Re: web site mirrors?

2000-01-07 Thread Juergen Vigna

Hello!

 
  IMO, it's not enough just to expand mirror sites list, but maintainence is also
 important.  You see, right now there're 3 mirror sites.  That one in Mexico is
 inaccessible, and the other two in Norway and Italy are totally out of dates (more
 than half a year late).  I've reported the problem of the mirror in Italy several
 months ago, but it's never corrected.  Adding mirror sites without proper
 maintainence would just give the impression of anarchy.

To my defense I've to say that it's all Lars's fault #:O) (how nice to
roll the ball in another direction ;), he promised a lot of times to make
the web-pages accessible by rsync, but till now never did!

Greets Jürgen

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Dr. Jürgen Vigna  E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Italienallee 13/N Tel:+39-0471-450260
I-39100 Bozen Fax:+39-0471-450296
ITALY Web:http://www.sad.it/~jug

Like punning, programming is a play on words.

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Re: web site mirrors?

2000-01-07 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes

Juergen Vigna [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

| Hello!
| 
|  
|   IMO, it's not enough just to expand mirror sites list, but maintainence is 
|also
|  important.  You see, right now there're 3 mirror sites.  That one in Mexico is
|  inaccessible, and the other two in Norway and Italy are totally out of dates (more
|  than half a year late).  I've reported the problem of the mirror in Italy several
|  months ago, but it's never corrected.  Adding mirror sites without proper
|  maintainence would just give the impression of anarchy.
| 
| To my defense I've to say that it's all Lars's fault #:O) (how nice to
| roll the ball in another direction ;), he promised a lot of times to make
| the web-pages accessible by rsync, but till now never did!
| 
| Greets Jürgen
| 
| -._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._
| 
| Dr. Jürgen Vigna  E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Italienallee 13/N Tel:+39-0471-450260
| I-39100 Bozen Fax:+39-0471-450296
| ITALY Web:http://www.sad.it/~jug
| 
| Like punning, programming is a play on words.
| 
| -._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._
 When on the other end of a 9.6K line I will do that.

Lgb



Re: web site mirrors?

2000-01-07 Thread Juergen Vigna

Hello!

> 
>  IMO, it's not enough just to expand mirror sites list, but maintainence is also
> important.  You see, right now there're 3 mirror sites.  That one in Mexico is
> inaccessible, and the other two in Norway and Italy are totally out of dates (more
> than half a year late).  I've reported the problem of the mirror in Italy several
> months ago, but it's never corrected.  Adding mirror sites without proper
> maintainence would just give the impression of anarchy.

To my defense I've to say that it's all Lars's fault #:O) (how nice to
roll the ball in another direction ;), he promised a lot of times to make
the web-pages accessible by rsync, but till now never did!

Greets Jürgen

-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._

Dr. Jürgen Vigna  E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Italienallee 13/N Tel:+39-0471-450260
I-39100 Bozen Fax:+39-0471-450296
ITALY Web:http://www.sad.it/~jug

Like punning, programming is a play on words.

-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._



Re: web site mirrors?

2000-01-07 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes

Juergen Vigna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

| Hello!
| 
| > 
| >  IMO, it's not enough just to expand mirror sites list, but maintainence is 
|also
| > important.  You see, right now there're 3 mirror sites.  That one in Mexico is
| > inaccessible, and the other two in Norway and Italy are totally out of dates (more
| > than half a year late).  I've reported the problem of the mirror in Italy several
| > months ago, but it's never corrected.  Adding mirror sites without proper
| > maintainence would just give the impression of anarchy.
| 
| To my defense I've to say that it's all Lars's fault #:O) (how nice to
| roll the ball in another direction ;), he promised a lot of times to make
| the web-pages accessible by rsync, but till now never did!
| 
| Greets Jürgen
| 
| -._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._
| 
| Dr. Jürgen Vigna  E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Italienallee 13/N Tel:+39-0471-450260
| I-39100 Bozen Fax:+39-0471-450296
| ITALY Web:http://www.sad.it/~jug
| 
| Like punning, programming is a play on words.
| 
| -._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._
 When on the other end of a 9.6K line I will do that.

Lgb



Re: web site mirrors?

2000-01-05 Thread Allan Rae

On Wed, 5 Jan 2000, Amir Karger wrote:

 On Tue, Feb 02, 1999 at 01:59:42PM +1000, Allan Rae wrote:
  On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Amir Karger wrote:
  
   Did anyone think to make a list of the sites that offered to create mirrors
   for us or do we need to search through the archives?
  
  I have copies of all the emailed offers I received. 
  Of course there are also the various existing ftp mirror sites that may
  also be prepared to provide web mirroring.
 
 Hey Allan, remember this? Are you or anyone else interested in expanding our
 mirrorage? (I've had this mail sitting in my box for almost a year now, as
 you can see.)

Do you want the list?  I'm sure I sent that to the mailing list during the
same discussion.

Do we have instructions setup for web mirroring?  I think Alejandro said
he was using rdist?

Hmmm... When I eventually get this draft "New LyX Stable-Development
Series" PR done we could include a line or three asking for web and
anon-cvs mirror offers.

Allan. (ARRae)



Re: web site mirrors?

2000-01-05 Thread Seak, Teng-Fong

Allan Rae wrote:

 On Wed, 5 Jan 2000, Amir Karger wrote:

  Hey Allan, remember this? Are you or anyone else interested in expanding our
  mirrorage? (I've had this mail sitting in my box for almost a year now, as
  you can see.)

 Do you want the list?  I'm sure I sent that to the mailing list during the
 same discussion.

 IMO, it's not enough just to expand mirror sites list, but maintainence is also
important.  You see, right now there're 3 mirror sites.  That one in Mexico is
inaccessible, and the other two in Norway and Italy are totally out of dates (more
than half a year late).  I've reported the problem of the mirror in Italy several
months ago, but it's never corrected.  Adding mirror sites without proper
maintainence would just give the impression of anarchy.

 Seak



Re: web site mirrors?

2000-01-05 Thread Allan Rae

On Wed, 5 Jan 2000, Amir Karger wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 02, 1999 at 01:59:42PM +1000, Allan Rae wrote:
> > On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Amir Karger wrote:
> > 
> > > Did anyone think to make a list of the sites that offered to create mirrors
> > > for us or do we need to search through the archives?
> > 
> > I have copies of all the emailed offers I received. 
> > Of course there are also the various existing ftp mirror sites that may
> > also be prepared to provide web mirroring.
> 
> Hey Allan, remember this? Are you or anyone else interested in expanding our
> mirrorage? (I've had this mail sitting in my box for almost a year now, as
> you can see.)

Do you want the list?  I'm sure I sent that to the mailing list during the
same discussion.

Do we have instructions setup for web mirroring?  I think Alejandro said
he was using rdist?

Hmmm... When I eventually get this draft "New LyX Stable-Development
Series" PR done we could include a line or three asking for web and
anon-cvs mirror offers.

Allan. (ARRae)



Re: web site mirrors?

2000-01-05 Thread Seak, Teng-Fong

Allan Rae wrote:

> On Wed, 5 Jan 2000, Amir Karger wrote:
>
> > Hey Allan, remember this? Are you or anyone else interested in expanding our
> > mirrorage? (I've had this mail sitting in my box for almost a year now, as
> > you can see.)
>
> Do you want the list?  I'm sure I sent that to the mailing list during the
> same discussion.

 IMO, it's not enough just to expand mirror sites list, but maintainence is also
important.  You see, right now there're 3 mirror sites.  That one in Mexico is
inaccessible, and the other two in Norway and Italy are totally out of dates (more
than half a year late).  I've reported the problem of the mirror in Italy several
months ago, but it's never corrected.  Adding mirror sites without proper
maintainence would just give the impression of anarchy.

 Seak



Re: web site mirrors?

1999-02-02 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes

*Amir Karger writes:
 | Well, if 1.0 isn't going out today, then a really great time to do

Oh, it gets out to day!

When we for once promise something we should try to keep our promise.

Lgb



Re: web site mirrors?

1999-02-02 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

 "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Lars *Amir Karger writes: | Well, if 1.0 isn't going out today, then
Lars a really great time to do

Lars Oh, it gets out to day!

Lars When we for once promise something we should try to keep our
Lars promise.

I'm with you Lars. Don't listen to them. They just want to distract
you from The Cause.

JMarc, currently reading his mail somewhere else.



Re: web site mirrors?

1999-02-02 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

 "Allan" == Allan Rae [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Allan Not quite right.  Most offers were from private netizens doing
Allan their bit by offering to host our cvs repository on someone
Allan elses system (eg. uni machines). A couple of places were setup
Allan to provide homes or mirrors for different projects so I have
Allan included their email addresses below.  (JMarc, I recall seeing
Allan a forwarded email on the list discussing web mirroring with
Allan Jason Andrade from the mirror.aarnet site.  What happened?)

I directed him to Lars, who was supposed to contact him. I do not know
what happended next.

JMarc



Re: web site mirrors?

1999-02-02 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes

*Amir Karger writes:
 | Well, if 1.0 isn't going out today, then a really great time to do

Oh, it gets out to day!

When we for once promise something we should try to keep our promise.

Lgb



Re: web site mirrors?

1999-02-02 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Lars> *Amir Karger writes: | Well, if 1.0 isn't going out today, then
Lars> a really great time to do

Lars> Oh, it gets out to day!

Lars> When we for once promise something we should try to keep our
Lars> promise.

I'm with you Lars. Don't listen to them. They just want to distract
you from The Cause.

JMarc, currently reading his mail somewhere else.



Re: web site mirrors?

1999-02-02 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

> "Allan" == Allan Rae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Allan> Not quite right.  Most offers were from private netizens doing
Allan> their bit by offering to host our cvs repository on someone
Allan> elses system (eg. uni machines). A couple of places were setup
Allan> to provide homes or mirrors for different projects so I have
Allan> included their email addresses below.  (JMarc, I recall seeing
Allan> a forwarded email on the list discussing web mirroring with
Allan> Jason Andrade from the mirror.aarnet site.  What happened?)

I directed him to Lars, who was supposed to contact him. I do not know
what happended next.

JMarc



web site mirrors?

1999-02-01 Thread Amir Karger

During our recent begging for server space, didn't we get a bunch of offers
for web site space? I think we ought to take people up on that. You know, to
have a www.us.lyx.org etc. That way, there will be less pressure on people
to have (and maintain!) their own web sites, and access will be quicker for
everyone. devel.lyx.org might be harder to mirror because of the CVS stuff,
but www.lyx.org is the site where we're expecting a few hundred thousand
hits tomorrow :)

-Amir



Re: web site mirrors?

1999-02-01 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes

*Amir Karger writes:
 |  During our recent begging for server space, didn't we get a bunch
 | of offers for web site space? I think we ought to take people up on
 | that. You know, to have a www.us.lyx.org etc. That way, there will
 | be less pressure on people to have (and maintain!) their own web
 | sites, and access will be quicker for everyone. devel.lyx.org might
 | be harder to mirror because of the CVS stuff, but www.lyx.org is
 | the site where we're expecting a few hundred thousand hits tomorrow
 | :)

We need to setup a mirror scheme.

Should not be very hard.

using rsync.

Lgb



Re: web site mirrors?

1999-02-01 Thread Amir Karger

On Mon, Feb 01, 1999 at 09:25:13PM +0100, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
 *Amir Karger writes:
  |  During our recent begging for server space, didn't we get a bunch
  | of offers for web site space? I think we ought to take people up on
  | that. You know, to have a www.us.lyx.org etc. That way, there will
  | be less pressure on people to have (and maintain!) their own web
  | sites, and access will be quicker for everyone. devel.lyx.org might
  | be harder to mirror because of the CVS stuff, but www.lyx.org is
  | the site where we're expecting a few hundred thousand hits tomorrow
  | :)
 
 We need to setup a mirror scheme.
 
 Should not be very hard.
 
 using rsync.

Great idea!

Well, if 1.0 isn't going out today, then a really great time to do this
would be *right now*, before 1.0 does go out. And if there's any
administrative work involved, someone who can't fix bugs, write remaining
docs, etc. would be just perfect to do it.

Did anyone think to make a list of the sites that offered to create mirrors
for us or do we need to search through the archives? I assume most of these
places have mirrored lots of sites and it will be very simple to have them
mirror one more place. It would be nice eventually to alias them to
us.lyx.org and stuff, but that's less important to start with. Our first
priority is just to allow lots of hits on the off chance that a lot of
people read the press releases and decide to try it out. It couldn't hurt to
mirror the lyx source and/or binaries too, if there's enough space at the
mirror sites.

-Amir



web site mirrors?

1999-02-01 Thread Amir Karger

During our recent begging for server space, didn't we get a bunch of offers
for web site space? I think we ought to take people up on that. You know, to
have a www.us.lyx.org etc. That way, there will be less pressure on people
to have (and maintain!) their own web sites, and access will be quicker for
everyone. devel.lyx.org might be harder to mirror because of the CVS stuff,
but www.lyx.org is the site where we're expecting a few hundred thousand
hits tomorrow :)

-Amir



Re: web site mirrors?

1999-02-01 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes

*Amir Karger writes:
 |  During our recent begging for server space, didn't we get a bunch
 | of offers for web site space? I think we ought to take people up on
 | that. You know, to have a www.us.lyx.org etc. That way, there will
 | be less pressure on people to have (and maintain!) their own web
 | sites, and access will be quicker for everyone. devel.lyx.org might
 | be harder to mirror because of the CVS stuff, but www.lyx.org is
 | the site where we're expecting a few hundred thousand hits tomorrow
 | :)

We need to setup a mirror scheme.

Should not be very hard.

using rsync.

Lgb



Re: web site mirrors?

1999-02-01 Thread Amir Karger

On Mon, Feb 01, 1999 at 09:25:13PM +0100, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
> *Amir Karger writes:
>  |  During our recent begging for server space, didn't we get a bunch
>  | of offers for web site space? I think we ought to take people up on
>  | that. You know, to have a www.us.lyx.org etc. That way, there will
>  | be less pressure on people to have (and maintain!) their own web
>  | sites, and access will be quicker for everyone. devel.lyx.org might
>  | be harder to mirror because of the CVS stuff, but www.lyx.org is
>  | the site where we're expecting a few hundred thousand hits tomorrow
>  | :)
> 
> We need to setup a mirror scheme.
> 
> Should not be very hard.
> 
> using rsync.

Great idea!

Well, if 1.0 isn't going out today, then a really great time to do this
would be *right now*, before 1.0 does go out. And if there's any
administrative work involved, someone who can't fix bugs, write remaining
docs, etc. would be just perfect to do it.

Did anyone think to make a list of the sites that offered to create mirrors
for us or do we need to search through the archives? I assume most of these
places have mirrored lots of sites and it will be very simple to have them
mirror one more place. It would be nice eventually to alias them to
us.lyx.org and stuff, but that's less important to start with. Our first
priority is just to allow lots of hits on the off chance that a lot of
people read the press releases and decide to try it out. It couldn't hurt to
mirror the lyx source and/or binaries too, if there's enough space at the
mirror sites.

-Amir



Re: web site mirrors?

1999-02-01 Thread Asger Alstrup Nielsen

> Yupp, I thought the wepage will be moved to denmark to auc.

They set up an account for us and everything was getting ready, but I had a few
problems with the account, and had a bit of correspondance with the nice people
to fix it, but I think I need to remind them.

It won't happen soon, though.

Greets,

Asger