Re: Bibtex and apalike [off-topic]
On Friday 22 June 2001 21:31, Rodrigo Esteves de Lima-Lopes wrote: Hi I et. al means and others (in latin), and it is used in some bibliographich styles to supress authors names, when they are more than 3. One reason for any academic with a family name starting late in the alphabet to change it to something like Aardvark! Robin
Re: Bibtex and apalike [off-topic]
On Friday 22 June 2001 21:31, Rodrigo Esteves de Lima-Lopes wrote: Hi I et. al means and others (in latin), and it is used in some bibliographich styles to supress authors names, when they are more than 3. One reason for any academic with a family name starting late in the alphabet to change it to something like Aardvark! Robin
Re: Bibtex and apalike [off-topic]
On Friday 22 June 2001 21:31, Rodrigo Esteves de Lima-Lopes wrote: > Hi > > I et. al means and others (in latin), and it is used in some > bibliographich styles to supress authors names, when they are more than 3. One reason for any academic with a family name starting late in the alphabet to change it to something like "Aardvark"! Robin
Re: Bibtex and apalike
On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 01:44:31PM +0200, Lele Gaifax wrote:
Evidently you wrote the entire name (in your case John Doe) in the
Author field. Instead, you should have entered Doe, John there. In
no way bibtex (nor pybliographic, for that matter) can correctly guess
the Name and Surname separation, and it needs some help from the
writer. So the author name should be written as `Surname, Name'. This
is a bibtex imposition, not a Pybliographic bug; it puts braces around
multiple names, to keep them in a single unit: for example, the name
Anna Maria Filiberta should be written as `Filiberta, Anna Maria',
that becomes Filiberta, {Anna Maria} in the .bib file.
This is wront: bibtex accepts both 'Surname, Name' and 'Name Surname'.
Re: Bibtex and apalike
On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 01:44:31PM +0200, Lele Gaifax wrote:
Evidently you wrote the entire name (in your case John Doe) in the
Author field. Instead, you should have entered Doe, John there. In
no way bibtex (nor pybliographic, for that matter) can correctly guess
the Name and Surname separation, and it needs some help from the
writer. So the author name should be written as `Surname, Name'. This
is a bibtex imposition, not a Pybliographic bug; it puts braces around
multiple names, to keep them in a single unit: for example, the name
Anna Maria Filiberta should be written as `Filiberta, Anna Maria',
that becomes Filiberta, {Anna Maria} in the .bib file.
This is wront: bibtex accepts both 'Surname, Name' and 'Name Surname'.
Re: Bibtex and apalike
On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 01:44:31PM +0200, Lele Gaifax wrote:
> Evidently you wrote the entire name (in your case "John Doe") in the
> "Author" field. Instead, you should have entered "Doe, John" there. In
> no way bibtex (nor pybliographic, for that matter) can correctly guess
> the "Name" and "Surname" separation, and it needs some help from the
> writer. So the author name should be written as `Surname, Name'. This
> is a bibtex imposition, not a Pybliographic bug; it puts braces around
> "multiple" names, to keep them in a single unit: for example, the name
> "Anna Maria Filiberta" should be written as `Filiberta, Anna Maria',
> that becomes "Filiberta, {Anna Maria}" in the .bib file.
This is wront: bibtex accepts both 'Surname, Name' and 'Name Surname'.
Re: Bibtex and apalike
José == José Ernesto Jardim [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
José 2) It uses the entire author's name in the text. For example,
José @Article{john99, Author = {{John Doe}}, Title = {A},
José institution = {BB}, year = 2000, }
José is printed on the text like (John Doe, 2000) instead of (Doe,
José 2000)
Why do you have this extra pair of braces for the Author? It
effectively prevents bibtex from processing the name correctly.
JMarc
Re: Bibtex and apalike
On Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:17:05 +0100, =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9?= Ernesto Jardim
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Why do you have this extra pair of braces for the Author? It
effectively prevents bibtex from processing the name correctly.
JMarc
ej Hi
ej I'm using Pybliographic to build the bibtex file and it seems
ej that it includes this extra pair of braces.
ej I've corrected it and it works fine now!
ej Thanks
ej EJ
Evidently you wrote the entire name (in your case John Doe) in the
Author field. Instead, you should have entered Doe, John there. In
no way bibtex (nor pybliographic, for that matter) can correctly guess
the Name and Surname separation, and it needs some help from the
writer. So the author name should be written as `Surname, Name'. This
is a bibtex imposition, not a Pybliographic bug; it puts braces around
multiple names, to keep them in a single unit: for example, the name
Anna Maria Filiberta should be written as `Filiberta, Anna Maria',
that becomes Filiberta, {Anna Maria} in the .bib file.
When you have multiple authors, you should put them in separated lines
in the Author field. Then Pybliographic will write the expected
`Filiberta, {Anna Maria} and Doe, John' in the .bib file. Later, the
.bst style will produce something like Filiberta e Doe~1987 as
the label LaTeX puts in the bibliography (note the italian e as
conjuction) .
I'm slowly learning some bibtex black art, just to help my girlfriend
produce her thesis. Her prof was very precise on the layout she wants
in the bibliography, and after trying hundreds of .bst styles, I ended
up digging in the inside of the most similar, adapting it to the
specifications. Given the modern scripting engines, one may only
wonder why the bibtex machinery is so complex (and pourly documented,
I must say)!!
bye, lele.
--
nickname: Lele Gaifax | Quando vivro' di quello che ho pensato ieri
real: Emanuele Gaifas | comincero' ad aver paura di chi mi copia.
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Fortunato Depero, 1929.
Re: Bibtex and apalike
José == José Ernesto Jardim [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
José 2) It uses the entire author's name in the text. For example,
José @Article{john99, Author = {{John Doe}}, Title = {A},
José institution = {BB}, year = 2000, }
José is printed on the text like (John Doe, 2000) instead of (Doe,
José 2000)
Why do you have this extra pair of braces for the Author? It
effectively prevents bibtex from processing the name correctly.
JMarc
Re: Bibtex and apalike
On Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:17:05 +0100, =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9?= Ernesto Jardim
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Why do you have this extra pair of braces for the Author? It
effectively prevents bibtex from processing the name correctly.
JMarc
ej Hi
ej I'm using Pybliographic to build the bibtex file and it seems
ej that it includes this extra pair of braces.
ej I've corrected it and it works fine now!
ej Thanks
ej EJ
Evidently you wrote the entire name (in your case John Doe) in the
Author field. Instead, you should have entered Doe, John there. In
no way bibtex (nor pybliographic, for that matter) can correctly guess
the Name and Surname separation, and it needs some help from the
writer. So the author name should be written as `Surname, Name'. This
is a bibtex imposition, not a Pybliographic bug; it puts braces around
multiple names, to keep them in a single unit: for example, the name
Anna Maria Filiberta should be written as `Filiberta, Anna Maria',
that becomes Filiberta, {Anna Maria} in the .bib file.
When you have multiple authors, you should put them in separated lines
in the Author field. Then Pybliographic will write the expected
`Filiberta, {Anna Maria} and Doe, John' in the .bib file. Later, the
.bst style will produce something like Filiberta e Doe~1987 as
the label LaTeX puts in the bibliography (note the italian e as
conjuction) .
I'm slowly learning some bibtex black art, just to help my girlfriend
produce her thesis. Her prof was very precise on the layout she wants
in the bibliography, and after trying hundreds of .bst styles, I ended
up digging in the inside of the most similar, adapting it to the
specifications. Given the modern scripting engines, one may only
wonder why the bibtex machinery is so complex (and pourly documented,
I must say)!!
bye, lele.
--
nickname: Lele Gaifax | Quando vivro' di quello che ho pensato ieri
real: Emanuele Gaifas | comincero' ad aver paura di chi mi copia.
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Fortunato Depero, 1929.
Re: Bibtex and apalike
> "José" == José Ernesto Jardim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
José> 2) It uses the entire author's name in the text. For example,
José> @Article{john99, Author = {{John Doe}}, Title = {A},
José> institution = {BB}, year = 2000, }
José> is printed on the text like (John Doe, 2000) instead of (Doe,
José> 2000)
Why do you have this extra pair of braces for the Author? It
effectively prevents bibtex from processing the name correctly.
JMarc
Re: Bibtex and apalike
> On Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:17:05 +0100, =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9?= Ernesto Jardim
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>> Why do you have this extra pair of braces for the Author? It
>> effectively prevents bibtex from processing the name correctly.
>>
>> JMarc
ej> Hi
ej> I'm using Pybliographic to build the bibtex file and it seems
ej> that it includes this extra pair of braces.
ej> I've corrected it and it works fine now!
ej> Thanks
ej> EJ
Evidently you wrote the entire name (in your case "John Doe") in the
"Author" field. Instead, you should have entered "Doe, John" there. In
no way bibtex (nor pybliographic, for that matter) can correctly guess
the "Name" and "Surname" separation, and it needs some help from the
writer. So the author name should be written as `Surname, Name'. This
is a bibtex imposition, not a Pybliographic bug; it puts braces around
"multiple" names, to keep them in a single unit: for example, the name
"Anna Maria Filiberta" should be written as `Filiberta, Anna Maria',
that becomes "Filiberta, {Anna Maria}" in the .bib file.
When you have multiple authors, you should put them in separated lines
in the "Author" field. Then Pybliographic will write the expected
`Filiberta, {Anna Maria} and Doe, John' in the .bib file. Later, the
.bst style will produce something like "Filiberta e Doe~1987" as
the label LaTeX puts in the bibliography (note the italian "e" as
conjuction) .
I'm slowly learning some bibtex black art, just to help my girlfriend
produce her thesis. Her prof was very precise on the layout she wants
in the bibliography, and after trying hundreds of .bst styles, I ended
up digging in the inside of the most similar, adapting it to the
specifications. Given the modern scripting engines, one may only
wonder why the bibtex machinery is so complex (and pourly documented,
I must say)!!
bye, lele.
--
nickname: Lele Gaifax | Quando vivro' di quello che ho pensato ieri
real: Emanuele Gaifas | comincero' ad aver paura di chi mi copia.
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Fortunato Depero, 1929.
Bibtex and apalike
Hi
I'm using bibtex and apalike style to process references. I have two
problems (at least :-)
1) When there are more then 2 authors it doesn't process author et al.
2) It uses the entire author's name in the text. For example,
@Article{john99,
Author = {{John Doe}},
Title = {A},
institution= {BB},
year = 2000,
}
is printed on the text like (John Doe, 2000) instead of (Doe, 2000)
Can someone help me with this ?
Thanks
EJ
ps: I've included in the latex preamble \usepackage{apalike}
Re: Bibtex and apalike
José Ernesto Jardim wrote: I'm using bibtex and apalike style to process references. I have two problems (at least :-) 1) When there are more then 2 authors it doesn't process author et al. what does it than? Herbert -- http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/
Re: Bibtex and apalike
Hi I et. al means and others (in latin), and it is used in some bibliographich styles to supress authors names, when they are more than 3. Apa like will process such abreviation only in the citation, in the body of the text, but not in the bibliography, when all the authors are present. For instance for the citation (Biber et al., 1999: 01) it will print at the bibliography chapter: Biber, D. Conrad, S. and Reppen, R. 1999 Corpus linguistics. London: Cambridge []s lima-lopes R.E. de Lima-Lopes [EMAIL PROTECTED] GNU/Linux Registered User # 182240 On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Herbert Voss wrote: Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 20:04:44 +0200 From: Herbert Voss [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: José Ernesto Jardim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Mailing List LyX [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Bibtex and apalike José Ernesto Jardim wrote: I'm using bibtex and apalike style to process references. I have two problems (at least :-) 1) When there are more then 2 authors it doesn't process author et al. what does it than? Herbert
Re: Bibtex and apalike
Rodrigo Esteves de Lima-Lopes wrote: Hi I et. al means and others (in latin), and it is used in some bibliographich styles to supress authors names, when they are more than 3. Apa like will process such abreviation only in the citation, in the body of the text, but not in the bibliography, when all the authors are present. For instance for the citation (Biber et al., 1999: 01) it will print at the bibliography chapter: Biber, D. Conrad, S. and Reppen, R. 1999 Corpus linguistics. London: Cambridge []s lima-lopes R.E. de Lima-Lopes [EMAIL PROTECTED] GNU/Linux Registered User # 182240 On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Herbert Voss wrote: Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 20:04:44 +0200 From: Herbert Voss [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: José Ernesto Jardim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Mailing List LyX [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Bibtex and apalike José Ernesto Jardim wrote: I'm using bibtex and apalike style to process references. I have two problems (at least :-) 1) When there are more then 2 authors it doesn't process author et al. what does it than? Herbert Yes I know. The problem is that, having the entry you're referring, I'm getting (Biber, D. Conrad, S. and Reppen, R., 1999). EJ
Bibtex and apalike
Hi
I'm using bibtex and apalike style to process references. I have two
problems (at least :-)
1) When there are more then 2 authors it doesn't process author et al.
2) It uses the entire author's name in the text. For example,
@Article{john99,
Author = {{John Doe}},
Title = {A},
institution= {BB},
year = 2000,
}
is printed on the text like (John Doe, 2000) instead of (Doe, 2000)
Can someone help me with this ?
Thanks
EJ
ps: I've included in the latex preamble \usepackage{apalike}
Re: Bibtex and apalike
José Ernesto Jardim wrote: I'm using bibtex and apalike style to process references. I have two problems (at least :-) 1) When there are more then 2 authors it doesn't process author et al. what does it than? Herbert -- http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/
Re: Bibtex and apalike
Hi I et. al means and others (in latin), and it is used in some bibliographich styles to supress authors names, when they are more than 3. Apa like will process such abreviation only in the citation, in the body of the text, but not in the bibliography, when all the authors are present. For instance for the citation (Biber et al., 1999: 01) it will print at the bibliography chapter: Biber, D. Conrad, S. and Reppen, R. 1999 Corpus linguistics. London: Cambridge []s lima-lopes R.E. de Lima-Lopes [EMAIL PROTECTED] GNU/Linux Registered User # 182240 On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Herbert Voss wrote: Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 20:04:44 +0200 From: Herbert Voss [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: José Ernesto Jardim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Mailing List LyX [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Bibtex and apalike José Ernesto Jardim wrote: I'm using bibtex and apalike style to process references. I have two problems (at least :-) 1) When there are more then 2 authors it doesn't process author et al. what does it than? Herbert
Re: Bibtex and apalike
Rodrigo Esteves de Lima-Lopes wrote: Hi I et. al means and others (in latin), and it is used in some bibliographich styles to supress authors names, when they are more than 3. Apa like will process such abreviation only in the citation, in the body of the text, but not in the bibliography, when all the authors are present. For instance for the citation (Biber et al., 1999: 01) it will print at the bibliography chapter: Biber, D. Conrad, S. and Reppen, R. 1999 Corpus linguistics. London: Cambridge []s lima-lopes R.E. de Lima-Lopes [EMAIL PROTECTED] GNU/Linux Registered User # 182240 On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Herbert Voss wrote: Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 20:04:44 +0200 From: Herbert Voss [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: José Ernesto Jardim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Mailing List LyX [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Bibtex and apalike José Ernesto Jardim wrote: I'm using bibtex and apalike style to process references. I have two problems (at least :-) 1) When there are more then 2 authors it doesn't process author et al. what does it than? Herbert Yes I know. The problem is that, having the entry you're referring, I'm getting (Biber, D. Conrad, S. and Reppen, R., 1999). EJ
Bibtex and apalike
Hi
I'm using bibtex and apalike style to process references. I have two
problems (at least :-)
1) When there are more then 2 authors it doesn't process "author et al."
2) It uses the entire author's name in the text. For example,
@Article{john99,
Author = {{John Doe}},
Title = {A},
institution= {BB},
year = 2000,
}
is printed on the text like (John Doe, 2000) instead of (Doe, 2000)
Can someone help me with this ?
Thanks
EJ
ps: I've included in the latex preamble \usepackage{apalike}
Re: Bibtex and apalike
José Ernesto Jardim wrote: > > I'm using bibtex and apalike style to process references. I have two > problems (at least :-) > > 1) When there are more then 2 authors it doesn't process "author et al." what does it than? Herbert -- http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/
Re: Bibtex and apalike
Hi I et. al means and others (in latin), and it is used in some bibliographich styles to supress authors names, when they are more than 3. Apa like will process such abreviation only in the citation, in the body of the text, but not in the bibliography, when all the authors are present. For instance for the citation (Biber et al., 1999: 01) it will print at the bibliography chapter: Biber, D. Conrad, S. and Reppen, R. 1999 Corpus linguistics. London: Cambridge []s lima-lopes R.E. de Lima-Lopes [EMAIL PROTECTED] GNU/Linux Registered User # 182240 On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Herbert Voss wrote: > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 20:04:44 +0200 > From: Herbert Voss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: José Ernesto Jardim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: Mailing List LyX <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Bibtex and apalike > > José Ernesto Jardim wrote: > > > > I'm using bibtex and apalike style to process references. I have two > > problems (at least :-) > > > > 1) When there are more then 2 authors it doesn't process "author et al." > > what does it than? > > Herbert > >
Re: Bibtex and apalike
Rodrigo Esteves de Lima-Lopes wrote: > Hi > > I et. al means and others (in latin), and it is used in some > bibliographich styles to supress authors names, when they are more than 3. > > Apa like will process such abreviation only in the citation, in the body > of the text, but not in the bibliography, when all the authors are > present. > > For instance for the citation (Biber et al., 1999: 01) it will print at > the bibliography chapter: > > Biber, D. Conrad, S. and Reppen, R. 1999 Corpus > linguistics. London: Cambridge > > []s > lima-lopes > > R.E. de Lima-Lopes > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > GNU/Linux Registered User # 182240 > > On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Herbert Voss wrote: > > > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 20:04:44 +0200 > > From: Herbert Voss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: José Ernesto Jardim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: Mailing List LyX <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: Bibtex and apalike > > > > José Ernesto Jardim wrote: > > > > > > I'm using bibtex and apalike style to process references. I have two > > > problems (at least :-) > > > > > > 1) When there are more then 2 authors it doesn't process "author et al." > > > > what does it than? > > > > Herbert > > > > Yes I know. The problem is that, having the entry you're referring, I'm getting (Biber, D. Conrad, S. and Reppen, R., 1999). EJ
