Re: Getting rid of "You cannot type two spaces this way" message?
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 3:39 PM, Bruce Pourciau wrote: > > On Apr 11, 2012, at 2:46 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Bill Foote wrote: > > Is there an easy way for me to get rid of the "You cannot ... Please read > the > > tutorial" message? I know that typing two spaces that way doesn't change > the > > layout, and I'm more-or-less fine with LyX auto-deleting the space. I'm > > completely fine with TeX not changing the formatting based on "extra" > spaces. > > With all that said, I'd prefer that LyX stop nagging. I know already! > > > Start ignoring it. :) This is what I did. Besides, it's a good idea to > always show it, so as to quickly and clearly explain new users what > happens and why. LyX cannot know whether the user typing _knows_ it > already or not. > > > I'm not going to adjust my typing style, because most of the time when I > type, > > putting two spaces after a period or some other punctuation is the right > thing > > to do. > > > Likely TeX/LaTeX would disagree. > > > The author of The Elements of Typographical Style, Robert Bringhurst, has > this to say about putting two spaces after a period: > > In the nineteenth century, which was a dark and inflationary age in > typography and type design, many compositors were encouraged to stuff extra > space between sentences. Generations of twentieth century typists were then > taught to do the same, by hitting the spacebar twice after every period. > Your typing as well as your typesetting will benefit from unlearning this > quaint Victorian habit. As a general rule, no more than a single space is > required after a period, colon or any other mark of punctuation. > > > LyX is just nudging you along the path of unlearning. > > Bruce I agree with Bill Foote that the nag message is annoying, even though I do not share the habit. I do occasionally hit space to put in two spaces by hand (an old habit from using word processors and text editors). Another inconsistency: the message in response to pressing the tab character is simply "command disabled"--because the manual does not discuss alternatives to tabbing in word processors and text editors. Turning this stuff off after the first occurrence seems good enough to me. Some programs, like Firefox, give you the option of keeping the warnings or never showing them again--it's not a bad practice from a usability standpoint. In general, it is somewhat unhelpful when the response to "your program does something annoying in response to X" is "Don't do X". I'll quote Steve Jobs: "Just don't hold it that way." Maria
Re: Thesis Layout for LyX
they also look very nice for reports of some complexity, manuals, ... so
yeah thesis layouts are very highly appreciated!!
Saludos
~-o--{}--o-~
Alex Vergara Gil
MSc. Física Nuclear
Laboratorio Secundario de Calibración Dosimétrica
Centro de Protección e Higiene de las Radiaciones
Calle 18A No. 4113 e/ 41 y 47 Playa
La Habana, Cuba
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El 12/04/2012 12:39 p.m., Julio Rojas escribió:
They look nice for books?
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Julio Rojas
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On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 8:34 PM, Steve Litt > wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:38:59 +0200
PhilipPirrip mailto:p...@net.hr>> wrote:
> On 04/12/2012 07:29 AM, jdre...@berkeley.edu
wrote:
> > Hello-
> >
> > I have a thesis layout that I would like to contribute to the
> > http://wiki.lyx.org/Layouts/Layouts page. What is the best way to
> > go about this?
>
> You can either edit the page (there's a link at the top of the
page),
> or submit your template to http://www.thesis-template.com/ where
some
> other templates reside.
>
Are there conditions under which a non-academic might find a Thesis
layout handy?
Thanks
SteveT
Re: Getting rid of "You cannot type two spaces this way" message?
On Apr 11, 2012, at 2:46 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote: On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Bill Foote wrote: Is there an easy way for me to get rid of the "You cannot ... Please read the tutorial" message? I know that typing two spaces that way doesn't change the layout, and I'm more-or-less fine with LyX auto-deleting the space. I'm completely fine with TeX not changing the formatting based on "extra" spaces. With all that said, I'd prefer that LyX stop nagging. I know already! Start ignoring it. :) This is what I did. Besides, it's a good idea to always show it, so as to quickly and clearly explain new users what happens and why. LyX cannot know whether the user typing _knows_ it already or not. I'm not going to adjust my typing style, because most of the time when I type, putting two spaces after a period or some other punctuation is the right thing to do. Likely TeX/LaTeX would disagree. The author of The Elements of Typographical Style, Robert Bringhurst, has this to say about putting two spaces after a period: In the nineteenth century, which was a dark and inflationary age in typography and type design, many compositors were encouraged to stuff extra space between sentences. Generations of twentieth century typists were then taught to do the same, by hitting the spacebar twice after every period. Your typing as well as your typesetting will benefit from unlearning this quaint Victorian habit. As a general rule, no more than a single space is required after a period, colon or any other mark of punctuation. LyX is just nudging you along the path of unlearning. Bruce
Re: Thesis Layout for LyX
They look nice for books? - Julio Rojas jcredbe...@gmail.com On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 8:34 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:38:59 +0200 > PhilipPirrip wrote: > > > On 04/12/2012 07:29 AM, jdre...@berkeley.edu wrote: > > > Hello- > > > > > > I have a thesis layout that I would like to contribute to the > > > http://wiki.lyx.org/Layouts/Layouts page. What is the best way to > > > go about this? > > > > You can either edit the page (there's a link at the top of the page), > > or submit your template to http://www.thesis-template.com/ where some > > other templates reside. > > > > Are there conditions under which a non-academic might find a Thesis > layout handy? > > Thanks > > SteveT >
Re: Thesis Layout for LyX
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:38:59 +0200 PhilipPirrip wrote: > On 04/12/2012 07:29 AM, jdre...@berkeley.edu wrote: > > Hello- > > > > I have a thesis layout that I would like to contribute to the > > http://wiki.lyx.org/Layouts/Layouts page. What is the best way to > > go about this? > > You can either edit the page (there's a link at the top of the page), > or submit your template to http://www.thesis-template.com/ where some > other templates reside. > Are there conditions under which a non-academic might find a Thesis layout handy? Thanks SteveT
Re: Open second LyX window (equivalent to split window)
On 04/12/2012 09:08 AM, Rainer M Krug wrote: If you open the window via he menue File -> New Window , you don't have to. All edits in the one are also in the second. Yes, and a very nice option that is. Although I have been using LyX for a very long time, I did not notice this feature being added. I have often used a split view to cut&paste details from one part of a document to another, but this is IMO much better, in that you don't lose half of the space for the document. Thanks for pointing it out. -- David L. Johnson The lottery is a tax on those who fail to understand mathematics.
Re: Open second LyX window (equivalent to split window)
El 12/04/2012 07:08 a.m., Rainer M Krug escribió:
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On 12/04/12 16:39, Alex Vergara Gil wrote:
Dear developers
Regarding this topic I have an enhancement request: I can do open a new window
and edit the
same article in both windows at the same time but for that I must reload the
article, why does
this is not done automatically? This is not trivial for the newcomers and if it
hasn't see the
light here then I wouldn't even know if it is possible at all. At least you can
add an option
or a hint.
If you open the window via he menue File -> New Window , you don't have to.
All edits in the one
are also in the second.
Yes, one can edit in two windows the same article without any problem,
what you say is true, but when you do File -> New Window, LyX just open
an empty window when it should open the same article in the new window,
or at least give an option to do that. You must then reopen the article
in the new empty window to do what we want. This is not a bug, is an
enhacement request.
Cheers,
Rainer
Keep the good work! Best regards ~-o--{}--o-~ Alex Vergara Gil MSc. Física
Nuclear
Laboratorio Secundario de Calibración Dosimétrica Centro de Protección e
Higiene de las
Radiaciones Calle 18A No. 4113 e/ 41 y 47 Playa La Habana, Cuba A.P.6195
C.P.10600 Telf:
(537)6824892, (537)6821803 Fax: (537)2030165
El 11/04/2012 07:45 a.m., Rainer M Krug escribió: On 11/04/12 15:39, Richard
Heck wrote:
On 04/11/2012 08:01 AM, Rainer M Krug wrote:
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On 04/11/2012 07:37 AM, Rainer M Krug wrote:
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Hi
is it possible to hav ing the same document open in two windows, instead of
splitting the document in one window? I know I could open a second instance, but
the risk of editing accidentally in both is always there...
Yes. Just open a new window, and re-open the document.
That's what I am doing right now - but then I am open to edits in both and
conflicts
when saving. At the moment I set the background of one LyX instance to red to
remind
me: DO NOT EDIT!
Not a new instance. A new *window*, via File>New Window. Try it.
Oh no - I should have opened my eyes this morning..
That is exactly what I was looking for...
shame on me.
Cheers and thanks a lot,
Rainer
Richard
-- Rainer M. Krug, PhD (Conservation Ecology, SUN), MSc (Conservation Biology,
UCT), Dipl.
Phys. (Germany)
Centre of Excellence for Invasion Biology Stellenbosch University South Africa
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(Germany)
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Stellenbosch University
South Africa
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Cell: +33 - (0)6 85 62 59 98
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Re: Open second LyX window (equivalent to split window)
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On 12/04/12 16:39, Alex Vergara Gil wrote:
> Dear developers
>
> Regarding this topic I have an enhancement request: I can do open a new
> window and edit the
> same article in both windows at the same time but for that I must reload the
> article, why does
> this is not done automatically? This is not trivial for the newcomers and if
> it hasn't see the
> light here then I wouldn't even know if it is possible at all. At least you
> can add an option
> or a hint.
If you open the window via he menue File -> New Window , you don't have to. All
edits in the one
are also in the second.
Cheers,
Rainer
>
> Keep the good work! Best regards ~-o--{}--o-~ Alex Vergara Gil MSc.
> Física Nuclear
> Laboratorio Secundario de Calibración Dosimétrica Centro de Protección e
> Higiene de las
> Radiaciones Calle 18A No. 4113 e/ 41 y 47 Playa La Habana, Cuba A.P.6195
> C.P.10600 Telf:
> (537)6824892, (537)6821803 Fax: (537)2030165
>
>
> El 11/04/2012 07:45 a.m., Rainer M Krug escribió: On 11/04/12 15:39, Richard
> Heck wrote:
On 04/11/2012 08:01 AM, Rainer M Krug wrote:
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> On 11/04/12 13:56, Richard Heck wrote:
>> On 04/11/2012 07:37 AM, Rainer M Krug wrote:
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>>> Hi
>>>
>>> is it possible to hav ing the same document open in two windows,
>>> instead of
>>> splitting the document in one window? I know I could open a second
>>> instance, but
>>> the risk of editing accidentally in both is always there...
>> Yes. Just open a new window, and re-open the document.
> That's what I am doing right now - but then I am open to edits in both
> and conflicts
> when saving. At the moment I set the background of one LyX instance to
> red to remind
> me: DO NOT EDIT!
>
Not a new instance. A new *window*, via File>New Window. Try it.
> Oh no - I should have opened my eyes this morning..
>
> That is exactly what I was looking for...
>
> shame on me.
>
> Cheers and thanks a lot,
>
> Rainer
>
>
Richard
>
> -- Rainer M. Krug, PhD (Conservation Ecology, SUN), MSc (Conservation
> Biology, UCT), Dipl.
> Phys. (Germany)
>
> Centre of Excellence for Invasion Biology Stellenbosch University South Africa
>
> Tel : +33 - (0)9 53 10 27 44 Cell: +33 - (0)6 85 62 59 98 Fax :
> +33 - (0)9 58
> 10 27 44
>
> Fax (D):+49 - (0)3 21 21 25 22 44
>
> email: rai...@krugs.de
>
> Skype: RMkrug
>>
>>
- --
Rainer M. Krug, PhD (Conservation Ecology, SUN), MSc (Conservation Biology,
UCT), Dipl. Phys.
(Germany)
Centre of Excellence for Invasion Biology
Stellenbosch University
South Africa
Tel : +33 - (0)9 53 10 27 44
Cell: +33 - (0)6 85 62 59 98
Fax : +33 - (0)9 58 10 27 44
Fax (D):+49 - (0)3 21 21 25 22 44
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Re: Open second LyX window (equivalent to split window)
Dear developers
Regarding this topic I have an enhancement request: I can do open a new
window and edit the same article in both windows at the same time but
for that I must reload the article, why does this is not done
automatically? This is not trivial for the newcomers and if it hasn't
see the light here then I wouldn't even know if it is possible at all.
At least you can add an option or a hint.
Keep the good work!
Best regards
~-o--{}--o-~
Alex Vergara Gil
MSc. Física Nuclear
Laboratorio Secundario de Calibración Dosimétrica
Centro de Protección e Higiene de las Radiaciones
Calle 18A No. 4113 e/ 41 y 47 Playa
La Habana, Cuba
A.P.6195 C.P.10600
Telf: (537)6824892, (537)6821803
Fax: (537)2030165
El 11/04/2012 07:45 a.m., Rainer M Krug escribió:
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On 11/04/12 15:39, Richard Heck wrote:
On 04/11/2012 08:01 AM, Rainer M Krug wrote:
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On 11/04/12 13:56, Richard Heck wrote:
On 04/11/2012 07:37 AM, Rainer M Krug wrote:
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Hi
is it possible to hav ing the same document open in two windows, instead of
splitting
the document in one window? I know I could open a second instance, but the risk
of
editing accidentally in both is always there...
Yes. Just open a new window, and re-open the document.
That's what I am doing right now - but then I am open to edits in both and
conflicts when
saving. At the moment I set the background of one LyX instance to red to remind
me: DO NOT
EDIT!
Not a new instance. A new *window*, via File>New Window. Try it.
Oh no - I should have opened my eyes this morning..
That is exactly what I was looking for...
shame on me.
Cheers and thanks a lot,
Rainer
Richard
- --
Rainer M. Krug, PhD (Conservation Ecology, SUN), MSc (Conservation Biology, UCT), Dipl. Phys.
(Germany)
Centre of Excellence for Invasion Biology
Stellenbosch University
South Africa
Tel : +33 - (0)9 53 10 27 44
Cell: +33 - (0)6 85 62 59 98
Fax : +33 - (0)9 58 10 27 44
Fax (D):+49 - (0)3 21 21 25 22 44
email: rai...@krugs.de
Skype: RMkrug
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Re: Thesis Layout for LyX
In addition, there's another page where you could advertise your layout: http://wiki.lyx.org/Examples/Thesis
Re: Thesis Layout for LyX
On 04/12/2012 07:29 AM, jdre...@berkeley.edu wrote: Hello- I have a thesis layout that I would like to contribute to the http://wiki.lyx.org/Layouts/Layouts page. What is the best way to go about this? You can either edit the page (there's a link at the top of the page), or submit your template to http://www.thesis-template.com/ where some other templates reside.
Re: Getting rid of "You cannot type two spaces this way" message?
Le 12/04/2012 12:34, Julio Rojas a écrit : I haven't even noticed this warning until now! :D The urge to put a double space at the end of sentences is not a disease shared in all cultures :) JMarc
Re: Getting rid of "You cannot type two spaces this way" message?
I haven't even noticed this warning until now! :D - Julio Rojas jcredbe...@gmail.com On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Le 11/04/2012 23:11, Jens Nöckel a écrit : > > Although I also ignore this LyX message, there is something inconsistent >> here: if two spaces generate a message, then why don't we get an analogous >> message after pressing several times? Admittedly, it's a little >> different because LyX allows a few more returns before stopping to add them >> - but the basic reasoning is the same: LaTeX won't do anything with the >> additional new lines (or white space of any kind) and the user may not be >> aware of that. >> > > Note that LyX actually does something when pressing Return in an empty > paragraph: it decreases environment depth, and goes to standard layout when > depth is 0. > > JMarc > >
Re: Getting rid of "You cannot type two spaces this way" message?
Le 11/04/2012 23:11, Jens Nöckel a écrit : Although I also ignore this LyX message, there is something inconsistent here: if two spaces generate a message, then why don't we get an analogous message after pressing several times? Admittedly, it's a little different because LyX allows a few more returns before stopping to add them - but the basic reasoning is the same: LaTeX won't do anything with the additional new lines (or white space of any kind) and the user may not be aware of that. Note that LyX actually does something when pressing Return in an empty paragraph: it decreases environment depth, and goes to standard layout when depth is 0. JMarc
