Re: Footnote on the next page

2001-07-13 Thread Dekel Tsur

On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 07:31:03PM +0200, Detlev Humann wrote:
 Maybe there is a hidden package for changing the footnote indentation?
 Thanks for answering steadily!

\usepackage[marginal]{footmisc}



Re: Footnote on the next page

2001-07-13 Thread Herbert Voss

Dekel Tsur wrote:
 
 On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 07:31:03PM +0200, Detlev Humann wrote:
  Maybe there is a hidden package for changing the footnote indentation?
  Thanks for answering steadily!
 
 \usepackage[marginal]{footmisc}

this looks ugly ...

Herbert


-- 
http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/





Flush footnote indentation (was: Footnote on the next page)

2001-07-13 Thread Detlev Humann



Cheers! Herbert got the solution! For all Lyx users 
who want their footnote indentation to look like this:


text
--
1 bla bla bla bla bla bla
 bla bla bla.
2 bla.



For Lyx 1.1.5 (I tested) write in latex preamble: 


\newlength{\myFootnoteWidth}\setlength{\myFootnoteWidth}{\columnwidth}\newlength{\myFootnoteLabel}\setlength{\myFootnoteLabel}{1.2em} 
% you canchange the number if you 
like\addtolength{\myFootnoteWidth}{-\myFootnoteLabel}\renewcommand{\@makefntext}[1]{% 
\noindent\makebox[\myFootnoteLabel][r]{\@makefnmark\ }% 
\parbox[t]{\myFootnoteWidth}{#1}%}


For Lyx 1.1.6 (AFAIK Herbert tested) it should be enough to write in latex 
preamble:

\newlength{\myFootnoteLabel}\setlength{\myFootnoteLabel}{1.2em} % you 
canchange the number if you like\renewcommand{\@makefntext}[1]{ 
% \noindent\makebox[\myFootnoteLabel][r]{\@makefnmark\ }% 
\parbox{\columnwidth -\myFootnoteLabel}{#1}%}

And the former problem that a footnote appeared on the next pageis 
solved, too.
Additionally, AFAIK, footnotes aren't split anymore.
Maybe Herbert takes this solution on his website?! :-)
Thanks again!
Detlev 



Re: Footnote on the next page

2001-07-13 Thread Dekel Tsur

On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 07:31:03PM +0200, Detlev Humann wrote:
 Maybe there is a hidden package for changing the footnote indentation?
 Thanks for answering steadily!

\usepackage[marginal]{footmisc}



Re: Footnote on the next page

2001-07-13 Thread Herbert Voss

Dekel Tsur wrote:
 
 On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 07:31:03PM +0200, Detlev Humann wrote:
  Maybe there is a hidden package for changing the footnote indentation?
  Thanks for answering steadily!
 
 \usepackage[marginal]{footmisc}

this looks ugly ...

Herbert


-- 
http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/





Flush footnote indentation (was: Footnote on the next page)

2001-07-13 Thread Detlev Humann



Cheers! Herbert got the solution! For all Lyx users 
who want their footnote indentation to look like this:


text
--
1 bla bla bla bla bla bla
 bla bla bla.
2 bla.



For Lyx 1.1.5 (I tested) write in latex preamble: 


\newlength{\myFootnoteWidth}\setlength{\myFootnoteWidth}{\columnwidth}\newlength{\myFootnoteLabel}\setlength{\myFootnoteLabel}{1.2em} 
% you canchange the number if you 
like\addtolength{\myFootnoteWidth}{-\myFootnoteLabel}\renewcommand{\@makefntext}[1]{% 
\noindent\makebox[\myFootnoteLabel][r]{\@makefnmark\ }% 
\parbox[t]{\myFootnoteWidth}{#1}%}


For Lyx 1.1.6 (AFAIK Herbert tested) it should be enough to write in latex 
preamble:

\newlength{\myFootnoteLabel}\setlength{\myFootnoteLabel}{1.2em} % you 
canchange the number if you like\renewcommand{\@makefntext}[1]{ 
% \noindent\makebox[\myFootnoteLabel][r]{\@makefnmark\ }% 
\parbox{\columnwidth -\myFootnoteLabel}{#1}%}

And the former problem that a footnote appeared on the next pageis 
solved, too.
Additionally, AFAIK, footnotes aren't split anymore.
Maybe Herbert takes this solution on his website?! :-)
Thanks again!
Detlev 



Re: Footnote on the next page

2001-07-13 Thread Dekel Tsur

On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 07:31:03PM +0200, Detlev Humann wrote:
> Maybe there is a hidden package for changing the footnote indentation?
> Thanks for answering steadily!

\usepackage[marginal]{footmisc}



Re: Footnote on the next page

2001-07-13 Thread Herbert Voss

Dekel Tsur wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 07:31:03PM +0200, Detlev Humann wrote:
> > Maybe there is a hidden package for changing the footnote indentation?
> > Thanks for answering steadily!
> 
> \usepackage[marginal]{footmisc}

this looks ugly ...

Herbert


-- 
http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/





Flush footnote indentation (was: Footnote on the next page)

2001-07-13 Thread Detlev Humann



Cheers! Herbert got the solution! For all Lyx users 
who want their footnote indentation to look like this:
 

text
--
1 bla bla bla bla bla bla
   bla bla bla.
2 bla.
 
 
 
For Lyx 1.1.5 (I tested) write in latex preamble:  

 
\newlength{\myFootnoteWidth}\setlength{\myFootnoteWidth}{\columnwidth}\newlength{\myFootnoteLabel}\setlength{\myFootnoteLabel}{1.2em} 
% you can change the number if you 
like\addtolength{\myFootnoteWidth}{-\myFootnoteLabel}\renewcommand{\@makefntext}[1]{%  
\noindent\makebox[\myFootnoteLabel][r]{\@makefnmark\ }%  
\parbox[t]{\myFootnoteWidth}{#1}%}
 
 
For Lyx 1.1.6 (AFAIK Herbert tested) it should be enough to write in latex 
preamble:
 
\newlength{\myFootnoteLabel}\setlength{\myFootnoteLabel}{1.2em} % you 
can change the number if you like\renewcommand{\@makefntext}[1]{ 
%  \noindent\makebox[\myFootnoteLabel][r]{\@makefnmark\ }%  
\parbox{\columnwidth -\myFootnoteLabel}{#1}%}
 
And the former problem that a footnote appeared on the next page is 
solved, too.
Additionally, AFAIK, footnotes aren't split anymore.
Maybe Herbert takes this solution on his website?! :-)
Thanks again!
Detlev    
 


Re: Footnote on the next page

2001-07-12 Thread Herbert Voss

Detlev Humann wrote:
 
   Detlev Humann wrote:
  
   (I know that Lyx/Latex sometimes splits a footnote over two pages,
   which isn´t very nice but acceptable. However, this is not my problem
   as I have interfootnotelinepenalty=1 in Latex preamble. The
   strange thing in my case is that it doesn´t make a difference if I
   comment it out or if I don´t)
  
  Herbert Voss wrote:
 
  if you have the correct
  \interfootnotelinepenalty=1
 
  in preamble send a minimal lay-file, which shows the
  behaviour.

delte the whole latex preamble and all should work.

Herbert


-- 
http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/



Re: Footnote on the next page

2001-07-12 Thread Detlev Humann

Detlev Humann wrote:
   
(I know that Lyx/Latex sometimes splits a footnote over two pages,
which isn´t very nice but acceptable. However, this is not my
problem
as I have interfootnotelinepenalty=1 in Latex preamble. The
strange thing in my case is that it doesn´t make a difference if I
comment it out or if I don´t)
   
   Herbert Voss wrote:
  
   if you have the correct
   \interfootnotelinepenalty=1
  
   in preamble send a minimal lay-file, which shows the
   behaviour.

 delte the whole latex preamble and all should work.

 Herbert


Well, that seems to be a radical solution. (I already tried that to find out
the reason for the behaviour.)
If I delete the whole preamble then my redefined footnote indentation gets
lost and I get a split footnote... :-(
Is there no way to save my settings?
(In the worst case I could accept a split footnote but I would like to
keep
the indentation.)
Hope that I don't expect too much from my appreciated Lyx/Latex ;-)

Detlev






Re: Footnote on the next page

2001-07-12 Thread Herbert Voss

Detlev Humann wrote:
 
 
  delte the whole latex preamble and all should work.
 
 Well, that seems to be a radical solution. (I already tried that to find out
 the reason for the behaviour.)
 If I delete the whole preamble then my redefined footnote indentation gets
 lost and I get a split footnote... :-(
 Is there no way to save my settings?
 (In the worst case I could accept a split footnote but I would like to
 keep
 the indentation.)
 Hope that I don't expect too much from my appreciated Lyx/Latex ;-)

\interfootnotelinepenalty=1

is possible

it was your redefinition makefntext

HErbert

-- 
http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/



Re: Footnote on the next page

2001-07-12 Thread Detlev Humann

 \interfootnotelinepenalty=1

 is possible

 it was your redefinition makefntext

 HErbert


Sorry for one more email:
Did I get you right that there is only one alternative (((ok, latinists know
that there is always one alternative))):
Either my indentation and footnotes appear sometimes misplaced on the next
page - or default indentation and footnotes are correctly placed (with) -
and nothing else?
Maybe there is a hidden package for changing the footnote indentation?
Thanks for answering steadily!

Detlev

PS: If there is no hope for my indentation - why does Lyx/Latex take into
consideration the footnote indentation when placing the footnotes? Is there
no command to prevent misplacing? I can't imagine that the errorfree Latex
isn´t able to cope with such a little problem...(I'm just hallucinating...)




Re: Footnote on the next page

2001-07-12 Thread Herbert Voss

Detlev Humann wrote:
 
   Detlev Humann wrote:
  
   (I know that Lyx/Latex sometimes splits a footnote over two pages,
   which isn´t very nice but acceptable. However, this is not my problem
   as I have interfootnotelinepenalty=1 in Latex preamble. The
   strange thing in my case is that it doesn´t make a difference if I
   comment it out or if I don´t)
  
  Herbert Voss wrote:
 
  if you have the correct
  \interfootnotelinepenalty=1
 
  in preamble send a minimal lay-file, which shows the
  behaviour.

delte the whole latex preamble and all should work.

Herbert


-- 
http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/



Re: Footnote on the next page

2001-07-12 Thread Detlev Humann

Detlev Humann wrote:
   
(I know that Lyx/Latex sometimes splits a footnote over two pages,
which isn´t very nice but acceptable. However, this is not my
problem
as I have interfootnotelinepenalty=1 in Latex preamble. The
strange thing in my case is that it doesn´t make a difference if I
comment it out or if I don´t)
   
   Herbert Voss wrote:
  
   if you have the correct
   \interfootnotelinepenalty=1
  
   in preamble send a minimal lay-file, which shows the
   behaviour.

 delte the whole latex preamble and all should work.

 Herbert


Well, that seems to be a radical solution. (I already tried that to find out
the reason for the behaviour.)
If I delete the whole preamble then my redefined footnote indentation gets
lost and I get a split footnote... :-(
Is there no way to save my settings?
(In the worst case I could accept a split footnote but I would like to
keep
the indentation.)
Hope that I don't expect too much from my appreciated Lyx/Latex ;-)

Detlev






Re: Footnote on the next page

2001-07-12 Thread Herbert Voss

Detlev Humann wrote:
 
 
  delte the whole latex preamble and all should work.
 
 Well, that seems to be a radical solution. (I already tried that to find out
 the reason for the behaviour.)
 If I delete the whole preamble then my redefined footnote indentation gets
 lost and I get a split footnote... :-(
 Is there no way to save my settings?
 (In the worst case I could accept a split footnote but I would like to
 keep
 the indentation.)
 Hope that I don't expect too much from my appreciated Lyx/Latex ;-)

\interfootnotelinepenalty=1

is possible

it was your redefinition makefntext

HErbert

-- 
http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/



Re: Footnote on the next page

2001-07-12 Thread Detlev Humann

 \interfootnotelinepenalty=1

 is possible

 it was your redefinition makefntext

 HErbert


Sorry for one more email:
Did I get you right that there is only one alternative (((ok, latinists know
that there is always one alternative))):
Either my indentation and footnotes appear sometimes misplaced on the next
page - or default indentation and footnotes are correctly placed (with) -
and nothing else?
Maybe there is a hidden package for changing the footnote indentation?
Thanks for answering steadily!

Detlev

PS: If there is no hope for my indentation - why does Lyx/Latex take into
consideration the footnote indentation when placing the footnotes? Is there
no command to prevent misplacing? I can't imagine that the errorfree Latex
isn´t able to cope with such a little problem...(I'm just hallucinating...)




Re: Footnote on the next page

2001-07-12 Thread Herbert Voss

Detlev Humann wrote:
> 
> > > Detlev Humann wrote:
> > >
> > > (I know that Lyx/Latex sometimes splits a footnote over two pages,
> > > which isn´t very nice but acceptable. However, this is not my problem
> > > as I have interfootnotelinepenalty=1 in Latex preamble. The
> > > strange thing in my case is that it doesn´t make a difference if I
> > > comment it out or if I don´t)
> > >
> > Herbert Voss wrote:
> >
> > if you have the correct
> > \interfootnotelinepenalty=1
> >
> > in preamble send a minimal lay-file, which shows the
> > behaviour.

delte the whole latex preamble and all should work.

Herbert


-- 
http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/



Re: Footnote on the next page

2001-07-12 Thread Detlev Humann

> > > > Detlev Humann wrote:
> > > >
> > > > (I know that Lyx/Latex sometimes splits a footnote over two pages,
> > > > which isn´t very nice but acceptable. However, this is not my
problem
> > > > as I have interfootnotelinepenalty=1 in Latex preamble. The
> > > > strange thing in my case is that it doesn´t make a difference if I
> > > > comment it out or if I don´t)
> > > >
> > > Herbert Voss wrote:
> > >
> > > if you have the correct
> > > \interfootnotelinepenalty=1
> > >
> > > in preamble send a minimal lay-file, which shows the
> > > behaviour.
>
> delte the whole latex preamble and all should work.
>
> Herbert
>
>
Well, that seems to be a radical solution. (I already tried that to find out
the reason for the behaviour.)
If I delete the whole preamble then my redefined footnote indentation gets
lost and I get a split footnote... :-(
Is there no way to save my settings?
(In the "worst case" I could accept a split footnote but I would like to
keep
the indentation.)
Hope that I don't expect too much from "my" appreciated Lyx/Latex ;-)

Detlev






Re: Footnote on the next page

2001-07-12 Thread Herbert Voss

Detlev Humann wrote:
> 
> >
> > delte the whole latex preamble and all should work.
> >
> Well, that seems to be a radical solution. (I already tried that to find out
> the reason for the behaviour.)
> If I delete the whole preamble then my redefined footnote indentation gets
> lost and I get a split footnote... :-(
> Is there no way to save my settings?
> (In the "worst case" I could accept a split footnote but I would like to
> keep
> the indentation.)
> Hope that I don't expect too much from "my" appreciated Lyx/Latex ;-)

\interfootnotelinepenalty=1

is possible

it was your redefinition makefntext

HErbert

-- 
http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/



Re: Footnote on the next page

2001-07-12 Thread Detlev Humann

> \interfootnotelinepenalty=1
>
> is possible
>
> it was your redefinition makefntext
>
> HErbert
>

Sorry for one more email:
Did I get you right that there is only one alternative (((ok, latinists know
that there is always one alternative))):
Either my indentation and footnotes appear sometimes misplaced on the next
page - or default indentation and footnotes are correctly placed (with) -
and nothing else?
Maybe there is a hidden package for changing the footnote indentation?
Thanks for answering steadily!

Detlev

PS: If there is no "hope for my indentation" - why does Lyx/Latex take into
consideration the footnote indentation when placing the footnotes? Is there
no command to prevent misplacing? I can't imagine that the errorfree Latex
isn´t able to cope with such a little problem...(I'm just hallucinating...)




Footnote on the next page

2001-07-11 Thread Detlev Humann



Hi!
My problem is that Lyx/Latexputs the footnote 
mark(=number) correctly in the text of one page, but the footnote text (with 
correct footnote number of course) appears on the bottom of 
the_next_page.
(I know that Lyx/Latex sometimes splits a footnote 
over two pages, which isn´tvery nice but acceptable. However, this is not 
my problem as I have interfootnotelinepenalty=1 in Latex preamble. The 
strange thing in my case is that it doesn´t make a difference if I comment it 
out or if I don´t)
Therefore myquestion is: How can I prevent 
this well known"M$-Word-Feature"in my Lyx/Latex document? I´d like 
to have footnote mark and footnote text on the_same_page.
Thanks in advance!
Detlev





Re: Footnote on the next page

2001-07-11 Thread Herbert Voss

 Detlev Humann wrote:
 
 (I know that Lyx/Latex sometimes splits a footnote over two pages,
 which isn´t very nice but acceptable. However, this is not my problem
 as I have interfootnotelinepenalty=1 in Latex preamble. The
 strange thing in my case is that it doesn´t make a difference if I
 comment it out or if I don´t)

if you have the correct
\interfootnotelinepenalty=1

in preamble send a minimal lay-file, which shows the
behaviour.

Herbert


-- 
http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/




Footnote on the next page

2001-07-11 Thread Detlev Humann



Hi!
My problem is that Lyx/Latexputs the footnote 
mark(=number) correctly in the text of one page, but the footnote text (with 
correct footnote number of course) appears on the bottom of 
the_next_page.
(I know that Lyx/Latex sometimes splits a footnote 
over two pages, which isn´tvery nice but acceptable. However, this is not 
my problem as I have interfootnotelinepenalty=1 in Latex preamble. The 
strange thing in my case is that it doesn´t make a difference if I comment it 
out or if I don´t)
Therefore myquestion is: How can I prevent 
this well known"M$-Word-Feature"in my Lyx/Latex document? I´d like 
to have footnote mark and footnote text on the_same_page.
Thanks in advance!
Detlev





Re: Footnote on the next page

2001-07-11 Thread Herbert Voss

 Detlev Humann wrote:
 
 (I know that Lyx/Latex sometimes splits a footnote over two pages,
 which isn´t very nice but acceptable. However, this is not my problem
 as I have interfootnotelinepenalty=1 in Latex preamble. The
 strange thing in my case is that it doesn´t make a difference if I
 comment it out or if I don´t)

if you have the correct
\interfootnotelinepenalty=1

in preamble send a minimal lay-file, which shows the
behaviour.

Herbert


-- 
http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/




Footnote on the next page

2001-07-11 Thread Detlev Humann



Hi!
My problem is that Lyx/Latex puts the footnote 
mark(=number) correctly in the text of one page, but the footnote text (with 
correct footnote number of course) appears on the bottom of 
the_next_page.
(I know that Lyx/Latex sometimes splits a footnote 
over two pages, which isn´t very nice but acceptable. However, this is not 
my problem as I have interfootnotelinepenalty=1 in Latex preamble. The 
strange thing in my case is that it doesn´t make a difference if I comment it 
out or if I don´t)
Therefore my question is: How can I prevent 
this well known "M$-Word-Feature" in my Lyx/Latex document? I´d like 
to have footnote mark and footnote text on the_same_page.
Thanks in advance!
Detlev
 
 
 


Re: Footnote on the next page

2001-07-11 Thread Herbert Voss

> Detlev Humann wrote:
> 
> (I know that Lyx/Latex sometimes splits a footnote over two pages,
> which isn´t very nice but acceptable. However, this is not my problem
> as I have interfootnotelinepenalty=1 in Latex preamble. The
> strange thing in my case is that it doesn´t make a difference if I
> comment it out or if I don´t)

if you have the correct
\interfootnotelinepenalty=1

in preamble send a minimal lay-file, which shows the
behaviour.

Herbert


-- 
http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/