Re: Long Math Equation in Table Column
Rich Shepard rshepard at appl-ecosys.com writes: I do the above, save the document, and look at the dvi preview. It's not rotated but in the upper right corner of the page and off both margins. But ... A-ha! It is rotated in the pdflatex output. It occurred to me that sometimes the dvi preview does not display properly while the compiled output does. I've never dug into the reason for this, but I think that some packages (and rotating may be one of them, if that's the correct name) only work with PDF output. It might be that they use pstricks or equivalent magic. I occasionally forget this and get a disconcerting output with View DVI. Paul
Re: Long Math Equation in Table Column
On Sat, 14 Jan 2012, Paul A. Rubin wrote: I've never dug into the reason for this, Paul, Neither have I because I need it so infrequently. ... but I think that some packages (and rotating may be one of them, if that's the correct name) only work with PDF output. Looks reasonable. I occasionally forget this and get a disconcerting output with View DVI. Obviously, I do, too. Thanks, Rich
Re: Long Math Equation in Table Column
Rich Shepard rshepard at appl-ecosys.com writes: I do the above, save the document, and look at the dvi preview. It's not rotated but in the upper right corner of the page and off both margins. But ... A-ha! It is rotated in the pdflatex output. It occurred to me that sometimes the dvi preview does not display properly while the compiled output does. I've never dug into the reason for this, but I think that some packages (and rotating may be one of them, if that's the correct name) only work with PDF output. It might be that they use pstricks or equivalent magic. I occasionally forget this and get a disconcerting output with View DVI. Paul
Re: Long Math Equation in Table Column
On Sat, 14 Jan 2012, Paul A. Rubin wrote: I've never dug into the reason for this, Paul, Neither have I because I need it so infrequently. ... but I think that some packages (and rotating may be one of them, if that's the correct name) only work with PDF output. Looks reasonable. I occasionally forget this and get a disconcerting output with View DVI. Obviously, I do, too. Thanks, Rich
Re: Long Math Equation in Table Column
Rich Shepard appl-ecosys.com> writes: >I do the above, save the document, and look at the dvi preview. It's not > rotated but in the upper right corner of the page and off both margins. But > ... A-ha! It is rotated in the pdflatex output. > >It occurred to me that sometimes the dvi preview does not display properly > while the compiled output does. > I've never dug into the reason for this, but I think that some packages (and "rotating" may be one of them, if that's the correct name) only work with PDF output. It might be that they use pstricks or equivalent magic. I occasionally forget this and get a disconcerting output with View > DVI. Paul
Re: Long Math Equation in Table Column
On Sat, 14 Jan 2012, Paul A. Rubin wrote: I've never dug into the reason for this, Paul, Neither have I because I need it so infrequently. ... but I think that some packages (and "rotating" may be one of them, if that's the correct name) only work with PDF output. Looks reasonable. I occasionally forget this and get a disconcerting output with View > DVI. Obviously, I do, too. Thanks, Rich
Re: Long Math Equation in Table Column
On Fri, 13 Jan 2012, Enrico Forestieri wrote: Er, ... according to the detailed Math manual, Only inline formulas are allowed inside tables. So, that's that. Nonsense. Simply set the column width or put the formula in a minipage. Perhaps this should be directed to whomever maintains the math help document. That would be a useful replacement for the current statement. Rich
Re: Long Math Equation in Table Column
On Fri, 13 Jan 2012, Enrico Forestieri wrote: Er, ... according to the detailed Math manual, Only inline formulas are allowed inside tables. So, that's that. Nonsense. Simply set the column width or put the formula in a minipage. Perhaps this should be directed to whomever maintains the math help document. That would be a useful replacement for the current statement. Rich
Re: Long Math Equation in Table Column
On Fri, 13 Jan 2012, Enrico Forestieri wrote: Er, ... according to the detailed Math manual, "Only inline formulas are allowed inside tables." So, that's that. Nonsense. Simply set the column width or put the formula in a minipage. Perhaps this should be directed to whomever maintains the math help document. That would be a useful replacement for the current statement. Rich
Long Math Equation in Table Column
I've looked in TLC2 without finding the solution to splitting an inline equation when it's in a table column. I have two long equations in a 2-column table and they make the table much too wide; it extends past the text width on the right. Making the font a smaller size is one solution, but I'd prefer to have the equation span multiple lines within a single table cell. Is there a way to do this? TIA, Rich
Re: Long Math Equation in Table Column
On Thu, 12 Jan 2012, Rich Shepard wrote: Is there a way to do this? I found the rotating package, but I'm having difficulty using it. Perhaps I need to modify the LaTeX output manually? Rich
Re: Long Math Equation in Table Column
On Thu, 12 Jan 2012, Rich Shepard wrote:
I've looked in TLC2 without finding the solution to splitting an inline
equation when it's in a table column. I have two long equations in a
2-column table and they make the table much too wide; it extends past the
text width on the right.
I've given up and re-did the table as non-floating. I cannot use the
captionabove environment because LyX tells me that makes no sense. That
response makes no sense to me.
I've not been able to use the rotate or lscape packages to turn this one
wide table 90 degrees. I would appreciate learning how to place a float
table within \being{sidewaystable} and \end{sidewaystable}, or
\being{landscape} and \end{landscape}.
It's been a frustrating couple of hours reading the appropriate sections
of TLC2 and not getting it to work. Haven't had such recalcitrant issues
with LyX for many years.
Rich
Re: Long Math Equation in Table Column
On Thu, 12 Jan 2012, Rich Shepard wrote:
table within \being{sidewaystable} and \end{sidewaystable}, or
\being{landscape} and \end{landscape}.
See? It's that sort of a day. Those should be \begin{... and not
\being{...
Sigh,
Rich
Re: Long Math Equation in Table Column
Not sure to which of these I should respond. :-) In approximately chronological order: 1. IMHO inline equations should never be long. If it's long enough to give you margin/column width headaches, I'd do it display mode, which gives you access to multiline equation formats. 2. Rotating a table in a float should be simple (no ERT required). Put the table in a table float, right click the handle of the float, pick Settings, and check Rotate sideways. 3. Don't know about putting captions above rotated tables. Too kinky for me.
Re: Long Math Equation in Table Column
On Thu, 12 Jan 2012, Paul A. Rubin wrote: Not sure to which of these I should respond. :-) In approximately chronological order: 1. IMHO inline equations should never be long. If it's long enough to give you margin/column width headaches, I'd do it display mode, which gives you access to multiline equation formats. Paul, In the text the equations fit well as inline. I was copying them to the table cells. I can retype them as multiline and see if that works. It should. I looked to see if I could convert from inline to multiline but did not see how to do this. 2. Rotating a table in a float should be simple (no ERT required). Put the table in a table float, right click the handle of the float, pick Settings, and check Rotate sideways. Hmm-m-m. I didn't think to look in the settings. 3. Don't know about putting captions above rotated tables. Too kinky for me. That's the standard; figure captions are below. Thanks, Rich
Re: Long Math Equation in Table Column
On Thu, 12 Jan 2012, Paul A. Rubin wrote: 1. IMHO inline equations should never be long. If it's long enough to give you margin/column width headaches, I'd do it display mode, which gives you access to multiline equation formats. Paul, Er, ... according to the detailed Math manual, Only inline formulas are allowed inside tables. So, that's that. 2. Rotating a table in a float should be simple (no ERT required). Put the table in a table float, right click the handle of the float, pick Settings, and check Rotate sideways. That was my problem: I kept looking for the settings by clicking on the table itself or the table tools that display when the cursor is within the table. I don't think that in all the years I've been using LyX that I ever right-clicked on the grey square reading 'Figure' or 'Table'. How interesting! I do the above, save the document, and look at the dvi preview. It's not rotated but in the upper right corner of the page and off both margins. But ... A-ha! It is rotated in the pdflatex output. It occurred to me that sometimes the dvi preview does not display properly while the compiled output does. Thanks for the lesson, Rich
Re: Long Math Equation in Table Column
Rich Shepard writes: Er, ... according to the detailed Math manual, Only inline formulas are allowed inside tables. So, that's that. Nonsense. Simply set the column width or put the formula in a minipage. -- Enrico
Long Math Equation in Table Column
I've looked in TLC2 without finding the solution to splitting an inline equation when it's in a table column. I have two long equations in a 2-column table and they make the table much too wide; it extends past the text width on the right. Making the font a smaller size is one solution, but I'd prefer to have the equation span multiple lines within a single table cell. Is there a way to do this? TIA, Rich
Re: Long Math Equation in Table Column
On Thu, 12 Jan 2012, Rich Shepard wrote: Is there a way to do this? I found the rotating package, but I'm having difficulty using it. Perhaps I need to modify the LaTeX output manually? Rich
Re: Long Math Equation in Table Column
On Thu, 12 Jan 2012, Rich Shepard wrote:
I've looked in TLC2 without finding the solution to splitting an inline
equation when it's in a table column. I have two long equations in a
2-column table and they make the table much too wide; it extends past the
text width on the right.
I've given up and re-did the table as non-floating. I cannot use the
captionabove environment because LyX tells me that makes no sense. That
response makes no sense to me.
I've not been able to use the rotate or lscape packages to turn this one
wide table 90 degrees. I would appreciate learning how to place a float
table within \being{sidewaystable} and \end{sidewaystable}, or
\being{landscape} and \end{landscape}.
It's been a frustrating couple of hours reading the appropriate sections
of TLC2 and not getting it to work. Haven't had such recalcitrant issues
with LyX for many years.
Rich
Re: Long Math Equation in Table Column
On Thu, 12 Jan 2012, Rich Shepard wrote:
table within \being{sidewaystable} and \end{sidewaystable}, or
\being{landscape} and \end{landscape}.
See? It's that sort of a day. Those should be \begin{... and not
\being{...
Sigh,
Rich
Re: Long Math Equation in Table Column
Not sure to which of these I should respond. :-) In approximately chronological order: 1. IMHO inline equations should never be long. If it's long enough to give you margin/column width headaches, I'd do it display mode, which gives you access to multiline equation formats. 2. Rotating a table in a float should be simple (no ERT required). Put the table in a table float, right click the handle of the float, pick Settings, and check Rotate sideways. 3. Don't know about putting captions above rotated tables. Too kinky for me.
Re: Long Math Equation in Table Column
On Thu, 12 Jan 2012, Paul A. Rubin wrote: Not sure to which of these I should respond. :-) In approximately chronological order: 1. IMHO inline equations should never be long. If it's long enough to give you margin/column width headaches, I'd do it display mode, which gives you access to multiline equation formats. Paul, In the text the equations fit well as inline. I was copying them to the table cells. I can retype them as multiline and see if that works. It should. I looked to see if I could convert from inline to multiline but did not see how to do this. 2. Rotating a table in a float should be simple (no ERT required). Put the table in a table float, right click the handle of the float, pick Settings, and check Rotate sideways. Hmm-m-m. I didn't think to look in the settings. 3. Don't know about putting captions above rotated tables. Too kinky for me. That's the standard; figure captions are below. Thanks, Rich
Re: Long Math Equation in Table Column
On Thu, 12 Jan 2012, Paul A. Rubin wrote: 1. IMHO inline equations should never be long. If it's long enough to give you margin/column width headaches, I'd do it display mode, which gives you access to multiline equation formats. Paul, Er, ... according to the detailed Math manual, Only inline formulas are allowed inside tables. So, that's that. 2. Rotating a table in a float should be simple (no ERT required). Put the table in a table float, right click the handle of the float, pick Settings, and check Rotate sideways. That was my problem: I kept looking for the settings by clicking on the table itself or the table tools that display when the cursor is within the table. I don't think that in all the years I've been using LyX that I ever right-clicked on the grey square reading 'Figure' or 'Table'. How interesting! I do the above, save the document, and look at the dvi preview. It's not rotated but in the upper right corner of the page and off both margins. But ... A-ha! It is rotated in the pdflatex output. It occurred to me that sometimes the dvi preview does not display properly while the compiled output does. Thanks for the lesson, Rich
Re: Long Math Equation in Table Column
Rich Shepard writes: Er, ... according to the detailed Math manual, Only inline formulas are allowed inside tables. So, that's that. Nonsense. Simply set the column width or put the formula in a minipage. -- Enrico
Long Math Equation in Table Column
I've looked in TLC2 without finding the solution to splitting an inline equation when it's in a table column. I have two long equations in a 2-column table and they make the table much too wide; it extends past the text width on the right. Making the font a smaller size is one solution, but I'd prefer to have the equation span multiple lines within a single table cell. Is there a way to do this? TIA, Rich
Re: Long Math Equation in Table Column
On Thu, 12 Jan 2012, Rich Shepard wrote: Is there a way to do this? I found the rotating package, but I'm having difficulty using it. Perhaps I need to modify the LaTeX output manually? Rich
Re: Long Math Equation in Table Column
On Thu, 12 Jan 2012, Rich Shepard wrote:
I've looked in TLC2 without finding the solution to splitting an inline
equation when it's in a table column. I have two long equations in a
2-column table and they make the table much too wide; it extends past the
text width on the right.
I've given up and re-did the table as non-floating. I cannot use the
captionabove environment because LyX tells me that makes no sense. That
response makes no sense to me.
I've not been able to use the rotate or lscape packages to turn this one
wide table 90 degrees. I would appreciate learning how to place a float
table within \being{sidewaystable} and \end{sidewaystable}, or
\being{landscape} and \end{landscape}.
It's been a frustrating couple of hours reading the appropriate sections
of TLC2 and not getting it to work. Haven't had such recalcitrant issues
with LyX for many years.
Rich
Re: Long Math Equation in Table Column
On Thu, 12 Jan 2012, Rich Shepard wrote:
table within \being{sidewaystable} and \end{sidewaystable}, or
\being{landscape} and \end{landscape}.
See? It's that sort of a day. Those should be \begin{... and not
\being{...
Sigh,
Rich
Re: Long Math Equation in Table Column
Not sure to which of these I should respond. :-) In approximately chronological order: 1. IMHO inline equations should never be long. If it's long enough to give you margin/column width headaches, I'd do it display mode, which gives you access to multiline equation formats. 2. Rotating a table in a float should be simple (no ERT required). Put the table in a table float, right click the handle of the float, pick Settings, and check "Rotate sideways". 3. Don't know about putting captions above rotated tables. Too kinky for me.
Re: Long Math Equation in Table Column
On Thu, 12 Jan 2012, Paul A. Rubin wrote: Not sure to which of these I should respond. :-) In approximately chronological order: 1. IMHO inline equations should never be long. If it's long enough to give you margin/column width headaches, I'd do it display mode, which gives you access to multiline equation formats. Paul, In the text the equations fit well as inline. I was copying them to the table cells. I can retype them as multiline and see if that works. It should. I looked to see if I could convert from inline to multiline but did not see how to do this. 2. Rotating a table in a float should be simple (no ERT required). Put the table in a table float, right click the handle of the float, pick Settings, and check "Rotate sideways". Hmm-m-m. I didn't think to look in the settings. 3. Don't know about putting captions above rotated tables. Too kinky for me. That's the standard; figure captions are below. Thanks, Rich
Re: Long Math Equation in Table Column
On Thu, 12 Jan 2012, Paul A. Rubin wrote: 1. IMHO inline equations should never be long. If it's long enough to give you margin/column width headaches, I'd do it display mode, which gives you access to multiline equation formats. Paul, Er, ... according to the detailed Math manual, "Only inline formulas are allowed inside tables." So, that's that. 2. Rotating a table in a float should be simple (no ERT required). Put the table in a table float, right click the handle of the float, pick Settings, and check "Rotate sideways". That was my problem: I kept looking for the settings by clicking on the table itself or the table tools that display when the cursor is within the table. I don't think that in all the years I've been using LyX that I ever right-clicked on the grey square reading 'Figure' or 'Table'. How interesting! I do the above, save the document, and look at the dvi preview. It's not rotated but in the upper right corner of the page and off both margins. But ... A-ha! It is rotated in the pdflatex output. It occurred to me that sometimes the dvi preview does not display properly while the compiled output does. Thanks for the lesson, Rich
Re: Long Math Equation in Table Column
Rich Shepard writes: >Er, ... according to the detailed Math manual, "Only inline formulas are > allowed inside tables." So, that's that. Nonsense. Simply set the column width or put the formula in a minipage. -- Enrico
