BiBTeX programmer's guide?

2005-10-06 Thread K. Elo
Hi,

I'm currently working on a BiBTeX style originally generated with 'latex 
makebst'. Now I try to customise the style to fit my needs e.g. to 
display some non-standard bibtex entries.

In order to find solutions for some merely logical problems within the 
code I would need a programmer's guide for BibTex. But, such a book 
seems not to exists at all. The only relevant documents I have found is 
Patashnik's Designing BiBTeX Styles, which is informative but does 
not cover all the issues I am looking for.

Does anybody know BiBTeX hacking/programming guides/manuals (or relevant 
links etc.)?

Thanks in advance!

Kind regards,
Kimmo


Re: Inserting Accented Characters easily?

2005-10-06 Thread Alain Leroux
Stacia Hartleben a écrit :

Is there a trick to inserting accented characters? I just copied in
the chars I needed but it got tedious keeping track of all those
different accented chars after a while. Sorry if it's a dumb question
but I might just be missing something very obvious...


  

I have a file whose name is leroux.sty which contains:
\catcode`\é=\active
\defé{\'e}
\catcode`\è=\active
\defè{\`e}
\catcode`\ë=\active
\defë{\e}
\catcode`\à=\active
\defà{\`a}
etc...
And when I use my keyboard (french keyboard) all the accents are
usables. For other mappings of the keyboard,  I think  the  same 
method  is  usable.
A.Leroux
A.Leroux



Re: Inserting Accented Characters easily?

2005-10-06 Thread Jose' Matos
On Thursday 06 October 2005 03:35, Stacia Hartleben wrote:
 Is there a trick to inserting accented characters? I just copied in
 the chars I needed but it got tedious keeping track of all those
 different accented chars after a while. Sorry if it's a dumb question
 but I might just be missing something very obvious...

  What is the version you are using? What is the OS where it is running?

  There were several combination of those where the insertion of accented 
characters was not working.

  Inserting an accented letter (like those in my name) in lyx it works the 
same as any other program. :-)

-- 
José Abílio


Re: BiBTeX programmer's guide?

2005-10-06 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
K. Elo wrote:
 Does anybody know BiBTeX hacking/programming guides/manuals (or relevant
 links etc.)?

I think there's not much, unfortunately, but I found this documentation quite 
useful:
ftp://tug.ctan.org/pub/tex-archive/info/bibtex/tamethebeast/ttb_en.pdf

HTH,
Jürgen


Re: Page numbers and foot-note distance

2005-10-06 Thread Jose' Matos
On Thursday 06 October 2005 04:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   2. Increase the foot-note distance from
  the body text? (it is too close to the
  body area)
 
What class are you using?

 I've tried all classes :) I just think it all was so
 close (the space between the body text and the
 foot-notes)!

  You can play with the settings in Layout-Document-Margins

  Usually I don't care with the text settings since most of the time they seem 
correct to me. :-)

 What class do you like best to fill beautifully the
 document?

  I use the cv class that comes with lyx. :-)

 --

  Abraços!
  Douglas

-- 
José Abílio


Re: BiBTeX programmer's guide?

2005-10-06 Thread K. Elo
Hi (Hallo),

Juergen Spitzmueller wrote (on 6 October 2005 10:10):
 K. Elo wrote:
  Does anybody know BiBTeX hacking/programming guides/manuals (or
  relevant links etc.)?

 I think there's not much, unfortunately, but I found this
 documentation quite useful:
 ftp://tug.ctan.org/pub/tex-archive/info/bibtex/tamethebeast/ttb_en.pd
f

 HTH,
 Jürgen

Well, this is very much what I'm looking for (goes well beyond what 
Mittelbach and Goossens write in their The LaTeX Companion (2nd 
ed.)). Many thanks / Tausend Dank!

Greetings / Grüße
Kimmo


Re: BiBTeX programmer's guide?

2005-10-06 Thread Martin A. Hansen
do we have a list of suggested reading on the wiki?

i could write an abstract of lshort and the latex companion, if need be.


cheers


martin

On 06/10/05, Juergen Spitzmueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 K. Elo wrote:
  Does anybody know BiBTeX hacking/programming guides/manuals (or relevant
  links etc.)?

 I think there's not much, unfortunately, but I found this documentation quite
 useful:
 ftp://tug.ctan.org/pub/tex-archive/info/bibtex/tamethebeast/ttb_en.pdf

 HTH,
 Jürgen



Re: BiBTeX programmer's guide?

2005-10-06 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Martin A. Hansen wrote:
 do we have a list of suggested reading on the wiki?

 i could write an abstract of lshort and the latex companion, if need be.

That's certainly a very good idea.

Jürgen


Re: Page numbers and foot-note distance

2005-10-06 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
         2. Increase the foot-note distance from
            the body text? (it is too close to the
            body area)

You can try something like:

\renewcommand\footnoterule{%
% distance body -- footnoterule
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]@width1.5cm%
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
% distance footnoterule -- footnotes
  \vspace{0.2em}
}%

or use the package footmisc, which is well documented.

Jürgen


Re: BiBTeX programmer's guide?

2005-10-06 Thread chr
On Thu, 6 Oct 2005, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:

 Martin A. Hansen wrote:
  do we have a list of suggested reading on the wiki?
 
  i could write an abstract of lshort and the latex companion, if need be.
 
 That's certainly a very good idea.

I agree, sounds like an excellent idea.

If you do, how about simply putting the text on this page (which I for 
this purpose just created and linked to from the proper places):

http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/SuggestedReading

If you prefer another name for the page, we can just change.

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: Inserting Accented Characters easily?

2005-10-06 Thread Helge Hafting

Stacia Hartleben wrote:


Is there a trick to inserting accented characters? I just copied in
the chars I needed but it got tedious keeping track of all those
different accented chars after a while. Sorry if it's a dumb question
but I might just be missing something very obvious...
 


Set up your keyboard so it generates accented characters easily.
That helps for all apps, not just lyx.

Languages with a few non-ascii characters tend to map them to their
own keys.  Example: A norwegian keyboard has keys for æ, ø, and å,
which works in lyx and everywhere else.

Languages that uses lots of accents tend to use a dead-key approach.
That is, type an accent key.  Nothing happens, but the next letter typed
will have that accent.  My keyboard does that for:
éýúíóá èùìòà ëÿüïöä êûîôâ ũĩõãñ
And if you want the accent without a letter under, you
have to type the dead accent first, followed by a space.
That's how I get: `^~  I don't need that trick for ', because
the ' also exists on a non-dead key on my keyboard.

If you're using linux, try holding down the altgr/right alt key
and see what you get when typing.  Lots of uncommon characters
are mapped that way, giving me such things as:
P þ
o œ
s ß
d ð
f đ
g ŋ
h ħ
z «
x »
c ©
v “
b ”
m µ

Helge Hafting


Re: Download Classes

2005-10-06 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Carlos Knauer wrote:

Hi.
 From where do I download classes (or layouts) for LyX ?
Thanks,


--
Carlos Fernando Knauer



Classes are part of your LaTeX distribution.  Most of the available LyX 
layouts ship with LyX, but there are some user-contributed ones on the 
Wiki:  http://wiki.lyx.org/Layouts/Layouts.  If you need a layout for 
class not covered by one of those sources, you have to write your own 
(or induce someone to write it for you).  Writing your own is discussed 
in the documentation, and there are links to one or two articles on the 
Wiki layout page.


Paul




Re: Inserting Accented Characters easily?

2005-10-06 Thread JORGE A. HERNANDO

In my machine (linux, lyx1.3.5) with language english us_international
(or something like that) if, for example, I write in french, the 
accent aigu (how is it said in english?) is '+a = á, the grave is 
`+a = à and so on.  

Hope it will help 

jorge


On Wed, 5 Oct 2005, Stacia Hartleben wrote:

 Is there a trick to inserting accented characters? I just copied in
 the chars I needed but it got tedious keeping track of all those
 different accented chars after a while. Sorry if it's a dumb question
 but I might just be missing something very obvious...
 

-- 

-
# # #
#  Dr. Jorge A. Hernando  #   e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  # 
#  Physics Dept., CNEA#   phone: 54-11-6772-7106#
#  Av. Gral Paz 1499  #   fax:   54-11-6772-7121# 
#  (1650) San Martin  # #
#  Pcia Buenos Aires  # #
#  Argentina  # #
-




Re: Page numbers and foot-note distance

2005-10-06 Thread Uwe Stöhr

mywebs2005 wrote:


How can I:
 
2. Increase the foot-note distance from

   the body text? (it is too close to the
   body area)


Change the length \footskip e.g.

\setlength{\footskip}{1cm}

see
http://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/PaperLayout
and especially
http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/Tips/paperLayout/paperDistances.png

regards Uwe


Hyphenation --- but before: Thank you!

2005-10-06 Thread mywebs2005-lyx
Thanks a lot everyone!

I've never saw so good and swift answers in a mail
list before this! I solved the problem again. Hence
cause  of you!

About hyphens: I need to write the most part of my
docs in portuguese and some in spanish langs. But the
LaTeX always hyphenize the document. It is great, and
it always do it correctly in english, but sometimes it
is wrong in portuguese, like cat-egoria (the right
way is ca-te-go-ri-a. Well, I know it is easy put
manual hyphen on each critical words, but I need some
easy way to do it --- once the Lyx purpose is the user
'do his best text, and let the Lyx work on the
format', it's nonsense to correct the LaTeX
hyphenation. :)

Any sugestions? Maybe some resource to turn off
the LaTeX hyphenation job?

Take care!

--

 Abraços!
 Douglas










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Re: Poor men's scientific workplace.

2005-10-06 Thread Bo Peng
On 10/3/05, Bo Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Oh, I see, this is poor men's scientific workplace.


I get his first complain against lyx today: The lyx file is corrupted
after I edit your formula, I hope that you can open this file The
real problem, as I later found out, is that he accidentally inserted a
math symbol \times in a \textrm box, a problem I had asked for a
thorough solution many times in this list.

I think this is a perfect complain from a new lyx user, warning us
about the userfriendlyness of lyx. There are good reasons why lyx
behaves this way but this little problem may have driven hundreds of
lyx users away.

As a matter of fact,
1. lyx1.2.x automatically switch to math mode if a user enter a math
symbol in a text box. This worked very well in practise.
2. lyx 1.3.x introduces nested ?? and allows insertion of math symbol
in text mode. This has caused *many* problems for new users. Note that
this problem is hard to find even in an exported latex file.

Andre'  insisted that users *should be able to tell blue (math) from
black (text) and a black math symbol is enough to indicate a wrong
formula'. However, in reality,

1. Many users do not know latex that well to know $\textrm{\alpha}$ is wrong.
2. Many users do not know the difference between blue and black symbols.
3. The error message does not help. There may be several errors, far
away from the original location, and tell something totally
irrelevant. This is enough to scare newbies away.

I remember that one technique problem was that we can not list all
math symbols so we do not know exactly what is *not* allowed in
\textrm. However, statistically speaking, it is more than enough to
disallow 100 commonly used symbols in \textrm. I assume that the rest
of the 0.01% users, if they know some rarely used symbols, must have
known latex/lyx well enough to figure out the problem by themselves.

Bo


An interesting little problem.

2005-10-06 Thread Bo Peng
Dear list,

To track the changes of a lyx file, I insert $Rev$ in the text. After
first 'svn ci', $Rev$ is replaced by $Rev: 40 $. However, when I open
and save this file, $Rev: 40 $ is replaced by $Rev:40$  (blank spaces
are removed) which can no longer be recognized by subversion.

Anyone know a quick solution?

Bo.


BiBTeX programmer's guide?

2005-10-06 Thread K. Elo
Hi,

I'm currently working on a BiBTeX style originally generated with 'latex 
makebst'. Now I try to customise the style to fit my needs e.g. to 
display some non-standard bibtex entries.

In order to find solutions for some merely logical problems within the 
code I would need a programmer's guide for BibTex. But, such a book 
seems not to exists at all. The only relevant documents I have found is 
Patashnik's Designing BiBTeX Styles, which is informative but does 
not cover all the issues I am looking for.

Does anybody know BiBTeX hacking/programming guides/manuals (or relevant 
links etc.)?

Thanks in advance!

Kind regards,
Kimmo


Re: Inserting Accented Characters easily?

2005-10-06 Thread Alain Leroux
Stacia Hartleben a écrit :

Is there a trick to inserting accented characters? I just copied in
the chars I needed but it got tedious keeping track of all those
different accented chars after a while. Sorry if it's a dumb question
but I might just be missing something very obvious...


  

I have a file whose name is leroux.sty which contains:
\catcode`\é=\active
\defé{\'e}
\catcode`\è=\active
\defè{\`e}
\catcode`\ë=\active
\defë{\e}
\catcode`\à=\active
\defà{\`a}
etc...
And when I use my keyboard (french keyboard) all the accents are
usables. For other mappings of the keyboard,  I think  the  same 
method  is  usable.
A.Leroux
A.Leroux



Re: Inserting Accented Characters easily?

2005-10-06 Thread Jose' Matos
On Thursday 06 October 2005 03:35, Stacia Hartleben wrote:
 Is there a trick to inserting accented characters? I just copied in
 the chars I needed but it got tedious keeping track of all those
 different accented chars after a while. Sorry if it's a dumb question
 but I might just be missing something very obvious...

  What is the version you are using? What is the OS where it is running?

  There were several combination of those where the insertion of accented 
characters was not working.

  Inserting an accented letter (like those in my name) in lyx it works the 
same as any other program. :-)

-- 
José Abílio


Re: BiBTeX programmer's guide?

2005-10-06 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
K. Elo wrote:
 Does anybody know BiBTeX hacking/programming guides/manuals (or relevant
 links etc.)?

I think there's not much, unfortunately, but I found this documentation quite 
useful:
ftp://tug.ctan.org/pub/tex-archive/info/bibtex/tamethebeast/ttb_en.pdf

HTH,
Jürgen


Re: Page numbers and foot-note distance

2005-10-06 Thread Jose' Matos
On Thursday 06 October 2005 04:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   2. Increase the foot-note distance from
  the body text? (it is too close to the
  body area)
 
What class are you using?

 I've tried all classes :) I just think it all was so
 close (the space between the body text and the
 foot-notes)!

  You can play with the settings in Layout-Document-Margins

  Usually I don't care with the text settings since most of the time they seem 
correct to me. :-)

 What class do you like best to fill beautifully the
 document?

  I use the cv class that comes with lyx. :-)

 --

  Abraços!
  Douglas

-- 
José Abílio


Re: BiBTeX programmer's guide?

2005-10-06 Thread K. Elo
Hi (Hallo),

Juergen Spitzmueller wrote (on 6 October 2005 10:10):
 K. Elo wrote:
  Does anybody know BiBTeX hacking/programming guides/manuals (or
  relevant links etc.)?

 I think there's not much, unfortunately, but I found this
 documentation quite useful:
 ftp://tug.ctan.org/pub/tex-archive/info/bibtex/tamethebeast/ttb_en.pd
f

 HTH,
 Jürgen

Well, this is very much what I'm looking for (goes well beyond what 
Mittelbach and Goossens write in their The LaTeX Companion (2nd 
ed.)). Many thanks / Tausend Dank!

Greetings / Grüße
Kimmo


Re: BiBTeX programmer's guide?

2005-10-06 Thread Martin A. Hansen
do we have a list of suggested reading on the wiki?

i could write an abstract of lshort and the latex companion, if need be.


cheers


martin

On 06/10/05, Juergen Spitzmueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 K. Elo wrote:
  Does anybody know BiBTeX hacking/programming guides/manuals (or relevant
  links etc.)?

 I think there's not much, unfortunately, but I found this documentation quite
 useful:
 ftp://tug.ctan.org/pub/tex-archive/info/bibtex/tamethebeast/ttb_en.pdf

 HTH,
 Jürgen



Re: BiBTeX programmer's guide?

2005-10-06 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Martin A. Hansen wrote:
 do we have a list of suggested reading on the wiki?

 i could write an abstract of lshort and the latex companion, if need be.

That's certainly a very good idea.

Jürgen


Re: Page numbers and foot-note distance

2005-10-06 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
         2. Increase the foot-note distance from
            the body text? (it is too close to the
            body area)

You can try something like:

\renewcommand\footnoterule{%
% distance body -- footnoterule
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]@width1.5cm%
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
% distance footnoterule -- footnotes
  \vspace{0.2em}
}%

or use the package footmisc, which is well documented.

Jürgen


Re: BiBTeX programmer's guide?

2005-10-06 Thread chr
On Thu, 6 Oct 2005, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:

 Martin A. Hansen wrote:
  do we have a list of suggested reading on the wiki?
 
  i could write an abstract of lshort and the latex companion, if need be.
 
 That's certainly a very good idea.

I agree, sounds like an excellent idea.

If you do, how about simply putting the text on this page (which I for 
this purpose just created and linked to from the proper places):

http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/SuggestedReading

If you prefer another name for the page, we can just change.

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: Inserting Accented Characters easily?

2005-10-06 Thread Helge Hafting

Stacia Hartleben wrote:


Is there a trick to inserting accented characters? I just copied in
the chars I needed but it got tedious keeping track of all those
different accented chars after a while. Sorry if it's a dumb question
but I might just be missing something very obvious...
 


Set up your keyboard so it generates accented characters easily.
That helps for all apps, not just lyx.

Languages with a few non-ascii characters tend to map them to their
own keys.  Example: A norwegian keyboard has keys for æ, ø, and å,
which works in lyx and everywhere else.

Languages that uses lots of accents tend to use a dead-key approach.
That is, type an accent key.  Nothing happens, but the next letter typed
will have that accent.  My keyboard does that for:
éýúíóá èùìòà ëÿüïöä êûîôâ ũĩõãñ
And if you want the accent without a letter under, you
have to type the dead accent first, followed by a space.
That's how I get: `^~  I don't need that trick for ', because
the ' also exists on a non-dead key on my keyboard.

If you're using linux, try holding down the altgr/right alt key
and see what you get when typing.  Lots of uncommon characters
are mapped that way, giving me such things as:
P þ
o œ
s ß
d ð
f đ
g ŋ
h ħ
z «
x »
c ©
v “
b ”
m µ

Helge Hafting


Re: Download Classes

2005-10-06 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Carlos Knauer wrote:

Hi.
 From where do I download classes (or layouts) for LyX ?
Thanks,


--
Carlos Fernando Knauer



Classes are part of your LaTeX distribution.  Most of the available LyX 
layouts ship with LyX, but there are some user-contributed ones on the 
Wiki:  http://wiki.lyx.org/Layouts/Layouts.  If you need a layout for 
class not covered by one of those sources, you have to write your own 
(or induce someone to write it for you).  Writing your own is discussed 
in the documentation, and there are links to one or two articles on the 
Wiki layout page.


Paul




Re: Inserting Accented Characters easily?

2005-10-06 Thread JORGE A. HERNANDO

In my machine (linux, lyx1.3.5) with language english us_international
(or something like that) if, for example, I write in french, the 
accent aigu (how is it said in english?) is '+a = á, the grave is 
`+a = à and so on.  

Hope it will help 

jorge


On Wed, 5 Oct 2005, Stacia Hartleben wrote:

 Is there a trick to inserting accented characters? I just copied in
 the chars I needed but it got tedious keeping track of all those
 different accented chars after a while. Sorry if it's a dumb question
 but I might just be missing something very obvious...
 

-- 

-
# # #
#  Dr. Jorge A. Hernando  #   e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  # 
#  Physics Dept., CNEA#   phone: 54-11-6772-7106#
#  Av. Gral Paz 1499  #   fax:   54-11-6772-7121# 
#  (1650) San Martin  # #
#  Pcia Buenos Aires  # #
#  Argentina  # #
-




Re: Page numbers and foot-note distance

2005-10-06 Thread Uwe Stöhr

mywebs2005 wrote:


How can I:
 
2. Increase the foot-note distance from

   the body text? (it is too close to the
   body area)


Change the length \footskip e.g.

\setlength{\footskip}{1cm}

see
http://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/PaperLayout
and especially
http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/Tips/paperLayout/paperDistances.png

regards Uwe


Hyphenation --- but before: Thank you!

2005-10-06 Thread mywebs2005-lyx
Thanks a lot everyone!

I've never saw so good and swift answers in a mail
list before this! I solved the problem again. Hence
cause  of you!

About hyphens: I need to write the most part of my
docs in portuguese and some in spanish langs. But the
LaTeX always hyphenize the document. It is great, and
it always do it correctly in english, but sometimes it
is wrong in portuguese, like cat-egoria (the right
way is ca-te-go-ri-a. Well, I know it is easy put
manual hyphen on each critical words, but I need some
easy way to do it --- once the Lyx purpose is the user
'do his best text, and let the Lyx work on the
format', it's nonsense to correct the LaTeX
hyphenation. :)

Any sugestions? Maybe some resource to turn off
the LaTeX hyphenation job?

Take care!

--

 Abraços!
 Douglas










___ 
Novo Yahoo! Messenger com voz: ligações, Yahoo! Avatars, novos emoticons e 
muito mais. Instale agora! 
www.yahoo.com.br/messenger/


Re: Poor men's scientific workplace.

2005-10-06 Thread Bo Peng
On 10/3/05, Bo Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Oh, I see, this is poor men's scientific workplace.


I get his first complain against lyx today: The lyx file is corrupted
after I edit your formula, I hope that you can open this file The
real problem, as I later found out, is that he accidentally inserted a
math symbol \times in a \textrm box, a problem I had asked for a
thorough solution many times in this list.

I think this is a perfect complain from a new lyx user, warning us
about the userfriendlyness of lyx. There are good reasons why lyx
behaves this way but this little problem may have driven hundreds of
lyx users away.

As a matter of fact,
1. lyx1.2.x automatically switch to math mode if a user enter a math
symbol in a text box. This worked very well in practise.
2. lyx 1.3.x introduces nested ?? and allows insertion of math symbol
in text mode. This has caused *many* problems for new users. Note that
this problem is hard to find even in an exported latex file.

Andre'  insisted that users *should be able to tell blue (math) from
black (text) and a black math symbol is enough to indicate a wrong
formula'. However, in reality,

1. Many users do not know latex that well to know $\textrm{\alpha}$ is wrong.
2. Many users do not know the difference between blue and black symbols.
3. The error message does not help. There may be several errors, far
away from the original location, and tell something totally
irrelevant. This is enough to scare newbies away.

I remember that one technique problem was that we can not list all
math symbols so we do not know exactly what is *not* allowed in
\textrm. However, statistically speaking, it is more than enough to
disallow 100 commonly used symbols in \textrm. I assume that the rest
of the 0.01% users, if they know some rarely used symbols, must have
known latex/lyx well enough to figure out the problem by themselves.

Bo


An interesting little problem.

2005-10-06 Thread Bo Peng
Dear list,

To track the changes of a lyx file, I insert $Rev$ in the text. After
first 'svn ci', $Rev$ is replaced by $Rev: 40 $. However, when I open
and save this file, $Rev: 40 $ is replaced by $Rev:40$  (blank spaces
are removed) which can no longer be recognized by subversion.

Anyone know a quick solution?

Bo.


BiBTeX programmer's guide?

2005-10-06 Thread K. Elo
Hi,

I'm currently working on a BiBTeX style originally generated with 'latex 
makebst'. Now I try to customise the style to fit my needs e.g. to 
display some non-standard bibtex entries.

In order to find solutions for some merely logical problems within the 
code I would need a "programmer's guide" for BibTex. But, such a book 
seems not to exists at all. The only relevant documents I have found is 
Patashnik's "Designing BiBTeX Styles", which is informative but does 
not cover all the issues I am looking for.

Does anybody know BiBTeX hacking/programming guides/manuals (or relevant 
links etc.)?

Thanks in advance!

Kind regards,
Kimmo


Re: Inserting Accented Characters easily?

2005-10-06 Thread Alain Leroux
Stacia Hartleben a écrit :

>Is there a trick to inserting accented characters? I just copied in
>the chars I needed but it got tedious keeping track of all those
>different accented chars after a while. Sorry if it's a dumb question
>but I might just be missing something very obvious...
>
>
>  
>
I have a file whose name is leroux.sty which contains:
\catcode`\é=\active
\defé{\'e}
\catcode`\è=\active
\defè{\`e}
\catcode`\ë=\active
\defë{\"e}
\catcode`\à=\active
\defà{\`a}
etc...
And when I use my keyboard (french keyboard) all the accents are
usables. For other mappings of the keyboard,  I think  the  same 
method  is  usable.
A.Leroux
A.Leroux



Re: Inserting Accented Characters easily?

2005-10-06 Thread Jose' Matos
On Thursday 06 October 2005 03:35, Stacia Hartleben wrote:
> Is there a trick to inserting accented characters? I just copied in
> the chars I needed but it got tedious keeping track of all those
> different accented chars after a while. Sorry if it's a dumb question
> but I might just be missing something very obvious...

  What is the version you are using? What is the OS where it is running?

  There were several combination of those where the insertion of accented 
characters was not working.

  Inserting an accented letter (like those in my name) in lyx it works the 
same as any other program. :-)

-- 
José Abílio


Re: BiBTeX programmer's guide?

2005-10-06 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
K. Elo wrote:
> Does anybody know BiBTeX hacking/programming guides/manuals (or relevant
> links etc.)?

I think there's not much, unfortunately, but I found this documentation quite 
useful:
ftp://tug.ctan.org/pub/tex-archive/info/bibtex/tamethebeast/ttb_en.pdf

HTH,
Jürgen


Re: Page numbers and foot-note distance

2005-10-06 Thread Jose' Matos
On Thursday 06 October 2005 04:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > 2. Increase the foot-note distance from
> > >the body text? (it is too close to the
> > >body area)
> >
> >   What class are you using?
>
> I've tried all classes :) I just think it all was so
> close (the space between the body text and the
> foot-notes)!

  You can play with the settings in Layout->Document->Margins

  Usually I don't care with the text settings since most of the time they seem 
correct to me. :-)

> What class do you like best to fill beautifully the
> document?

  I use the cv class that comes with lyx. :-)

> --
>
>  Abraços!
>  Douglas

-- 
José Abílio


Re: BiBTeX programmer's guide?

2005-10-06 Thread K. Elo
Hi (Hallo),

Juergen Spitzmueller wrote (on 6 October 2005 10:10):
> K. Elo wrote:
> > Does anybody know BiBTeX hacking/programming guides/manuals (or
> > relevant links etc.)?
>
> I think there's not much, unfortunately, but I found this
> documentation quite useful:
> ftp://tug.ctan.org/pub/tex-archive/info/bibtex/tamethebeast/ttb_en.pd
>f
>
> HTH,
> Jürgen

Well, this is very much what I'm looking for (goes well beyond what 
Mittelbach and Goossens write in their "The LaTeX Companion" (2nd 
ed.)). Many thanks / Tausend Dank!

Greetings / Grüße
Kimmo


Re: BiBTeX programmer's guide?

2005-10-06 Thread Martin A. Hansen
do we have a list of "suggested reading" on the wiki?

i could write an abstract of lshort and the latex companion, if need be.


cheers


martin

On 06/10/05, Juergen Spitzmueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> K. Elo wrote:
> > Does anybody know BiBTeX hacking/programming guides/manuals (or relevant
> > links etc.)?
>
> I think there's not much, unfortunately, but I found this documentation quite
> useful:
> ftp://tug.ctan.org/pub/tex-archive/info/bibtex/tamethebeast/ttb_en.pdf
>
> HTH,
> Jürgen
>


Re: BiBTeX programmer's guide?

2005-10-06 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Martin A. Hansen wrote:
> do we have a list of "suggested reading" on the wiki?
>
> i could write an abstract of lshort and the latex companion, if need be.

That's certainly a very good idea.

Jürgen


Re: Page numbers and foot-note distance

2005-10-06 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>         2. Increase the foot-note distance from
>            the body text? (it is too close to the
>            body area)

You can try something like:

\renewcommand\footnoterule{%
% distance body -- footnoterule
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]@width1.5cm%
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
% distance footnoterule -- footnotes
  \vspace{0.2em}
}%

or use the package footmisc, which is well documented.

Jürgen


Re: BiBTeX programmer's guide?

2005-10-06 Thread chr
On Thu, 6 Oct 2005, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:

> Martin A. Hansen wrote:
> > do we have a list of "suggested reading" on the wiki?
> >
> > i could write an abstract of lshort and the latex companion, if need be.
> 
> That's certainly a very good idea.

I agree, sounds like an excellent idea.

If you do, how about simply putting the text on this page (which I for 
this purpose just created and linked to from the proper places):

http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/SuggestedReading

If you prefer another name for the page, we can just change.

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: Inserting Accented Characters easily?

2005-10-06 Thread Helge Hafting

Stacia Hartleben wrote:


Is there a trick to inserting accented characters? I just copied in
the chars I needed but it got tedious keeping track of all those
different accented chars after a while. Sorry if it's a dumb question
but I might just be missing something very obvious...
 


Set up your keyboard so it generates accented characters easily.
That helps for all apps, not just lyx.

Languages with a few non-ascii characters tend to map them to their
own keys.  Example: A norwegian keyboard has keys for æ, ø, and å,
which works in lyx and everywhere else.

Languages that uses lots of accents tend to use a dead-key approach.
That is, type an "accent key".  Nothing happens, but the next letter typed
will have that accent.  My keyboard does that for:
éýúíóá èùìòà ëÿüïöä êûîôâ ũĩõãñ
And if you want the accent without a letter under, you
have to type the dead accent first, followed by a space.
That's how I get: `^~  I don't need that trick for ', because
the ' also exists on a non-dead key on my keyboard.

If you're using linux, try holding down the altgr/right alt key
and see what you get when typing.  Lots of uncommon characters
are mapped that way, giving me such things as:
P þ
o œ
s ß
d ð
f đ
g ŋ
h ħ
z «
x »
c ©
v “
b ”
m µ

Helge Hafting


Re: Download Classes

2005-10-06 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Carlos Knauer wrote:

Hi.
 From where do I download classes (or layouts) for LyX ?
Thanks,


--
Carlos Fernando Knauer



Classes are part of your LaTeX distribution.  Most of the available LyX 
layouts ship with LyX, but there are some user-contributed ones on the 
Wiki:  http://wiki.lyx.org/Layouts/Layouts.  If you need a layout for 
class not covered by one of those sources, you have to write your own 
(or induce someone to write it for you).  Writing your own is discussed 
in the documentation, and there are links to one or two articles on the 
Wiki layout page.


Paul




Re: Inserting Accented Characters easily?

2005-10-06 Thread JORGE A. HERNANDO

In my machine (linux, lyx1.3.5) with language english us_international
(or something like that) if, for example, I write in french, the 
"accent aigu" (how is it said in english?) is '+a => á, the grave is 
`+a => à and so on.  

Hope it will help 

jorge


On Wed, 5 Oct 2005, Stacia Hartleben wrote:

> Is there a trick to inserting accented characters? I just copied in
> the chars I needed but it got tedious keeping track of all those
> different accented chars after a while. Sorry if it's a dumb question
> but I might just be missing something very obvious...
> 

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Re: Page numbers and foot-note distance

2005-10-06 Thread Uwe Stöhr

mywebs2005 wrote:


How can I:
 
2. Increase the foot-note distance from

   the body text? (it is too close to the
   body area)


Change the length \footskip e.g.

\setlength{\footskip}{1cm}

see
http://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/PaperLayout
and especially
http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/Tips/paperLayout/paperDistances.png

regards Uwe


Hyphenation --- but before: Thank you!

2005-10-06 Thread mywebs2005-lyx
Thanks a lot everyone!

I've never saw so good and swift answers in a mail
list before this! I solved the problem again. Hence
cause  of you!

About hyphens: I need to write the most part of my
docs in portuguese and some in spanish langs. But the
LaTeX always hyphenize the document. It is great, and
it always do it correctly in english, but sometimes it
is wrong in portuguese, like "cat-egoria" (the right
way is "ca-te-go-ri-a". Well, I know it is easy put
manual hyphen on each critical words, but I need some
easy way to do it --- once the Lyx purpose is the user
'do his best text, and let the Lyx work on the
format', it's nonsense to correct the LaTeX
hyphenation. :)

Any sugestions? Maybe some resource to turn off
the LaTeX hyphenation job?

Take care!

--

 Abraços!
 Douglas










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Re: Poor men's scientific workplace.

2005-10-06 Thread Bo Peng
On 10/3/05, Bo Peng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Oh, I see, this is poor men's scientific workplace".
>

I get his first complain against lyx today: "The lyx file is corrupted
after I edit your formula, I hope that you can open this file...". The
real problem, as I later found out, is that he accidentally inserted a
math symbol \times in a \textrm box, a problem I had asked for a
thorough solution many times in this list.

I think this is a perfect complain from a new lyx user, warning us
about the userfriendlyness of lyx. There are good reasons why lyx
behaves this way but this little problem may have driven hundreds of
lyx users away.

As a matter of fact,
1. lyx1.2.x automatically switch to math mode if a user enter a math
symbol in a text box. This worked very well in practise.
2. lyx 1.3.x introduces nested ?? and allows insertion of math symbol
in text mode. This has caused *many* problems for new users. Note that
this problem is hard to find even in an exported latex file.

Andre'  insisted that users *should be able to tell blue (math) from
black (text) and a black math symbol is enough to indicate a wrong
formula'. However, in reality,

1. Many users do not know latex that well to know $\textrm{\alpha}$ is wrong.
2. Many users do not know the difference between blue and black symbols.
3. The error message does not help. There may be several errors, far
away from the original location, and tell something totally
irrelevant. This is enough to scare newbies away.

I remember that one technique problem was that we can not list all
math symbols so we do not know exactly what is *not* allowed in
\textrm. However, statistically speaking, it is more than enough to
disallow 100 commonly used symbols in \textrm. I assume that the rest
of the 0.01% users, if they know some rarely used symbols, must have
known latex/lyx well enough to figure out the problem by themselves.

Bo


An interesting little problem.

2005-10-06 Thread Bo Peng
Dear list,

To track the changes of a lyx file, I insert $Rev$ in the text. After
first 'svn ci', $Rev$ is replaced by $Rev: 40 $. However, when I open
and save this file, $Rev: 40 $ is replaced by $Rev:40$  (blank spaces
are removed) which can no longer be recognized by subversion.

Anyone know a quick solution?

Bo.