Re: Global find and replace of straight quotes with proper curly quotes?

[Richard Heck]

On 04/14/2012 07:39 PM, stefano franchi wrote:

I have a (long) manuscript imported from Framemaker via Latex where
all the quotation marks (both single and double) appear in Lyx as
straight quotes instead of the properly curly ones. The source view,
in fact, shows me countless \texquotedbl commands instead of regular
quotes.

Is there any way to do a global find and replace that would properly
substitute opening straight quotes with open single|double quotes and
viceversa for closing quotes? I could search and replace for
space+quote(s) and, respectively for quote+space. That would work in
most cases and I could fix the remaining issues by hand. I thought the
new find and replace could manage, but:

1. I cannot do a simple find and replace for [space][quote] because I
am not allowed to enter a space in the find area
2. I can search for reg expression \s thereby finding most of the
instances I'm looking for.  But I cannot enter a space in the replace
area, nor can I enter a regular expression in it (as the manual
explains, reg expressions are not allowed in the replace area yet).
3. Using regular expressions as sketched above in an external editor
breaks the lyx file, because straight quotes are needed for citation
commands (and probably in other places as well.

Any idea?

Try inserting into the Advanced Find field: [REGEX .*] , or something 
like that. The regex matches anything, or nothing, so is pointless, but 
it allows you to enter the space. You could presumably also enter a 
user-defined regex for a space: \s.


Richard

Re: Citation style 'Text after' separator

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

2012/4/13 Anne:
 I'm a bit of a lyx newb and I had the problem Sam Aaron had. So I pasted your
 TeX command (\def\@cite#1#2{[{#1\if at tempswa : #2\fi}]}) into the TeX box 
 at
 the beginning of my lyx document. But I still get the comma instead of the 
 colon
 though and I don't quite know why.

The solution really depends what bibliography style (i.e., standard,
natbib, jurabib or biblatex) you are using. You should give us some
more information about that.

BTW the above (which probably only works for standard) is mangled by
the @-mapping of the mailing list. It really should read
\def\@cite#1#2{[{#1\if@tempswa : #2\fi}]}

Jürgen

 Many thanks!
 Anne

Re: Global find and replace of straight quotes with proper curly quotes?

[stefano franchi]

On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Richard Heck rgh...@comcast.net wrote:
 On 04/14/2012 07:39 PM, stefano franchi wrote:

 I have a (long) manuscript imported from Framemaker via Latex where
 all the quotation marks (both single and double) appear in Lyx as
 straight quotes instead of the properly curly ones. The source view,
 in fact, shows me countless \texquotedbl commands instead of regular
 quotes.

 Is there any way to do a global find and replace that would properly
 substitute opening straight quotes with open single|double quotes and
 viceversa for closing quotes? I could search and replace for
 space+quote(s) and, respectively for quote+space. That would work in
 most cases and I could fix the remaining issues by hand. I thought the
 new find and replace could manage, but:

 1. I cannot do a simple find and replace for [space][quote] because I
 am not allowed to enter a space in the find area
 2. I can search for reg expression \s thereby finding most of the
 instances I'm looking for.  But I cannot enter a space in the replace
 area, nor can I enter a regular expression in it (as the manual
 explains, reg expressions are not allowed in the replace area yet).
 3. Using regular expressions as sketched above in an external editor
 breaks the lyx file, because straight quotes are needed for citation
 commands (and probably in other places as well.

 Any idea?

 Try inserting into the Advanced Find field: [REGEX .*] , or something like
 that. The regex matches anything, or nothing, so is pointless, but it allows
 you to enter the space. You could presumably also enter a user-defined regex
 for a space: \s.

Hi Richard,

sorry for not being clear. I can match a space with a regex in the
find field (I did it with /s), but how do I put the space back in? The
replace field does not allow regexes nor spaces.

Cheers,

Stefano

-- 
__
Stefano Franchi
Associate Research Professor
Department of Hispanic Studies            Ph:   +1 (979) 845-2125
Texas AM University                          Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
College Station, Texas, USA

stef...@tamu.edu
http://stefano.cleinias.org

Re: Getting rid of You cannot type two spaces this way message?

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 8:46 PM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Bill Foote bi...@jovial.com wrote:
  Is there an easy way for me to get rid of the You cannot ... Please
 read the
  tutorial message?  I know that typing two spaces that way doesn't
 change the
  layout, and I'm more-or-less fine with LyX auto-deleting the space.  I'm
  completely fine with TeX not changing the formatting based on extra
 spaces.
  With all that said, I'd prefer that LyX stop nagging.  I know already!
 
 Start ignoring it. :)


If you're an iPad or iPhone user like me it's hard to ignore such a message
because in the iOS environment hitting double space is a natural and useful
thing ... it inserts a fullstop and inter-sentence spacing so one's eye
gaze is on the screen checking that the correct thing has happened or
because one is a touch typist and that's where you look too.


 This is what I did. Besides, it's a good idea to
 always show it, so as to quickly and clearly explain new users what
 happens and why. LyX cannot know whether the user typing _knows_ it
 already or not.


Except that I for one and I guess Bill for his need to comment are not new
users of LyX. We don't need that sort of nanny state warning. Indeed if
the key sequence has no meaning in LyX then I'd argue that there is
absolutely no need for a message at all. Just have it drop the second space
quietly and move on.

Regards, Trevor.

 Re: deemed!

Re: Global find and replace of straight quotes with proper curly quotes?

[Steve Litt]

On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 18:39:15 -0500
stefano franchi stefano.fran...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a (long) manuscript imported from Framemaker via Latex where
 all the quotation marks (both single and double) appear in Lyx as
 straight quotes instead of the properly curly ones. The source view,
 in fact, shows me countless \texquotedbl commands instead of regular
 quotes.

When you say source view, do you mean viewed in a text editor?

My LyX 2.0.0 April 29, 2011 on Ubuntu 11.04 errored out when I put an
ERT symbol of \texquotedbl into a document. In my LyX, when I put in a
straight quote (Ctrl+Shift+), in Vim it's just an ascii doublequote.
In my LyX, viewed in Vim, my curly quotes look like this:

\begin_inset Quotes eld
\end_inset

phrase to be quoted
\begin_inset Quotes erd
\end_inset


 
 Is there any way to do a global find and replace that would properly
 substitute opening straight quotes with open single|double quotes and
 viceversa for closing quotes?

Personally, I think this is a job for Vim. Or maybe a short program in
awk, Perl, Python, Ruby or Lua.

I just experimented with it, and assuming you can get your LyX to treat
a straight quote as the ascii character (maybe by changing your
fontenc), then I think the following two commands, within Vim, should
do what you want:


:%s/\(\s\)\(\S\)/\1\r\\begin_inset Quotes eld\r\\end_inset\r\r\2/gc

:%s/\(\S\)\(\s\)/\1\r\\begin_inset Quotes erd\r\\end_inset\r\r\2/gc

Note that the c on the end of each of those commands causes it to ask,
on each one, whether it's OK to make the change. If you don't want to
be asked, eliminate the trailing c on each command and they'll do the
job in a matter of seconds for a 100K word book.

Obviously, you'll need to back up the original in case my commands do
more harm than good.

Anyway, if you can get your LyX to treat straightdoublequotes like
ascii characters, I'd anticipate this solution will take you a few
minutes.

As far as single quotes, I'd do those manually. If your writing is
anything like mine, the VAST majority of single quotes are apostrophes,
and as far as I know those SHOULD be straightquotes. From what I
understand, you use straight double quotes only in a quotation within a
quotation, which are rare. I'd seek out such instances, delete the
straight single quote, and type in Ctrl+' to insert the proper curly
quote. LyX knows by context whether to make it a beginning or ending
singlequote.

HTH

SteveT

Re: numbering multi-line formulas

[El Merehbi, Ibrahim]

Hello again,

I believe I didn't clear it out well. I meant a shortcut for the 
eqnarray not the equation numbering.

The default of your stated functions are:

math-number-line-toggle: Alt+M Shift+N
math-number-toggle: Alt+M N

both of which do the same thing; I already use the second one for 
numbering.

Note: LyX 2.0.3 on Ubuntu 10.04

Thanks again

On Fri 13 Apr 2012 07:24:59 PM EEST, David L. Johnson wrote:
 On 04/13/2012 08:32 AM, Merhebi, Bob wrote:
 Hello David,

 Thanks for your reply on this topic; I also benefited from this. One
 question though; isn't there a keyboard shortcut to use it instead of
 using the menus?
 You can define keyboard shortcuts to substitute for many, if not all,
 menu choices.  I only use a few such shortcuts, and not for line
 numbering since I don't do that so often.  Look under Tools 
 Preferences  Shortcuts  Mathematical symbols, for
 math-number-line-toggle and math-number-toggle and assign them as you
 prefer.

 Another question is regarding fullscreen mode; the math toolbar pops out
 when I use Ctrl(+Shift)+M  that's useful, but what about the main
 toolbar? is there a way to bring it out temporarily in fullscreen
 mode?

 I don't know.


--
Sincerely Yours,
-El Merehbi, Ibrahim (Bob)

Thunderbird Signature

Re: Global find and replace of straight quotes with proper curly quotes?

[stefano franchi]

HI Steve,

On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote:
 On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 18:39:15 -0500
 stefano franchi stefano.fran...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a (long) manuscript imported from Framemaker via Latex where
 all the quotation marks (both single and double) appear in Lyx as
 straight quotes instead of the properly curly ones. The source view,
 in fact, shows me countless \texquotedbl commands instead of regular
 quotes.

 When you say source view, do you mean viewed in a text editor?

No, I meant the LateX code you get to see with Lyx's own View Source command.
In Lyx (not Latex) source code, they are just straight ascii double quotes


 My LyX 2.0.0 April 29, 2011 on Ubuntu 11.04 errored out when I put an
 ERT symbol of \texquotedbl into a document. In my LyX, when I put in a
 straight quote (Ctrl+Shift+), in Vim it's just an ascii doublequote.
 In my LyX, viewed in Vim, my curly quotes look like this:

 \begin_inset Quotes eld
 \end_inset

 phrase to be quoted
 \begin_inset Quotes erd
 \end_inset

Same here




 Is there any way to do a global find and replace that would properly
 substitute opening straight quotes with open single|double quotes and
 viceversa for closing quotes?

 Personally, I think this is a job for Vim. Or maybe a short program in
 awk, Perl, Python, Ruby or Lua.

 I just experimented with it, and assuming you can get your LyX to treat
 a straight quote as the ascii character (maybe by changing your
 fontenc), then I think the following two commands, within Vim, should
 do what you want:

 :%s/\(\s\)\(\S\)/\1\r\\begin_inset Quotes eld\r\\end_inset\r\r\2/gc

 :%s/\(\S\)\(\s\)/\1\r\\begin_inset Quotes erd\r\\end_inset\r\r\2/gc



That's pretty much what I was trying to do in Kile (even though my
RegEx was way simpler than yours...)
Unfortunately I cannot find a way to do it automatically, because
there are instances where the straight double quotes are actually used
by Lyx. So I guess I'll have to confirm every single one. Long night
ahead (book is close to 300K words...)

Thanks for confirming my hunch and providing the regex.


Cheers,

Stefano
-- 
__
Stefano Franchi
Associate Research Professor
Department of Hispanic Studies            Ph:   +1 (979) 845-2125
Texas AM University                          Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
College Station, Texas, USA

stef...@tamu.edu
http://stefano.cleinias.org

Re: Global find and replace of straight quotes with proper curly quotes?

[Enrico Forestieri]

stefano franchi writes:
 sorry for not being clear. I can match a space with a regex in the
 find field (I did it with /s), but how do I put the space back in? The
 replace field does not allow regexes nor spaces.

Try inserting an empty ERT (Ctrl+L) and then a space.

-- 
Enrico

Re: numbering multi-line formulas

[David L. Johnson]

On 04/15/2012 06:18 PM, El Merehbi, Ibrahim wrote:

Hello again,

I believe I didn't clear it out well. I meant a shortcut for the
eqnarray not the equation numbering.

Sorry, I misunderstood.  Add to the shortcuts something like this:

command-sequence math-mode on; math-mutate eqnarray;

and link it to your favorite hot-key.  I use F12.

--

David L. Johnson

A mathematician is a machine for turning coffee into theorems.
-- Paul Erdos

Re: Global find and replace of straight quotes with proper curly quotes?

[Richard Heck]

On 04/15/2012 12:13 PM, stefano franchi wrote:

On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Richard Heckrgh...@comcast.net  wrote:

On 04/14/2012 07:39 PM, stefano franchi wrote:

I have a (long) manuscript imported from Framemaker via Latex where
all the quotation marks (both single and double) appear in Lyx as
straight quotes instead of the properly curly ones. The source view,
in fact, shows me countless \texquotedbl commands instead of regular
quotes.

Is there any way to do a global find and replace that would properly
substitute opening straight quotes with open single|double quotes and
viceversa for closing quotes? I could search and replace for
space+quote(s) and, respectively for quote+space. That would work in
most cases and I could fix the remaining issues by hand. I thought the
new find and replace could manage, but:

1. I cannot do a simple find and replace for [space][quote] because I
am not allowed to enter a space in the find area
2. I can search for reg expression \s thereby finding most of the
instances I'm looking for.  But I cannot enter a space in the replace
area, nor can I enter a regular expression in it (as the manual
explains, reg expressions are not allowed in the replace area yet).
3. Using regular expressions as sketched above in an external editor
breaks the lyx file, because straight quotes are needed for citation
commands (and probably in other places as well.

Any idea?


Try inserting into the Advanced Find field: [REGEX .*] , or something like
that. The regex matches anything, or nothing, so is pointless, but it allows
you to enter the space. You could presumably also enter a user-defined regex
for a space: \s.

Hi Richard,

sorry for not being clear. I can match a space with a regex in the
find field (I did it with /s), but how do I put the space back in? The
replace field does not allow regexes nor spaces.
If you do the first thing I suggested, with the pointless regex, will 
that work?


Richard

Re: Global find and replace of straight quotes with proper curly quotes?

[Richard Heck]

On 04/14/2012 07:39 PM, stefano franchi wrote:

I have a (long) manuscript imported from Framemaker via Latex where
all the quotation marks (both single and double) appear in Lyx as
straight quotes instead of the properly curly ones. The source view,
in fact, shows me countless \texquotedbl commands instead of regular
quotes.

Is there any way to do a global find and replace that would properly
substitute opening straight quotes with open single|double quotes and
viceversa for closing quotes? I could search and replace for
space+quote(s) and, respectively for quote+space. That would work in
most cases and I could fix the remaining issues by hand. I thought the
new find and replace could manage, but:

1. I cannot do a simple find and replace for [space][quote] because I
am not allowed to enter a space in the find area
2. I can search for reg expression \s thereby finding most of the
instances I'm looking for.  But I cannot enter a space in the replace
area, nor can I enter a regular expression in it (as the manual
explains, reg expressions are not allowed in the replace area yet).
3. Using regular expressions as sketched above in an external editor
breaks the lyx file, because straight quotes are needed for citation
commands (and probably in other places as well.

Any idea?

Try inserting into the Advanced Find field: [REGEX .*] , or something 
like that. The regex matches anything, or nothing, so is pointless, but 
it allows you to enter the space. You could presumably also enter a 
user-defined regex for a space: \s.


Richard

Re: Citation style 'Text after' separator

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

2012/4/13 Anne:
 I'm a bit of a lyx newb and I had the problem Sam Aaron had. So I pasted your
 TeX command (\def\@cite#1#2{[{#1\if at tempswa : #2\fi}]}) into the TeX box 
 at
 the beginning of my lyx document. But I still get the comma instead of the 
 colon
 though and I don't quite know why.

The solution really depends what bibliography style (i.e., standard,
natbib, jurabib or biblatex) you are using. You should give us some
more information about that.

BTW the above (which probably only works for standard) is mangled by
the @-mapping of the mailing list. It really should read
\def\@cite#1#2{[{#1\if@tempswa : #2\fi}]}

Jürgen

 Many thanks!
 Anne

Re: Global find and replace of straight quotes with proper curly quotes?

[stefano franchi]

On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Richard Heck rgh...@comcast.net wrote:
 On 04/14/2012 07:39 PM, stefano franchi wrote:

 I have a (long) manuscript imported from Framemaker via Latex where
 all the quotation marks (both single and double) appear in Lyx as
 straight quotes instead of the properly curly ones. The source view,
 in fact, shows me countless \texquotedbl commands instead of regular
 quotes.

 Is there any way to do a global find and replace that would properly
 substitute opening straight quotes with open single|double quotes and
 viceversa for closing quotes? I could search and replace for
 space+quote(s) and, respectively for quote+space. That would work in
 most cases and I could fix the remaining issues by hand. I thought the
 new find and replace could manage, but:

 1. I cannot do a simple find and replace for [space][quote] because I
 am not allowed to enter a space in the find area
 2. I can search for reg expression \s thereby finding most of the
 instances I'm looking for.  But I cannot enter a space in the replace
 area, nor can I enter a regular expression in it (as the manual
 explains, reg expressions are not allowed in the replace area yet).
 3. Using regular expressions as sketched above in an external editor
 breaks the lyx file, because straight quotes are needed for citation
 commands (and probably in other places as well.

 Any idea?

 Try inserting into the Advanced Find field: [REGEX .*] , or something like
 that. The regex matches anything, or nothing, so is pointless, but it allows
 you to enter the space. You could presumably also enter a user-defined regex
 for a space: \s.

Hi Richard,

sorry for not being clear. I can match a space with a regex in the
find field (I did it with /s), but how do I put the space back in? The
replace field does not allow regexes nor spaces.

Cheers,

Stefano

-- 
__
Stefano Franchi
Associate Research Professor
Department of Hispanic Studies            Ph:   +1 (979) 845-2125
Texas AM University                          Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
College Station, Texas, USA

stef...@tamu.edu
http://stefano.cleinias.org

Re: Getting rid of You cannot type two spaces this way message?

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 8:46 PM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Bill Foote bi...@jovial.com wrote:
  Is there an easy way for me to get rid of the You cannot ... Please
 read the
  tutorial message?  I know that typing two spaces that way doesn't
 change the
  layout, and I'm more-or-less fine with LyX auto-deleting the space.  I'm
  completely fine with TeX not changing the formatting based on extra
 spaces.
  With all that said, I'd prefer that LyX stop nagging.  I know already!
 
 Start ignoring it. :)


If you're an iPad or iPhone user like me it's hard to ignore such a message
because in the iOS environment hitting double space is a natural and useful
thing ... it inserts a fullstop and inter-sentence spacing so one's eye
gaze is on the screen checking that the correct thing has happened or
because one is a touch typist and that's where you look too.


 This is what I did. Besides, it's a good idea to
 always show it, so as to quickly and clearly explain new users what
 happens and why. LyX cannot know whether the user typing _knows_ it
 already or not.


Except that I for one and I guess Bill for his need to comment are not new
users of LyX. We don't need that sort of nanny state warning. Indeed if
the key sequence has no meaning in LyX then I'd argue that there is
absolutely no need for a message at all. Just have it drop the second space
quietly and move on.

Regards, Trevor.

 Re: deemed!

Re: Global find and replace of straight quotes with proper curly quotes?

[Steve Litt]

On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 18:39:15 -0500
stefano franchi stefano.fran...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a (long) manuscript imported from Framemaker via Latex where
 all the quotation marks (both single and double) appear in Lyx as
 straight quotes instead of the properly curly ones. The source view,
 in fact, shows me countless \texquotedbl commands instead of regular
 quotes.

When you say source view, do you mean viewed in a text editor?

My LyX 2.0.0 April 29, 2011 on Ubuntu 11.04 errored out when I put an
ERT symbol of \texquotedbl into a document. In my LyX, when I put in a
straight quote (Ctrl+Shift+), in Vim it's just an ascii doublequote.
In my LyX, viewed in Vim, my curly quotes look like this:

\begin_inset Quotes eld
\end_inset

phrase to be quoted
\begin_inset Quotes erd
\end_inset


 
 Is there any way to do a global find and replace that would properly
 substitute opening straight quotes with open single|double quotes and
 viceversa for closing quotes?

Personally, I think this is a job for Vim. Or maybe a short program in
awk, Perl, Python, Ruby or Lua.

I just experimented with it, and assuming you can get your LyX to treat
a straight quote as the ascii character (maybe by changing your
fontenc), then I think the following two commands, within Vim, should
do what you want:


:%s/\(\s\)\(\S\)/\1\r\\begin_inset Quotes eld\r\\end_inset\r\r\2/gc

:%s/\(\S\)\(\s\)/\1\r\\begin_inset Quotes erd\r\\end_inset\r\r\2/gc

Note that the c on the end of each of those commands causes it to ask,
on each one, whether it's OK to make the change. If you don't want to
be asked, eliminate the trailing c on each command and they'll do the
job in a matter of seconds for a 100K word book.

Obviously, you'll need to back up the original in case my commands do
more harm than good.

Anyway, if you can get your LyX to treat straightdoublequotes like
ascii characters, I'd anticipate this solution will take you a few
minutes.

As far as single quotes, I'd do those manually. If your writing is
anything like mine, the VAST majority of single quotes are apostrophes,
and as far as I know those SHOULD be straightquotes. From what I
understand, you use straight double quotes only in a quotation within a
quotation, which are rare. I'd seek out such instances, delete the
straight single quote, and type in Ctrl+' to insert the proper curly
quote. LyX knows by context whether to make it a beginning or ending
singlequote.

HTH

SteveT

Re: numbering multi-line formulas

[El Merehbi, Ibrahim]

Hello again,

I believe I didn't clear it out well. I meant a shortcut for the 
eqnarray not the equation numbering.

The default of your stated functions are:

math-number-line-toggle: Alt+M Shift+N
math-number-toggle: Alt+M N

both of which do the same thing; I already use the second one for 
numbering.

Note: LyX 2.0.3 on Ubuntu 10.04

Thanks again

On Fri 13 Apr 2012 07:24:59 PM EEST, David L. Johnson wrote:
 On 04/13/2012 08:32 AM, Merhebi, Bob wrote:
 Hello David,

 Thanks for your reply on this topic; I also benefited from this. One
 question though; isn't there a keyboard shortcut to use it instead of
 using the menus?
 You can define keyboard shortcuts to substitute for many, if not all,
 menu choices.  I only use a few such shortcuts, and not for line
 numbering since I don't do that so often.  Look under Tools 
 Preferences  Shortcuts  Mathematical symbols, for
 math-number-line-toggle and math-number-toggle and assign them as you
 prefer.

 Another question is regarding fullscreen mode; the math toolbar pops out
 when I use Ctrl(+Shift)+M  that's useful, but what about the main
 toolbar? is there a way to bring it out temporarily in fullscreen
 mode?

 I don't know.


--
Sincerely Yours,
-El Merehbi, Ibrahim (Bob)

Thunderbird Signature

Re: Global find and replace of straight quotes with proper curly quotes?

[stefano franchi]

HI Steve,

On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote:
 On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 18:39:15 -0500
 stefano franchi stefano.fran...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a (long) manuscript imported from Framemaker via Latex where
 all the quotation marks (both single and double) appear in Lyx as
 straight quotes instead of the properly curly ones. The source view,
 in fact, shows me countless \texquotedbl commands instead of regular
 quotes.

 When you say source view, do you mean viewed in a text editor?

No, I meant the LateX code you get to see with Lyx's own View Source command.
In Lyx (not Latex) source code, they are just straight ascii double quotes


 My LyX 2.0.0 April 29, 2011 on Ubuntu 11.04 errored out when I put an
 ERT symbol of \texquotedbl into a document. In my LyX, when I put in a
 straight quote (Ctrl+Shift+), in Vim it's just an ascii doublequote.
 In my LyX, viewed in Vim, my curly quotes look like this:

 \begin_inset Quotes eld
 \end_inset

 phrase to be quoted
 \begin_inset Quotes erd
 \end_inset

Same here




 Is there any way to do a global find and replace that would properly
 substitute opening straight quotes with open single|double quotes and
 viceversa for closing quotes?

 Personally, I think this is a job for Vim. Or maybe a short program in
 awk, Perl, Python, Ruby or Lua.

 I just experimented with it, and assuming you can get your LyX to treat
 a straight quote as the ascii character (maybe by changing your
 fontenc), then I think the following two commands, within Vim, should
 do what you want:

 :%s/\(\s\)\(\S\)/\1\r\\begin_inset Quotes eld\r\\end_inset\r\r\2/gc

 :%s/\(\S\)\(\s\)/\1\r\\begin_inset Quotes erd\r\\end_inset\r\r\2/gc



That's pretty much what I was trying to do in Kile (even though my
RegEx was way simpler than yours...)
Unfortunately I cannot find a way to do it automatically, because
there are instances where the straight double quotes are actually used
by Lyx. So I guess I'll have to confirm every single one. Long night
ahead (book is close to 300K words...)

Thanks for confirming my hunch and providing the regex.


Cheers,

Stefano
-- 
__
Stefano Franchi
Associate Research Professor
Department of Hispanic Studies            Ph:   +1 (979) 845-2125
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Re: Global find and replace of straight quotes with proper curly quotes?

[Enrico Forestieri]

stefano franchi writes:
 sorry for not being clear. I can match a space with a regex in the
 find field (I did it with /s), but how do I put the space back in? The
 replace field does not allow regexes nor spaces.

Try inserting an empty ERT (Ctrl+L) and then a space.

-- 
Enrico

Re: numbering multi-line formulas

[David L. Johnson]

On 04/15/2012 06:18 PM, El Merehbi, Ibrahim wrote:

Hello again,

I believe I didn't clear it out well. I meant a shortcut for the
eqnarray not the equation numbering.

Sorry, I misunderstood.  Add to the shortcuts something like this:

command-sequence math-mode on; math-mutate eqnarray;

and link it to your favorite hot-key.  I use F12.

--

David L. Johnson

A mathematician is a machine for turning coffee into theorems.
-- Paul Erdos

Re: Global find and replace of straight quotes with proper curly quotes?

[Richard Heck]

On 04/15/2012 12:13 PM, stefano franchi wrote:

On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Richard Heckrgh...@comcast.net  wrote:

On 04/14/2012 07:39 PM, stefano franchi wrote:

I have a (long) manuscript imported from Framemaker via Latex where
all the quotation marks (both single and double) appear in Lyx as
straight quotes instead of the properly curly ones. The source view,
in fact, shows me countless \texquotedbl commands instead of regular
quotes.

Is there any way to do a global find and replace that would properly
substitute opening straight quotes with open single|double quotes and
viceversa for closing quotes? I could search and replace for
space+quote(s) and, respectively for quote+space. That would work in
most cases and I could fix the remaining issues by hand. I thought the
new find and replace could manage, but:

1. I cannot do a simple find and replace for [space][quote] because I
am not allowed to enter a space in the find area
2. I can search for reg expression \s thereby finding most of the
instances I'm looking for.  But I cannot enter a space in the replace
area, nor can I enter a regular expression in it (as the manual
explains, reg expressions are not allowed in the replace area yet).
3. Using regular expressions as sketched above in an external editor
breaks the lyx file, because straight quotes are needed for citation
commands (and probably in other places as well.

Any idea?


Try inserting into the Advanced Find field: [REGEX .*] , or something like
that. The regex matches anything, or nothing, so is pointless, but it allows
you to enter the space. You could presumably also enter a user-defined regex
for a space: \s.

Hi Richard,

sorry for not being clear. I can match a space with a regex in the
find field (I did it with /s), but how do I put the space back in? The
replace field does not allow regexes nor spaces.
If you do the first thing I suggested, with the pointless regex, will 
that work?


Richard

Re: Global find and replace of straight quotes with proper curly quotes?

[Richard Heck]

On 04/14/2012 07:39 PM, stefano franchi wrote:

I have a (long) manuscript imported from Framemaker via Latex where
all the quotation marks (both single and double) appear in Lyx as
straight quotes instead of the properly curly ones. The source view,
in fact, shows me countless \texquotedbl commands instead of regular
quotes.

Is there any way to do a global find and replace that would properly
substitute opening straight quotes with open single|double quotes and
viceversa for closing quotes? I could search and replace for
space+quote(s) and, respectively for quote+space. That would work in
most cases and I could fix the remaining issues by hand. I thought the
new find and replace could manage, but:

1. I cannot do a simple find and replace for [space][quote] because I
am not allowed to enter a space in the find area
2. I can search for reg expression \s" thereby finding most of the
instances I'm looking for.  But I cannot enter a space in the replace
area, nor can I enter a regular expression in it (as the manual
explains, reg expressions are not allowed in the replace area yet).
3. Using regular expressions as sketched above in an external editor
breaks the lyx file, because straight quotes are needed for citation
commands (and probably in other places as well.

Any idea?

Try inserting into the Advanced Find field: [REGEX .*] ", or something 
like that. The regex matches anything, or nothing, so is pointless, but 
it allows you to enter the space. You could presumably also enter a 
user-defined regex for a space: \s.


Richard

Re: Citation style 'Text after' separator

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

2012/4/13 Anne:
> I'm a bit of a lyx newb and I had the problem Sam Aaron had. So I pasted your
> TeX command (\def\@cite#1#2{[{#1\if  tempswa : #2\fi}]}) into the TeX box 
> at
> the beginning of my lyx document. But I still get the comma instead of the 
> colon
> though and I don't quite know why.

The solution really depends what bibliography style (i.e., standard,
natbib, jurabib or biblatex) you are using. You should give us some
more information about that.

BTW the above (which probably only works for standard) is mangled by
the @-mapping of the mailing list. It really should read
\def\@cite#1#2{[{#1\if@tempswa : #2\fi}]}

Jürgen

> Many thanks!
> Anne

Re: Global find and replace of straight quotes with proper curly quotes?

[stefano franchi]

On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Richard Heck  wrote:
> On 04/14/2012 07:39 PM, stefano franchi wrote:
>>
>> I have a (long) manuscript imported from Framemaker via Latex where
>> all the quotation marks (both single and double) appear in Lyx as
>> straight quotes instead of the properly curly ones. The source view,
>> in fact, shows me countless \texquotedbl commands instead of regular
>> quotes.
>>
>> Is there any way to do a global find and replace that would properly
>> substitute opening straight quotes with open single|double quotes and
>> viceversa for closing quotes? I could search and replace for
>> space+quote(s) and, respectively for quote+space. That would work in
>> most cases and I could fix the remaining issues by hand. I thought the
>> new find and replace could manage, but:
>>
>> 1. I cannot do a simple find and replace for [space][quote] because I
>> am not allowed to enter a space in the find area
>> 2. I can search for reg expression \s" thereby finding most of the
>> instances I'm looking for.  But I cannot enter a space in the replace
>> area, nor can I enter a regular expression in it (as the manual
>> explains, reg expressions are not allowed in the replace area yet).
>> 3. Using regular expressions as sketched above in an external editor
>> breaks the lyx file, because straight quotes are needed for citation
>> commands (and probably in other places as well.
>>
>> Any idea?
>>
> Try inserting into the Advanced Find field: [REGEX .*] ", or something like
> that. The regex matches anything, or nothing, so is pointless, but it allows
> you to enter the space. You could presumably also enter a user-defined regex
> for a space: \s.

Hi Richard,

sorry for not being clear. I can match a space with a regex in the
find field (I did it with /s), but how do I put the space back in? The
replace field does not allow regexes nor spaces.

Cheers,

Stefano

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__
Stefano Franchi
Associate Research Professor
Department of Hispanic Studies            Ph:   +1 (979) 845-2125
Texas A University                          Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
College Station, Texas, USA

stef...@tamu.edu
http://stefano.cleinias.org

Re: Getting rid of "You cannot type two spaces this way" message?

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 8:46 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Bill Foote  wrote:
> > Is there an easy way for me to get rid of the "You cannot ... Please
> read the
> > tutorial" message?  I know that typing two spaces that way doesn't
> change the
> > layout, and I'm more-or-less fine with LyX auto-deleting the space.  I'm
> > completely fine with TeX not changing the formatting based on "extra"
> spaces.
> > With all that said, I'd prefer that LyX stop nagging.  I know already!
> >
> Start ignoring it. :)


If you're an iPad or iPhone user like me it's hard to ignore such a message
because in the iOS environment hitting double space is a natural and useful
thing ... it inserts a fullstop and inter-sentence spacing so one's eye
gaze is on the screen checking that the correct thing has happened or
because one is a touch typist and that's where you look too.


> This is what I did. Besides, it's a good idea to
> always show it, so as to quickly and clearly explain new users what
> happens and why. LyX cannot know whether the user typing _knows_ it
> already or not.
>

Except that I for one and I guess Bill for his need to comment are not new
users of LyX. We don't need that sort of "nanny state" warning. Indeed if
the key sequence has no meaning in LyX then I'd argue that there is
absolutely no need for a message at all. Just have it drop the second space
quietly and move on.

Regards, Trevor.

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Re: Global find and replace of straight quotes with proper curly quotes?

[Steve Litt]

On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 18:39:15 -0500
stefano franchi  wrote:

> I have a (long) manuscript imported from Framemaker via Latex where
> all the quotation marks (both single and double) appear in Lyx as
> straight quotes instead of the properly curly ones. The source view,
> in fact, shows me countless \texquotedbl commands instead of regular
> quotes.

When you say "source view", do you mean viewed in a text editor?

My LyX 2.0.0 April 29, 2011 on Ubuntu 11.04 errored out when I put an
ERT symbol of \texquotedbl into a document. In my LyX, when I put in a
straight quote (Ctrl+Shift+"), in Vim it's just an ascii doublequote.
In my LyX, viewed in Vim, my curly quotes look like this:

\begin_inset Quotes eld
\end_inset

phrase to be quoted
\begin_inset Quotes erd
\end_inset


> 
> Is there any way to do a global find and replace that would properly
> substitute opening straight quotes with open single|double quotes and
> viceversa for closing quotes?

Personally, I think this is a job for Vim. Or maybe a short program in
awk, Perl, Python, Ruby or Lua.

I just experimented with it, and assuming you can get your LyX to treat
a straight quote as the ascii character (maybe by changing your
fontenc), then I think the following two commands, within Vim, should
do what you want:


:%s/\(\s\)"\(\S\)/\1\r\\begin_inset Quotes eld\r\\end_inset\r\r\2/gc

:%s/\(\S\)"\(\s\)/\1\r\\begin_inset Quotes erd\r\\end_inset\r\r\2/gc

Note that the c on the end of each of those commands causes it to ask,
on each one, whether it's OK to make the change. If you don't want to
be asked, eliminate the trailing c on each command and they'll do the
job in a matter of seconds for a 100K word book.

Obviously, you'll need to back up the original in case my commands do
more harm than good.

Anyway, if you can get your LyX to treat straightdoublequotes like
ascii characters, I'd anticipate this solution will take you a few
minutes.

As far as single quotes, I'd do those manually. If your writing is
anything like mine, the VAST majority of single quotes are apostrophes,
and as far as I know those SHOULD be straightquotes. From what I
understand, you use straight double quotes only in a quotation within a
quotation, which are rare. I'd seek out such instances, delete the
straight single quote, and type in Ctrl+' to insert the proper curly
quote. LyX knows by context whether to make it a beginning or ending
singlequote.

HTH

SteveT

Re: numbering multi-line formulas

[El Merehbi, Ibrahim]

Hello again,

I believe I didn't clear it out well. I meant a shortcut for the 
"eqnarray" not the equation numbering.

The default of your stated functions are:

math-number-line-toggle: Alt+M Shift+N
math-number-toggle: Alt+M N

both of which do the same thing; I already use the second one for 
numbering.

Note: LyX 2.0.3 on Ubuntu 10.04

Thanks again

On Fri 13 Apr 2012 07:24:59 PM EEST, David L. Johnson wrote:
> On 04/13/2012 08:32 AM, Merhebi, Bob wrote:
>> Hello David,
>>
>> Thanks for your reply on this topic; I also benefited from this. One
>> question though; isn't there a keyboard shortcut to use it instead of
>> using the menus?
> You can define keyboard shortcuts to substitute for many, if not all,
> menu choices.  I only use a few such shortcuts, and not for line
> numbering since I don't do that so often.  Look under Tools >
> Preferences > Shortcuts > Mathematical symbols, for
> math-number-line-toggle and math-number-toggle and assign them as you
> prefer.
>>
>> Another question is regarding fullscreen mode; the math toolbar pops out
>> when I use Ctrl(+Shift)+M&  that's useful, but what about the main
>> toolbar? is there a way to bring it out "temporarily" in fullscreen
>> mode?
>
> I don't know.
>

--
Sincerely Yours,
-El Merehbi, Ibrahim (Bob)

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Re: Global find and replace of straight quotes with proper curly quotes?

[stefano franchi]

HI Steve,

On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Steve Litt  wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 18:39:15 -0500
> stefano franchi  wrote:
>
>> I have a (long) manuscript imported from Framemaker via Latex where
>> all the quotation marks (both single and double) appear in Lyx as
>> straight quotes instead of the properly curly ones. The source view,
>> in fact, shows me countless \texquotedbl commands instead of regular
>> quotes.
>
> When you say "source view", do you mean viewed in a text editor?

No, I meant the LateX code you get to see with Lyx's own "View Source" command.
In Lyx (not Latex) source code, they are just straight ascii double quotes

>
> My LyX 2.0.0 April 29, 2011 on Ubuntu 11.04 errored out when I put an
> ERT symbol of \texquotedbl into a document. In my LyX, when I put in a
> straight quote (Ctrl+Shift+"), in Vim it's just an ascii doublequote.
> In my LyX, viewed in Vim, my curly quotes look like this:
>
> \begin_inset Quotes eld
> \end_inset
>
> phrase to be quoted
> \begin_inset Quotes erd
> \end_inset

Same here

>
>
>>
>> Is there any way to do a global find and replace that would properly
>> substitute opening straight quotes with open single|double quotes and
>> viceversa for closing quotes?
>
> Personally, I think this is a job for Vim. Or maybe a short program in
> awk, Perl, Python, Ruby or Lua.
>
> I just experimented with it, and assuming you can get your LyX to treat
> a straight quote as the ascii character (maybe by changing your
> fontenc), then I think the following two commands, within Vim, should
> do what you want:
>
> :%s/\(\s\)"\(\S\)/\1\r\\begin_inset Quotes eld\r\\end_inset\r\r\2/gc
>
> :%s/\(\S\)"\(\s\)/\1\r\\begin_inset Quotes erd\r\\end_inset\r\r\2/gc
>


That's pretty much what I was trying to do in Kile (even though my
RegEx was way simpler than yours...)
Unfortunately I cannot find a way to do it automatically, because
there are instances where the straight double quotes are actually used
by Lyx. So I guess I'll have to confirm every single one. Long night
ahead (book is close to 300K words...)

Thanks for confirming my hunch and providing the regex.


Cheers,

Stefano
-- 
__
Stefano Franchi
Associate Research Professor
Department of Hispanic Studies            Ph:   +1 (979) 845-2125
Texas A University                          Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
College Station, Texas, USA

stef...@tamu.edu
http://stefano.cleinias.org

Re: Global find and replace of straight quotes with proper curly quotes?

[Enrico Forestieri]

stefano franchi writes:
> sorry for not being clear. I can match a space with a regex in the
> find field (I did it with /s), but how do I put the space back in? The
> replace field does not allow regexes nor spaces.

Try inserting an empty ERT (Ctrl+L) and then a space.

-- 
Enrico

Re: numbering multi-line formulas

[David L. Johnson]

On 04/15/2012 06:18 PM, El Merehbi, Ibrahim wrote:

Hello again,

I believe I didn't clear it out well. I meant a shortcut for the
"eqnarray" not the equation numbering.

Sorry, I misunderstood.  Add to the shortcuts something like this:

command-sequence math-mode on; math-mutate eqnarray;

and link it to your favorite hot-key.  I use F12.

--

David L. Johnson

A mathematician is a machine for turning coffee into theorems.
-- Paul Erdos

Re: Global find and replace of straight quotes with proper curly quotes?

[Richard Heck]

On 04/15/2012 12:13 PM, stefano franchi wrote:

On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Richard Heck  wrote:

On 04/14/2012 07:39 PM, stefano franchi wrote:

I have a (long) manuscript imported from Framemaker via Latex where
all the quotation marks (both single and double) appear in Lyx as
straight quotes instead of the properly curly ones. The source view,
in fact, shows me countless \texquotedbl commands instead of regular
quotes.

Is there any way to do a global find and replace that would properly
substitute opening straight quotes with open single|double quotes and
viceversa for closing quotes? I could search and replace for
space+quote(s) and, respectively for quote+space. That would work in
most cases and I could fix the remaining issues by hand. I thought the
new find and replace could manage, but:

1. I cannot do a simple find and replace for [space][quote] because I
am not allowed to enter a space in the find area
2. I can search for reg expression \s" thereby finding most of the
instances I'm looking for.  But I cannot enter a space in the replace
area, nor can I enter a regular expression in it (as the manual
explains, reg expressions are not allowed in the replace area yet).
3. Using regular expressions as sketched above in an external editor
breaks the lyx file, because straight quotes are needed for citation
commands (and probably in other places as well.

Any idea?


Try inserting into the Advanced Find field: [REGEX .*] ", or something like
that. The regex matches anything, or nothing, so is pointless, but it allows
you to enter the space. You could presumably also enter a user-defined regex
for a space: \s.

Hi Richard,

sorry for not being clear. I can match a space with a regex in the
find field (I did it with /s), but how do I put the space back in? The
replace field does not allow regexes nor spaces.
If you do the first thing I suggested, with the pointless regex, will 
that work?


Richard