Re: scrollbar stopped working

2002-02-19 Thread John Levon

On Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 10:52:32AM +0100, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:

> | These do not exist.
> 
> they don't? What is the last 0.88.x release x = 1??

I have 0.88.9 but it doesn't really exist (I don't see the problem)

john
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Re: scrollbar stopped working

2002-02-19 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Lars> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>> "Allan" == Allan Rae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
Lars> | Allan> On Fri, 15 Feb 2002, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
 I see no problems with 0.89.5 and I think I say that there were
 no problems with 0.88.5.
>>
Lars> | Allan> So where does one get 0.88.5? Or at least 0.88.x, x>1
>>
Lars> | These do not exist.

Lars> they don't? What is the last 0.88.x release x = 1??

I think so, but feel free to prove me wrong... Anyway, if these did
exist, they were short lived. I think we can consider the versions are
either 0.88.1 or 0.89.6 (except that some archs like tru64 are stuck
with 0.89.1).

JMarc



Re: scrollbar stopped working

2002-02-19 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

> "Allan" == Allan Rae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Allan> On Fri, 15 Feb 2002, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
>> I see no problems with 0.89.5 and I think I say that there were no
>> problems with 0.88.5.

Allan> So where does one get 0.88.5? Or at least 0.88.x, x>1

These do not exist.

JMarc



Re: scrollbar stopped working

2002-02-19 Thread Allan Rae

On Fri, 15 Feb 2002, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:

> I see no problems with 0.89.5 and I think I say that there were no
> problems with 0.88.5.

So where does one get 0.88.5?  Or at least 0.88.x, x>1

The xforms official site apparently points at stale versions.

> I will not look furhter into this unless it can be shown that the
> error is within lyx and not with xforms.

Well it used to work and now doesn't.  Not exactly conclusive but if
xforms wasn't changed then it seems something in LyX broke it.

Allan. (ARRae)




Re: scrollbar stopped working

2002-02-18 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

> "Martin" == Martin Vermeer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Martin> (Side effects? What side effects?)

Side effect are probably quite annoying in this case.

JMarc



Re: scrollbar stopped working

2002-02-18 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

> "Allan" == Allan Rae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Allan> Compaq Armada 500 with Mdk-8.1, XFree86-4.1.0, lyx-1.2.0cvs and
Allan> xforms-0.88.1. Compile in either XForms or qt2 frontend and
Allan> load any lyx file that is longer than one screenful. The first
Allan> time you want to scroll the scrollbar with a mouse it does not
Allan> budge. You have to click somewhere in the scrollbar area (not
Allan> on the slider) and then you can drag the slider.

I cannot reproduce it here (xforms 0.89.6, mdk8.1, running remotely on
windows2000/Exceed7.0)

JMarc



Re: scrollbar stopped working

2002-02-15 Thread John Levon

On Fri, Feb 15, 2002 at 11:50:35AM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:

> Lars has done 'fixes' to the scrollbar code recently.

He broke it last time he tried that too !

john

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Re: scrollbar stopped working

2002-02-15 Thread Martin Vermeer

On Fri, Feb 15, 2002 at 12:44:05PM +0200, Martin Vermeer wrote:
  
> > > "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 
> > Andre> Apropos fixes: How is responsible that keybinding completions
> > Andre> don't show up anymore in the minibuffer?
> > 
> > They do show up, as long as you wait 6 seconds for them.
> > 
> > JMarc
> 
> It's not the same mechanism showing them. Apparently the mechanism we
> want to have is in lyxfunc::verboseDispatch. The boolean show_sc seems
> to be false, which disables this (don't ask why, I suspect it is wrong,
> but forcing it to true didn't help either).
> 
> The backup mechanism is in XFormsView:XFormsView, which makes (by
> Signal-Slot) initMiniBuffer get called and do its thing. This should 
> only happen if the user has fallen asleep. [somebody add a beep]
> 
> Who has been tinkering with this code last?
> 
> Martin

Forget all this. The fix verbodeDispatch is OK I think. The "backup
mechanism" is in fact a different mechanism, offering continuation
keystrokes, not alternatives for the current action. Okay, I'm learning.

In minibuffer.C:62 (MiniBuffer::MiniBuffer) it says

 timer.setTimeout(6000);

...and removing one zero fixes our problem.

(Side effects? What side effects?)

Martin




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Re: scrollbar stopped working

2002-02-15 Thread Andre Poenitz

On Fri, Feb 15, 2002 at 11:19:13AM +0100, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
> | Lars> some 4-5 weeks ago...
> | Can you have a look at this particular problem?
> 
> the problem was with scrollwheel?

The current problem (as told, I've not seen it myself) is that scrolling
simply stops. In some cases it will work again after 'a while', in some
cases it causes massive drawing problems (multiple copys of the same text
on screen) and in most cases it is simply dead.

Andre'

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André Pönitz .. [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: scrollbar stopped working

2002-02-15 Thread Martin Vermeer

On Fri, Feb 15, 2002 at 12:17:08PM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
 
> > "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> Andre> Apropos fixes: How is responsible that keybinding completions
> Andre> don't show up anymore in the minibuffer?
> 
> They do show up, as long as you wait 6 seconds for them.
> 
> JMarc

It's not the same mechanism showing them. Apparently the mechanism we
want to have is in lyxfunc::verboseDispatch. The boolean show_sc seems
to be false, which disables this (don't ask why, I suspect it is wrong,
but forcing it to true didn't help either).

The backup mechanism is in XFormsView:XFormsView, which makes (by
Signal-Slot) initMiniBuffer get called and do its thing. This should 
only happen if the user has fallen asleep. [somebody add a beep]

Who has been tinkering with this code last?

Martin




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Re: scrollbar stopped working

2002-02-15 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Lars> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>> "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
Lars> | Andre> Apropos fixes: How is responsible that keybinding
Lars> completions | Andre> don't show up anymore in the minibuffer?
>>
Lars> | They do show up, as long as you wait 6 seconds for them.

Lars> What was wrong with letting them show immediately?

I think they should actually. Also, if I press C-x C-c and get a
dialog asking whether I want to save changes, only 'C-x' is shown in
minibuffer instead of 'C-x C-c' or nothing.

JMarc



Re: scrollbar stopped working

2002-02-15 Thread Andre Poenitz

On Fri, Feb 15, 2002 at 12:17:08PM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> They do show up, as long as you wait 6 seconds for them.

That's far too much.

Andre'

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André Pönitz .. [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: scrollbar stopped working

2002-02-15 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

> "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Andre> Apropos fixes: How is responsible that keybinding completions
Andre> don't show up anymore in the minibuffer?

They do show up, as long as you wait 6 seconds for them.

JMarc



Re: scrollbar stopped working

2002-02-15 Thread Andre Poenitz

On Fri, Feb 15, 2002 at 11:12:37AM +0100, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
> >> Lars has done 'fixes' to the scrollbar code recently.
> 
> some 4-5 weeks ago...

I guess that fits.

> | Apropos fixes: How is responsible that keybinding completions don't show
> | up anymore in the minibuffer?
> 
> Ha! Not me!

Who else.

And anyway, you are chief, you are responsible for everybody else.

Andre'

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André Pönitz .. [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: scrollbar stopped working

2002-02-15 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Lars> Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Lars> | On Fri, Feb 15, 2002 at 11:50:35AM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
Allan> It had been working fine until recently so if it is down to
Allan> this version then someone must have changed something in the
Allan> last fortnight that it doesn't like. Maybe up to a month
Allan> because I've only had short test files loaded in LyX for most
Allan> of that time (sigh, sadly no thesis).
>>>  Lars has done 'fixes' to the scrollbar code recently.

Lars> some 4-5 weeks ago...

Can you have a look at this particular problem?

JMarc



Re: scrollbar stopped working

2002-02-15 Thread Andre Poenitz

On Fri, Feb 15, 2002 at 11:50:35AM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> Allan> It had been working fine until recently so if it is down to
> Allan> this version then someone must have changed something in the
> Allan> last fortnight that it doesn't like. Maybe up to a month
> Allan> because I've only had short test files loaded in LyX for most
> Allan> of that time (sigh, sadly no thesis).
> 
> Lars has done 'fixes' to the scrollbar code recently.

*grmpf*

Apropos fixes: How is responsible that keybinding completions don't show
up anymore in the minibuffer?

Andre'

-- 
André Pönitz .. [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: scrollbar stopped working

2002-02-15 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

> "Allan" == Allan Rae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Allan> On Fri, 15 Feb 2002, R. Lahaye wrote: [...]
>> Exactly same happens here on my PC (FreeBSD version 4.3) also with
>> xforms-0.88.1. Is this particular version of xforms the culprit?

Allan> It had been working fine until recently so if it is down to
Allan> this version then someone must have changed something in the
Allan> last fortnight that it doesn't like. Maybe up to a month
Allan> because I've only had short test files loaded in LyX for most
Allan> of that time (sigh, sadly no thesis).

Lars has done 'fixes' to the scrollbar code recently.

JMArc




Re: scrollbar stopped working

2002-02-14 Thread Allan Rae

On Fri, 15 Feb 2002, R. Lahaye wrote:
[...]
> Exactly same happens here on my PC (FreeBSD version 4.3) also with
> xforms-0.88.1. Is this particular version of xforms the culprit?

It had been working fine until recently so if it is down to this
version then someone must have changed something in the last fortnight
that it doesn't like.  Maybe up to a month because I've only had short
test files loaded in LyX for most of that time (sigh, sadly no
thesis).

Allan. (ARRae)




Re: scrollbar stopped working

2002-02-14 Thread R. Lahaye

Allan Rae wrote:
>
> Compaq Armada 500 with Mdk-8.1, XFree86-4.1.0, lyx-1.2.0cvs and
> xforms-0.88.1. Compile in either XForms or qt2 frontend and load any
> lyx file that is longer than one screenful. The first time you want to
> scroll the scrollbar with a mouse it does not budge.  You have to
> click somewhere in the scrollbar area (not on the slider) and then you
> can drag the slider.
> 
> This is also happening with my desktop -- Mdk-8.0 and XFree86-4.0.3
> instead.

Exactly same happens here on my PC (FreeBSD version 4.3) also with
xforms-0.88.1. Is this particular version of xforms the culprit?

Rob.



Re: scrollbar stopped working

2002-02-14 Thread Allan Rae

On 14 Feb 2002, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:

> >>>>> "dochawk" == dochawk  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> dochawk> jmarc jmentioned,
> >> >>>>> "Richard" == Richard E Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Richard> My scrollbar stopped working, but the rest of lyx continued.
>
> Richard> I had it running in a debugger, but had no idea how to obtain
> Richard> any useful information.
>
> >> Tell us if you can reproduce it.
>
> dochawk> I'll watch for it; I think I"ve seen it once before. But if
> dochawk> ithappens, is there some way to dump state or some such to
> dochawk> produceuseful information? or force a core dump? hawk
>
> I don't think so. The best would be to be able to reproduce it.

Compaq Armada 500 with Mdk-8.1, XFree86-4.1.0, lyx-1.2.0cvs and
xforms-0.88.1. Compile in either XForms or qt2 frontend and load any
lyx file that is longer than one screenful. The first time you want to
scroll the scrollbar with a mouse it does not budge.  You have to
click somewhere in the scrollbar area (not on the slider) and then you
can drag the slider.

This is also happening with my desktop -- Mdk-8.0 and XFree86-4.0.3
instead.

Allan. (ARRae)




Re: scrollbar stopped working

2002-02-14 Thread John Levon

On Thu, Feb 14, 2002 at 10:02:08AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I'll watch for it; I think I"ve seen it once before.  But if ithappens, 
> is there some way to dump state or some such to produceuseful 
> information? or force a core dump?

if you run lyx from a console, you can use control-\
to force a core dump (which is unlikely to prove useful though ...)

john

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"I'd rather be rudely informed than politely left in the dark."



Re: scrollbar stopped working

2002-02-14 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

>>>>> "dochawk" == dochawk  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

dochawk> jmarc jmentioned,
>> >>>>> "Richard" == Richard E Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Richard> My scrollbar stopped working, but the rest of lyx continued.

Richard> I had it running in a debugger, but had no idea how to obtain
Richard> any useful information.

>> Tell us if you can reproduce it.

dochawk> I'll watch for it; I think I"ve seen it once before. But if
dochawk> ithappens, is there some way to dump state or some such to
dochawk> produceuseful information? or force a core dump? hawk

I don't think so. The best would be to be able to reproduce it.

JMarc



Re: scrollbar stopped working

2002-02-14 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

>>>>> "Richard" == Richard E Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Richard> My scrollbar stopped working, but the rest of lyx continued.

Richard> I had it running in a debugger, but had no idea how to obtain
Richard> any useful information.

Tell us if you can reproduce it.

JMarc