Re: Compiling on Mac OSX 10.6 (Snow Leopard)

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Anders Ekberg a...@mac.com writes:
 Could something like this work?

I am a bit in a hurry, but a few comments on this:

+ ./configure --prefix=/Path/to/LyX.app --disable-concept-checks 
--with-version-suffix=-2.0 --with-qt4-dir=/Path/to/QT4/ 
--enable-optimization=-Os --without-x --with-included-gettext 
--with-frontend=qt4 --disable-stdlib-debug --without-aspell --without-pspell 
--disable-shared --enable-static --enable-build-type=rel


Cut in parts

  + ./configure --prefix=/Path/to/LyX.app 
  --disable-concept-checks 

Is --disable-concept-checks needed?

  --with-version-suffix=-2.0 --with-qt4-dir=/Path/to/QT4/
  enable-optimization=-Os 

OK

  --without-x 

I think this is not needed.

  --with-included-gettext 

OK

  --with-frontend=qt4 

I think this is not needed.

  --disable-stdlib-debug 

This is implied by build-type=rel

  --without-aspell --without-pspell 

This is not needed if you do not have the relevant libraries installed

  --disable-shared --enable-static 

This has no effect in trunk since we do not use libtool anymore.

--enable-build-type=rel

Note that this is
* not needed with a normal release (it is the default)
* not always wanted with a 1.x.ysvn release, since it disables debug
options.

This only make sense when one wants to compile a development version as
if it were a stable one, e.g. for a normal use who follows the stable
branch. With trunk, I'd advise against turning off all debug features,
except in the important case where one wants to do profiling.

JMarc

Re: Compiling on Mac OSX 10.6 (Snow Leopard)

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Anders Ekberg  writes:
> Could something like this work?

I am a bit in a hurry, but a few comments on this:

+ ./configure --prefix=/Path/to/LyX.app --disable-concept-checks 
--with-version-suffix=-2.0 --with-qt4-dir=/Path/to/QT4/ 
--enable-optimization=-Os --without-x --with-included-gettext 
--with-frontend=qt4 --disable-stdlib-debug --without-aspell --without-pspell 
--disable-shared --enable-static --enable-build-type=rel


Cut in parts

  + ./configure --prefix=/Path/to/LyX.app 
  --disable-concept-checks 

Is --disable-concept-checks needed?

  --with-version-suffix=-2.0 --with-qt4-dir=/Path/to/QT4/
  enable-optimization=-Os 

OK

  --without-x 

I think this is not needed.

  --with-included-gettext 

OK

  --with-frontend=qt4 

I think this is not needed.

  --disable-stdlib-debug 

This is implied by build-type=rel

  --without-aspell --without-pspell 

This is not needed if you do not have the relevant libraries installed

  --disable-shared --enable-static 

This has no effect in trunk since we do not use libtool anymore.

--enable-build-type=rel

Note that this is
* not needed with a normal release (it is the default)
* not always wanted with a 1.x.ysvn release, since it disables debug
options.

This only make sense when one wants to compile a development version as
if it were a stable one, e.g. for a normal use who follows the stable
branch. With trunk, I'd advise against turning off all debug features,
except in the important case where one wants to do profiling.

JMarc

Re: Compiling on Mac OSX 10.6 (Snow Leopard)

[BH]

On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org wrote:
 Anders Ekberg wrote:
 (most notably --enable-optimization=-O2  --disable-debug
 are good for non debuging purposes).

 pavel

 Could something like this work?

 looks good, except the --enable-optimization=-Os part. firstly O2 is better
 imho, secondly you already request O2 by calling --enable-build-type=rel and
 maybe some other switches too. i can commit it if there are no objection from
 other mac people around.

Sorry -- as I said in another thread, I've been swamped and unable to
follow snow leopard problems/developments. So don't wait on me

BH

Re: Compiling on Mac OSX 10.6 (Snow Leopard)

[BH]

On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Pavel Sanda  wrote:
> Anders Ekberg wrote:
>>> (most notably --enable-optimization=-O2  --disable-debug
>>> are good for non debuging purposes).
>>>
>>> pavel
>>
>> Could something like this work?
>
> looks good, except the --enable-optimization=-Os part. firstly O2 is better
> imho, secondly you already request O2 by calling --enable-build-type=rel and
> maybe some other switches too. i can commit it if there are no objection from
> other mac people around.

Sorry -- as I said in another thread, I've been swamped and unable to
follow snow leopard problems/developments. So don't wait on me

BH

Re: Compiling on Mac OSX 10.6 (Snow Leopard)

[Anders Ekberg]

On 18 okt 2009, at 21.10, Pavel Sanda wrote:


Anders Ekberg wrote:
could you prepare diff against INSTALL.MacOSX for people using  
10.6 ?

perhaps adding some senction would be enough.

pavel



Sure, I just thought I should get some input from people who  
actually know
C++-compiling so I don't put in too many unnecessary flags. On the  
other

hand maybe that doesn't hurt.


...


I then configured as usual:
./configure --prefix=/Path/to/LyX.app --disable-concept-checks
--with-version-suffix=-$VERSION --with-qt4-dir=/Path/to/QT46b1/
--enable-optimization=-Os --without-x --with-included-gettext
--with-frontend=qt4 --disable-stdlib-debug --without-aspell
--without-pspell --disable-shared --enable-static


this is fine for debuging purposes.
for normal users we should use:
--enable-build-type=rel

(most notably --enable-optimization=-O2  --disable-debug
are good for non debuging purposes).

pavel


Could something like this work?

/Anders



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Re: Compiling on Mac OSX 10.6 (Snow Leopard)

[Pavel Sanda]

Anders Ekberg wrote:
 (most notably --enable-optimization=-O2  --disable-debug
 are good for non debuging purposes).

 pavel

 Could something like this work?

looks good, except the --enable-optimization=-Os part. firstly O2 is better
imho, secondly you already request O2 by calling --enable-build-type=rel and
maybe some other switches too. i can commit it if there are no objection from
other mac people around.

pavel

Re: Compiling on Mac OSX 10.6 (Snow Leopard)

[Anders Ekberg]

On 18 okt 2009, at 21.10, Pavel Sanda wrote:


Anders Ekberg wrote:
could you prepare diff against INSTALL.MacOSX for people using  
10.6 ?

perhaps adding some senction would be enough.

pavel



Sure, I just thought I should get some input from people who  
actually know
C++-compiling so I don't put in too many unnecessary flags. On the  
other

hand maybe that doesn't hurt.


...


I then configured as usual:
./configure --prefix=/Path/to/LyX.app --disable-concept-checks
--with-version-suffix=-$VERSION --with-qt4-dir=/Path/to/QT46b1/
--enable-optimization=-Os --without-x --with-included-gettext
--with-frontend=qt4 --disable-stdlib-debug --without-aspell
--without-pspell --disable-shared --enable-static


this is fine for debuging purposes.
for normal users we should use:
--enable-build-type=rel

(most notably --enable-optimization=-O2  --disable-debug
are good for non debuging purposes).

pavel


Could something like this work?

/Anders



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Re: Compiling on Mac OSX 10.6 (Snow Leopard)

[Pavel Sanda]

Anders Ekberg wrote:
>> (most notably --enable-optimization=-O2  --disable-debug
>> are good for non debuging purposes).
>>
>> pavel
>
> Could something like this work?

looks good, except the --enable-optimization=-Os part. firstly O2 is better
imho, secondly you already request O2 by calling --enable-build-type=rel and
maybe some other switches too. i can commit it if there are no objection from
other mac people around.

pavel

Compiling on Mac OSX 10.6 (Snow Leopard)

[Anders Ekberg]

Hi all,

I have just upgraded to 10.6 and thought I shared some experiences on  
compiling:


For Qt you need the 4.6.0-beta1 version (4.5 might work, but 10.6  
seems to be only partially supported; also, if we look cross-platform,  
I think 4.6 is needed for Windows 7). Download from:

http://get.qt.nokia.com/qt/source/
(the location in INSTALL.MacOSX doesn't work anymore)
The default for Qt seems to be to compile for 32 bits (which is  
causing complications later on). I tried to get it to compile for 64  
bits, but it failed (it takes a looong time to compile Qt, so I didn't  
give it many tries).


Instead I compiled LyX for 32 bits by the adding following flags  
before compiling (I'm completely clueless as for C++ compilations, so  
several of these may well be obsolete)

export CPPFLAGS=-arch i386
export CCFLAGS=-arch i386
export CFLAGS=-arch i386
export LDFLAGS=-framework Carbon -framework OpenGL -framework AGL - 
framework QuickTime -lz -framework Cocoa -arch i386


In relation to INSTALL.MacOSX the -lz ld-flag is added. I think it I  
included it in my script based on some previous discussions. Does  
anyone know if it is needed?


I then configured as usual:
./configure --prefix=/Path/to/LyX.app --disable-concept-checks --with- 
version-suffix=-$VERSION --with-qt4-dir=/Path/to/QT46b1/ --enable- 
optimization=-Os --without-x --with-included-gettext --with- 
frontend=qt4 --disable-stdlib-debug --without-aspell --without-pspell  
--disable-shared --enable-static


Difference compared to INSTALL.MacOSX:
--disable-concept-checks
--without-x
--with-frontend=qt4
--disable-stdlib-debug
--without-aspell
--without-pspell
--disable-shared
--enable-static
I did probably have some reason to add them (the chance that I came up  
with them by myself is non-existant ;-) I think some had to do with  
creating release binaries. Does the INSTALL.MacOSX need to be updated?


There is one final important thing to do: I had to swap the source  
code and download it from scratch. (For 1.6 and 2.0 that is

svn co svn://svn.lyx.org/lyx/lyx-devel/trunk lyx-devel
and
svn co svn://svn.lyx.org/lyx/lyx-devel/branches/BRANCH_1_6_X lyx-16x
respectively)

So now both 1.6 and 2.0 run like a charm. The same compilation  
instructions were used for both. This bodes well for future Qt  
upgrades for LyX I think. Note however that they are intel only. The  
crash bug at backup is still there, but deselecting the choice of  
backup copies works.


All the best!
Anders

Re: Compiling on Mac OSX 10.6 (Snow Leopard)

[Pavel Sanda]

Anders Ekberg wrote:
 So now both 1.6 and 2.0 run like a charm. The same compilation instructions 
 were used for both. This bodes well for future Qt upgrades for LyX I think. 
 Note however that they are intel only. The crash bug at backup is still 
 there, but deselecting the choice of backup copies works.

could you prepare diff against INSTALL.MacOSX for people using 10.6 ?
perhaps adding some senction would be enough.

pavel

Re: Compiling on Mac OSX 10.6 (Snow Leopard)

[Anders Ekberg]

On 18 okt 2009, at 19.40, Pavel Sanda wrote:


Anders Ekberg wrote:
So now both 1.6 and 2.0 run like a charm. The same compilation  
instructions
were used for both. This bodes well for future Qt upgrades for LyX  
I think.
Note however that they are intel only. The crash bug at backup is  
still

there, but deselecting the choice of backup copies works.


could you prepare diff against INSTALL.MacOSX for people using 10.6 ?
perhaps adding some senction would be enough.

pavel



Sure, I just thought I should get some input from people who actually  
know C++-compiling so I don't put in too many unnecessary flags. On  
the other hand maybe that doesn't hurt.


/Anders

Re: Compiling on Mac OSX 10.6 (Snow Leopard)

[Pavel Sanda]

Anders Ekberg wrote:
 could you prepare diff against INSTALL.MacOSX for people using 10.6 ?
 perhaps adding some senction would be enough.

 pavel


 Sure, I just thought I should get some input from people who actually know 
 C++-compiling so I don't put in too many unnecessary flags. On the other 
 hand maybe that doesn't hurt.

...

 I then configured as usual:
 ./configure --prefix=/Path/to/LyX.app --disable-concept-checks 
 --with-version-suffix=-$VERSION --with-qt4-dir=/Path/to/QT46b1/ 
 --enable-optimization=-Os --without-x --with-included-gettext 
 --with-frontend=qt4 --disable-stdlib-debug --without-aspell 
 --without-pspell --disable-shared --enable-static

this is fine for debuging purposes.
for normal users we should use:
--enable-build-type=rel

(most notably --enable-optimization=-O2  --disable-debug
are good for non debuging purposes).

pavel

Compiling on Mac OSX 10.6 (Snow Leopard)

[Anders Ekberg]

Hi all,

I have just upgraded to 10.6 and thought I shared some experiences on  
compiling:


For Qt you need the 4.6.0-beta1 version (4.5 might work, but 10.6  
seems to be only partially supported; also, if we look cross-platform,  
I think 4.6 is needed for Windows 7). Download from:

http://get.qt.nokia.com/qt/source/
(the location in INSTALL.MacOSX doesn't work anymore)
The default for Qt seems to be to compile for 32 bits (which is  
causing complications later on). I tried to get it to compile for 64  
bits, but it failed (it takes a looong time to compile Qt, so I didn't  
give it many tries).


Instead I compiled LyX for 32 bits by the adding following flags  
before compiling (I'm completely clueless as for C++ compilations, so  
several of these may well be obsolete)

export CPPFLAGS="-arch i386"
export CCFLAGS="-arch i386"
export CFLAGS="-arch i386"
export LDFLAGS="-framework Carbon -framework OpenGL -framework AGL - 
framework QuickTime -lz -framework Cocoa -arch i386"


In relation to INSTALL.MacOSX the -lz ld-flag is added. I think it I  
included it in my script based on some previous discussions. Does  
anyone know if it is needed?


I then configured as usual:
./configure --prefix=/Path/to/LyX.app --disable-concept-checks --with- 
version-suffix=-$VERSION --with-qt4-dir=/Path/to/QT46b1/ --enable- 
optimization=-Os --without-x --with-included-gettext --with- 
frontend=qt4 --disable-stdlib-debug --without-aspell --without-pspell  
--disable-shared --enable-static


Difference compared to INSTALL.MacOSX:
--disable-concept-checks
--without-x
--with-frontend=qt4
--disable-stdlib-debug
--without-aspell
--without-pspell
--disable-shared
--enable-static
I did probably have some reason to add them (the chance that I came up  
with them by myself is non-existant ;-) I think some had to do with  
creating release binaries. Does the INSTALL.MacOSX need to be updated?


There is one final important thing to do: I had to swap the source  
code and download it from scratch. (For 1.6 and 2.0 that is

svn co svn://svn.lyx.org/lyx/lyx-devel/trunk lyx-devel
and
svn co svn://svn.lyx.org/lyx/lyx-devel/branches/BRANCH_1_6_X lyx-16x
respectively)

So now both 1.6 and 2.0 run like a charm. The same compilation  
instructions were used for both. This bodes well for future Qt  
upgrades for LyX I think. Note however that they are intel only. The  
"crash bug" at backup is still there, but deselecting the choice of  
backup copies works.


All the best!
Anders

Re: Compiling on Mac OSX 10.6 (Snow Leopard)

[Pavel Sanda]

Anders Ekberg wrote:
> So now both 1.6 and 2.0 run like a charm. The same compilation instructions 
> were used for both. This bodes well for future Qt upgrades for LyX I think. 
> Note however that they are intel only. The "crash bug" at backup is still 
> there, but deselecting the choice of backup copies works.

could you prepare diff against INSTALL.MacOSX for people using 10.6 ?
perhaps adding some senction would be enough.

pavel

Re: Compiling on Mac OSX 10.6 (Snow Leopard)

[Anders Ekberg]

On 18 okt 2009, at 19.40, Pavel Sanda wrote:


Anders Ekberg wrote:
So now both 1.6 and 2.0 run like a charm. The same compilation  
instructions
were used for both. This bodes well for future Qt upgrades for LyX  
I think.
Note however that they are intel only. The "crash bug" at backup is  
still

there, but deselecting the choice of backup copies works.


could you prepare diff against INSTALL.MacOSX for people using 10.6 ?
perhaps adding some senction would be enough.

pavel



Sure, I just thought I should get some input from people who actually  
know C++-compiling so I don't put in too many unnecessary flags. On  
the other hand maybe that doesn't hurt.


/Anders

Re: Compiling on Mac OSX 10.6 (Snow Leopard)

[Pavel Sanda]

Anders Ekberg wrote:
>> could you prepare diff against INSTALL.MacOSX for people using 10.6 ?
>> perhaps adding some senction would be enough.
>>
>> pavel
>
>
> Sure, I just thought I should get some input from people who actually know 
> C++-compiling so I don't put in too many unnecessary flags. On the other 
> hand maybe that doesn't hurt.

...

> I then configured as usual:
> ./configure --prefix=/Path/to/LyX.app --disable-concept-checks 
> --with-version-suffix=-$VERSION --with-qt4-dir=/Path/to/QT46b1/ 
> --enable-optimization=-Os --without-x --with-included-gettext 
> --with-frontend=qt4 --disable-stdlib-debug --without-aspell 
> --without-pspell --disable-shared --enable-static

this is fine for debuging purposes.
for normal users we should use:
--enable-build-type=rel

(most notably --enable-optimization=-O2  --disable-debug
are good for non debuging purposes).

pavel