the 1.1.6 minipages _wrong_, and it just > happens to work... but is still incorrect. aeh, do you want to say, that latex let's you define via lyx minipages in a wrong way?? ;-) Herbert -- http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/
Re: Bug #2
Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > > | > > | > It is very easy to use the 1.1.6 minipages _wrong_, and it just > | > happens to work... but is still incorrect. > | > | aeh, do you want to say, that latex let's you define via lyx > | minipages in a wrong way?? ;-) > > No... it lets you create a lyx files that does not really make sense. from my point of view and it's a one of user, who writes a lot of stuff with lyx, it's absolutely not important if the lyx-file makes sense. I'm interested in a good latex output and in an easy way to work with lyx ... Herbert -- http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/
Re: Bug #2
> from my point of view and it's a one of user, who writes > a lot of stuff with lyx, it's absolutely not important if the > lyx-file makes sense. I'm interested in a good latex output > and in an easy way to work with lyx ... And it is intolerable if 1.2.0 does not read proper 1.1.6 files for that matter. Code cleanup is nice. But there are other thing to take into account. Andre' -- André Pönitz . [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug #2
In the docs for version 1.2.0, I shall simply remove the floatflt discussion unless it is reimplemented in time. And maybe add a note to that effect in the FAQ ... Mike -- Mike Ressler [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK, I'm lame: I don't have my own website ...
Re: Bug #2
Mike Ressler wrote: > > In the docs for version 1.2.0, I shall simply remove the floatflt > discussion unless it is reimplemented in time. And maybe add a note to > that effect in the FAQ ... good idea! but the problem is still the same: what is with the lyx-files and floatflt "paragraphs", when reading with 1.2.0? Herbert -- http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/
Bug #2
Hi, I cannot export file Extended.lyx of LyX 1.1.6 to dvi format. It seems like there is a problem with these new ERT insets. Could somebody please check whether this is a real bug or just a problem with my configuration? Michael -- == Michael Schmittphone: +49 451 500 3725 Institute for Telematics secretary: +49 451 500 3721 Medical University of Luebeck fax: +49 451 500 3722 Ratzeburger Allee 160 eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] D-23538 Luebeck, Germany WWW: http://www.itm.mu-luebeck.de ==
Re: Bug #2
Mike Ressler wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, Michael Schmitt wrote:
I cannot export file Extended.lyx of LyX 1.1.6 to dvi format. It
seems like there is a problem with these new ERT insets. Could somebody
please check whether this is a real bug or just a problem with my
configuration?
I had this very problem about an hour ago and the general problem is
that the floatflt paragraph option is not honored.
\usepackage{floatflt} is missing in preamble of the generated
tex-file
The first sign of trouble is that when I load Extended into 1.2.0cvs I get
a textclass loading error which says Couldn't set the layout for 7
paragraphs.
this are the 7 \layout latex, which are now not possible in 1.2.0
Then going to Section 1.8.3, the mobius figure is displayed,
but if I pop up Layout-Paragraph, there is no Extra page to be seen,
and this is where the floatflt option is supposed to be set. Now this
wouldn't be noticeable by itself, but later on, in Section 5.3, I use some
ERT to call some floatflt commands, but since it wasn't loaded
automatically in 1.8.3, it is not available for the ERT in 5.3.
see above.
another curious behaviours:
-can't jump to error mark with ctrl-g
-can't mark text in preamble with left mouse button
Herbert
--
http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/
Re: Bug #2
On Mon, Jul 23, 2001 at 08:49:41PM +0200, Herbert Voss wrote: The first sign of trouble is that when I load Extended into 1.2.0cvs I get a textclass loading error which says Couldn't set the layout for 7 paragraphs. this are the 7 \layout latex, which are now not possible in 1.2.0 ... so I suppose these must be converted into insetert -can't mark text in preamble with left mouse button I've just sent a patch for this. john -- Voodoo Programming: Things programmers do that they know shouldn't work but they try anyway, and which sometimes actually work, such as recompiling everything. - Karl Lehenbauer
Re: Bug #2
Michael Schmitt wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, Mike Ressler wrote:
I had this very problem about an hour ago and the general problem is
that the floatflt paragraph option is not honored.
The first sign of trouble is that when I load Extended into 1.2.0cvs I get
a textclass loading error which says Couldn't set the layout for 7
paragraphs. Then going to Section 1.8.3, the mobius figure is displayed,
but if I pop up Layout-Paragraph, there is no Extra page to be seen,
and this is where the floatflt option is supposed to be set. Now this
wouldn't be noticeable by itself, but later on, in Section 5.3, I use some
ERT to call some floatflt commands, but since it wasn't loaded
automatically in 1.8.3, it is not available for the ERT in 5.3.
Hmmm, that means the current cvs is unusable unless it is my intention
to corrupt my PhD (the file format has changed recently such there is no
way back). I hope this problem (and the problem with notes) will be
fixed soon.
write in preamble \usepackage{floatflt} and all should work
Herbert
--
http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/
Re: Bug #2
On Mon, Jul 23, 2001 at 08:49:41PM +0200, Herbert Voss wrote: -can't jump to error mark with ctrl-g hmm, works OK for me john -- Voodoo Programming: Things programmers do that they know shouldn't work but they try anyway, and which sometimes actually work, such as recompiling everything. - Karl Lehenbauer
Re: Bug #2
John Levon wrote: On Mon, Jul 23, 2001 at 08:49:41PM +0200, Herbert Voss wrote: The first sign of trouble is that when I load Extended into 1.2.0cvs I get a textclass loading error which says Couldn't set the layout for 7 paragraphs. this are the 7 \layout latex, which are now not possible in 1.2.0 ... so I suppose these must be converted into insetert -can't mark text in preamble with left mouse button sorry, but this was the known behaviour with xforms and read-only-files ... same with ctrl-g Herbert -- http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/
Re: Bug #2
On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, Herbert Voss wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, Mike Ressler wrote:
I had this very problem about an hour ago and the general problem is
that the floatflt paragraph option is not honored.
write in preamble \usepackage{floatflt} and all should work
This is a band-aid for a much more serious problem. Yes, it will work, but
the problem is that the extra paragraph options disappeared since 1.1.6!
They don't even show up in the GUI. Some big chunk of code was deleted,
#ifdef'ed out, or something. The current CVS is just plain broken and
needs to be fixed!
Mike
--
Mike Ressler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
OK, I'm lame: I don't have my own website ...
Re: Bug #2
Mike Ressler wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, Herbert Voss wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, Mike Ressler wrote:
I had this very problem about an hour ago and the general problem is
that the floatflt paragraph option is not honored.
write in preamble \usepackage{floatflt} and all should work
This is a band-aid for a much more serious problem. Yes, it will work, but
the problem is that the extra paragraph options disappeared since 1.1.6!
They don't even show up in the GUI. Some big chunk of code was deleted,
#ifdef'ed out, or something. The current CVS is just plain broken and
needs to be fixed!
this was only for Michael's PhD! nothing else ... ;-)
Herbert
--
http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/
Re: Bug #2
On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, Herbert Voss wrote: Mike Ressler wrote: This is a band-aid for a much more serious problem. Yes, it will work, but this was only for Michael's PhD! nothing else ... ;-) Of course. Sorry if it sounded like I jumped on you. I was just rather shocked to find that a whole GUI panel, and it's functionality, seems to have disappeared. Mike -- Mike Ressler [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK, I'm lame: I don't have my own website ...
Re: Bug #2 (new: minipage bug report)
On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, Mike Ressler wrote: Oh, cool. The minipage thing is definitely better. A quick bug report: if I do side-by-side minifloats and try to put an hfill in between them, the ^^ - minipages, of course ... insets overlap and the hfill is squashed in the middle of them. The DVI output is correct, but the LyX display is messed up. Mike -- Mike Ressler [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK, I'm lame: I don't have my own website ...
Bug #2
Hi, I cannot export file "Extended.lyx" of LyX 1.1.6 to "dvi" format. It seems like there is a problem with these new "ERT" insets. Could somebody please check whether this is a real bug or just a problem with my configuration? Michael -- == Michael Schmittphone: +49 451 500 3725 Institute for Telematics secretary: +49 451 500 3721 Medical University of Luebeck fax: +49 451 500 3722 Ratzeburger Allee 160 eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] D-23538 Luebeck, Germany WWW: http://www.itm.mu-luebeck.de ==
Re: Bug #2
On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, Michael Schmitt wrote: > I cannot export file "Extended.lyx" of LyX 1.1.6 to "dvi" format. It > seems like there is a problem with these new "ERT" insets. Could somebody > please check whether this is a real bug or just a problem with my > configuration? I had this very problem about an hour ago and the general problem is that the "floatflt" paragraph option is not honored. The first sign of trouble is that when I load Extended into 1.2.0cvs I get a textclass loading error which says "Couldn't set the layout for 7 paragraphs". Then going to Section 1.8.3, the mobius figure is displayed, but if I pop up Layout->Paragraph, there is no "Extra" page to be seen, and this is where the floatflt option is supposed to be set. Now this wouldn't be noticeable by itself, but later on, in Section 5.3, I use some ERT to call some floatflt commands, but since it wasn't loaded automatically in 1.8.3, it is not available for the ERT in 5.3. The real problem, I believe, is that the Extra Paragraph Options page has disappeared. (Only "General" appears when Layout->Paragraph is called.) This all works correctly in 1.1.6fix3cvs, but not in today's CVS. Mike -- Mike Ressler [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK, I'm lame: I don't have my own website ...
Re: Bug #2
Mike Ressler wrote:
>
> On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, Michael Schmitt wrote:
> > I cannot export file "Extended.lyx" of LyX 1.1.6 to "dvi" format. It
> > seems like there is a problem with these new "ERT" insets. Could somebody
> > please check whether this is a real bug or just a problem with my
> > configuration?
>
> I had this very problem about an hour ago and the general problem is
> that the "floatflt" paragraph option is not honored.
\usepackage{floatflt} is missing in preamble of the generated
tex-file
> The first sign of trouble is that when I load Extended into 1.2.0cvs I get
> a textclass loading error which says "Couldn't set the layout for 7
> paragraphs".
this are the 7 \layout latex, which are now not possible in 1.2.0
> Then going to Section 1.8.3, the mobius figure is displayed,
> but if I pop up Layout->Paragraph, there is no "Extra" page to be seen,
> and this is where the floatflt option is supposed to be set. Now this
> wouldn't be noticeable by itself, but later on, in Section 5.3, I use some
> ERT to call some floatflt commands, but since it wasn't loaded
> automatically in 1.8.3, it is not available for the ERT in 5.3.
see above.
another curious behaviours:
-can't jump to error mark with ctrl-g
-can't mark text in preamble with left mouse button
Herbert
--
http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/
Re: Bug #2
On Mon, Jul 23, 2001 at 08:49:41PM +0200, Herbert Voss wrote: > > The first sign of trouble is that when I load Extended into 1.2.0cvs I get > > a textclass loading error which says "Couldn't set the layout for 7 > > paragraphs". > > this are the 7 \layout latex, which are now not possible in 1.2.0 ... so I suppose these must be converted into insetert > -can't mark text in preamble with left mouse button I've just sent a patch for this. john -- "Voodoo Programming: Things programmers do that they know shouldn't work but they try anyway, and which sometimes actually work, such as recompiling everything." - Karl Lehenbauer
Re: Bug #2
Michael Schmitt wrote:
>
> On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, Mike Ressler wrote:
>
> > I had this very problem about an hour ago and the general problem is
> > that the "floatflt" paragraph option is not honored.
>
> > The first sign of trouble is that when I load Extended into 1.2.0cvs I get
> > a textclass loading error which says "Couldn't set the layout for 7
> > paragraphs". Then going to Section 1.8.3, the mobius figure is displayed,
> > but if I pop up Layout->Paragraph, there is no "Extra" page to be seen,
> > and this is where the floatflt option is supposed to be set. Now this
> > wouldn't be noticeable by itself, but later on, in Section 5.3, I use some
> > ERT to call some floatflt commands, but since it wasn't loaded
> > automatically in 1.8.3, it is not available for the ERT in 5.3.
>
> Hmmm, that means the current cvs is unusable unless it is my intention
> to corrupt my PhD (the file format has changed recently such there is no
> way back). I hope this problem (and the problem with "notes") will be
> fixed soon.
write in preamble \usepackage{floatflt} and all should work
Herbert
--
http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/
Re: Bug #2
On Mon, Jul 23, 2001 at 08:49:41PM +0200, Herbert Voss wrote: > -can't jump to error mark with ctrl-g hmm, works OK for me john -- "Voodoo Programming: Things programmers do that they know shouldn't work but they try anyway, and which sometimes actually work, such as recompiling everything." - Karl Lehenbauer
Re: Bug #2
John Levon wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2001 at 08:49:41PM +0200, Herbert Voss wrote: > > > > The first sign of trouble is that when I load Extended into 1.2.0cvs I get > > > a textclass loading error which says "Couldn't set the layout for 7 > > > paragraphs". > > > > this are the 7 \layout latex, which are now not possible in 1.2.0 > > ... so I suppose these must be converted into insetert > > > -can't mark text in preamble with left mouse button sorry, but this was the known behaviour with xforms and read-only-files ... same with ctrl-g Herbert -- http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/
Re: Bug #2
On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, Herbert Voss wrote:
> > On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, Mike Ressler wrote:
> >
> > > I had this very problem about an hour ago and the general problem is
> > > that the "floatflt" paragraph option is not honored.
>
> write in preamble \usepackage{floatflt} and all should work
This is a band-aid for a much more serious problem. Yes, it will work, but
the problem is that the extra paragraph options disappeared since 1.1.6!
They don't even show up in the GUI. Some big chunk of code was deleted,
#ifdef'ed out, or something. The current CVS is just plain broken and
needs to be fixed!
Mike
--
Mike Ressler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
OK, I'm lame: I don't have my own website ...
Re: Bug #2
Mike Ressler wrote:
>
> On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, Herbert Voss wrote:
>
> > > On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, Mike Ressler wrote:
> > >
> > > > I had this very problem about an hour ago and the general problem is
> > > > that the "floatflt" paragraph option is not honored.
> >
> > write in preamble \usepackage{floatflt} and all should work
>
> This is a band-aid for a much more serious problem. Yes, it will work, but
> the problem is that the extra paragraph options disappeared since 1.1.6!
> They don't even show up in the GUI. Some big chunk of code was deleted,
> #ifdef'ed out, or something. The current CVS is just plain broken and
> needs to be fixed!
this was only for Michael's PhD! nothing else ... ;-)
Herbert
--
http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/
Re: Bug #2
On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, Herbert Voss wrote: > Mike Ressler wrote: > > This is a band-aid for a much more serious problem. Yes, it will work, but > > this was only for Michael's PhD! nothing else ... ;-) Of course. Sorry if it sounded like I jumped on you. I was just rather shocked to find that a whole GUI panel, and it's functionality, seems to have disappeared. Mike -- Mike Ressler [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK, I'm lame: I don't have my own website ...
Re: Bug #2 (new: minipage bug report)
On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, Mike Ressler wrote: > Oh, cool. The minipage thing is definitely better. A quick bug report: if > I do side-by-side minifloats and try to put an hfill in between them, the ^^ <- minipages, of course ... > insets overlap and the hfill is squashed in the middle of them. The DVI > output is correct, but the LyX display is messed up. Mike -- Mike Ressler [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK, I'm lame: I don't have my own website ...
inseturl bug #2
Now it crashes on a /regular/ url insetad. :P Joacim, tickling ahead - All programmers are playwrights and all computers are lousy actors.
inseturl bug #2
Now it crashes on a /regular/ url insetad. :P Joacim, tickling ahead - All programmers are playwrights and all computers are lousy actors.
