Re: annoying behaviour in 1.4

2007-03-08 Thread peter ljunglöf


7 mar 2007 kl. 19.14 skrev Paul A. Rubin:


Peter Ljunglöf wrote:
* The most important thing is the function 'word-forward' (bound  
to C-right). Previously it moved the cursor to the end of the  
current word (or the next if it already was at the end). That's  
the standard behaviour in most word processors and text editors.  
Now the cursor is moved to the beginning of the next word.


I just checked a few programs.  C-right moves the cursor to the  
_start_ of the next word in: MS Office; WordPerfect; NoteTab; MS  
Notepad; and MS Wordpad.  This is on Win XP; maybe things work  
differently on a Mac?


Hmm, interesting - it looks like there's a difference between Mac and  
Win. On my Mac (OSX 10.4), the behaviour is the following:


Moved to the _start_ of the _next_ word:
* Word 2004 for Mac
* OpenOffice and NeoOffice

Moved to the _end_ of the _current_ word:
* TextEdit
* Mac Mail
* GNUMail
* TeXShop
* BibDesk
* Emacs (both CarbonEmacs and AquamacsEmacs)
* Script Editor
* Mozilla Seamonkey HTML Composer

Anyway, I'm okay with moving the cursor to the start of the next  
word, _except_ in the following cases:


* When there's a punctuation character inbetween - then it should  
stop before the dot, comma, semicolon, dash or whatever.

* When there's inline math - then it should stop before the math.

This is in fact what MS Word does, and that's why Word is not  
annoying (in the cursor moving sense, that is:)


So, that is my humble wish - to get decent cursor movement back into  
LyX...


regards, Peter

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Re: annoying behaviour in 1.4

2007-03-08 Thread peter ljunglöf


7 mar 2007 kl. 22.40 skrev Jean-Marc Lasgouttes:


Gunnar == Gunnar  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:



moved to the beginning of the next word. Apart from being just odd,
there's a real problem with that: If I have the text firstword
[MATH] secondword, and the cursor is at firstword, then I can
not move (quickly) to the beginning of the [MATH] stuff, since
C-right just moves past the math to the beginning of secondword.

Was this change intentional, or just a mistake?


Gunnar I think I reported it as a bug, but it was nothing that could
Gunnar be done, if I remember correctly. But I agree that it would be
Gunnar good if it didn't behave that way.

Well, the intention is that a word is a word. If you want Ctrl+Right
to go to math insets too, would you like it to consider math insets
for spell checking too. I guess the answer is no :)

So what would be the precise definition of a word for jumping? We do
not want all insets, do we? And we have to settle on a definition that
pleases _everybody_.


There are two alternatives:

* The Windows way: move to the start of the next word OR punctuation  
mark (or inline math), whichever comes first.

* The MacOS way: move to the end of the current word.

I'm okay with either, but not with the current implementation.

regards, Peter

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  peter ljunglöf, göteborgs universitet





What has happend to lyx.org?

2007-03-08 Thread Gunnar Lindholm
Any ETA on when it will return?

Best wishes
Gunnar


Re: degree symbol in lyx on ubuntu with the Compose key

2007-03-08 Thread John Pye
Hi Michael,

I'm still trying to work out what's stopping my degree symbol from
showing up..

Michael Wojcik wrote:
 You could probably suppress that by filtering the LyX output through
 something to strip out the control characters.  For example:

 lyx -dbg key 21 | tr -dc '[:print:]\n'

 That should remove all characters that aren't printable, except newline.
That worked very nicely! You are wasted on the Windows world! The output
is at the bottom (ctrl-N r-alt ' e r-alt ^ 0). Lyx says Oof. Can't
encode the text ! -- which sounds like an error message, maybe?

Cheers
JP


Init key to 65535, Greek_psi
isOK is 1
isOK is 1
Init key to 65535, Greek_omega
isOK is 1
isOK is 1
Init key to 65535, Greek_switch
isOK is 1
isOK is 1
Warning: this system's locale uses Unicode.
Language code:en_US
Setting new encoding for Qt:iso8859-1
Setting key to 4129,
KeySym is Control_L
isOK is 1
isMod is 1
isModifier true
Setting key to 78,
KeySym is
isOK is 1
isMod is 0
encoding is
Using codec ISO 8859-1
ISOEncoded returning value 14
void LyXFunc::processKeySym(boost::shared_ptrLyXKeySym,
key_modifier::state) action first set to [3]
void LyXFunc::processKeySym(boost::shared_ptrLyXKeySym,
key_modifier::state)action now set to [3]
void LyXFunc::processKeySym(boost::shared_ptrLyXKeySym,
key_modifier::state) Key [action=3][Ctrl+N]
sending IMStart with 0 chars to 0x86031c8
sending IMEnd with 1 chars to 0x86031c8, text=
Setting key to 0,
KeySym is
isOK is 1
isMod is 0
encoding is iso8859-1
Using codec ISO 8859-1
ISOEncoded returning value 233
void LyXFunc::processKeySym(boost::shared_ptrLyXKeySym,
key_modifier::state) action first set to [-1]
void LyXFunc::processKeySym(boost::shared_ptrLyXKeySym,
key_modifier::state)action now set to [-1]
void LyXFunc::processKeySym(boost::shared_ptrLyXKeySym,
key_modifier::state) Key [action=-1][]
isText for key 0 isPrint is 1
isText() is true, inserting.
Cannot decode:
SelfInsert arg[`']
Setting key to 4128,
KeySym is Shift_L
isOK is 1
isMod is 1
isModifier true
sending IMStart with 0 chars to 0x86031c8
sending IMEnd with 1 chars to 0x86031c8, text=
Setting key to 0, ?
KeySym is ?
isOK is 1
isMod is 0
encoding is iso8859-1
Using codec ISO 8859-1
Oof. Can't encode the text !
ISOEncoded returning value 0
void LyXFunc::processKeySym(boost::shared_ptrLyXKeySym,
key_modifier::state) action first set to [-1]
void LyXFunc::processKeySym(boost::shared_ptrLyXKeySym,
key_modifier::state)action now set to [-1]
void LyXFunc::processKeySym(boost::shared_ptrLyXKeySym,
key_modifier::state) Key [action=-1][]
isText for key 0 isPrint is 1
isText() is true, inserting.
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Re: Another pdf question

2007-03-08 Thread Charles de Miramon
Oisin Feeley wrote:


 But, it looks like there's a Google Summer of Code project proposal to
 provide annotations to PDF in Evince (one of the popular GNU/Linux PDF
 programs that uses the underlying Poppler rendering library):
 http://live.gnome.org/Evince/Annotations
 

The next version of Kpdf for KDE named Okular will have annotations
possibilities. It will also support pdfsync (the equivalent of ReverseDVI).

It would be nice if LyX would also support pdfsync (and then maybe drop
DVI).

Charles
-- 
http://www.kde-france.org



Re: What has happend to lyx.org?

2007-03-08 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
 Gunnar == Gunnar Lindholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Gunnar Any ETA on when it will return? 

No, unfortunately.

JMarc




Re: Very Impressive

2007-03-08 Thread Abdelrazak Younes

Jan Peters wrote:

Dear Lyx-Developers,

I am *really* impressed ... or maybe even stunned.
The update from 1.4 to 1.5 is really a major
step for LyXkind. On a Mac, it feels every bit as
professional as a Mac App can be (wow).
The SWP guys at MacKitchan must be really scared
as hell. Congrats guys! You are doing a hell of a job,
I hardly can believe the progress.


Thanks for the nice word Jan :-)



As usual though, I would like to remind you on the few
issues which I would wish for in order to leave my beloved
SWP behind ... and with it the last reason to emulate a
Windows PC:
- more and better math toolbars


This is planned for later. We need a feature from Qt4.2 in order to 
completely eradicate the math panel and put everything in the math toolbar.


One question though: would you be happy with a (small) dock widget 
instead of the big math panel? This would be easy to put in.



Or is there an easy
way to create them ourselves?


More or less yes, look at lyx dir/lib/ui/stdtoolbar.inc

I can't comment about the rest.

Abdel.



Re: Very Impressive

2007-03-08 Thread Helge Hafting

Interesting suggestions.  Note that there is a feature freeze
right now (in order to release lyx 1.5) so development of
anything new will have to wait for the release.
Please come back with suggestions, or file wihlist items at
bugzilla.lyx.org

Jan Peters wrote:
[...]


- a compute and plot toolbar.

There is no plot (other than the option of
including graphichs produced by other means),
but computations are definitely possible - even in lyx 1.4
Did you try the menu
edit-math-use Computer Algebra System ?

This menu is available when the cursor is inside a formula.
It will pass the formula to the math app of your choice
(octave/maxima/mathematica/maple) and re-import whatever
result that app gets.

Here is a calculus example:
Enter d/dx x^3 in LyX
edit-math-computer algebra-maxima
The formula changes to  d/dx x^3 = 3x^2

You will probably run into some limitations, the above
example works with \frac, it does not work if you
use the slash-key to enter the fraction.

Helge Hafting



Re[2]: Another pdf question

2007-03-08 Thread Alan G Isaac
On Thu, 08 Mar 2007, Charles de Miramon apparently wrote: 
 then maybe drop DVI)

You mean as in: drop the only bullet-proof way to produce 
PostScript output?

Cheers,
Alan Isaac




Re: Cross refernces with parentheses

2007-03-08 Thread Helge Hafting

Gary wrote:

Hi again,

I want my cross refrences to apear as (1.2) instead of 1.2.
In Latex this would be a piece of cake with \newcommand.
How do I acomplish this with Lyx?
  

Uwe's answer details how to do this.

Note that \newcommand is available in lyx too.
If something isn't available in lyx menus and dialogs,
go to document-settings-latex preamble
and enter your \newcommand there.
Or use the TeX button, if you need latex code in the middle of your text.

Helge Hafting



Looking for a Fleuron

2007-03-08 Thread Bruce Pourciau
I'm trying to find the ding{?} number that will output a  
typographical symbol called a fleuron (leaf). Pakin's list of LaTeX  
symbols has some flowers, but no fleurons. Found one in a unicode  
list, but LyX 1.4.1 doesn't do unicode, right?


Thanks!

Bruce


Re: Looking for a Fleuron

2007-03-08 Thread Georg Baum
Bruce Pourciau wrote:

 I'm trying to find the ding{?} number that will output a
 typographical symbol called a fleuron (leaf). Pakin's list of LaTeX
 symbols has some flowers, but no fleurons. Found one in a unicode
 list, but LyX 1.4.1 doesn't do unicode, right?

No, but if you give the unicode number it might be possible to find a LaTeX
equivalent. Which fleuron do you need?


Georg



Re: Looking for a Fleuron

2007-03-08 Thread Bruce Pourciau


On Mar 8, 2007, at 8:58 AM, Georg Baum wrote:


Bruce Pourciau wrote:


I'm trying to find the ding{?} number that will output a
typographical symbol called a fleuron (leaf). Pakin's list of LaTeX
symbols has some flowers, but no fleurons. Found one in a unicode
list, but LyX 1.4.1 doesn't do unicode, right?


No, but if you give the unicode number it might be possible to find  
a LaTeX

equivalent. Which fleuron do you need?


Georg



Unicode number 2766

Bruce


Thanks for Character Styles

2007-03-08 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all,

I don't know if I ever thanked the developers for putting in Character Styles. 
They're wonderful! Thank you so much.

STeveT


Re: Looking for a Fleuron

2007-03-08 Thread Georg Baum
Bruce Pourciau wrote:

 Unicode number 2766

Like this?


Georg

fleuron.lyx
Description: application/lyx


Re: Looking for a Fleuron

2007-03-08 Thread Bruce Pourciau


On Mar 8, 2007, at 9:20 AM, Georg Baum wrote:


Bruce Pourciau wrote:


Unicode number 2766


Like this?


Georg
fleuron.lyx



Yes, George. Thank you! Where did you find it? Is there a  
comprehensive list of ding{} symbols you could point me to? It's odd  
that the fleuron labled ding{166} in Pakin's list does not look like  
the fleuron that you actually get with ding{166}.


Bruce


Re: Thanks for Character Styles

2007-03-08 Thread José Matos
On Thursday 08 March 2007 3:12:39 pm Steve Litt wrote:
 Hi all,

 I don't know if I ever thanked the developers for putting in Character
 Styles. They're wonderful! Thank you so much.

  You are welcome. :-)

  Martin Vermeer is the one to blame here. :-)

 STeveT

-- 
José Abílio


Re: Looking for a Fleuron

2007-03-08 Thread Georg Baum
Bruce Pourciau wrote:

 Yes, George. Thank you! Where did you find it? Is there a
 comprehensive list of ding{} symbols you could point me to? It's odd
 that the fleuron labled ding{166} in Pakin's list does not look like
 the fleuron that you actually get with ding{166}.

I looked up how the symbol looks like at
http://www.decodeunicode.org/U+2766. Then I searched in the dingbat section 
in 
http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/info/symbols/comprehensive/symbols-a4.pdf
and found the symbol at p. 56. Here I get exactly the same output as in the
symbols file.


Georg



Re: Looking for a Fleuron

2007-03-08 Thread Bruce Pourciau

Here I get exactly the same output as in the
symbols file.


Here ding{166} in Pakin is a black leaf with a small white hole and  
the leaf is surrounded by its stem which is an almost completed  
circle, while ding{166} in LyX gives a solid black leaf that hangs by  
its stem from a small horizontal branch. It's the latter I wanted,  
and that's why I didn't find it in Pakin. Weird.


Bruce

On Mar 8, 2007, at 10:01 AM, Georg Baum wrote:


Bruce Pourciau wrote:


Yes, George. Thank you! Where did you find it? Is there a
comprehensive list of ding{} symbols you could point me to? It's odd
that the fleuron labled ding{166} in Pakin's list does not look like
the fleuron that you actually get with ding{166}.


I looked up how the symbol looks like at
http://www.decodeunicode.org/U+2766. Then I searched in the dingbat  
section

in
http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/info/symbols/comprehensive/symbols- 
a4.pdf
and found the symbol at p. 56. Here I get exactly the same output  
as in the

symbols file.


Georg





1.5.0 for mac

2007-03-08 Thread Bob Lounsbury
Hello,

Are there any plans to create a 1.5.0beta version for mac ppc? I installed
the windows version and I love it!! So I would love to have a 1.5.0beta
version running on my iBook.

I was going to check the website and wiki but couldn't access them. Seems
the server is down.

Cheers,
Bob Lounsbury




CV templates

2007-03-08 Thread Mingfeng Yang

It seems wiki.lyx.org is down right now. I am trying to download some
templates from there to compose my Curriculum Vitae. Can somebody send
me a CV template, if you happen to have some on your computer? 

Thanks a lot!

Mingfeng



Re: 1.5.0 for mac

2007-03-08 Thread Richard Heck
Bob Lounsbury wrote:
 Hello,

 Are there any plans to create a 1.5.0beta version for mac ppc? I installed
 the windows version and I love it!! So I would love to have a 1.5.0beta
 version running on my iBook.

 I was going to check the website and wiki but couldn't access them. Seems
 the server is down.
   
Yes, I'm afraid the server has been down for a while. No news on when it
might be back up.

Richard



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Re: 1.5.0 for mac

2007-03-08 Thread Maria Gouskova

Before the server died, I tried to download 1.5.0beta for Intel Mac
and it didn't work for me. I don't recall all the details, but I think
it was a .zip file, which the Mac couldn't unpack (it complained of an
unexpected error or something along those lines). I can't replicate
the problem right now because the server is down and I deleted the
original downloaded file.

Speaking of servers, how hard would it be to set up a mirror, at least for ftp?

Maria

On 3/8/07, Richard Heck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Bob Lounsbury wrote:
 Hello,

 Are there any plans to create a 1.5.0beta version for mac ppc? I installed
 the windows version and I love it!! So I would love to have a 1.5.0beta
 version running on my iBook.

 I was going to check the website and wiki but couldn't access them. Seems
 the server is down.

Yes, I'm afraid the server has been down for a while. No news on when it
might be back up.

Richard



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Server Mirror (was: LyX-1.5.0 for Mac)

2007-03-08 Thread Richard Heck
Maria Gouskova wrote:
 Speaking of servers, how hard would it be to set up a mirror, at least
 for ftp?
I'd be happy to post some things on my server for a while. I don't have
ftp set up there and can't because I'm behind the university firewall
and don't have the ftp ports open, but I could certainly put things in a
directory accessible by http.

Richard

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Re: Another pdf question

2007-03-08 Thread Michael Wojcik

Paul A. Rubin wrote:

Richard Heck wrote:

Oisin Feeley wrote:

Comments in PDF seem to be something that's only available using the
official Adobe toolchain [snip].


On a related thread, Mircea Trandafir pointed out AREnable 
(http://sourceforge.net/projects/arenable/), which apparently transfers 
permissions (signed by Acrobat) from one PDF file to another.  I just 
tested it, and it was able to enable commenting in a way that Acrobat 
Reader recognized.


And that tells us all we need to know about Adobe's understanding of 
digital signatures.


Yet another reason to avoid purchasing Adobe products.

--
Michael Wojcik




Re: degree symbol in lyx on ubuntu with the Compose key

2007-03-08 Thread Michael Wojcik

John Pye wrote:

Setting key to 4128,
KeySym is Shift_L
isOK is 1
isMod is 1
isModifier true
sending IMStart with 0 chars to 0x86031c8
sending IMEnd with 1 chars to 0x86031c8, text=
Setting key to 0, ?
KeySym is ?
isOK is 1
isMod is 0
encoding is iso8859-1
Using codec ISO 8859-1
Oof. Can't encode the text !
ISOEncoded returning value 0


At this point, a LyX developer will have to weigh in, I'm afraid.  I've 
been meaning to grab the LyX sources and familiarize myself with the 
code, but haven't had time yet.  (My rather limited time for mucking 
about with other people's sources is currently taken up with writing 
Wireshark dissectors...)


The Can't encode the text by itself makes me suspicious that the ISO 
8859-1 codec isn't recognizing the degree symbol.  But the degree symbol 
is in ISO 8859-1 - it's code point 176.[1]


So my suspicions are on the lines Setting key to 0, ? and KeySym is 
?, which might mean that the input decoding process failed to recognize 
the composed character.


But at this point I think someone will actually have to look at the code 
to help you, I'm afraid.


Someone mentioned a similar problem in 2004, apparently unresolved.[2]


[1] http://htmlhelp.com/reference/charset/iso160-191.gif
[2] http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=lyx-usersm=108853821905898w=2


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Re: annoying behaviour in 1.4

2007-03-08 Thread peter ljunglöf


7 mar 2007 kl. 19.14 skrev Paul A. Rubin:


Peter Ljunglöf wrote:
* The most important thing is the function 'word-forward' (bound  
to C-right). Previously it moved the cursor to the end of the  
current word (or the next if it already was at the end). That's  
the standard behaviour in most word processors and text editors.  
Now the cursor is moved to the beginning of the next word.


I just checked a few programs.  C-right moves the cursor to the  
_start_ of the next word in: MS Office; WordPerfect; NoteTab; MS  
Notepad; and MS Wordpad.  This is on Win XP; maybe things work  
differently on a Mac?


Hmm, interesting - it looks like there's a difference between Mac and  
Win. On my Mac (OSX 10.4), the behaviour is the following:


Moved to the _start_ of the _next_ word:
* Word 2004 for Mac
* OpenOffice and NeoOffice

Moved to the _end_ of the _current_ word:
* TextEdit
* Mac Mail
* GNUMail
* TeXShop
* BibDesk
* Emacs (both CarbonEmacs and AquamacsEmacs)
* Script Editor
* Mozilla Seamonkey HTML Composer

Anyway, I'm okay with moving the cursor to the start of the next  
word, _except_ in the following cases:


* When there's a punctuation character inbetween - then it should  
stop before the dot, comma, semicolon, dash or whatever.

* When there's inline math - then it should stop before the math.

This is in fact what MS Word does, and that's why Word is not  
annoying (in the cursor moving sense, that is:)


So, that is my humble wish - to get decent cursor movement back into  
LyX...


regards, Peter

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  peter ljunglöf, göteborgs universitet





Re: annoying behaviour in 1.4

2007-03-08 Thread peter ljunglöf


7 mar 2007 kl. 22.40 skrev Jean-Marc Lasgouttes:


Gunnar == Gunnar  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:



moved to the beginning of the next word. Apart from being just odd,
there's a real problem with that: If I have the text firstword
[MATH] secondword, and the cursor is at firstword, then I can
not move (quickly) to the beginning of the [MATH] stuff, since
C-right just moves past the math to the beginning of secondword.

Was this change intentional, or just a mistake?


Gunnar I think I reported it as a bug, but it was nothing that could
Gunnar be done, if I remember correctly. But I agree that it would be
Gunnar good if it didn't behave that way.

Well, the intention is that a word is a word. If you want Ctrl+Right
to go to math insets too, would you like it to consider math insets
for spell checking too. I guess the answer is no :)

So what would be the precise definition of a word for jumping? We do
not want all insets, do we? And we have to settle on a definition that
pleases _everybody_.


There are two alternatives:

* The Windows way: move to the start of the next word OR punctuation  
mark (or inline math), whichever comes first.

* The MacOS way: move to the end of the current word.

I'm okay with either, but not with the current implementation.

regards, Peter

  ___ _  __ __ _  _   _

  peter ljunglöf, göteborgs universitet





What has happend to lyx.org?

2007-03-08 Thread Gunnar Lindholm
Any ETA on when it will return?

Best wishes
Gunnar


Re: degree symbol in lyx on ubuntu with the Compose key

2007-03-08 Thread John Pye
Hi Michael,

I'm still trying to work out what's stopping my degree symbol from
showing up..

Michael Wojcik wrote:
 You could probably suppress that by filtering the LyX output through
 something to strip out the control characters.  For example:

 lyx -dbg key 21 | tr -dc '[:print:]\n'

 That should remove all characters that aren't printable, except newline.
That worked very nicely! You are wasted on the Windows world! The output
is at the bottom (ctrl-N r-alt ' e r-alt ^ 0). Lyx says Oof. Can't
encode the text ! -- which sounds like an error message, maybe?

Cheers
JP


Init key to 65535, Greek_psi
isOK is 1
isOK is 1
Init key to 65535, Greek_omega
isOK is 1
isOK is 1
Init key to 65535, Greek_switch
isOK is 1
isOK is 1
Warning: this system's locale uses Unicode.
Language code:en_US
Setting new encoding for Qt:iso8859-1
Setting key to 4129,
KeySym is Control_L
isOK is 1
isMod is 1
isModifier true
Setting key to 78,
KeySym is
isOK is 1
isMod is 0
encoding is
Using codec ISO 8859-1
ISOEncoded returning value 14
void LyXFunc::processKeySym(boost::shared_ptrLyXKeySym,
key_modifier::state) action first set to [3]
void LyXFunc::processKeySym(boost::shared_ptrLyXKeySym,
key_modifier::state)action now set to [3]
void LyXFunc::processKeySym(boost::shared_ptrLyXKeySym,
key_modifier::state) Key [action=3][Ctrl+N]
sending IMStart with 0 chars to 0x86031c8
sending IMEnd with 1 chars to 0x86031c8, text=
Setting key to 0,
KeySym is
isOK is 1
isMod is 0
encoding is iso8859-1
Using codec ISO 8859-1
ISOEncoded returning value 233
void LyXFunc::processKeySym(boost::shared_ptrLyXKeySym,
key_modifier::state) action first set to [-1]
void LyXFunc::processKeySym(boost::shared_ptrLyXKeySym,
key_modifier::state)action now set to [-1]
void LyXFunc::processKeySym(boost::shared_ptrLyXKeySym,
key_modifier::state) Key [action=-1][]
isText for key 0 isPrint is 1
isText() is true, inserting.
Cannot decode:
SelfInsert arg[`']
Setting key to 4128,
KeySym is Shift_L
isOK is 1
isMod is 1
isModifier true
sending IMStart with 0 chars to 0x86031c8
sending IMEnd with 1 chars to 0x86031c8, text=
Setting key to 0, ?
KeySym is ?
isOK is 1
isMod is 0
encoding is iso8859-1
Using codec ISO 8859-1
Oof. Can't encode the text !
ISOEncoded returning value 0
void LyXFunc::processKeySym(boost::shared_ptrLyXKeySym,
key_modifier::state) action first set to [-1]
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key_modifier::state)action now set to [-1]
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Re: Another pdf question

2007-03-08 Thread Charles de Miramon
Oisin Feeley wrote:


 But, it looks like there's a Google Summer of Code project proposal to
 provide annotations to PDF in Evince (one of the popular GNU/Linux PDF
 programs that uses the underlying Poppler rendering library):
 http://live.gnome.org/Evince/Annotations
 

The next version of Kpdf for KDE named Okular will have annotations
possibilities. It will also support pdfsync (the equivalent of ReverseDVI).

It would be nice if LyX would also support pdfsync (and then maybe drop
DVI).

Charles
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Re: What has happend to lyx.org?

2007-03-08 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
 Gunnar == Gunnar Lindholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Gunnar Any ETA on when it will return? 

No, unfortunately.

JMarc




Re: Very Impressive

2007-03-08 Thread Abdelrazak Younes

Jan Peters wrote:

Dear Lyx-Developers,

I am *really* impressed ... or maybe even stunned.
The update from 1.4 to 1.5 is really a major
step for LyXkind. On a Mac, it feels every bit as
professional as a Mac App can be (wow).
The SWP guys at MacKitchan must be really scared
as hell. Congrats guys! You are doing a hell of a job,
I hardly can believe the progress.


Thanks for the nice word Jan :-)



As usual though, I would like to remind you on the few
issues which I would wish for in order to leave my beloved
SWP behind ... and with it the last reason to emulate a
Windows PC:
- more and better math toolbars


This is planned for later. We need a feature from Qt4.2 in order to 
completely eradicate the math panel and put everything in the math toolbar.


One question though: would you be happy with a (small) dock widget 
instead of the big math panel? This would be easy to put in.



Or is there an easy
way to create them ourselves?


More or less yes, look at lyx dir/lib/ui/stdtoolbar.inc

I can't comment about the rest.

Abdel.



Re: Very Impressive

2007-03-08 Thread Helge Hafting

Interesting suggestions.  Note that there is a feature freeze
right now (in order to release lyx 1.5) so development of
anything new will have to wait for the release.
Please come back with suggestions, or file wihlist items at
bugzilla.lyx.org

Jan Peters wrote:
[...]


- a compute and plot toolbar.

There is no plot (other than the option of
including graphichs produced by other means),
but computations are definitely possible - even in lyx 1.4
Did you try the menu
edit-math-use Computer Algebra System ?

This menu is available when the cursor is inside a formula.
It will pass the formula to the math app of your choice
(octave/maxima/mathematica/maple) and re-import whatever
result that app gets.

Here is a calculus example:
Enter d/dx x^3 in LyX
edit-math-computer algebra-maxima
The formula changes to  d/dx x^3 = 3x^2

You will probably run into some limitations, the above
example works with \frac, it does not work if you
use the slash-key to enter the fraction.

Helge Hafting



Re[2]: Another pdf question

2007-03-08 Thread Alan G Isaac
On Thu, 08 Mar 2007, Charles de Miramon apparently wrote: 
 then maybe drop DVI)

You mean as in: drop the only bullet-proof way to produce 
PostScript output?

Cheers,
Alan Isaac




Re: Cross refernces with parentheses

2007-03-08 Thread Helge Hafting

Gary wrote:

Hi again,

I want my cross refrences to apear as (1.2) instead of 1.2.
In Latex this would be a piece of cake with \newcommand.
How do I acomplish this with Lyx?
  

Uwe's answer details how to do this.

Note that \newcommand is available in lyx too.
If something isn't available in lyx menus and dialogs,
go to document-settings-latex preamble
and enter your \newcommand there.
Or use the TeX button, if you need latex code in the middle of your text.

Helge Hafting



Looking for a Fleuron

2007-03-08 Thread Bruce Pourciau
I'm trying to find the ding{?} number that will output a  
typographical symbol called a fleuron (leaf). Pakin's list of LaTeX  
symbols has some flowers, but no fleurons. Found one in a unicode  
list, but LyX 1.4.1 doesn't do unicode, right?


Thanks!

Bruce


Re: Looking for a Fleuron

2007-03-08 Thread Georg Baum
Bruce Pourciau wrote:

 I'm trying to find the ding{?} number that will output a
 typographical symbol called a fleuron (leaf). Pakin's list of LaTeX
 symbols has some flowers, but no fleurons. Found one in a unicode
 list, but LyX 1.4.1 doesn't do unicode, right?

No, but if you give the unicode number it might be possible to find a LaTeX
equivalent. Which fleuron do you need?


Georg



Re: Looking for a Fleuron

2007-03-08 Thread Bruce Pourciau


On Mar 8, 2007, at 8:58 AM, Georg Baum wrote:


Bruce Pourciau wrote:


I'm trying to find the ding{?} number that will output a
typographical symbol called a fleuron (leaf). Pakin's list of LaTeX
symbols has some flowers, but no fleurons. Found one in a unicode
list, but LyX 1.4.1 doesn't do unicode, right?


No, but if you give the unicode number it might be possible to find  
a LaTeX

equivalent. Which fleuron do you need?


Georg



Unicode number 2766

Bruce


Thanks for Character Styles

2007-03-08 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all,

I don't know if I ever thanked the developers for putting in Character Styles. 
They're wonderful! Thank you so much.

STeveT


Re: Looking for a Fleuron

2007-03-08 Thread Georg Baum
Bruce Pourciau wrote:

 Unicode number 2766

Like this?


Georg

fleuron.lyx
Description: application/lyx


Re: Looking for a Fleuron

2007-03-08 Thread Bruce Pourciau


On Mar 8, 2007, at 9:20 AM, Georg Baum wrote:


Bruce Pourciau wrote:


Unicode number 2766


Like this?


Georg
fleuron.lyx



Yes, George. Thank you! Where did you find it? Is there a  
comprehensive list of ding{} symbols you could point me to? It's odd  
that the fleuron labled ding{166} in Pakin's list does not look like  
the fleuron that you actually get with ding{166}.


Bruce


Re: Thanks for Character Styles

2007-03-08 Thread José Matos
On Thursday 08 March 2007 3:12:39 pm Steve Litt wrote:
 Hi all,

 I don't know if I ever thanked the developers for putting in Character
 Styles. They're wonderful! Thank you so much.

  You are welcome. :-)

  Martin Vermeer is the one to blame here. :-)

 STeveT

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Re: Looking for a Fleuron

2007-03-08 Thread Georg Baum
Bruce Pourciau wrote:

 Yes, George. Thank you! Where did you find it? Is there a
 comprehensive list of ding{} symbols you could point me to? It's odd
 that the fleuron labled ding{166} in Pakin's list does not look like
 the fleuron that you actually get with ding{166}.

I looked up how the symbol looks like at
http://www.decodeunicode.org/U+2766. Then I searched in the dingbat section 
in 
http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/info/symbols/comprehensive/symbols-a4.pdf
and found the symbol at p. 56. Here I get exactly the same output as in the
symbols file.


Georg



Re: Looking for a Fleuron

2007-03-08 Thread Bruce Pourciau

Here I get exactly the same output as in the
symbols file.


Here ding{166} in Pakin is a black leaf with a small white hole and  
the leaf is surrounded by its stem which is an almost completed  
circle, while ding{166} in LyX gives a solid black leaf that hangs by  
its stem from a small horizontal branch. It's the latter I wanted,  
and that's why I didn't find it in Pakin. Weird.


Bruce

On Mar 8, 2007, at 10:01 AM, Georg Baum wrote:


Bruce Pourciau wrote:


Yes, George. Thank you! Where did you find it? Is there a
comprehensive list of ding{} symbols you could point me to? It's odd
that the fleuron labled ding{166} in Pakin's list does not look like
the fleuron that you actually get with ding{166}.


I looked up how the symbol looks like at
http://www.decodeunicode.org/U+2766. Then I searched in the dingbat  
section

in
http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/info/symbols/comprehensive/symbols- 
a4.pdf
and found the symbol at p. 56. Here I get exactly the same output  
as in the

symbols file.


Georg





1.5.0 for mac

2007-03-08 Thread Bob Lounsbury
Hello,

Are there any plans to create a 1.5.0beta version for mac ppc? I installed
the windows version and I love it!! So I would love to have a 1.5.0beta
version running on my iBook.

I was going to check the website and wiki but couldn't access them. Seems
the server is down.

Cheers,
Bob Lounsbury




CV templates

2007-03-08 Thread Mingfeng Yang

It seems wiki.lyx.org is down right now. I am trying to download some
templates from there to compose my Curriculum Vitae. Can somebody send
me a CV template, if you happen to have some on your computer? 

Thanks a lot!

Mingfeng



Re: 1.5.0 for mac

2007-03-08 Thread Richard Heck
Bob Lounsbury wrote:
 Hello,

 Are there any plans to create a 1.5.0beta version for mac ppc? I installed
 the windows version and I love it!! So I would love to have a 1.5.0beta
 version running on my iBook.

 I was going to check the website and wiki but couldn't access them. Seems
 the server is down.
   
Yes, I'm afraid the server has been down for a while. No news on when it
might be back up.

Richard



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Re: 1.5.0 for mac

2007-03-08 Thread Maria Gouskova

Before the server died, I tried to download 1.5.0beta for Intel Mac
and it didn't work for me. I don't recall all the details, but I think
it was a .zip file, which the Mac couldn't unpack (it complained of an
unexpected error or something along those lines). I can't replicate
the problem right now because the server is down and I deleted the
original downloaded file.

Speaking of servers, how hard would it be to set up a mirror, at least for ftp?

Maria

On 3/8/07, Richard Heck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Bob Lounsbury wrote:
 Hello,

 Are there any plans to create a 1.5.0beta version for mac ppc? I installed
 the windows version and I love it!! So I would love to have a 1.5.0beta
 version running on my iBook.

 I was going to check the website and wiki but couldn't access them. Seems
 the server is down.

Yes, I'm afraid the server has been down for a while. No news on when it
might be back up.

Richard



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Server Mirror (was: LyX-1.5.0 for Mac)

2007-03-08 Thread Richard Heck
Maria Gouskova wrote:
 Speaking of servers, how hard would it be to set up a mirror, at least
 for ftp?
I'd be happy to post some things on my server for a while. I don't have
ftp set up there and can't because I'm behind the university firewall
and don't have the ftp ports open, but I could certainly put things in a
directory accessible by http.

Richard

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Re: Another pdf question

2007-03-08 Thread Michael Wojcik

Paul A. Rubin wrote:

Richard Heck wrote:

Oisin Feeley wrote:

Comments in PDF seem to be something that's only available using the
official Adobe toolchain [snip].


On a related thread, Mircea Trandafir pointed out AREnable 
(http://sourceforge.net/projects/arenable/), which apparently transfers 
permissions (signed by Acrobat) from one PDF file to another.  I just 
tested it, and it was able to enable commenting in a way that Acrobat 
Reader recognized.


And that tells us all we need to know about Adobe's understanding of 
digital signatures.


Yet another reason to avoid purchasing Adobe products.

--
Michael Wojcik




Re: degree symbol in lyx on ubuntu with the Compose key

2007-03-08 Thread Michael Wojcik

John Pye wrote:

Setting key to 4128,
KeySym is Shift_L
isOK is 1
isMod is 1
isModifier true
sending IMStart with 0 chars to 0x86031c8
sending IMEnd with 1 chars to 0x86031c8, text=
Setting key to 0, ?
KeySym is ?
isOK is 1
isMod is 0
encoding is iso8859-1
Using codec ISO 8859-1
Oof. Can't encode the text !
ISOEncoded returning value 0


At this point, a LyX developer will have to weigh in, I'm afraid.  I've 
been meaning to grab the LyX sources and familiarize myself with the 
code, but haven't had time yet.  (My rather limited time for mucking 
about with other people's sources is currently taken up with writing 
Wireshark dissectors...)


The Can't encode the text by itself makes me suspicious that the ISO 
8859-1 codec isn't recognizing the degree symbol.  But the degree symbol 
is in ISO 8859-1 - it's code point 176.[1]


So my suspicions are on the lines Setting key to 0, ? and KeySym is 
?, which might mean that the input decoding process failed to recognize 
the composed character.


But at this point I think someone will actually have to look at the code 
to help you, I'm afraid.


Someone mentioned a similar problem in 2004, apparently unresolved.[2]


[1] http://htmlhelp.com/reference/charset/iso160-191.gif
[2] http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=lyx-usersm=108853821905898w=2


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Re: annoying behaviour in 1.4

2007-03-08 Thread peter ljunglöf


7 mar 2007 kl. 19.14 skrev Paul A. Rubin:


Peter Ljunglöf wrote:
* The most important thing is the function 'word-forward' (bound  
to C-right). Previously it moved the cursor to the end of the  
current word (or the next if it already was at the end). That's  
the standard behaviour in most word processors and text editors.  
Now the cursor is moved to the beginning of the next word.


I just checked a few programs.  C-right moves the cursor to the  
_start_ of the next word in: MS Office; WordPerfect; NoteTab; MS  
Notepad; and MS Wordpad.  This is on Win XP; maybe things work  
differently on a Mac?


Hmm, interesting - it looks like there's a difference between Mac and  
Win. On my Mac (OSX 10.4), the behaviour is the following:


Moved to the _start_ of the _next_ word:
* Word 2004 for Mac
* OpenOffice and NeoOffice

Moved to the _end_ of the _current_ word:
* TextEdit
* Mac Mail
* GNUMail
* TeXShop
* BibDesk
* Emacs (both CarbonEmacs and AquamacsEmacs)
* Script Editor
* Mozilla Seamonkey HTML Composer

Anyway, I'm okay with moving the cursor to the start of the next  
word, _except_ in the following cases:


* When there's a punctuation character inbetween - then it should  
stop before the dot, comma, semicolon, dash or whatever.

* When there's inline math - then it should stop before the math.

This is in fact what MS Word does, and that's why Word is not  
annoying (in the cursor moving sense, that is:)


So, that is my humble wish - to get decent cursor movement back into  
LyX...


regards, Peter

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Re: annoying behaviour in 1.4

2007-03-08 Thread peter ljunglöf


7 mar 2007 kl. 22.40 skrev Jean-Marc Lasgouttes:


"Gunnar" == Gunnar  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:



moved to the beginning of the next word. Apart from being just odd,
there's a real problem with that: If I have the text "firstword
[MATH] secondword", and the cursor is at "firstword", then I can
not move (quickly) to the beginning of the [MATH] stuff, since
C-right just moves past the math to the beginning of "secondword".

Was this change intentional, or just a mistake?


Gunnar> I think I reported it as a bug, but it was nothing that could
Gunnar> be done, if I remember correctly. But I agree that it would be
Gunnar> good if it didn't behave that way.

Well, the intention is that a word is a word. If you want Ctrl+Right
to go to math insets too, would you like it to consider math insets
for spell checking too. I guess the answer is no :)

So what would be the precise definition of a word for jumping? We do
not want all insets, do we? And we have to settle on a definition that
pleases _everybody_.


There are two alternatives:

* The Windows way: move to the start of the next word OR punctuation  
mark (or inline math), whichever comes first.

* The MacOS way: move to the end of the current word.

I'm okay with either, but not with the current implementation.

regards, Peter

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  peter ljunglöf, göteborgs universitet





What has happend to lyx.org?

2007-03-08 Thread Gunnar Lindholm
Any ETA on when it will return?

Best wishes
Gunnar


Re: degree symbol in lyx on ubuntu with the Compose key

2007-03-08 Thread John Pye
Hi Michael,

I'm still trying to work out what's stopping my degree symbol from
showing up..

Michael Wojcik wrote:
> You could probably suppress that by filtering the LyX output through
> something to strip out the control characters.  For example:
>
> lyx -dbg key 2>&1 | tr -dc '[:print:]\n'
>
> That should remove all characters that aren't printable, except newline.
That worked very nicely! You are wasted on the Windows world! The output
is at the bottom (ctrl-N r-alt ' e r-alt ^ 0). Lyx says "Oof. Can't
encode the text !" -- which sounds like an error message, maybe?

Cheers
JP


Init key to 65535, Greek_psi
isOK is 1
isOK is 1
Init key to 65535, Greek_omega
isOK is 1
isOK is 1
Init key to 65535, Greek_switch
isOK is 1
isOK is 1
Warning: this system's locale uses Unicode.
Language code:en_US
Setting new encoding for Qt:iso8859-1
Setting key to 4129,
KeySym is Control_L
isOK is 1
isMod is 1
isModifier true
Setting key to 78,
KeySym is
isOK is 1
isMod is 0
encoding is
Using codec ISO 8859-1
ISOEncoded returning value 14
void LyXFunc::processKeySym(boost::shared_ptr,
key_modifier::state) action first set to [3]
void LyXFunc::processKeySym(boost::shared_ptr,
key_modifier::state)action now set to [3]
void LyXFunc::processKeySym(boost::shared_ptr,
key_modifier::state) Key [action=3][Ctrl+N]
sending IMStart with 0 chars to 0x86031c8
sending IMEnd with 1 chars to 0x86031c8, text=
Setting key to 0,
KeySym is
isOK is 1
isMod is 0
encoding is iso8859-1
Using codec ISO 8859-1
ISOEncoded returning value 233
void LyXFunc::processKeySym(boost::shared_ptr,
key_modifier::state) action first set to [-1]
void LyXFunc::processKeySym(boost::shared_ptr,
key_modifier::state)action now set to [-1]
void LyXFunc::processKeySym(boost::shared_ptr,
key_modifier::state) Key [action=-1][]
isText for key 0 isPrint is 1
isText() is true, inserting.
Cannot decode:
SelfInsert arg[`']
Setting key to 4128,
KeySym is Shift_L
isOK is 1
isMod is 1
isModifier true
sending IMStart with 0 chars to 0x86031c8
sending IMEnd with 1 chars to 0x86031c8, text=
Setting key to 0, ?
KeySym is ?
isOK is 1
isMod is 0
encoding is iso8859-1
Using codec ISO 8859-1
Oof. Can't encode the text !
ISOEncoded returning value 0
void LyXFunc::processKeySym(boost::shared_ptr,
key_modifier::state) action first set to [-1]
void LyXFunc::processKeySym(boost::shared_ptr,
key_modifier::state)action now set to [-1]
void LyXFunc::processKeySym(boost::shared_ptr,
key_modifier::state) Key [action=-1][]
isText for key 0 isPrint is 1
isText() is true, inserting.
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Re: Another pdf question

2007-03-08 Thread Charles de Miramon
Oisin Feeley wrote:


> But, it looks like there's a Google Summer of Code project proposal to
> provide annotations to PDF in Evince (one of the popular GNU/Linux PDF
> programs that uses the underlying Poppler rendering library):
> http://live.gnome.org/Evince/Annotations
> 

The next version of Kpdf for KDE named Okular will have annotations
possibilities. It will also support pdfsync (the equivalent of ReverseDVI).

It would be nice if LyX would also support pdfsync (and then maybe drop
DVI).

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Re: What has happend to lyx.org?

2007-03-08 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Gunnar" == Gunnar Lindholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Gunnar> Any ETA on when it will return? 

No, unfortunately.

JMarc




Re: Very Impressive

2007-03-08 Thread Abdelrazak Younes

Jan Peters wrote:

Dear Lyx-Developers,

I am *really* impressed ... or maybe even stunned.
The update from 1.4 to 1.5 is really a major
step for LyXkind. On a Mac, it feels every bit as
professional as a Mac App can be (wow).
The SWP guys at MacKitchan must be really scared
as hell. Congrats guys! You are doing a hell of a job,
I hardly can believe the progress.


Thanks for the nice word Jan :-)



As usual though, I would like to remind you on the few
issues which I would wish for in order to leave my beloved
SWP behind ... and with it the last reason to emulate a
Windows PC:
- more and better math toolbars


This is planned for later. We need a feature from Qt4.2 in order to 
completely eradicate the math panel and put everything in the math toolbar.


One question though: would you be happy with a (small) dock widget 
instead of the big math panel? This would be easy to put in.



Or is there an easy
way to create them ourselves?


More or less yes, look at /lib/ui/stdtoolbar.inc

I can't comment about the rest.

Abdel.



Re: Very Impressive

2007-03-08 Thread Helge Hafting

Interesting suggestions.  Note that there is a feature freeze
right now (in order to release lyx 1.5) so development of
anything new will have to wait for the release.
Please come back with suggestions, or file "wihlist items" at
bugzilla.lyx.org

Jan Peters wrote:
[...]


- a compute and plot toolbar.

There is no plot (other than the option of
including graphichs produced by other means),
but computations are definitely possible - even in lyx 1.4
Did you try the menu
"edit->math->use Computer Algebra System" ?

This menu is available when the cursor is inside a formula.
It will pass the formula to the math app of your choice
(octave/maxima/mathematica/maple) and re-import whatever
result that app gets.

Here is a calculus example:
Enter d/dx x^3 in LyX
edit->math->computer algebra->maxima
The formula changes to  d/dx x^3 = 3x^2

You will probably run into some limitations, the above
example works with \frac, it does not work if you
use the slash-key to enter the fraction.

Helge Hafting



Re[2]: Another pdf question

2007-03-08 Thread Alan G Isaac
On Thu, 08 Mar 2007, Charles de Miramon apparently wrote: 
> then maybe drop DVI)

You mean as in: drop the only bullet-proof way to produce 
PostScript output?

Cheers,
Alan Isaac




Re: Cross refernces with parentheses

2007-03-08 Thread Helge Hafting

Gary wrote:

Hi again,

I want my cross refrences to apear as (1.2) instead of 1.2.
In Latex this would be a piece of cake with \newcommand.
How do I acomplish this with Lyx?
  

Uwe's answer details how to do this.

Note that \newcommand is available in lyx too.
If something isn't available in lyx menus and dialogs,
go to document->settings->latex preamble
and enter your \newcommand there.
Or use the "TeX" button, if you need latex code in the middle of your text.

Helge Hafting



Looking for a Fleuron

2007-03-08 Thread Bruce Pourciau
I'm trying to find the ding{?} number that will output a  
typographical symbol called a fleuron (leaf). Pakin's list of LaTeX  
symbols has some flowers, but no fleurons. Found one in a unicode  
list, but LyX 1.4.1 doesn't do unicode, right?


Thanks!

Bruce


Re: Looking for a Fleuron

2007-03-08 Thread Georg Baum
Bruce Pourciau wrote:

> I'm trying to find the ding{?} number that will output a
> typographical symbol called a fleuron (leaf). Pakin's list of LaTeX
> symbols has some flowers, but no fleurons. Found one in a unicode
> list, but LyX 1.4.1 doesn't do unicode, right?

No, but if you give the unicode number it might be possible to find a LaTeX
equivalent. Which fleuron do you need?


Georg



Re: Looking for a Fleuron

2007-03-08 Thread Bruce Pourciau


On Mar 8, 2007, at 8:58 AM, Georg Baum wrote:


Bruce Pourciau wrote:


I'm trying to find the ding{?} number that will output a
typographical symbol called a fleuron (leaf). Pakin's list of LaTeX
symbols has some flowers, but no fleurons. Found one in a unicode
list, but LyX 1.4.1 doesn't do unicode, right?


No, but if you give the unicode number it might be possible to find  
a LaTeX

equivalent. Which fleuron do you need?


Georg



Unicode number 2766

Bruce


Thanks for Character Styles

2007-03-08 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all,

I don't know if I ever thanked the developers for putting in Character Styles. 
They're wonderful! Thank you so much.

STeveT


Re: Looking for a Fleuron

2007-03-08 Thread Georg Baum
Bruce Pourciau wrote:

> Unicode number 2766

Like this?


Georg

fleuron.lyx
Description: application/lyx


Re: Looking for a Fleuron

2007-03-08 Thread Bruce Pourciau


On Mar 8, 2007, at 9:20 AM, Georg Baum wrote:


Bruce Pourciau wrote:


Unicode number 2766


Like this?


Georg




Yes, George. Thank you! Where did you find it? Is there a  
comprehensive list of ding{} symbols you could point me to? It's odd  
that the fleuron labled ding{166} in Pakin's list does not look like  
the fleuron that you actually get with ding{166}.


Bruce


Re: Thanks for Character Styles

2007-03-08 Thread José Matos
On Thursday 08 March 2007 3:12:39 pm Steve Litt wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I don't know if I ever thanked the developers for putting in Character
> Styles. They're wonderful! Thank you so much.

  You are welcome. :-)

  Martin Vermeer is the one to blame here. :-)

> STeveT

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Re: Looking for a Fleuron

2007-03-08 Thread Georg Baum
Bruce Pourciau wrote:

> Yes, George. Thank you! Where did you find it? Is there a
> comprehensive list of ding{} symbols you could point me to? It's odd
> that the fleuron labled ding{166} in Pakin's list does not look like
> the fleuron that you actually get with ding{166}.

I looked up how the symbol looks like at
http://www.decodeunicode.org/U+2766. Then I searched in the dingbat section 
in 
http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/info/symbols/comprehensive/symbols-a4.pdf
and found the symbol at p. 56. Here I get exactly the same output as in the
symbols file.


Georg



Re: Looking for a Fleuron

2007-03-08 Thread Bruce Pourciau

Here I get exactly the same output as in the
symbols file.


Here ding{166} in Pakin is a black leaf with a small white hole and  
the leaf is surrounded by its stem which is an almost completed  
circle, while ding{166} in LyX gives a solid black leaf that hangs by  
its stem from a small horizontal branch. It's the latter I wanted,  
and that's why I didn't find it in Pakin. Weird.


Bruce

On Mar 8, 2007, at 10:01 AM, Georg Baum wrote:


Bruce Pourciau wrote:


Yes, George. Thank you! Where did you find it? Is there a
comprehensive list of ding{} symbols you could point me to? It's odd
that the fleuron labled ding{166} in Pakin's list does not look like
the fleuron that you actually get with ding{166}.


I looked up how the symbol looks like at
http://www.decodeunicode.org/U+2766. Then I searched in the dingbat  
section

in
http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/info/symbols/comprehensive/symbols- 
a4.pdf
and found the symbol at p. 56. Here I get exactly the same output  
as in the

symbols file.


Georg





1.5.0 for mac

2007-03-08 Thread Bob Lounsbury
Hello,

Are there any plans to create a 1.5.0beta version for mac ppc? I installed
the windows version and I love it!! So I would love to have a 1.5.0beta
version running on my iBook.

I was going to check the website and wiki but couldn't access them. Seems
the server is down.

Cheers,
Bob Lounsbury




CV templates

2007-03-08 Thread Mingfeng Yang

It seems wiki.lyx.org is down right now. I am trying to download some
templates from there to compose my Curriculum Vitae. Can somebody send
me a CV template, if you happen to have some on your computer? 

Thanks a lot!

Mingfeng



Re: 1.5.0 for mac

2007-03-08 Thread Richard Heck
Bob Lounsbury wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Are there any plans to create a 1.5.0beta version for mac ppc? I installed
> the windows version and I love it!! So I would love to have a 1.5.0beta
> version running on my iBook.
>
> I was going to check the website and wiki but couldn't access them. Seems
> the server is down.
>   
Yes, I'm afraid the server has been down for a while. No news on when it
might be back up.

Richard



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Re: 1.5.0 for mac

2007-03-08 Thread Maria Gouskova

Before the server died, I tried to download 1.5.0beta for Intel Mac
and it didn't work for me. I don't recall all the details, but I think
it was a .zip file, which the Mac couldn't unpack (it complained of an
unexpected error or something along those lines). I can't replicate
the problem right now because the server is down and I deleted the
original downloaded file.

Speaking of servers, how hard would it be to set up a mirror, at least for ftp?

Maria

On 3/8/07, Richard Heck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Bob Lounsbury wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Are there any plans to create a 1.5.0beta version for mac ppc? I installed
> the windows version and I love it!! So I would love to have a 1.5.0beta
> version running on my iBook.
>
> I was going to check the website and wiki but couldn't access them. Seems
> the server is down.
>
Yes, I'm afraid the server has been down for a while. No news on when it
might be back up.

Richard



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Server Mirror (was: LyX-1.5.0 for Mac)

2007-03-08 Thread Richard Heck
Maria Gouskova wrote:
> Speaking of servers, how hard would it be to set up a mirror, at least
> for ftp?
I'd be happy to post some things on my server for a while. I don't have
ftp set up there and can't because I'm behind the university firewall
and don't have the ftp ports open, but I could certainly put things in a
directory accessible by http.

Richard

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Re: Another pdf question

2007-03-08 Thread Michael Wojcik

Paul A. Rubin wrote:

Richard Heck wrote:

Oisin Feeley wrote:

Comments in PDF seem to be something that's only available using the
official Adobe toolchain [snip].


On a related thread, Mircea Trandafir pointed out AREnable 
(http://sourceforge.net/projects/arenable/), which apparently transfers 
permissions (signed by Acrobat) from one PDF file to another.  I just 
tested it, and it was able to enable commenting in a way that Acrobat 
Reader recognized.


And that tells us all we need to know about Adobe's understanding of 
digital signatures.


Yet another reason to avoid purchasing Adobe products.

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Re: degree symbol in lyx on ubuntu with the Compose key

2007-03-08 Thread Michael Wojcik

John Pye wrote:

Setting key to 4128,
KeySym is Shift_L
isOK is 1
isMod is 1
isModifier true
sending IMStart with 0 chars to 0x86031c8
sending IMEnd with 1 chars to 0x86031c8, text=
Setting key to 0, ?
KeySym is ?
isOK is 1
isMod is 0
encoding is iso8859-1
Using codec ISO 8859-1
Oof. Can't encode the text !
ISOEncoded returning value 0


At this point, a LyX developer will have to weigh in, I'm afraid.  I've 
been meaning to grab the LyX sources and familiarize myself with the 
code, but haven't had time yet.  (My rather limited time for mucking 
about with other people's sources is currently taken up with writing 
Wireshark dissectors...)


The "Can't encode the text" by itself makes me suspicious that the ISO 
8859-1 codec isn't recognizing the degree symbol.  But the degree symbol 
is in ISO 8859-1 - it's code point 176.[1]


So my suspicions are on the lines "Setting key to 0, ?" and "KeySym is 
?", which might mean that the input decoding process failed to recognize 
the composed character.


But at this point I think someone will actually have to look at the code 
to help you, I'm afraid.


Someone mentioned a similar problem in 2004, apparently unresolved.[2]


[1] http://htmlhelp.com/reference/charset/iso160-191.gif
[2] http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=lyx-users=108853821905898=2


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