Re: How to add Hebrew hyphenruls?
Am 21.03.22 um 16:53 schrieb tush via lyx-users:
I am writing a document in Hebrew. Choosing "Hebrew" as the document's
language together with Language Package Automatic (and ticking "Use
Non TeX font") adds the following to the preamble:
\usepackage{polyglossia}
\setdefaultlanguage{hebrew}
\setotherlanguage{english}
(which is correct)
Now I want to add some Hebrew hyphenation rules. For that one should
add after the above three lines the rules as an hyphenrules
environment, like the following:
\begin{hyphenrules}{hebrew}
\hyphenation{או-פ-ט-י-מ-ליות}
\end{hyphenrules}
These kind of rules should appear after loading polyglossia.
Try in the documents preamble:
\AtBeginDocument{%
\begin{hyphenrules}{hebrew}
\hyphenation{או-פ-ט-י-מ-ליות}
\end{hyphenrules}}
Herbert
How can I tell LyX about those hyphenrules? If I insert it to the
document preamble via the document settings dialogue, then the rules
are called *before* polyglossia and I get an error.
Any idea or suggestion for that?
The other thing I can do is to choose "None" in the Language package
and just type manually all the commands (use polyglossia, declare
languages, state the hyphen rules).
But that sort of misses the help LyX editor offers me - to type
manually less commands.
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Re: Solved and addendum >Re: biblatex-spbasic
Am 16.03.22 um 09:08 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann via lyx-users: Am 16.03.22 um 08:59 schrieb Herbert Voss via lyx-users: Am 16.03.22 um 08:46 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann via lyx-users: I selected biblatex citation style Nature and kept biblatex-spbasic for the bibliography style. The citations are now in [number], but that's ok. Thanks, Herbert, for the suggestion. Wolfgang Addendum: This is of course nonsense: "I selected biblatex citation style Nature and kept biblatex-spbasic for > the bibliography style." I can't keep biblatex-spbasic, since it is not numeric. The bibliography style should also be Nature It is possible to combine the styles: citestyle=nature, bibstyle=sbbasic Herbert You mean biblatex-spbasic (selected from the Biblatex bibliography style menu)? But this does not give numbers in the Bibliography, i.e. you can't find your citations there. yes, I meant it more generally. For your need it makes sense to have citestyle=nature, bibstyle=numeric Herbert -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: Solved and addendum >Re: biblatex-spbasic
Am 16.03.22 um 08:46 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann via lyx-users: I selected biblatex citation style Nature and kept biblatex-spbasic for the bibliography style. The citations are now in [number], but that's ok. Thanks, Herbert, for the suggestion. Wolfgang Addendum: This is of course nonsense: "I selected biblatex citation style Nature and kept biblatex-spbasic for > the bibliography style." I can't keep biblatex-spbasic, since it is not numeric. The bibliography style should also be Nature It is possible to combine the styles: citestyle=nature, bibstyle=sbbasic Herbert -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: Continuation of lists across beamer frames
Am 15.03.22 um 21:48 schrieb Paul A. Rubin via lyx-users:
On 3/15/22 15:29, Herbert Voss via lyx-users wrote:
Am 15.03.22 um 19:36 schrieb Paul A. Rubin via lyx-users:
On 3/15/22 13:07, markhsalmon wrote:
Thank you Paul, I really appreciate your response but this is such
a common issue - at least for me- every lecture pack I produce has
this problem perhaps every 5 slides so its really driving me round
the bend. I just leave the environment behind by default and
manually add the next number but it looks cheap and nasty. Why
can’t there be an option to restart previous numbering? I seem to
remember that option exists in scientific word so it must be
possible to implement this as a very simple click choice? I have
been pointed to the ERT route before but this is really a cry to
the developers of Lyx. Thanks again Paul.
Cheers,
Mark
Decision making is about predicting counterfactuals
My bad. I forgot that one of the devs (Jürgen?) already created a
workaround in the form of a module. I've attached a different MWE.
You just have to add the "Beamer Resumable Enumerate" module and
then choose "Enumerate-Resume" rather than "Enumerate" from the
environment selection list.
using package enumitem, defining an own list
\newlist{myEnum}{enumerate}{3}
\setlist{myEnum}{resume}
putting it into a LyX layout and you can use the new list myEnum
which always
has a continuing counter.
Herbert
Is enumitem compatible with Beamer? The Beamer layout forbids the
enumitem module.
Ah, yes. I forgot ot. But is no problem to define it without enumitem!
Herbert
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Re: Continuation of lists across beamer frames
Am 15.03.22 um 19:36 schrieb Paul A. Rubin via lyx-users:
On 3/15/22 13:07, markhsalmon wrote:
Thank you Paul, I really appreciate your response but this is such a
common issue - at least for me- every lecture pack I produce has this
problem perhaps every 5 slides so its really driving me round the
bend. I just leave the environment behind by default and manually add
the next number but it looks cheap and nasty. Why can’t there be an
option to restart previous numbering? I seem to remember that option
exists in scientific word so it must be possible to implement this as
a very simple click choice? I have been pointed to the ERT route
before but this is really a cry to the developers of Lyx. Thanks
again Paul.
Cheers,
Mark
Decision making is about predicting counterfactuals
My bad. I forgot that one of the devs (Jürgen?) already created a
workaround in the form of a module. I've attached a different MWE. You
just have to add the "Beamer Resumable Enumerate" module and then
choose "Enumerate-Resume" rather than "Enumerate" from the environment
selection list.
using package enumitem, defining an own list
\newlist{myEnum}{enumerate}{3}
\setlist{myEnum}{resume}
putting it into a LyX layout and you can use the new list myEnum which
always
has a continuing counter.
Herbert
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Re: biblatex-spbasic
Am 14.03.22 um 08:07 schrieb Herbert Voss via lyx-users:
Am 14.03.22 um 07:58 schrieb Herbert Voss via lyx-users:
Am 14.03.22 um 07:53 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann via lyx-users:
Am 14.03.22 um 07:51 schrieb Herbert Voss via lyx-users:
Am 14.03.22 um 07:47 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann via lyx-users:
Example:
was shown by Muller^7 and ...
The Bibliography shows the full reference Muller...
This _is_ \footcite{key} with a short reference as footnote and
bib as usual.
Herbert
I meant ONLY the ^7, WITHOUT the footnote
then you also need a bibliography in numeric style. But spbasic has
a bib in author-year-style
Herbert
What would be the next best numeric style to spbasic ?
there is no best, it is the default style "numeric" with changing \cite
to footnotes.
You can try "style=nature" instead of footnotes
sorry, read "instead of numeric"
Herbert
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Re: biblatex-spbasic
Am 14.03.22 um 07:58 schrieb Herbert Voss via lyx-users:
Am 14.03.22 um 07:53 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann via lyx-users:
Am 14.03.22 um 07:51 schrieb Herbert Voss via lyx-users:
Am 14.03.22 um 07:47 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann via lyx-users:
Example:
was shown by Muller^7 and ...
The Bibliography shows the full reference Muller...
This _is_ \footcite{key} with a short reference as footnote and
bib as usual.
Herbert
I meant ONLY the ^7, WITHOUT the footnote
then you also need a bibliography in numeric style. But spbasic has
a bib in author-year-style
Herbert
What would be the next best numeric style to spbasic ?
there is no best, it is the default style "numeric" with changing \cite
to footnotes.
You can try "style=nature" instead of footnotes
It is the style from the "nature" journal.
Herbert
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Re: biblatex-spbasic
Am 14.03.22 um 07:53 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann via lyx-users:
Am 14.03.22 um 07:51 schrieb Herbert Voss via lyx-users:
Am 14.03.22 um 07:47 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann via lyx-users:
Example:
was shown by Muller^7 and ...
The Bibliography shows the full reference Muller...
This _is_ \footcite{key} with a short reference as footnote and bib
as usual.
Herbert
I meant ONLY the ^7, WITHOUT the footnote
then you also need a bibliography in numeric style. But spbasic has
a bib in author-year-style
Herbert
What would be the next best numeric style to spbasic ?
there is no best, it is the default style "numeric" with changing \cite
to footnotes.
Herbert
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Re: biblatex-spbasic
Am 14.03.22 um 07:47 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann via lyx-users:
Example:
was shown by Muller^7 and ...
The Bibliography shows the full reference Muller...
This _is_ \footcite{key} with a short reference as footnote and bib
as usual.
Herbert
I meant ONLY the ^7, WITHOUT the footnote
then you also need a bibliography in numeric style. But spbasic has
a bib in author-year-style
Herbert
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Re: biblatex-spbasic
Am 14.03.22 um 07:37 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann via lyx-users:
Am 13.03.22 um 07:41 schrieb Herbert Voss via lyx-users:
Am 12.03.22 um 17:53 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann via lyx-users:
I would like to use biblatex-spbasic for the literature citations
and the Bibliography.
I have selected the style in Document Settings>Bibliography.
However, I would like to have a superscript number instead of the
names/years in the document. The output in the Bibliography should
be as before.
Do you mean \footcite and /or \footfullcite ?? If yes, see
documentation.
Herbert
Is this possible already or do I have to wait until somebody is kind
enough to create it?
The reason is, that I have a large amount of citations in the
document and reading the text would be less fluent if the names/year
is given instead of just a superscript.
Example:
was shown by Muller^7 and ...
The Bibliography shows the full reference Muller...
This _is_ \footcite{key} with a short reference as footnote and bib as
usual.
Herbert
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Re: biblatex-spbasic
Am 12.03.22 um 17:53 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann via lyx-users: I would like to use biblatex-spbasic for the literature citations and the Bibliography. I have selected the style in Document Settings>Bibliography. However, I would like to have a superscript number instead of the names/years in the document. The output in the Bibliography should be as before. Do you mean \footcite and /or \footfullcite ?? If yes, see documentation. Herbert Is this possible already or do I have to wait until somebody is kind enough to create it? The reason is, that I have a large amount of citations in the document and reading the text would be less fluent if the names/year is given instead of just a superscript. -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: Vertical spaces between references.
Am 21.02.22 um 13:04 schrieb ananda.samaddar via lyx-users:
Apologies for top-posting. Kmail is a buggy POS and just will not
work properly replying to mailing lists so I have to use the webclient.
Sorry if I'm being a bit stupid here but adding:
\bibitemsep
\setlength\bibitemsep{2mm}
to the preamble results in compilation errors for me the log output is
below:
A misunderstanding. The first command was only from my
description. However, you yeed the following in the preamble:
\AtBeginDocument{\setlength\bibitemsep{2mm}}
because LyX loads biblatex later and until then \bibitemsep
is unknown. Let ME know if you need an example file
Herbert
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Re: Vertical spaces between references.
Am 21.02.22 um 11:51 schrieb Ananda Samaddar via lyx-users:
I can't seem to find a way to add vertical space in between my biblatex
generated bibliography. I'm using the verbose-inote style for my bibliography
with biblatex using biber as a processor. I'm sure it's something silly that
I've missed somewhere so any help would be appreciated.
Write into the preamble:
\bibitemsep The vertical space between the individual entries in the
bibliography.
Use \setlength\bibitemsep{2mm} or \addtolength\bibitemsep{1mm}
Herbert
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Re: Index pagestyle
Am 20.02.22 um 18:45 schrieb _johnny7_ger--- via lyx-users:
I have almost finished my book and have now begun to add an index. It
works fine, so far, but the page layout of the index is not perfect. I
use fancyhdr and have added (thanks to the LyX Wiki)
\renewcommand{\ps@plain}{\pagestyle{fancy}}
in the preamble. Now the first page of the index looks like it should,
giving only the page number.
That is the default for a chapter start, like \printindex: pagestyle
is here _always_ plain! The next page gets the current pagestyle fancy,
if you have it already set.
On the second page, however, the header
shows the index title in uppercase-letters as opposed to my definition
of the pagestyle fancy (small capitals). I tried to write
\markboth{}{}
Witg fancyhdr you can set individually header/footer at any
position in your text. No need for using \markboth
Herbert
before printing the index to suppress the header but that only has an
effect on the first page of the index, not the following.
How can I control the page layout of the index? If possible I want to
avoid using a style file for makeindex.
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Re: Program Listings
Joseph Hesse via lyx-users schrieb: > On 1/12/22 15:00, Herbert Voss via lyx-users wrote: >> >> Use /Insert -> Program Listing/ option. >> > > I tried what you suggested. I right clicked on the inset and could not > find an option where I could specify where my code listing are located. What do you mean with "listing are located"? If you do not define it as a float it will appear at the place where you defined it. Attached the screenshot of the output of the demo file. Herbert lst1.lyx Description: Binary data -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: Program Listings
Am 12.01.22 um 13:22 schrieb Joseph Hesse via lyx-users: I am writing a programing book and want to have programs that have been prepared with a text editor included in the book. This is what I have done so far. Insert->File->Child Document File: CodeListings/Test.cpp Include Type: Program Listing Caption: My Caption Label: First Program More Parameters: numbers=left, frame=tb, caption=b, float It sort of works but I need assistance. The caption I have set above does not appear on the bottom as "caption=b" would suggest. The label I have set above does not appear anywhere. I would like the text of the inserted program to have "typewriter" font and be colored green. How do I do this. Am I on the right track, is the above the correct way of doing what I want? Use /Insert -> Program Listing/ option. Herbert -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: biblatex error. Can't get correct pdf output
Am 08.01.22 um 12:01 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann via lyx-users:
However:
A08-TEST.lyx
with SP-WITTE-2022.bib
does not show the references in the bibliography and the one in the
text is bold, not blue
These are the errors/warnings:
Biber error: BibTeX subsystem:
/tmp/biber_tmp_tYGf/d7dc170ec507816e85d64326c042e07e_5570.utf8, line
2837, syntax error: found ",", expected one of: number, name (entry
type, key, field, or macro name), end of entry ("}" or ")") or quoted
string ({...} or "...")
and descripition of error:
[6143] Utils.pm:411> ERROR - BibTeX subsystem:
/tmp/biber_tmp_tYGf/d7dc170ec507816e85d64326c042e07e_5570.utf8, line
2837, syntax error: found ",", expected one of: number, name (entry
type, key, field, or macro name), end of entry ("}" or ")") or quoted
string ({...} or "...")
Wolfgang,
the error message says it all: Line 2837 of the bib file is a problem
or at least the line
where something is detected as wrong. And in that line biber found a comma
but expected a number or name to read ...
Line 2837 is:
@InBook{,
...
There is the key missing, for example
@InBook{Ding2019,
...
btw: do not attached the biblatex-spbasic, it is already part of
TeXLive and MiKTeX.
Herbert
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Re: TOC in pdf colored red
On 08/01/2022 06:32, Joseph Hesse via lyx-users wrote: Hi, I am writing a book in lyx. When I look at the pdf the TOC appears red. How can I fix this so it is in black and white? I want to keep my URL links as colored blue. Go into the preferences menue and insert the following options for hyperref colorlinks, citecolor=black, filecolor=black, linkcolor=black, urlcolor=blue, linktocpage, linktoc=all Herbert -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: How to (re)run biber
Am 07.01.22 um 15:18 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann via lyx-users: a short lyx file (attached) with just one reference and some text is not correctly exported to lualatex pdf (thick reference instead of a blue reference, no bibliography shown). I use lualatex and the biblatex-spbasic style file (attached). In the latex log I am told to rerun biber: Package biblatex Warning: Please (re)run Biber on the file: Question: Why do I have to (re)run biber and how is it done? Wolfgang, your example cannot work! In the lyx file you have defined: bibfiles "SP-WITTE-2022-AUX" but your attached bibfile has the filename: "OneRef.bib" Changing the filename with clicking on the "prinbibliography" button in the opened LyX file to the correct one and then running the document everything is fine. Herbert -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: lyx_tmpdirs in /tmp
Am 05.01.22 um 19:08 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann via lyx-users: On 05.01.22 18:08, Wolfgang Engelmann via lyx-users wrote: On 05.01.22 16:59, Paul A. Rubin via lyx-users wrote: On 1/5/22 8:29 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann via lyx-users wrote: Can I delete the lyx_tmpdirs in the root /tmp? I have the impression, that a rerun of lyx uses it, which I do not want. I run the current development version and all temp files are deleted by default when closing LyX. > I have removed the /lyx_tmpbuf folder, but in running lyx again I get an error reading in temporal layout information and could not open /lyx_tmpbuf ... .tex Will wait until tomorrow and hope the temporal files are gone. start LyX and controll the ownership of the temporary directory. It should be own by the user. Herbert -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: How would LyX perform?
Am 31.12.21 um 01:41 schrieb Steve Litt via lyx-users: Herbert Voss via lyx-users said on Thu, 30 Dec 2021 14:52:15 +0100 Am 30.12.21 um 14:46 schrieb Steve Litt via lyx-users: Wolfgang Engelmann via lyx-users said on Mon, 27 Dec 2021 11:31:55 +0100 This has shocked me https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0115069 Would be interesting to see how LyX performs Plain TeX would be much better than LaTeX, as a native format, if it could handle fonts well. Does anyone know of a Plain TeX to LuaTeX or XeTeX converter? What do you want to convert?? Every Plain TeX document runs with LuaTeX or XeTeX, but, of course, not vice versa! My thought is that I need to convert because I need to use the tex-gyre-schola font, and as far as I know, Plain TeX won't accommodate this font. So, as I understand it, my process would need to be: 1: Write in Plain TeX with whatever font is available 2: Convert Plain TeX to LuaTeX You only have to load the font, tha's all ... \input luaotfload.sty \font\rm="[texgyreschola-regular.otf]:+lnum;+dlig" \font\bf="TeXGyre Schola/B:+lnum;+dlig" \font\it="TeXGyre Schola/I:+lnum;+dlig" \font\bfit="TeXGyre Schola/BI:+lnum;+dlig" at 15pt \rm TeX Gyre Schola regular \bf TeX Gyre Schola bold \it TeX Gyre Schola italic \bfit TeX Gyre Schola bolditalic \bye Herbert 3: Use AWK to replace the font with tex-gyre-schola 4: Compile to PDF The reason I need this is I could *easily* convert from (X)HTML5 to Plain TeX. If I can go the rest of the way I can make a nice PDF from XHTML5. But I have neither the programming skills nor the LaTeX knowledge to create LaTeX from XHTML5. Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt Spring 2021 featured book: Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist http://www.troubleshooters.com/techniques -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: How would LyX perform?
Am 30.12.21 um 14:46 schrieb Steve Litt via lyx-users: Wolfgang Engelmann via lyx-users said on Mon, 27 Dec 2021 11:31:55 +0100 This has shocked me https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0115069 Would be interesting to see how LyX performs Plain TeX would be much better than LaTeX, as a native format, if it could handle fonts well. Does anyone know of a Plain TeX to LuaTeX or XeTeX converter? What do you want to convert?? Every Plain TeX document runs with LuaTeX or XeTeX, but, of course, not vice versa! Herbert -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: LyX-LaTeX to Web
Am 22.12.21 um 11:07 schrieb Baris Erkus via lyx-users: I wonder if LyX or any other LaTeX based tool can be used to generate web site of a book as in the following example: export your document to LaTeX and then run latex2html https://ctan.org/pkg/latex2html?lang=de Herbert https://learnaboutstructures.com/Common-Load-Types-for-Beams-and-Frames Any direction would be appreciated. -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: biblatex warning
Am 22.12.21 um 10:50 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann via lyx-users: What does Package biblatex Warning: Macro 'note+pages' already defined. mean? Instead of \renewbibmacro there is a \newbibmacro in spbasic.bbx Will be fixed, but already doesn't hurt. These are the surrounding messages: Package biblatex Info: Delimiter 'nametitledelim' in context 'bib' already defined, overwriting. Package biblatex Info: Delimiter 'nametitledelim' in context 'biblist' already defined, overwriting. Package biblatex Info: Delimiter 'finalnamedelim' in context '' already defined, overwriting. Only infos that spbasic.bbx redefines existing delimiters. Herbert Package biblatex Warning: Macro 'note+pages' already defined. (biblatex) Using \renewbibmacro. ) Package biblatex Info: Trying to load citation style 'biblatex-spbasic'... Package biblatex Info: ... file 'biblatex-spbasic.cbx' found. Wolfgang -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: texlive and biblatex-spbasic
Am 20.12.21 um 19:20 schrieb Kornel Benko via lyx-users: Am Mon, 20 Dec 2021 19:17:49 +0100 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann via lyx-users : Am 20.12.21 um 18:18 schrieb Herbert Voss via lyx-users: Thanks, Herbert, for your help. One more question for chmod which did not work: And if you do not run the tlmgr as root then you do not need it for texhash. I prefer always user permissions for texlive. The reason why I did after installtion of texlive: sudo chmod -R voss:voss /usr/local/texlive sudo chmod -R wolfgang:wolfgang /usr/local/texlive/ chmod: Ungültiger Modus: „wolfgang:wolfgang“ „chmod --help“ liefert weitere Informationen. sudo chmod -R wolfgang /usr/local/texlive/ chmod: Ungültiger Modus: „wolfgang“ who am i wolfgang pts/22021-12-20 18:52 (:0) who wolfgang tty7 2021-12-20 10:16 (:0) wolfgang pts/02021-12-20 10:16 (:0) wolfgang pts/22021-12-20 18:52 (:0) wolfgang pts/32021-12-20 10:16 (:0) I do not know what would replace voss:voss in my case. Wolfgang You meant 'chown' probably. Uh, yes! Sorry Wolfgang and thanks Kornel sudo chown -R voss:voss /usr/local/texlive Herbert -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: texlive and biblatex-spbasic
Am 20.12.21 um 17:49 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann via lyx-users: I would like to better understand the tree(s) for texlive and what texhash and tlmgr do The important points are found behind the at the end of the mail. Thanks a lot Wolfgang Your installed tlmgr will notice and ask you to update it before updating anything else. The command to do this is: tlmgr update --self After any updates of tlmgr, you can then run, for instance, tlmgr update --all, which will update (including additions and removals) all other packages in your installation that have been changed on the server. sudo tlmgr update --self [sudo] Passwort für wolfgang: tlmgr: package repository https://ftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/tex/systems/texlive/tlnet (verified) tlmgr: saving backups to /usr/local/texlive/2021/tlpkg/backups tlmgr: no self-updates for tlmgr available tlmgr update --all Wolfgang, you can run tlmgr --self --all update then you do not need two comamnds sudo texhash that is already done my tlmgr. And if you do not run the tlmgr as root then you do not need it for texhash. I prefer always user permissions for texlive. The reason why I did after installtion of texlive: sudo chmod -R voss:voss /usr/local/texlive then everything in this directors has user permission! And I never need sudo to run texhash or tlmgr or wolfgang@Fuji:~$ find -iname 'texmf*' ./.texlive2020/texmf-var ./.texlive2016/texmf-var ./TEXMF-Sicherung ./TEXMF-Sicherung/texmf ./.texlive2019/texmf-var ./texmf ./.texlive2021/texmf-var wolfgang@Fuji:/$ sudo find -iname 'texmf*' ./root/.texlive2020/texmf-var this is always created if you install texlive as root and running tlmgr also as root. If you want to see which package is used, run kpsewhich biblatex-spbasic.sty then you'll get what TeX will find first and using. With kpsewhich --all biblatex-spbasic.sty you'll get all files in the TeX dirextory structure. wolfgang@Fuji:/usr/local/texlive/texmf-local$ ls -l insgesamt 52 -rw-r--r-- 1 wolfgang wolfgang 1943 15. Dez 15:02 biblatex-spbasic.bbx -rw-r--r-- 1 wolfgang wolfgang 2601 15. Dez 15:02 biblatex-spbasic.cbx -rw-rw-rw- 1 root staff 1578 10. Jul 20:01 biblatex-spbasic-old.bbx -rw-r--r-- 1 root staff 295 10. Jul 20:06 biblatex-spbasic-old.cbx Questions: How do I make sure the new version is used? first the current directory is searched, then an existing texmf directory, then the texmf-local directory, then the main texmf-dist/... Should I remove the older biblatex-spbasic? rename the old files to for example: biblatex-spbasic.bbx.20211212 How do I tell lyx to use the new version? It will be used automatically if you rename the old files. Herbert -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: Forest beyond basics
Am 19.12.21 um 22:24 schrieb Steve Litt via lyx-users: Maria Gouskova via lyx-users said on Sun, 19 Dec 2021 12:20:15 -0500 Dear LyX users, < (Actually, I suspect this is a question for Jürgen S., but on the off chance that someone else knows the answer...) I need to produce a diagram with the structure shown here. It was produced using the obsolete xyling package LyX and LaTeX were never intended to make drawings or diagrams. Not really. That is not true! From the beginning of LaTeX there was the picture environment with, of course, limited capability. But it was good enough for simple diagrams/graphics. Herbert it in your LyX document just like you'd put any old .png or more to the point .svg. LyX automatically recompiles your Inscape-produced .svg into a PDF suitable for LyX/LaTeX upon finding that the .svg has changed. You know what it's supposed to look like, so you can draw it yourself. For new work where you need a new "forest", whatever this "forest" thing is, find a forest making software that can export to .svg, and then you can either use that .svg, or modify it a little in Inkscape. SteveT Steve Litt Spring 2021 featured book: Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist http://www.troubleshooters.com/techniques -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: LuaTeX vs XeTeX
Am 17.12.21 um 20:20 schrieb Virgil Arrington: *From: *Herbert Voss via lyx-users <mailto:lyx-users@lists.lyx.org> *Sent: *Friday, December 17, 2021 6:06 AM *To: *lyx-users@lists.lyx.org *Subject: *Re: LuaTeX vs XeTeX Am 16.12.21 um 22:12 schrieb Virgil Arrington via lyx-users: > > Starting with the completely clean files, I added the Microtype > > package to both and compiled them. As with my first test, I got > > different results. XeTeX once again produced many more hyphenated > > lines -- essentially the same as it produced without Microtype -- than > > did LuaTeX. Neither produced any significant overfull lines at the > > right margin. > > > > So, it seems as if Microtype behaves differently with XeTeX and LuaTeX > > -- at least on my system. > > > Sure, microtype for xetex is not the same as microtype for luatex. So, I’ve learned a lot in the last couple days. Let’s see if I have this right. 1. PDFLaTeX creates documents using fonts supplied in the TeX distribution. 2. XeTeX creates documents using fonts supplied by the Operating System. also the ones from the TeX distribution if defined by the font's filename. Then kpsewhich can find the font. 3. LuaTeX can create documents using fonts from either the TeX distribution OR the OS system. luatex defines an own font database which also has the symbolic names of the fonts saved. .../texmf-var/luatex-cache/generic/names/luaotfload-names.lua.gz Herbert If I am right about #3, then I more fully understand Herbert’s original assertion that, with LuaTeX, there’s no reason to resort to PDF(La)TeX (or XeTeX for that matter). Virgil -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: LuaTeX vs XeTeX
Am 17.12.21 um 15:03 schrieb Neal Becker: I thought all LaTeX have to pass strict tests and produce identical results. Any difference due to different fonts. Is this correct? no. It is correct only for TeX, the original one! run the example with pdftex, xetex, and luatex \hsize 1cm internationalizationmachinery is a long word \bye Herbert On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 6:06 AM Herbert Voss via lyx-users wrote: Am 16.12.21 um 22:12 schrieb Virgil Arrington via lyx-users: Starting with the completely clean files, I added the Microtype package to both and compiled them. As with my first test, I got different results. XeTeX once again produced many more hyphenated lines -- essentially the same as it produced without Microtype -- than did LuaTeX. Neither produced any significant overfull lines at the right margin. So, it seems as if Microtype behaves differently with XeTeX and LuaTeX -- at least on my system. Sure, microtype for xetex is not the same as microtype for luatex. Herbert -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: LuaTeX vs XeTeX
Am 16.12.21 um 22:12 schrieb Virgil Arrington via lyx-users: Starting with the completely clean files, I added the Microtype package to both and compiled them. As with my first test, I got different results. XeTeX once again produced many more hyphenated lines -- essentially the same as it produced without Microtype -- than did LuaTeX. Neither produced any significant overfull lines at the right margin. So, it seems as if Microtype behaves differently with XeTeX and LuaTeX -- at least on my system. Sure, microtype for xetex is not the same as microtype for luatex. Herbert -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: LuaTeX vs XeTeX
Am 16.12.21 um 21:02 schrieb Virgil Arrington via lyx-users: On 12/16/2021 9:31 AM, Herbert Voss via lyx-users wrote: LuaTeX ,and XeTeX too, are more or less frozen code, just like TeX. Only bugs will be fixed. There are no good reasons _not_ to use LuaTeX instead of pdfTeX: I just performed an interesting experiment comparing the results from compiling the same source file with XeTeX, PDFLaTeX and LuaTeX. I was surprised by the results I got. In the past, I had found that, when I used XeTeX, I got more "overfull hboxes" with lines flowing past the right margin than I did with PDFLaTeX. I also would get *many* more hyphenated words with XeTeX than with PDFLaTeX. I assumed I would get similar results with LuaTeX, but I was pleasantly surprised. For my experiment, took a 45 page paper I wrote for a former employer. For the PDFLaTeX compiled version, I used the mathpazo Palatino font that came with MikTeX and compiled it with PDFLaTeX. For the XeTeX and LuaTeX versions, I used Windows' Palatino Linotype font. All other settings were the same, including the use of the Microtype package in all versions. Other font, new kernings, new hyphenations. mathpazo (Type 1) and Palatino (TrueType) are not the same font! In a single random paragraph, the resulting file compiled with XeTeX gave me eight hyphenated line endings. The same paragraph in the document compiled with LuaTeX gave me three hyphenated line endings, and the same paragraph in the document compiled with PDFLaTeX only gave me one hyphenated line ending. XeTeX also gave me many overfull lines, in fact so many as to make the resulting document all but unusable. PDFLaTeX gave me a few, but I could work with them. I was surprised to see that LuaTeX appeared to give me the fewest overfull lines. I saw very few lines that extended beyond the right margin, and those I did happen to find extended such a small amount as to be all but unnoticeable. I was very surprised by how different the results were when using XeTeX vs. LuaTeX. I had just assumed that the two engines would produce very similar results, but that was not the case at all. In fact, having seen LuaTeX's document, I can't imagine why anyone would choose XeTeX over LuaTeX. I was also surprised to see how well LuaTeX's results compared with PDFLaTeX's document. While LuaTex still gave me more hyphenated line endings, it gave me fewer noticeable overfull lines at the right margin. Do _not_ load any font and choose an empty preanble, then Computer Modern is used for pdflatex and Latin Modern for lualatex/xelatex. And then you will see _no_ difference in the created pdf. Herbert -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: LuaTeX vs XeTeX
Am 16.12.21 um 14:45 schrieb Pavel Sanda via lyx-users: On Mon, Nov 08, 2021 at 09:49:29AM +0100, Herbert Voss wrote: Am 08.11.21 um 09:46 schrieb Saša Janiška: On Mon, 8 Nov 2021 08:58:37 +0100 Herbert Voss wrote: LuaHBTeX (HB for HarfBuzz) is the default engine for lualatex Thank you since I was not aware of it despite it is being installed on my Debian machine. Otherwise, I was aware of LuaTeX since I was considering to use ConTeXt instead of LyX/LaTeX... I wrote everything with lualatex and use xelatex in only rare cases and never use pdf(la)tex Could anyone of the better informed review https://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LuaTeX ? Some of the claims (like LuaTeX is still in beta status) are unlikely to be truth and they can shape LyX users base in a wrong direction... That is wrong: LuaTeX ,and XeTeX too, are more or less frozen code, just like TeX. Only bugs will be fixed. There are no good reasons _not_ to use LuaTeX instead of pdfTeX: - no more fiddling around with the encoding, everything is UTF-8 - no more restrictions in using fonts, all current types are supported, like pfb, ttf, utf, ttc, ... - easy integration of the script language Lua into a document Herbert -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: Bibliography not in ToC
Am 14.12.21 um 22:11 schrieb Rich Shepard via lyx-users: On Tue, 14 Dec 2021, Herbert Voss via lyx-users wrote: not in my doc Regardless, in your version of the .lyx file cite-engine is biblatex while in mine it's biblatex-natbib, but I changed the bibliography style from the latter to the former and saved the change. Do I need to reconfigure LyX to get the change to take effect? Rich, no, switching to biblatex (without natbib) and deleting the option below was what I changed. Look into the status bar, what the biber runs reports. Herbert -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: Bibliography not in ToC
Am 14.12.21 um 21:30 schrieb Rich Shepard via lyx-users: On Tue, 14 Dec 2021, Herbert Voss via lyx-users wrote: then the biber run is missing. Try the following: you have a citation (the last one) which is not in the bib file. Delete it and run the document again. Does the TOC-entry appears? I'm not following. There are four citations in the text, each in its own chapter, and four entries in mwe.bib. The last citation is Shepard2016 and that's in the .bib file. Rich, not in my doc What is the control window The control window is under the text area. You have to enable it with the menu view->... Is that what I've known as the status bar? Ah yes, you are right. Attached your working example. HErbert<> -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: Bibliography not in ToC
Am 14.12.21 um 21:17 schrieb Rich Shepard via lyx-users:
On Tue, 14 Dec 2021, Herbert Voss via lyx-users wrote:
You have a wrong option in the document->settings->bibliography:
Delete the mergedate=compact. However, using the natbib mode
is something from the last millenium ... you should simply use
the authoryear style of biblatex.
Thanks. I don't know where the mergedate=compact came from.
I changed the style from biblatex(natbib mode) to biblatex.
It still does not output the bibliography nor place that entry in the
ToC.
Rich,
then the biber run is missing. Try the following: you have a citation
(the last one) which is not in the bib file. Delete it and run the document
again. Does the TOC-entry appears?
If you open the controll window in LyX then you see the errors
of the biber run, too!
What is the control window?
The control window is under the text area. You have to enable it
with the menu view->...
Btw:
- your format was defined as pdf (pdftex), but it should be pdf
(luatex)
In Settings -> Formats I have the output format set to PDF (pdflatex).
I've
no idea what luatex does)
- do not use the line
\usepackage{luainputenc}, it is superflous
There is no such line in the preamble:
Ah, maybe that it was the LyX internal preamble. I'll have look
at tomorrow.
Herbert
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Re: I think we need a better name than "MWE"
Am 14.12.21 um 21:11 schrieb Scott Kostyshak via lyx-users: On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 03:05:41PM -0500, Steve Litt via lyx-users wrote: Hi all, Here on the LyX list we use the word MWE to mean the simplest example that still exhibits the symptom. But MWE stands for Minimum *Working* Example, and by definition, the file that exhibits the symptom does not "work". Also, I think I've seen MWE used on various LaTeX venues to mean the smallest file that works, for a specific feature you want to incorporate. Can anyone think of a better name for the tiniest file that exhibits a symptom? Indeed it is confusing. What are your thoughts on "minimal example" ? Note that we have a Wiki page, although it doesn't address your question: MWE does _not_ mean a working example in the sense of a correct output. It means a minimal working one which shows the _problem_. Herbert -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: Bibliography not in ToC
Am 14.12.21 um 20:51 schrieb Herbert Voss via lyx-users: Am 14.12.21 um 19:58 schrieb Rich Shepard via lyx-users: Running LyX-2.3.6.1 on Slackware64-14.2. The bibliography settings at the end of the paper indicate the bibliography should be added to the end of the Table of Contents. It's not. Do I need to explicitly add that command to the preamble? I don't recall having this issue before and find no reference to it in my saved threads of the mail list. A MWE is attached: .lyx, .pdf, and .bib. I look forward to learning what I've done incorrectly (or neglected to do at all.) You have a wrong option in the document->settings->bibliography: the image was missing ... -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: Bibliography not in ToC
Am 14.12.21 um 19:58 schrieb Rich Shepard via lyx-users:
Running LyX-2.3.6.1 on Slackware64-14.2.
The bibliography settings at the end of the paper indicate the
bibliography
should be added to the end of the Table of Contents. It's not. Do I
need to
explicitly add that command to the preamble?
I don't recall having this issue before and find no reference to it in my
saved threads of the mail list.
A MWE is attached: .lyx, .pdf, and .bib. I look forward to learning what
I've done incorrectly (or neglected to do at all.)
You have a wrong option in the document->settings->bibliography:
Delete the mergedate=compact. However, using the natbib mode
is something from the last millenium ... you should simply use
the authoryear style of biblatex.
If you open the controll window in LyX then you see the errors
of the biber run, too!
Btw:
- your format was defined as pdf (pdftex), but it should be pdf (luatex)
- do not use the line
\usepackage{luainputenc}, it is superflous
- do not use \usepackage[T1]{fontenc}, it is only for pdflatex and _not_
xelatex/lualatex
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Re: MWE showing one of my indexing problems
Am 10.12.21 um 20:06 schrieb Steve Litt via lyx-users:
Herbert Voss said on Fri, 10 Dec 2021 10:14:29 +0100
Steve Litt via lyx-users schrieb:
Attached please find mwe.lyx and mwe.pdf, which was created by
mwe.lyx. This document is standard book class, sized 6 inches high
by 4 inches wide to fit on reasonably sized mobile devices. The
symptom is that index item "Incremental/Differential Learning" spans
about 35 pages, but there's no index begin tag on the first of those
pages, or anywhere near it. You can read the rest of the symptom
description as chapter 1 of the actual document.
I could have refined it further, but after 3 days I'm so punch drunk
I was afraid I'd make the symptom vanish and have to start all over
again, so if some of you could take a look at it, I'd be very
grateful.
do not write an \index command into a sectioning command. Use it after
such a command. See image
Herbert
Confirmed! Thank you Herbert.
I moved the two index opening commands from the end of the sectioning
command to the start of the standard text that follows the sectioning
command, which eliminated the symptom.
My one remaining worry is that, with bad luck and just the wrong
vertical alignment, the section header might fall at the bottom of the
page *before* the page pointed to by the index entry. But so far, I
seem to be having the opposite problem (section header falling *after*
the page pointed to by the index entry, but only with my compile
script, not with eyeballs) so I have to do more research.
The "real" problem was your \nameref command more than 20
pages before. It refers to the \chapter with the label _and_ the
\index{...|(}
command. So you get the pagenumber of the \nameref as a start,
because executes the titel _with_ the \index command.
You can also use the optional argument for special chapter headings if
you have some \nameref pointing to it:
\chapter[For TOC and nameref]{For normal title and
index\label{foo}\index{...|(}}
Then ech refence should point to the title and not the following text.
Herbert
Thanks for your help on this. It solved the worst of my two index
problems.
SteveT
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Re: MWE showing one of my indexing problems
Steve Litt via lyx-users schrieb: > Attached please find mwe.lyx and mwe.pdf, which was created by mwe.lyx. > This document is standard book class, sized 6 inches high by 4 inches > wide to fit on reasonably sized mobile devices. The symptom is that > index item "Incremental/Differential Learning" spans about 35 pages, > but there's no index begin tag on the first of those pages, or anywhere > near it. You can read the rest of the symptom description as chapter 1 > of the actual document. > > I could have refined it further, but after 3 days I'm so punch drunk > I was afraid I'd make the symptom vanish and have to start all over > again, so if some of you could take a look at it, I'd be very grateful. do not write an \index command into a sectioning command. Use it after such a command. See image Herbert > Thanks, > > SteveT > > Steve Litt > Spring 2021 featured book: Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful > Technologist > http://www.troubleshooters.com/techniques > -- > lyx-users mailing list > lyx-users@lists.lyx.org > http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users > -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: Glitch (bug?) in 2.3.6.1
Am 09.12.21 um 21:35 schrieb Paul A. Rubin via lyx-users: On 12/9/21 3:27 PM, Rich Shepard via lyx-users wrote: I've encountered unusual behavior when compiling the document using pdflatex. When I've used an ERT within a float figure's caption lyx highlights the string containing that ERT and pops up an error box which tells me only that there's an error. Closing that error box and repeating the command, ctrl-x/ctrl-h, presents the message that the pdf files's been created in the status bar. In one figure caption I had '\mu' in an ERT box, in the other caption it is '\textdegree' in the box. Since I don't subscribe to the dev's mail list I'm posting this here. It might be a bug, or the error message box and highlighting might be only a distracting glitch. Rich I can't reproduce this (with 2.3.6.1). Putting \textdegree in ERT in the float caption works fine. Putting \mu in ERT predictably does not, but putting it in a math environment works, as does putting $\mu$ in ERT. \mu is onyl available in math: start inline mathmode and insert \mu There is also a \textmu for text mode. Herbert -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: Wrapping a long URL when in a URL environment
Am 09.12.21 um 18:31 schrieb Rich Shepard via lyx-users:
In a URL environment the line extends past the right text area margin.
Can I
use the regular ERT \- within the URL string to split it, or is there an
environment-specific way to so this?
\usepackage{xurl}
Herbert
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Re: Graphic file formats
Am 08.12.21 um 18:09 schrieb Rich Shepard via lyx-users: On Wed, 8 Dec 2021, Steve Litt wrote: That's a lot of time. How many words is this book? It's not the document's size, but the PDF image's size. I've attached a copy of the 3.7M file so everyone can play with loading it in a document. Here: https://hvoss.org/document2.pdf is a pdf with your image, the first one as pdf the second one as png: -rw-r--r-- 1 voss wheel 108688 9 Dez 14:49 all-discharge-plots-1.png -rw-r--r--@ 1 voss wheel 3704503 9 Dez 14:45 all-discharge-plots.pdf the ong has only 108kB and was converted with pdftocairo -png ... Herbert -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
