Re: More displays
Pavel Sanda wrote: On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 11:22:15PM +0100, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: Andre Poenitz wrote: On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 09:53:08PM +0100, Pavel Sanda wrote: hi, does anybody know whether is possible for one process to own different windows on different X displays ? Conceptionally there should be no _X_ problem at all 'interesting' X functions take a Display argument, and I see no reason why one should not be able to feed different values there. However, I doubt this will work with Qt: qx11info_x11.h:static Display *display(); (dream: lfun-new-window-on-display 15 will let more people to share one document online.) Not within the next few years ;-) Actually, I don't think we're so far away from that dream ;-) Concurrent editing is something that is not conceptually very different from multi-view, we just need to 'lock' the lfun server while a view is being edited. The Gui would need to run in a separate process as right now there's (at most) one X Display per Qt process and it is rather unlikely to change. And we are still a bit away from a real GUI/Core separation. accidentally i just run through the following site: http://doc.trolltech.com/main-snapshot/qt-embedded-running.html do you think this can be used? Maybe. Another interesting link: http://www.abisource.com/wiki/AbiCollab Looks like the Abiword folks might achieve that before us... Abdel.
Re: More displays
Pavel Sanda wrote: On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 11:22:15PM +0100, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: Andre Poenitz wrote: On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 09:53:08PM +0100, Pavel Sanda wrote: hi, does anybody know whether is possible for one process to own different windows on different X displays ? Conceptionally there should be no _X_ problem at all 'interesting' X functions take a Display argument, and I see no reason why one should not be able to feed different values there. However, I doubt this will work with Qt: qx11info_x11.h:static Display *display(); (dream: "lfun-new-window-on-display 15" will let more people to share one document online.) Not within the next few years ;-) Actually, I don't think we're so far away from that dream ;-) Concurrent editing is something that is not conceptually very different from multi-view, we just need to 'lock' the lfun server while a view is being edited. The Gui would need to run in a separate process as right now there's (at most) one X Display per Qt process and it is rather unlikely to change. And we are still a bit away from a "real" GUI/Core separation. accidentally i just run through the following site: http://doc.trolltech.com/main-snapshot/qt-embedded-running.html do you think this can be used? Maybe. Another interesting link: http://www.abisource.com/wiki/AbiCollab Looks like the Abiword folks might achieve that before us... Abdel.
Re: More displays
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 11:22:15PM +0100, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: Andre Poenitz wrote: On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 09:53:08PM +0100, Pavel Sanda wrote: hi, does anybody know whether is possible for one process to own different windows on different X displays ? Conceptionally there should be no _X_ problem at all 'interesting' X functions take a Display argument, and I see no reason why one should not be able to feed different values there. However, I doubt this will work with Qt: qx11info_x11.h:static Display *display(); (dream: lfun-new-window-on-display 15 will let more people to share one document online.) Not within the next few years ;-) Actually, I don't think we're so far away from that dream ;-) Concurrent editing is something that is not conceptually very different from multi-view, we just need to 'lock' the lfun server while a view is being edited. The Gui would need to run in a separate process as right now there's (at most) one X Display per Qt process and it is rather unlikely to change. And we are still a bit away from a real GUI/Core separation. accidentally i just run through the following site: http://doc.trolltech.com/main-snapshot/qt-embedded-running.html do you think this can be used? pavel
Re: More displays
> On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 11:22:15PM +0100, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > > Andre Poenitz wrote: > >> On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 09:53:08PM +0100, Pavel Sanda wrote: > >>> hi, > >>> > >>> does anybody know whether is possible for one process to own different > >>> windows on different X displays ? > >> Conceptionally there should be no _X_ problem at all 'interesting' X > >> functions take a Display argument, and I see no reason why one should > >> not be able to feed different values there. > >> However, I doubt this will work with Qt: > >> qx11info_x11.h:static Display *display(); > >>> (dream: "lfun-new-window-on-display 15" will let more people to share > >>> one document online.) > >> Not within the next few years ;-) > > > > Actually, I don't think we're so far away from that dream ;-) > > Concurrent editing is something that is not conceptually very different > > from multi-view, we just need to 'lock' the lfun server while a view is > > being edited. > > The Gui would need to run in a separate process as right now there's (at > most) one X Display per Qt process and it is rather unlikely to change. > > And we are still a bit away from a "real" GUI/Core separation. accidentally i just run through the following site: http://doc.trolltech.com/main-snapshot/qt-embedded-running.html do you think this can be used? pavel
Re: More displays
On Fri, 14 Mar 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: does anybody know whether is possible for one process to own different windows on different X displays ? (dream: lfun-new-window-on-display 15 will let more people to share one document online.) Another dream I had the other day was to be able to shift the display on a running LyX instance from one computer to another. Here's the scenario. I was editing a LyX document a work[1] and left it running at work. Then I did some work at home and thought it'd be great if I could just shift the display so that it now shows up at home instead... Is there any idea of filing this in bugzilla for the extreme future? Best regards /Christian [1] I have a reason to write a document once again with lots of math, so I could motivate using LyX :-) It's still amazing, and I like it quite a bit. Annoyance 1. What are the keyboard shortcuts (and LFUN) for Toggle math toolbar? I couldn't find the old math dialog, but eventually found the icon on the toolbar. However, I haven't figured out the shortcut. All the tool tip says is Toggle math toolbar, nothing about a shortcut :-( Annoyance 2. What are the keyboard shortcuts for toggle math panels? Same thing here really... Should I file an enhancement request for the toolbar tips to also show keyboard shortcuts? Should I file an enhancement request for giving these things a keyboard shortcut if they don't already ahve them? (or LFUN's). -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: More displays
On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 06:08:25PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 14 Mar 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: does anybody know whether is possible for one process to own different windows on different X displays ? (dream: lfun-new-window-on-display 15 will let more people to share one document online.) Another dream I had the other day was to be able to shift the display on a running LyX instance from one computer to another. Here's the scenario. I was editing a LyX document a work[1] and left it running at work. Then I did some work at home and thought it'd be great if I could just shift the display so that it now shows up at home instead... Is there any idea of filing this in bugzilla for the extreme future? I think this is a rather generic X wanted feature (or whatever, it might even already exist) than a LyX specific one. Andre'
Re: More displays
I was editing a LyX document a work[1] and left it running at work. Then I did some work at home and thought it'd be great if I could just shift the display so that it now shows up at home instead... Is there any idea of filing this in bugzilla for the extreme future? i dont think this is the stuff to be implemented by lyx. anyway have you ever tried vnc? pavel
Re: More displays
On Sun, 16 Mar 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: I was editing a LyX document a work[1] and left it running at work. Then I did some work at home and thought it'd be great if I could just shift the display so that it now shows up at home instead... Is there any idea of filing this in bugzilla for the extreme future? i dont think this is the stuff to be implemented by lyx. anyway have you ever tried vnc? Yes, but as I hadn't started LyX ina VNC session to begin with, it wasn't an option (AFAIK). Anyway, I was just dreaming of a way to hijack the LyX session. /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: More displays
I was editing a LyX document a work[1] and left it running at work. Then I did some work at home and thought it'd be great if I could just shift the display so that it now shows up at home instead... Is there any idea of filing this in bugzilla for the extreme future? i dont think this is the stuff to be implemented by lyx. anyway have you ever tried vnc? Yes, but as I hadn't started LyX ina VNC session to begin with, it wasn't an option (AFAIK). http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Use_VNC_to_connect_to_existing_X_Sessions pavel
Re: More displays
On Fri, 14 Mar 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: does anybody know whether is possible for one process to own different windows on different X displays ? (dream: "lfun-new-window-on-display 15" will let more people to share one document online.) Another "dream" I had the other day was to be able to "shift" the display on a running LyX instance from one computer to another. Here's the scenario. I was editing a LyX document a work[1] and left it running at work. Then I did some work at home and thought it'd be great if I could just "shift" the display so that it now shows up at home instead... Is there any idea of filing this in bugzilla for the extreme future? Best regards /Christian [1] I have a reason to write a document once again with lots of math, so I could motivate using LyX :-) It's still amazing, and I like it quite a bit. Annoyance 1. What are the keyboard shortcuts (and LFUN) for "Toggle math toolbar"? I couldn't find the old math dialog, but eventually found the icon on the toolbar. However, I haven't figured out the shortcut. All the tool tip says is "Toggle math toolbar", nothing about a shortcut :-( Annoyance 2. What are the keyboard shortcuts for "toggle math panels"? Same thing here really... Should I file an enhancement request for the toolbar tips to also show keyboard shortcuts? Should I file an enhancement request for giving these things a keyboard shortcut if they don't already ahve them? (or LFUN's). -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: More displays
On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 06:08:25PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Fri, 14 Mar 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: > >> does anybody know whether is possible for one process to own different >> windows on different X displays ? >> >> (dream: "lfun-new-window-on-display 15" will let more people to share one >> document online.) > > Another "dream" I had the other day was to be able to "shift" the display > on a running LyX instance from one computer to another. Here's the > scenario. > > I was editing a LyX document a work[1] and left it running at work. Then I > did some work at home and thought it'd be great if I could just "shift" the > display so that it now shows up at home instead... Is there any idea of > filing this in bugzilla for the extreme future? I think this is a rather generic X "wanted feature" (or whatever, it might even already exist) than a LyX specific one. Andre'
Re: More displays
> I was editing a LyX document a work[1] and left it running at work. Then I > did some work at home and thought it'd be great if I could just "shift" the > display so that it now shows up at home instead... Is there any idea of > filing this in bugzilla for the extreme future? i dont think this is the stuff to be implemented by lyx. anyway have you ever tried vnc? pavel
Re: More displays
On Sun, 16 Mar 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: I was editing a LyX document a work[1] and left it running at work. Then I did some work at home and thought it'd be great if I could just "shift" the display so that it now shows up at home instead... Is there any idea of filing this in bugzilla for the extreme future? i dont think this is the stuff to be implemented by lyx. anyway have you ever tried vnc? Yes, but as I hadn't started LyX ina VNC session to begin with, it wasn't an option (AFAIK). Anyway, I was just dreaming of a way to "hijack" the LyX session. /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: More displays
>>> I was editing a LyX document a work[1] and left it running at work. Then >>> I >>> did some work at home and thought it'd be great if I could just "shift" >>> the >>> display so that it now shows up at home instead... Is there any idea of >>> filing this in bugzilla for the extreme future? >> >> i dont think this is the stuff to be implemented by lyx. anyway have you >> ever tried vnc? > > Yes, but as I hadn't started LyX ina VNC session to begin with, it wasn't > an option (AFAIK). http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Use_VNC_to_connect_to_existing_X_Sessions pavel
More displays
hi, does anybody know whether is possible for one process to own different windows on different X displays ? (dream: lfun-new-window-on-display 15 will let more people to share one document online.) pavel
Re: More displays
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 09:53:08PM +0100, Pavel Sanda wrote: hi, does anybody know whether is possible for one process to own different windows on different X displays ? Conceptionally there should be no _X_ problem at all 'interesting' X functions take a Display argument, and I see no reason why one should not be able to feed different values there. However, I doubt this will work with Qt: qx11info_x11.h:static Display *display(); (dream: lfun-new-window-on-display 15 will let more people to share one document online.) Not within the next few years ;-) Andre'
Re: More displays
Andre Poenitz wrote: On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 09:53:08PM +0100, Pavel Sanda wrote: hi, does anybody know whether is possible for one process to own different windows on different X displays ? Conceptionally there should be no _X_ problem at all 'interesting' X functions take a Display argument, and I see no reason why one should not be able to feed different values there. However, I doubt this will work with Qt: qx11info_x11.h:static Display *display(); (dream: lfun-new-window-on-display 15 will let more people to share one document online.) Not within the next few years ;-) Actually, I don't think we're so far away from that dream ;-) Concurrent editing is something that is not conceptually very different from multi-view, we just need to 'lock' the lfun server while a view is being edited. Abdel.
Re: More displays
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 11:22:15PM +0100, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: Andre Poenitz wrote: On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 09:53:08PM +0100, Pavel Sanda wrote: hi, does anybody know whether is possible for one process to own different windows on different X displays ? Conceptionally there should be no _X_ problem at all 'interesting' X functions take a Display argument, and I see no reason why one should not be able to feed different values there. However, I doubt this will work with Qt: qx11info_x11.h:static Display *display(); (dream: lfun-new-window-on-display 15 will let more people to share one document online.) Not within the next few years ;-) Actually, I don't think we're so far away from that dream ;-) Concurrent editing is something that is not conceptually very different from multi-view, we just need to 'lock' the lfun server while a view is being edited. The Gui would need to run in a separate process as right now there's (at most) one X Display per Qt process and it is rather unlikely to change. And we are still a bit away from a real GUI/Core separation. Andre'
Re: More displays
Andre Poenitz wrote: On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 11:22:15PM +0100, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: Andre Poenitz wrote: On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 09:53:08PM +0100, Pavel Sanda wrote: hi, does anybody know whether is possible for one process to own different windows on different X displays ? Conceptionally there should be no _X_ problem at all 'interesting' X functions take a Display argument, and I see no reason why one should not be able to feed different values there. However, I doubt this will work with Qt: qx11info_x11.h:static Display *display(); (dream: lfun-new-window-on-display 15 will let more people to share one document online.) Not within the next few years ;-) Actually, I don't think we're so far away from that dream ;-) Concurrent editing is something that is not conceptually very different from multi-view, we just need to 'lock' the lfun server while a view is being edited. The Gui would need to run in a separate process as right now there's (at most) one X Display per Qt process and it is rather unlikely to change. I didn't know that... And we are still a bit away from a real GUI/Core separation. Right. Abdel.
More displays
hi, does anybody know whether is possible for one process to own different windows on different X displays ? (dream: "lfun-new-window-on-display 15" will let more people to share one document online.) pavel
Re: More displays
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 09:53:08PM +0100, Pavel Sanda wrote: > hi, > > does anybody know whether is possible for one process to own different > windows on different X displays ? Conceptionally there should be no _X_ problem at all 'interesting' X functions take a Display argument, and I see no reason why one should not be able to feed different values there. However, I doubt this will work with Qt: qx11info_x11.h:static Display *display(); > (dream: "lfun-new-window-on-display 15" will let more people to share > one document online.) Not within the next few years ;-) Andre'
Re: More displays
Andre Poenitz wrote: On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 09:53:08PM +0100, Pavel Sanda wrote: hi, does anybody know whether is possible for one process to own different windows on different X displays ? Conceptionally there should be no _X_ problem at all 'interesting' X functions take a Display argument, and I see no reason why one should not be able to feed different values there. However, I doubt this will work with Qt: qx11info_x11.h:static Display *display(); (dream: "lfun-new-window-on-display 15" will let more people to share one document online.) Not within the next few years ;-) Actually, I don't think we're so far away from that dream ;-) Concurrent editing is something that is not conceptually very different from multi-view, we just need to 'lock' the lfun server while a view is being edited. Abdel.
Re: More displays
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 11:22:15PM +0100, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > Andre Poenitz wrote: >> On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 09:53:08PM +0100, Pavel Sanda wrote: >>> hi, >>> >>> does anybody know whether is possible for one process to own different >>> windows on different X displays ? >> Conceptionally there should be no _X_ problem at all 'interesting' X >> functions take a Display argument, and I see no reason why one should >> not be able to feed different values there. >> However, I doubt this will work with Qt: >> qx11info_x11.h:static Display *display(); >>> (dream: "lfun-new-window-on-display 15" will let more people to share >>> one document online.) >> Not within the next few years ;-) > > Actually, I don't think we're so far away from that dream ;-) > Concurrent editing is something that is not conceptually very different > from multi-view, we just need to 'lock' the lfun server while a view is > being edited. The Gui would need to run in a separate process as right now there's (at most) one X Display per Qt process and it is rather unlikely to change. And we are still a bit away from a "real" GUI/Core separation. Andre'
Re: More displays
Andre Poenitz wrote: On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 11:22:15PM +0100, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: Andre Poenitz wrote: On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 09:53:08PM +0100, Pavel Sanda wrote: hi, does anybody know whether is possible for one process to own different windows on different X displays ? Conceptionally there should be no _X_ problem at all 'interesting' X functions take a Display argument, and I see no reason why one should not be able to feed different values there. However, I doubt this will work with Qt: qx11info_x11.h:static Display *display(); (dream: "lfun-new-window-on-display 15" will let more people to share one document online.) Not within the next few years ;-) Actually, I don't think we're so far away from that dream ;-) Concurrent editing is something that is not conceptually very different from multi-view, we just need to 'lock' the lfun server while a view is being edited. The Gui would need to run in a separate process as right now there's (at most) one X Display per Qt process and it is rather unlikely to change. I didn't know that... And we are still a bit away from a "real" GUI/Core separation. Right. Abdel.
