Fwd: tear-off math panels

2007-06-16 Thread Roger Mc Murtrie

Re Intel Mac OSX 10.4
Previous testing for both Mac and Linux done after make using src/lyx.
Now, after doing a make install on the Mac and starting  the  
resulting LyX.app, the correct characters are displayed for all  
palettes with the exception of the Big Operators palette for which  
only some work correctly while others are displayed as text strings  
such as oiint.
I assume this Big Operators problem might be due to some missing  
fonts in my system??


Hoping that the tear-off math palette feature makes it into rc2
Roger


Begin earlier message:


From: Roger Mc Murtrie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 15 June 2007 1:36:31 PM
To: lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org
Cc: E. Leuven [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: tear-off math panels

I have tested the tear off panels on both Linux and Mac.
Panels tear off when single clicked above a math palette's dashed  
line.
There is one inconsistency between the Linux panel and the Mac  
panel in that the linux palette has a maximise icon whereas the Mac  
palette doesn't.


This is a great improvement in math functionality and usability.

I have a problem with the Mac's LyX display.
When characters are entered from a math palette, the correct symbol  
is not displayed, instead an English character or string is  
displayed. For example, the math symbol greater-than-or-equal  
displays as geqq.

However, ViewPDF (pdflatex) does produce the correct symbols.

Roger




Re: Fwd: tear-off math panels

2007-06-16 Thread Edwin Leuven

Roger Mc Murtrie wrote:

Re Intel Mac OSX 10.4
Previous testing for both Mac and Linux done after make using src/lyx.
Now, after doing a make install on the Mac and starting  the resulting 
LyX.app, the correct characters are displayed for all palettes with the 
exception of the Big Operators palette for which only some work 
correctly while others are displayed as text strings such as oiint.
I assume this Big Operators problem might be due to some missing fonts 
in my system??


some missing pixmaps probably...


Fwd: tear-off math panels

2007-06-16 Thread Roger Mc Murtrie

Re Intel Mac OSX 10.4
Previous testing for both Mac and Linux done after "make" using src/lyx.
Now, after doing a "make install" on the Mac and starting  the  
resulting LyX.app, the correct characters are displayed for all  
palettes with the exception of the Big Operators palette for which  
only some work correctly while others are displayed as text strings  
such as "oiint".
I assume this Big Operators problem might be due to some missing  
fonts in my system??


Hoping that the tear-off math palette feature makes it into rc2
Roger


Begin earlier message:


From: Roger Mc Murtrie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 15 June 2007 1:36:31 PM
To: lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org
Cc: "E. Leuven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: tear-off math panels

I have tested the tear off panels on both Linux and Mac.
Panels "tear off" when single clicked above a math palette's dashed  
line.
There is one inconsistency between the Linux panel and the Mac  
panel in that the linux palette has a maximise icon whereas the Mac  
palette doesn't.


This is a great improvement in math functionality and usability.

I have a problem with the Mac's LyX display.
When characters are entered from a math palette, the correct symbol  
is not displayed, instead an English character or string is  
displayed. For example, the math symbol greater-than-or-equal  
displays as geqq.

However, View>PDF (pdflatex) does produce the correct symbols.

Roger




Re: Fwd: tear-off math panels

2007-06-16 Thread Edwin Leuven

Roger Mc Murtrie wrote:

Re Intel Mac OSX 10.4
Previous testing for both Mac and Linux done after "make" using src/lyx.
Now, after doing a "make install" on the Mac and starting  the resulting 
LyX.app, the correct characters are displayed for all palettes with the 
exception of the Big Operators palette for which only some work 
correctly while others are displayed as text strings such as "oiint".
I assume this Big Operators problem might be due to some missing fonts 
in my system??


some missing pixmaps probably...


Fwd: tear-off math panels

2007-06-13 Thread Roger Mc Murtrie



Begin forwarded message:


From: Roger Mc Murtrie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 14 June 2007 10:02:49 AM
To: Leuven, E. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: tear-off math panels

I see, OK.

Select Greek menu, select a character, character entered, palette  
closes. But, problem character does not show as Greek (beta dispays  
as b, but pdflatex does produce beta.)

Select Greek menu, click on frame, palette close.
Select Greek menu, try to tear-off.  I can't!!!  Definitely worked  
last night!
AH, just got it to work; I think I held the mouse button down for a  
longer time than usual with the pointer tip just on the dashed line  
or insignificantly above it.

Any how, its torn off now.
With mouse in upper bar palette can be moved freely around the screen.
With palette over document, click in document but not in a math  
box. Palette stays on top and is grey - good .

Click in a math box. Palette characters become black.
Sequentially select   characters from Greek palette. Characters are  
displayed but in English, NOT Greek.

Click palette close button. Palette closes.

My previous messages to you were late at night otherwise I would  
probably have done this testing at the time.
(In fact, the computer called me out of bed Bep to address  
those messages! )


Now, off to the University to get it working on Linux.


I did have another thought after my last message to you.
That is, although I hadn't thought anything about it at the time,  
my initial inclination was to try and tear the palette off by  
clicking the mouse on the palette just BELOW the dashed line.
This might be easier for users if it can be done and would also be  
a closer tearing-off metaphor. Just a thought.


This home machine of mine is an Intel Mac with OSX 10.4.
I'll l try the patch on my University Linux machine today and  
hopefully give your tear-off palettes a good work out.



On 14/06/2007, at 12:14 AM, Leuven, E. wrote:


Roger Mc Murtrie wrote:
 Great!  It works. Close button and all!!  Wonderfull!!!

could you confirm that the menu disappear after a click when they  
are attached, but that they stay on top when torn-off?


 Just one suggestion. Can there be a little more space between  
the top of

 the pallette and the dashed line.
 I found that I had to be rather precise with mouse pointing to  
tear it

 off; which is why I didn't succeed previously.

i agree, but we don't draw these ourselves so i am not sure we can  
control this...











Fwd: tear-off math panels

2007-06-13 Thread Roger Mc Murtrie



Begin forwarded message:


From: Roger Mc Murtrie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 14 June 2007 10:02:49 AM
To: "Leuven, E." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: tear-off math panels

I see, OK.

Select Greek menu, select a character, character entered, palette  
closes. But, problem character does not show as Greek (beta dispays  
as b, but pdflatex does produce beta.)

Select Greek menu, click on frame, palette close.
Select Greek menu, try to tear-off.  I can't!!!  Definitely worked  
last night!
AH, just got it to work; I think I held the mouse button down for a  
longer time than usual with the pointer tip just on the dashed line  
or insignificantly above it.

Any how, its torn off now.
With mouse in upper bar palette can be moved freely around the screen.
With palette over document, click in document but not in a math  
box. Palette stays on top and is grey - good .

Click in a math box. Palette characters become black.
Sequentially select   characters from Greek palette. Characters are  
displayed but in English, NOT Greek.

Click palette close button. Palette closes.

My previous messages to you were late at night otherwise I would  
probably have done this testing at the time.
(In fact, the computer called me out of bed "Bep" to address  
those messages! )


Now, off to the University to get it working on Linux.


I did have another thought after my last message to you.
That is, although I hadn't thought anything about it at the time,  
my initial inclination was to try and tear the palette off by  
clicking the mouse on the palette just BELOW the dashed line.
This might be easier for users if it can be done and would also be  
a closer "tearing-off" metaphor. Just a thought.


This home machine of mine is an Intel Mac with OSX 10.4.
I'll l try the patch on my University Linux machine today and  
hopefully give your tear-off palettes a good work out.



On 14/06/2007, at 12:14 AM, Leuven, E. wrote:


Roger Mc Murtrie wrote:
> Great!  It works. Close button and all!!  Wonderfull!!!

could you confirm that the menu disappear after a click when they  
are attached, but that they stay on top when torn-off?


> Just one suggestion. Can there be a little more space between  
the top of

> the pallette and the dashed line.
> I found that I had to be rather precise with mouse pointing to  
tear it

> off; which is why I didn't succeed previously.

i agree, but we don't draw these ourselves so i am not sure we can  
control this...