Re: Looking for KDE testers (Re: [PATCH] allow to force backing store for display)

2021-12-27 Thread Pavel Sanda
On Sun, Dec 26, 2021 at 07:55:02PM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> Normally, if the theme is transparent, the workarea should blink.

No problem like this here. It must be very specific WM config.

> However, looking at the latest information on the bug report
> https://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/12119
> it seems that the issue may be limited to the window manager Sway. If this
> is the case, I'd propose to remove the GUI for the lyxrc entry and just
> leave the variable for manual tweaking.

Agreed.

> Or I could change the tooltip to say: "select this if the display blinks.
> Note that performance may suffer and that subpixel aliasing will be
> disabled."

I would only keep the RC so we could easily ask for users to test,
but until it proves to be useful, this UI looks rather distracting.

Given that another transparent WMs can deal with this situation
isn't it also reasonable to ask affected users to file the bug
against their niche WM?

(I have access to KDE machine but when I started to look how to get
the Kvantum thing working I quickly backtracked. I really don't think
this will affect large mass of users, just because you can't just
click somewhere in preferences and have it on your machine.)

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Re: Looking for KDE testers (Re: [PATCH] allow to force backing store for display)

2021-12-26 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

Le 17/12/2021 à 15:25, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes a écrit :
The reworked patch is now in master, along with a new checkbox for X11 
and Windows users.


I would be grateful of a KDE/X11 user could try to install a translucid 
windows theme like Layan and check

1/ that it creates display issues
2/ that the new checkbox in Preferences|Display fixes it (at the cost of 
losing subpixel aliasing).


So we don't have any KDE user here? It turns out the situation is a bit 
more complicated, but still easy to reproduce (it involves using 
Kvantum, actually). I considered installing a KDE image, but then 
realized I would have to install the build depencies and all, and I gave 
up :)


All the details are here:
https://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/12119#comment:20

Any taker? I is a really nice holiday project, I can assure you!

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Re: Looking for KDE testers (Re: [PATCH] allow to force backing store for display)

2021-12-26 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes


Le 23/12/2021 à 19:54, Pavel Sanda a écrit :

On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 03:25:47PM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:

I would be grateful of a KDE/X11 user could try to install a translucid
windows theme like Layan and check
1/ that it creates display issues
2/ that the new checkbox in Preferences|Display fixes it (at the cost of
losing subpixel aliasing).


I don't have KDE but I have X11 WM with transparent theme, what exactly should 
I do?
Pavel


Normally, if the theme is transparent, the workarea should blink.

However, looking at the latest information on the bug report
https://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/12119
it seems that the issue may be limited to the window manager Sway. If 
this is the case, I'd propose to remove the GUI for the lyxrc entry and 
just leave the variable for manual tweaking.


Or I could change the tooltip to say: "select this if the display 
blinks. Note that performance may suffer and that subpixel aliasing will 
be disabled."


But I would not want people to select this when they do not need to.

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Re: Looking for KDE testers (Re: [PATCH] allow to force backing store for display)

2021-12-23 Thread Pavel Sanda
On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 03:25:47PM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> I would be grateful of a KDE/X11 user could try to install a translucid
> windows theme like Layan and check
> 1/ that it creates display issues
> 2/ that the new checkbox in Preferences|Display fixes it (at the cost of
> losing subpixel aliasing).

I don't have KDE but I have X11 WM with transparent theme, what exactly should 
I do?
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Re: Looking for KDE testers (Re: [PATCH] allow to force backing store for display)

2021-12-19 Thread Richard Kimberly Heck

On 12/17/21 09:25, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:

Le 16/12/2021 à 16:39, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes a écrit :


This patch allows to enforce the use of of a backing store for 
display. This has no effect for Wayland and macOS, when backing store 
is always on.


The main use for it is x11 with a window manager theme with 
translucent windows (KDE)

https://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/12119

At this point, there is no UI for this, because I think this is a 
niche case. I would be open to the idea of adding a checkbox somewhere.


The reworked patch is now in master, along with a new checkbox for X11 
and Windows users.


I would be grateful of a KDE/X11 user could try to install a 
translucid windows theme like Layan and check

1/ that it creates display issues
2/ that the new checkbox in Preferences|Display fixes it (at the cost 
of losing subpixel aliasing).


This is candidate for 2.3.7 (by default it does nothing).


I can't test, unfortunately, but it's fine for 2.3.x if someone else can.

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Looking for KDE testers (Re: [PATCH] allow to force backing store for display)

2021-12-17 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

Le 16/12/2021 à 16:39, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes a écrit :


This patch allows to enforce the use of of a backing store for display. 
This has no effect for Wayland and macOS, when backing store is always on.


The main use for it is x11 with a window manager theme with translucent 
windows (KDE)

https://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/12119

At this point, there is no UI for this, because I think this is a niche 
case. I would be open to the idea of adding a checkbox somewhere.


The reworked patch is now in master, along with a new checkbox for X11 
and Windows users.


I would be grateful of a KDE/X11 user could try to install a translucid 
windows theme like Layan and check

1/ that it creates display issues
2/ that the new checkbox in Preferences|Display fixes it (at the cost of 
losing subpixel aliasing).


This is candidate for 2.3.7 (by default it does nothing).

JMarc
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