Re: Window geometry?
Paul L Lussier writes: PLL Until Paul asked the question, I never really thought about it. PLL But now seeing that there are 2 different options that need PLL setting, I wonder why the X conventions weren't followed in the PLL first place? -- A long time ago, like three years, I added -width and -height as a hack to satisfy one specific user request. No one has bothered to change it since then. Lgb -- +++ the lyx project user mailing list +++ To unsubscribe from this list send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the **Subject** unsubscribe.
Re: Window geometry?
"Paul" == Paul D Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Paul Well... first, I don't understand why the name of the app should Paul have anything to do with parsing the command-line options. Paul Sure, the name of the app is always used as the instance name Paul for X resources, but what does that have to do with the command Paul line? Not sure. I'll have to re-read the xforms manual... Paul Obviously, for xforms perhaps it does (weird!). At the very Paul least, if it's trying to combing the command-line handling with Paul the "normal" resource handling somehow, it should use the Paul resource class name "LyX", not the instance name. Maybe the error is on our side. I'll check that. jl You found it: xforms does not use Xt. I guess this means that jl handling resources a la Xt would be too difficult. Paul Bleah. When did you say you were moving to a new toolkit ? :) Currently, the toolkits considered are Qt, Gtk+, fltk and curses. None of these support Xt :-| Paul Xforms may be simple to develop with, but it sure has some Paul bletcherous aspects (the menu handling I find particularly Paul annoying :-/). Horrible, isn't it? JMarc -- +++ the lyx project user mailing list +++ To unsubscribe from this list send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the **Subject** unsubscribe.
Re: Window geometry?
%% Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: jl I think the resources (and associated options) width, height, xpos jl and ypos do what you want. Did you try them? They are documented jl in the man page. Man page? $ man lyx No manual entry for lyx. Hmm... ah, I see the problem. The LyX man page is malformed, such that catman -w (at least on Solaris) doesn't generate the right windex entry. On Solaris if the man page you ask for doesn't exist in windex, man assumes it doesn't exist at all (unless you provide the -F option). Darn annoying, but there you go. Here's a patch for the LyX man page: --- /tmp/lyx.1 Thu Feb 11 10:13:12 1999 +++ /tmp/lyx.1-new Thu Feb 11 10:07:16 1999 @@ -5,7 +5,7 @@ .\" .TH LYX 1 "October 1998" "Version 1.0" "LyX 1.0" .SH NAME -LyX \- A Document Processor +lyx \- A Document Processor .\" .\" setup .de Cr OK, I see it now. But, those options don't seem to work for me :( $ lyx -width 800 -height 800 still gives me the same size window. Is this a bug or a configuration error of some sort? In fact, no command-line options appear to work for me. Oh, wait. I see the problem. Somehow these only work if you invoke the command with the exact name "lyx" (so that's [at least the filename part of] arg[0]). I installed it as "lyx-1.0.0" and was running it with that name, and when you do that none of the command line options work. I'd say that's a bug, too. The man page also says you can set these via X resources, but it doesn't specify what resource class you need to use; trial-and-error shows that LyX works, but that you have to load the resources into the server, you can't put them in a directory on your XUSERFILESEARCHPATH, for example (I guess LyX doesn't use the Xt resource functions). Some example(s) in the man page would be very helpful. Some more points: 1) _Why_ is LyX using this oh-so-strange set of options? There sure ain't much standard about X user interfaces, but if _anything_ can be considered standard, geometry can. Also, if LyX doesn't support standard geometry and the -xrm option, it can't be handled by most session managers. This is a Bad Thing. 2) You can't use the common idiom of negative numbers to xpos and ypos, to position as an offset from the right/bottom of the window instead of the left/top. 3) This should probably be documented in the manual, somewhere, as well. -- --- Paul D. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Management Development "Please remain calm...I may be mad, but I am a professional." --Mad Scientist --- These are my opinions---Nortel Networks takes no responsibility for them. -- +++ the lyx project user mailing list +++ To unsubscribe from this list send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the **Subject** unsubscribe.
Re: Window geometry?
%% Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Paul Oh, wait. I see the problem. Somehow these only work if you Paul invoke the command with the exact name "lyx" (so that's [at Paul least the filename part of] arg[0]). I installed it as Paul "lyx-1.0.0" and was running it with that name, and when you do Paul that none of the command line options work. I'd say that's a Paul bug, too. jl Hmm, what should we use to get the options? Is arg[0] always right? jl What if arg[0] is a symlink to some other name? Well... first, I don't understand why the name of the app should have anything to do with parsing the command-line options. Sure, the name of the app is always used as the instance name for X resources, but what does that have to do with the command line? Obviously, for xforms perhaps it does (weird!). At the very least, if it's trying to combing the command-line handling with the "normal" resource handling somehow, it should use the resource class name "LyX", not the instance name. But, it doesn't appear to be. The whole thing is odd, but if you're handing argc/argv off to xforms to parse things like xpos/ypos/etc., I doubt there's much you can do except report a bug to the xforms folks. jl You found it: xforms does not use Xt. I guess this means that handling jl resources a la Xt would be too difficult. Bleah. When did you say you were moving to a new toolkit ? :) Xforms may be simple to develop with, but it sure has some bletcherous aspects (the menu handling I find particularly annoying :-/). jl JMarc, waiting for fvwm 2.2.0 to magically appear on my nearest jl mirror ftp site ;) Oh, yah, er, um, hrumph. Ahem. :) -- --- Paul D. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Management Development "Please remain calm...I may be mad, but I am a professional." --Mad Scientist --- These are my opinions---Nortel Networks takes no responsibility for them. -- +++ the lyx project user mailing list +++ To unsubscribe from this list send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the **Subject** unsubscribe.
