Re: Re: enhancement request: support biblatex

[Neal Becker]

José Matos wrote:

 On Monday 28 April 2014 08:13:49 Neal Becker wrote:
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=584063
 
 Seems fedora is not shipping biber, it is still an open bug
 
 Why don't you install the package from the copr repository pointed there?
 
 With some feedback it will possible to place this package in Fedora.
 
 FWIW I had/have a copr repository for lyx-2.1 before it was released.
 
 Regards,
Oh thanks!  I didn't know about biber in copr.

Re: Re: enhancement request: support biblatex

[Neal Becker]

José Matos wrote:

> On Monday 28 April 2014 08:13:49 Neal Becker wrote:
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=584063
>> 
>> Seems fedora is not shipping biber, it is still an open bug
> 
> Why don't you install the package from the copr repository pointed there?
> 
> With some feedback it will possible to place this package in Fedora.
> 
> FWIW I had/have a copr repository for lyx-2.1 before it was released.
> 
> Regards,
Oh thanks!  I didn't know about biber in copr.

Re: Re: enhancement request: support biblatex

[José Matos]

On Monday 28 April 2014 08:13:49 Neal Becker wrote:
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=584063
 
 Seems fedora is not shipping biber, it is still an open bug

Why don't you install the package from the copr repository pointed there?

With some feedback it will possible to place this package in Fedora.

FWIW I had/have a copr repository for lyx-2.1 before it was released.

Regards,
-- 
José Abílio

Re: Re: enhancement request: support biblatex

[José Matos]

On Monday 28 April 2014 08:13:49 Neal Becker wrote:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=584063
> 
> Seems fedora is not shipping biber, it is still an open bug

Why don't you install the package from the copr repository pointed there?

With some feedback it will possible to place this package in Fedora.

FWIW I had/have a copr repository for lyx-2.1 before it was released.

Regards,
-- 
José Abílio

enhancement request: support biblatex

[Neal Becker]

I have read that biblatex is the way of the future.  Unfortunately, I 
understand 
that lyx does not currently support biblatex.

Re: enhancement request: support biblatex

[stefano franchi]

On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 6:29 AM, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have read that biblatex is the way of the future.  Unfortunately, I
 understand
 that lyx does not currently support biblatex.


Lyx supports biblatex *partially*. You can use biblatex in lyx with a few
workarounds, all detailed in the corresponding wiki page:
http://wiki.lyx.org/BibTeX/Biblatex.

In short, you have to load biblatex and the bib files manually in the
preamble, and you have to enter a command in ERT in your text to instruct
LyX to print out the list of references. You are still able to enter
references through a dialog box as you would when using bibtex. In
practical terms, using biblatex in lyx is not much different from using
bibtex, at least if you use the standard styles and citing commands.
Having full support would be great, but the current setup is more than
usable.


Cheers,

Stefano



-- 
__
Stefano Franchi
Associate Research Professor
Department of Hispanic Studies Ph:   +1 (979) 845-2125
Texas AM University  Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
College Station, Texas, USA

stef...@tamu.edu
http://stefano.cleinias.org

Re: enhancement request: support biblatex

[Neal Becker]

stefano franchi wrote:

 On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 6:29 AM, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I have read that biblatex is the way of the future.  Unfortunately, I
 understand
 that lyx does not currently support biblatex.

 
 Lyx supports biblatex *partially*. You can use biblatex in lyx with a few
 workarounds, all detailed in the corresponding wiki page:
 http://wiki.lyx.org/BibTeX/Biblatex.
 
 In short, you have to load biblatex and the bib files manually in the
 preamble, and you have to enter a command in ERT in your text to instruct
 LyX to print out the list of references. You are still able to enter
 references through a dialog box as you would when using bibtex. In
 practical terms, using biblatex in lyx is not much different from using
 bibtex, at least if you use the standard styles and citing commands.
 Having full support would be great, but the current setup is more than
 usable.
 
 
 Cheers,
 
 Stefano
 
 
 

Oh, thanks!

One note.  It seems biber is not supported at least on Fedora linux.  Fedora 
ships texlive 2013.  I can't seem to find any biber there, and from what 
messages I found on google, I think maybe it's not maintained?  I have used 
biblatex using bibtex backend instead of biber.

Re: enhancement request: support biblatex

[stefano franchi]

On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 7:02 AM, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote:

 stefano franchi wrote:

  On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 6:29 AM, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  I have read that biblatex is the way of the future.  Unfortunately, I
  understand
  that lyx does not currently support biblatex.
 
 
  Lyx supports biblatex *partially*. You can use biblatex in lyx with a few
  workarounds, all detailed in the corresponding wiki page:
  http://wiki.lyx.org/BibTeX/Biblatex.
 
  In short, you have to load biblatex and the bib files manually in the
  preamble, and you have to enter a command in ERT in your text to instruct
  LyX to print out the list of references. You are still able to enter
  references through a dialog box as you would when using bibtex. In
  practical terms, using biblatex in lyx is not much different from using
  bibtex, at least if you use the standard styles and citing commands.
  Having full support would be great, but the current setup is more than
  usable.
 
 
  Cheers,
 
  Stefano
 
 
 

 Oh, thanks!

 One note.  It seems biber is not supported at least on Fedora linux.
  Fedora
 ships texlive 2013.  I can't seem to find any biber there, and from what
 messages I found on google, I think maybe it's not maintained?  I have used
 biblatex using bibtex backend instead of biber.


Biber is under active development, actually, and well maintained. I use the
version distributed with TexLive 2013, which is now frozen at 1.8 (TexLive
2013 is frozen, since the TexLive 2014 is about to come out). I don't know
how Fedora packages Texlive (I'm on Archlnux), perhaps it behaves like
Debian/Ubuntu and splits it into several packages? In hat case you may be
missing one of the extra packages.

Cheers,

Stefano


-- 
__
Stefano Franchi
Associate Research Professor
Department of Hispanic Studies Ph:   +1 (979) 845-2125
Texas AM University  Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
College Station, Texas, USA

stef...@tamu.edu
http://stefano.cleinias.org

Re: enhancement request: support biblatex

[Neal Becker]

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=584063

Seems fedora is not shipping biber, it is still an open bug


On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 8:07 AM, stefano franchi
stefano.fran...@gmail.comwrote:




 On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 7:02 AM, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote:

 stefano franchi wrote:

  On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 6:29 AM, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  I have read that biblatex is the way of the future.  Unfortunately, I
  understand
  that lyx does not currently support biblatex.
 
 
  Lyx supports biblatex *partially*. You can use biblatex in lyx with a
 few
  workarounds, all detailed in the corresponding wiki page:
  http://wiki.lyx.org/BibTeX/Biblatex.
 
  In short, you have to load biblatex and the bib files manually in the
  preamble, and you have to enter a command in ERT in your text to
 instruct
  LyX to print out the list of references. You are still able to enter
  references through a dialog box as you would when using bibtex. In
  practical terms, using biblatex in lyx is not much different from using
  bibtex, at least if you use the standard styles and citing commands.
  Having full support would be great, but the current setup is more than
  usable.
 
 
  Cheers,
 
  Stefano
 
 
 

 Oh, thanks!

 One note.  It seems biber is not supported at least on Fedora linux.
  Fedora
 ships texlive 2013.  I can't seem to find any biber there, and from what
 messages I found on google, I think maybe it's not maintained?  I have
 used
 biblatex using bibtex backend instead of biber.


 Biber is under active development, actually, and well maintained. I use
 the version distributed with TexLive 2013, which is now frozen at 1.8
 (TexLive 2013 is frozen, since the TexLive 2014 is about to come out). I
 don't know how Fedora packages Texlive (I'm on Archlnux), perhaps it
 behaves like Debian/Ubuntu and splits it into several packages? In hat case
 you may be missing one of the extra packages.

 Cheers,

 Stefano


 --
 __
 Stefano Franchi
 Associate Research Professor
 Department of Hispanic Studies Ph:   +1 (979) 845-2125
 Texas AM University  Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
 College Station, Texas, USA

 stef...@tamu.edu
 http://stefano.cleinias.org

Re: enhancement request: support biblatex

[stefano franchi]

On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 7:13 AM, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote:

 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=584063

 Seems fedora is not shipping biber, it is still an open bug



You can always install it from their site, if you are willing to bypass
Fedora's package management system:
http://biblatex-biber.sourceforge.net/

Cheers,

S.

-- 
__
Stefano Franchi
Associate Research Professor
Department of Hispanic Studies Ph:   +1 (979) 845-2125
Texas AM University  Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
College Station, Texas, USA

stef...@tamu.edu
http://stefano.cleinias.org

Re: enhancement request: support biblatex

[Richard Heck]

On 04/28/2014 08:37 AM, stefano franchi wrote:




On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 7:13 AM, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com 
mailto:ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote:


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=584063

Seems fedora is not shipping biber, it is still an open bug



You can always install it from their site, if you are willing to 
bypass Fedora's package management system:

http://biblatex-biber.sourceforge.net/


Recommended course would be to install it under /usr/local/. Then there 
is no potential conflict.


Richard

enhancement request: support biblatex

[Neal Becker]

I have read that biblatex is the way of the future.  Unfortunately, I 
understand 
that lyx does not currently support biblatex.

Re: enhancement request: support biblatex

[stefano franchi]

On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 6:29 AM, Neal Becker  wrote:

> I have read that biblatex is the way of the future.  Unfortunately, I
> understand
> that lyx does not currently support biblatex.
>

Lyx supports biblatex *partially*. You can use biblatex in lyx with a few
workarounds, all detailed in the corresponding wiki page:
http://wiki.lyx.org/BibTeX/Biblatex.

In short, you have to load biblatex and the bib files manually in the
preamble, and you have to enter a command in ERT in your text to instruct
LyX to print out the list of references. You are still able to enter
references through a dialog box as you would when using bibtex. In
practical terms, using biblatex in lyx is not much different from using
bibtex, at least if you use the standard styles and citing commands.
Having full support would be great, but the current setup is more than
usable.


Cheers,

Stefano



-- 
__
Stefano Franchi
Associate Research Professor
Department of Hispanic Studies Ph:   +1 (979) 845-2125
Texas A University  Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
College Station, Texas, USA

stef...@tamu.edu
http://stefano.cleinias.org

Re: enhancement request: support biblatex

[Neal Becker]

stefano franchi wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 6:29 AM, Neal Becker  wrote:
> 
>> I have read that biblatex is the way of the future.  Unfortunately, I
>> understand
>> that lyx does not currently support biblatex.
>>
> 
> Lyx supports biblatex *partially*. You can use biblatex in lyx with a few
> workarounds, all detailed in the corresponding wiki page:
> http://wiki.lyx.org/BibTeX/Biblatex.
> 
> In short, you have to load biblatex and the bib files manually in the
> preamble, and you have to enter a command in ERT in your text to instruct
> LyX to print out the list of references. You are still able to enter
> references through a dialog box as you would when using bibtex. In
> practical terms, using biblatex in lyx is not much different from using
> bibtex, at least if you use the standard styles and citing commands.
> Having full support would be great, but the current setup is more than
> usable.
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Stefano
> 
> 
> 

Oh, thanks!

One note.  It seems biber is not supported at least on Fedora linux.  Fedora 
ships texlive 2013.  I can't seem to find any biber there, and from what 
messages I found on google, I think maybe it's not maintained?  I have used 
biblatex using bibtex backend instead of biber.

Re: enhancement request: support biblatex

[stefano franchi]

On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 7:02 AM, Neal Becker  wrote:

> stefano franchi wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 6:29 AM, Neal Becker 
> wrote:
> >
> >> I have read that biblatex is the way of the future.  Unfortunately, I
> >> understand
> >> that lyx does not currently support biblatex.
> >>
> >
> > Lyx supports biblatex *partially*. You can use biblatex in lyx with a few
> > workarounds, all detailed in the corresponding wiki page:
> > http://wiki.lyx.org/BibTeX/Biblatex.
> >
> > In short, you have to load biblatex and the bib files manually in the
> > preamble, and you have to enter a command in ERT in your text to instruct
> > LyX to print out the list of references. You are still able to enter
> > references through a dialog box as you would when using bibtex. In
> > practical terms, using biblatex in lyx is not much different from using
> > bibtex, at least if you use the standard styles and citing commands.
> > Having full support would be great, but the current setup is more than
> > usable.
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Stefano
> >
> >
> >
>
> Oh, thanks!
>
> One note.  It seems biber is not supported at least on Fedora linux.
>  Fedora
> ships texlive 2013.  I can't seem to find any biber there, and from what
> messages I found on google, I think maybe it's not maintained?  I have used
> biblatex using bibtex backend instead of biber.
>
>
Biber is under active development, actually, and well maintained. I use the
version distributed with TexLive 2013, which is now frozen at 1.8 (TexLive
2013 is frozen, since the TexLive 2014 is about to come out). I don't know
how Fedora packages Texlive (I'm on Archlnux), perhaps it behaves like
Debian/Ubuntu and splits it into several packages? In hat case you may be
missing one of the extra packages.

Cheers,

Stefano


-- 
__
Stefano Franchi
Associate Research Professor
Department of Hispanic Studies Ph:   +1 (979) 845-2125
Texas A University  Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
College Station, Texas, USA

stef...@tamu.edu
http://stefano.cleinias.org

Re: enhancement request: support biblatex

[Neal Becker]

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=584063

Seems fedora is not shipping biber, it is still an open bug


On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 8:07 AM, stefano franchi
wrote:

>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 7:02 AM, Neal Becker  wrote:
>
>> stefano franchi wrote:
>>
>> > On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 6:29 AM, Neal Becker 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I have read that biblatex is the way of the future.  Unfortunately, I
>> >> understand
>> >> that lyx does not currently support biblatex.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Lyx supports biblatex *partially*. You can use biblatex in lyx with a
>> few
>> > workarounds, all detailed in the corresponding wiki page:
>> > http://wiki.lyx.org/BibTeX/Biblatex.
>> >
>> > In short, you have to load biblatex and the bib files manually in the
>> > preamble, and you have to enter a command in ERT in your text to
>> instruct
>> > LyX to print out the list of references. You are still able to enter
>> > references through a dialog box as you would when using bibtex. In
>> > practical terms, using biblatex in lyx is not much different from using
>> > bibtex, at least if you use the standard styles and citing commands.
>> > Having full support would be great, but the current setup is more than
>> > usable.
>> >
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> > Stefano
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Oh, thanks!
>>
>> One note.  It seems biber is not supported at least on Fedora linux.
>>  Fedora
>> ships texlive 2013.  I can't seem to find any biber there, and from what
>> messages I found on google, I think maybe it's not maintained?  I have
>> used
>> biblatex using bibtex backend instead of biber.
>>
>>
> Biber is under active development, actually, and well maintained. I use
> the version distributed with TexLive 2013, which is now frozen at 1.8
> (TexLive 2013 is frozen, since the TexLive 2014 is about to come out). I
> don't know how Fedora packages Texlive (I'm on Archlnux), perhaps it
> behaves like Debian/Ubuntu and splits it into several packages? In hat case
> you may be missing one of the extra packages.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Stefano
>
>
> --
> __
> Stefano Franchi
> Associate Research Professor
> Department of Hispanic Studies Ph:   +1 (979) 845-2125
> Texas A University  Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
> College Station, Texas, USA
>
> stef...@tamu.edu
> http://stefano.cleinias.org
>

Re: enhancement request: support biblatex

[stefano franchi]

On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 7:13 AM, Neal Becker  wrote:

> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=584063
>
> Seems fedora is not shipping biber, it is still an open bug
>
>

You can always install it from their site, if you are willing to bypass
Fedora's package management system:
http://biblatex-biber.sourceforge.net/

Cheers,

S.

-- 
__
Stefano Franchi
Associate Research Professor
Department of Hispanic Studies Ph:   +1 (979) 845-2125
Texas A University  Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
College Station, Texas, USA

stef...@tamu.edu
http://stefano.cleinias.org

Re: enhancement request: support biblatex

[Richard Heck]

On 04/28/2014 08:37 AM, stefano franchi wrote:




On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 7:13 AM, Neal Becker > wrote:


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=584063

Seems fedora is not shipping biber, it is still an open bug



You can always install it from their site, if you are willing to 
bypass Fedora's package management system:

http://biblatex-biber.sourceforge.net/


Recommended course would be to install it under /usr/local/. Then there 
is no potential conflict.


Richard