Re: #10143: Mailing-List Policy Regarding Attachments

2017-01-12 Thread mn
On 31.12.16 22:50, LyX Ticket Tracker wrote:
> #10143: Mailing-List Policy Regarding Attachments
> -+-
>  Reporter:  Mike |   Owner:  chr
>  Type:  enhancement  |  Status:  closed
>  Priority:  normal   |   Milestone:
> Component:  website  | Version:  2.1.4
>  Severity:  normal   |  Resolution:  fixed
>  Keywords:   |
> -+-
> Changes (by chr):
> 
>  * status:  new => closed
>  * resolution:   => fixed
> 
> 
> Comment:
> 
>  At first I thought I was mistakenly assigned to this, I don't know
>  anything about the mailing lists nor have I participated in any of these
>  discussions. Anyway, reading the list discussion, I understand it's a
>  matter of updating a web page.
> 
>  I've done that, by adding a section as per below. I will now try and
>  assign this to someone else for review:
> 
>  1.6  About attachments to list posts
> 
>  If you attempt to send e.g. a .zip-file to the lists, you will likely see
>  an error message like this:
>  SMTP error from remote server for TEXT command, host:
>  thales.memphis.edu
>  (141.225.8.55) reason: 554 This message contains prohibited content
>  As .zip-files can contain anything, they are prohibited by default and
>  thus you get the error message above.
> 

Does this policy apply to zip-files only?
How is the status of prohibited content(-type) determined?
If it just by file extension then I still think this a bit dubious.
It seems to be OK to attach .lyx files and images now.
But if it is from someone with malicious intent then this a minor stop
gap for them since all of these could also contain anything. Just change
the file extension.

In any way the above gets some documentation of expected behavior out
there.

If there are further restrictions concerning attachment types it would
be perfectly fine just listing the allowed types:
lyx-files, images and plaintext (e.g. log files) (and whatever else is
allowed and welcome).

Since the first line of the new paragraph already mentions zip-files
just as an example it might suffice to add something like:

"As .zip-files and several other file-types can contain anything, they
are prohibited by default and thus you get the error message above." ?


greetings
Mike


Re: mailing-list policy

2016-05-18 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 06:26:11PM +0200, mn wrote:
> Every mail (with attachments) in the last few days I sent to the docs-
> and devel-mailinglists was bounced.
> 
> The message always said:
> SMTP error from remote server for TEXT command, host: thales.memphis.edu
> (141.225.8.55) reason: 554 This message contains prohibited content
> 
> This error message is – maybe misleading?
> There was no illegal stuff nor any profanity I could detect in the
> bounced mails.
> 
> Since I didn’t find any offical statement on the policy regarding
> attachment types, their size or contents for the mailing list:
> 
> What is the policy on this here?
> Why did I get those bounces?
> Can you please clarify this 554 in the future?
> Please make the policy on this more visible, easier to find.
> 
> If it is a problem with the size of the attachments (simply a zipped
> lyx-doc, less than 50K) please increase the size of allowed attachments.
> 
> Thx
> greetings
> Mike

Hi Mike,

My guess is it is more an issue with the file type than the size. .zip
can contain anything and I don't think simple email programs go to the
trouble of unzipping to find out.

I agree this should be documented on our website at
https://www.lyx.org/MailingLists

Can you make a ticket on trac and set the component to "website"?

Thanks,

Scott


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mailing-list policy

2016-05-18 Thread mn
Every mail (with attachments) in the last few days I sent to the docs-
and devel-mailinglists was bounced.

The message always said:
SMTP error from remote server for TEXT command, host: thales.memphis.edu
(141.225.8.55) reason: 554 This message contains prohibited content

This error message is – maybe misleading?
There was no illegal stuff nor any profanity I could detect in the
bounced mails.

Since I didn’t find any offical statement on the policy regarding
attachment types, their size or contents for the mailing list:

What is the policy on this here?
Why did I get those bounces?
Can you please clarify this 554 in the future?
Please make the policy on this more visible, easier to find.

If it is a problem with the size of the attachments (simply a zipped
lyx-doc, less than 50K) please increase the size of allowed attachments.

Thx
greetings
Mike