Re: Lyx on MacBook Pro retina
Am 12.01.2013 um 02:22 schrieb Scott Kostyshak skost...@princeton.edu: On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Julian Kolm julian.k...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I think it is a real pity that this issue is dormant at the moment. It really makes lyx almost impossible to use for writing long text and that is the major use case after all. Since the number of people who will be affected by this is bound to rise a fix would really be appreciated. Good point. But unfortunately there are only one or two Mac developers around here, and I'm not even sure they have the hardware to test the retina display. I have a Mac with retina display. That's not the problem. IMHO, the problem is the drawing concept of LyX. To speed up the drawing of text LyX is using a pixmap cache for the text. Therefor the information is passed to the render mechanism as an image. I didn't find the time to debug this and locate the point where to solve this. I tried to simply disable the pixmap cache but without success so far. But there are other related problems as well. One prerequisite for the whole retina business is the use of the Cocoa API. I tried to switch to Qt-Cocoa but got the first complaints already. Dragon dictate is not working (don't know why) and the menu bar is weird (as reported by Anna). I cannot do much about this at the moment. I have a big project at work to do and not much spare time. Stephan This asymmetry between many users and only a couple of developers makes me wonder if this situation is good for a sponsorship. If everyone donated a little, maybe it would make it more worthwhile to the developer (or at least show the developer that some people care and are happy to help contribute). I have no idea how much work would be required for this or if any developer would want to spend their free time working on it. See http://www.lyx.org/Donate for past sponsors. Best, Scott
Re: Lyx on MacBook Pro retina
Am 12.01.2013 um 02:22 schrieb Scott Kostyshak skost...@princeton.edu: On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Julian Kolm julian.k...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I think it is a real pity that this issue is dormant at the moment. It really makes lyx almost impossible to use for writing long text and that is the major use case after all. Since the number of people who will be affected by this is bound to rise a fix would really be appreciated. Good point. But unfortunately there are only one or two Mac developers around here, and I'm not even sure they have the hardware to test the retina display. I have a Mac with retina display. That's not the problem. IMHO, the problem is the drawing concept of LyX. To speed up the drawing of text LyX is using a pixmap cache for the text. Therefor the information is passed to the render mechanism as an image. I didn't find the time to debug this and locate the point where to solve this. I tried to simply disable the pixmap cache but without success so far. But there are other related problems as well. One prerequisite for the whole retina business is the use of the Cocoa API. I tried to switch to Qt-Cocoa but got the first complaints already. Dragon dictate is not working (don't know why) and the menu bar is weird (as reported by Anna). I cannot do much about this at the moment. I have a big project at work to do and not much spare time. Stephan This asymmetry between many users and only a couple of developers makes me wonder if this situation is good for a sponsorship. If everyone donated a little, maybe it would make it more worthwhile to the developer (or at least show the developer that some people care and are happy to help contribute). I have no idea how much work would be required for this or if any developer would want to spend their free time working on it. See http://www.lyx.org/Donate for past sponsors. Best, Scott
Re: Lyx on MacBook Pro retina
Am 12.01.2013 um 02:22 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: > On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Julian Kolm wrote: >> Hi, I think it is a real pity that this issue is dormant at the moment. It >> really makes lyx almost impossible to use for writing long text and that is >> the major use case after all. Since the number of people who will be >> affected by this is bound to rise a fix would really be appreciated. > > Good point. But unfortunately there are only one or two Mac developers > around here, and I'm not even sure they have the hardware to test the > retina display. I have a Mac with retina display. That's not the problem. IMHO, the problem is the drawing concept of LyX. To speed up the drawing of text LyX is using a pixmap cache for the text. Therefor the information is passed to the render mechanism as an image. I didn't find the time to debug this and locate the point where to solve this. I tried to simply disable the pixmap cache but without success so far. But there are other related problems as well. One prerequisite for the whole retina business is the use of the Cocoa API. I tried to switch to Qt-Cocoa but got the first complaints already. Dragon dictate is not working (don't know why) and the menu bar is weird (as reported by Anna). I cannot do much about this at the moment. I have a big project at work to do and not much spare time. Stephan > This asymmetry between many users and only a couple of developers > makes me wonder if this situation is good for a sponsorship. If > everyone donated a little, maybe it would make it more worthwhile to > the developer (or at least show the developer that some people care > and are happy to help contribute). I have no idea how much work would > be required for this or if any developer would want to spend their > free time working on it. See http://www.lyx.org/Donate for past > sponsors. > > Best, > > Scott
Re: Lyx on MacBook Pro retina
Hi, I think it is a real pity that this issue is dormant at the moment. It really makes lyx almost impossible to use for writing long text and that is the major use case after all. Since the number of people who will be affected by this is bound to rise a fix would really be appreciated. I do not know whether this helps a potential developer taking up the issue but using lyx under Windows on a MacBook Pro Retina works without a Problem. If someone would decide to take this up I could offer testing as the hardware is probably not that common. Regards, Julian
Re: Lyx on MacBook Pro retina
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Julian Kolm julian.k...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I think it is a real pity that this issue is dormant at the moment. It really makes lyx almost impossible to use for writing long text and that is the major use case after all. Since the number of people who will be affected by this is bound to rise a fix would really be appreciated. Good point. But unfortunately there are only one or two Mac developers around here, and I'm not even sure they have the hardware to test the retina display. This asymmetry between many users and only a couple of developers makes me wonder if this situation is good for a sponsorship. If everyone donated a little, maybe it would make it more worthwhile to the developer (or at least show the developer that some people care and are happy to help contribute). I have no idea how much work would be required for this or if any developer would want to spend their free time working on it. See http://www.lyx.org/Donate for past sponsors. Best, Scott
Re: Lyx on MacBook Pro retina
Hi, I think it is a real pity that this issue is dormant at the moment. It really makes lyx almost impossible to use for writing long text and that is the major use case after all. Since the number of people who will be affected by this is bound to rise a fix would really be appreciated. I do not know whether this helps a potential developer taking up the issue but using lyx under Windows on a MacBook Pro Retina works without a Problem. If someone would decide to take this up I could offer testing as the hardware is probably not that common. Regards, Julian
Re: Lyx on MacBook Pro retina
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Julian Kolm julian.k...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I think it is a real pity that this issue is dormant at the moment. It really makes lyx almost impossible to use for writing long text and that is the major use case after all. Since the number of people who will be affected by this is bound to rise a fix would really be appreciated. Good point. But unfortunately there are only one or two Mac developers around here, and I'm not even sure they have the hardware to test the retina display. This asymmetry between many users and only a couple of developers makes me wonder if this situation is good for a sponsorship. If everyone donated a little, maybe it would make it more worthwhile to the developer (or at least show the developer that some people care and are happy to help contribute). I have no idea how much work would be required for this or if any developer would want to spend their free time working on it. See http://www.lyx.org/Donate for past sponsors. Best, Scott
Re: Lyx on MacBook Pro retina
Hi, I think it is a real pity that this issue is dormant at the moment. It really makes lyx almost impossible to use for writing long text and that is the major use case after all. Since the number of people who will be affected by this is bound to rise a fix would really be appreciated. I do not know whether this helps a potential developer taking up the issue but using lyx under Windows on a MacBook Pro Retina works without a Problem. If someone would decide to take this up I could offer testing as the hardware is probably not that common. Regards, Julian
Re: Lyx on MacBook Pro retina
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Julian Kolmwrote: > Hi, I think it is a real pity that this issue is dormant at the moment. It > really makes lyx almost impossible to use for writing long text and that is > the major use case after all. Since the number of people who will be > affected by this is bound to rise a fix would really be appreciated. Good point. But unfortunately there are only one or two Mac developers around here, and I'm not even sure they have the hardware to test the retina display. This asymmetry between many users and only a couple of developers makes me wonder if this situation is good for a sponsorship. If everyone donated a little, maybe it would make it more worthwhile to the developer (or at least show the developer that some people care and are happy to help contribute). I have no idea how much work would be required for this or if any developer would want to spend their free time working on it. See http://www.lyx.org/Donate for past sponsors. Best, Scott
Re: Lyx on MacBook Pro retina
Would anyone be so kind to comment on the status of a retina fix for Lyx? This thread sort of died of without a solution / conclusion, I'm keen to have and idea of a possible fix. Seems that its within reason, though admittedly something of a niche problem. Thanks, -jelle
Re: Lyx on MacBook Pro retina
Am 06.01.2013 um 18:11 schrieb jelle jelleferi...@gmail.com: Would anyone be so kind to comment on the status of a retina fix for Lyx? This thread sort of died of without a solution / conclusion, I'm keen to have and idea of a possible fix. Seems that its within reason, though admittedly something of a niche problem. There is no solution currently. And nobody is working on this at the moment. Stephan
Re: Lyx on MacBook Pro retina
Would anyone be so kind to comment on the status of a retina fix for Lyx? This thread sort of died of without a solution / conclusion, I'm keen to have and idea of a possible fix. Seems that its within reason, though admittedly something of a niche problem. Thanks, -jelle
Re: Lyx on MacBook Pro retina
Am 06.01.2013 um 18:11 schrieb jelle jelleferi...@gmail.com: Would anyone be so kind to comment on the status of a retina fix for Lyx? This thread sort of died of without a solution / conclusion, I'm keen to have and idea of a possible fix. Seems that its within reason, though admittedly something of a niche problem. There is no solution currently. And nobody is working on this at the moment. Stephan
Re: Lyx on MacBook Pro retina
Would anyone be so kind to comment on the status of a retina fix for Lyx? This thread sort of died of without a solution / conclusion, I'm keen to have and idea of a possible fix. Seems that its within reason, though admittedly something of a niche problem. Thanks, -jelle
Re: Lyx on MacBook Pro retina
Am 06.01.2013 um 18:11 schrieb jelle: > Would anyone be so kind to comment on the status of a retina fix for Lyx? > This thread sort of died of without a solution / conclusion, I'm keen to have > and idea of a possible fix. Seems that its within reason, though admittedly > something of a niche problem. There is no solution currently. And nobody is working on this at the moment. Stephan
Re: Lyx on MacBook Pro retina
On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 1:48 AM, Stephan Witt st.w...@gmx.net wrote: Am 30.09.2012 um 01:22 schrieb James Sutherland james.sutherl...@utah.edu : Here is a way to get it working (for the displayed text at least - icons are another matter): 1. Edit /Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Info.plist 2. At the bottom of that file, inside the dict scope, add the following two lines: keyNSHighResolutionCapable/key true/ Restart LyX and you should be good to go! Yes, that's the theory. In practice helps for the displayed text of decorations and dialogs. It doesn't help with the main work area, unfortunately. Not here, at least. In any case it's a good move to add this to the applications Info property file. Stephan You are right. James
Re: Lyx on MacBook Pro retina
On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 1:48 AM, Stephan Witt st.w...@gmx.net wrote: Am 30.09.2012 um 01:22 schrieb James Sutherland james.sutherl...@utah.edu : Here is a way to get it working (for the displayed text at least - icons are another matter): 1. Edit /Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Info.plist 2. At the bottom of that file, inside the dict scope, add the following two lines: keyNSHighResolutionCapable/key true/ Restart LyX and you should be good to go! Yes, that's the theory. In practice helps for the displayed text of decorations and dialogs. It doesn't help with the main work area, unfortunately. Not here, at least. In any case it's a good move to add this to the applications Info property file. Stephan You are right. James
Re: Lyx on MacBook Pro retina
On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 1:48 AM, Stephan Wittwrote: > Am 30.09.2012 um 01:22 schrieb James Sutherland >: > > > Here is a way to get it working (for the displayed text at least - icons > are another matter): > > > > 1. Edit /Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Info.plist > > 2. At the bottom of that file, inside the scope, add the > following two lines: > > NSHighResolutionCapable > > > > > > Restart LyX and you should be good to go! > > Yes, that's the theory. In practice helps for the displayed text of > decorations and dialogs. > It doesn't help with the main work area, unfortunately. Not here, at least. > In any case it's a good move to add this to the applications Info property > file. > > Stephan > You are right. James
Re: Lyx on MacBook Pro retina
Am 30.09.2012 um 01:22 schrieb James Sutherland james.sutherl...@utah.edu: Here is a way to get it working (for the displayed text at least - icons are another matter): 1. Edit /Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Info.plist 2. At the bottom of that file, inside the dict scope, add the following two lines: keyNSHighResolutionCapable/key true/ Restart LyX and you should be good to go! Yes, that's the theory. In practice helps for the displayed text of decorations and dialogs. It doesn't help with the main work area, unfortunately. Not here, at least. In any case it's a good move to add this to the applications Info property file. Stephan James On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 7:14 AM, Jacques Le Bourlot jacques.lebour...@obspm.fr wrote: Bonjour, I just got a new MacBook Pro 15 with retina screen (which nobody care, I guess). However, LyX is one of the very few applications which does NOT scale to the new resolution. The result is both blurry and extremely ugly. Is there a (VERY simple) way to fix that, or must I wait for an update? Thank you. Jacques
Re: Lyx on MacBook Pro retina
Am 30.09.2012 um 01:22 schrieb James Sutherland james.sutherl...@utah.edu: Here is a way to get it working (for the displayed text at least - icons are another matter): 1. Edit /Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Info.plist 2. At the bottom of that file, inside the dict scope, add the following two lines: keyNSHighResolutionCapable/key true/ Restart LyX and you should be good to go! Yes, that's the theory. In practice helps for the displayed text of decorations and dialogs. It doesn't help with the main work area, unfortunately. Not here, at least. In any case it's a good move to add this to the applications Info property file. Stephan James On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 7:14 AM, Jacques Le Bourlot jacques.lebour...@obspm.fr wrote: Bonjour, I just got a new MacBook Pro 15 with retina screen (which nobody care, I guess). However, LyX is one of the very few applications which does NOT scale to the new resolution. The result is both blurry and extremely ugly. Is there a (VERY simple) way to fix that, or must I wait for an update? Thank you. Jacques
Re: Lyx on MacBook Pro retina
Am 30.09.2012 um 01:22 schrieb James Sutherland: > Here is a way to get it working (for the displayed text at least - icons are > another matter): > > 1. Edit /Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Info.plist > 2. At the bottom of that file, inside the scope, add the following two > lines: > NSHighResolutionCapable > > > Restart LyX and you should be good to go! Yes, that's the theory. In practice helps for the displayed text of decorations and dialogs. It doesn't help with the main work area, unfortunately. Not here, at least. In any case it's a good move to add this to the applications Info property file. Stephan > > James > > > > On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 7:14 AM, Jacques Le Bourlot > wrote: > > Bonjour, > > I just got a new MacBook Pro 15" with retina screen (which nobody care, I > guess). However, LyX is one of the very few applications which does NOT scale > to the new resolution. The result is both blurry and extremely ugly. > > Is there a (VERY simple) way to fix that, or must I wait for an update? > > Thank you. > > Jacques > >
Re: Lyx on MacBook Pro retina
Richard Heck wrote: Is there a (VERY simple) way to fix that, or must I wait for an update? I believe this is being fixed for 2.0.5. Stephan? Only in trunk, apparently: http://www.lyx.org/trac/changeset/99e53ffce04337cc50c9cfbdb900e66064d450ed/lyxgit Would be worth backporting, I suppose, if it works. Jürgen
Re: Lyx on MacBook Pro retina
Le 29 sept. 2012 à 11:02, Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org a écrit : Richard Heck wrote: Is there a (VERY simple) way to fix that, or must I wait for an update? I believe this is being fixed for 2.0.5. Stephan? Only in trunk, apparently: http://www.lyx.org/trac/changeset/99e53ffce04337cc50c9cfbdb900e66064d450ed/lyxgit Would be worth backporting, I suppose, if it works. Jürgen Indeed! Thank you. Jacques
Re: Lyx on MacBook Pro retina
Here is a way to get it working (for the displayed text at least - icons are another matter): 1. Edit /Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Info.plist 2. At the bottom of that file, inside the dict scope, add the following two lines: keyNSHighResolutionCapable/key true/ Restart LyX and you should be good to go! James On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 7:14 AM, Jacques Le Bourlot jacques.lebour...@obspm.fr wrote: Bonjour, I just got a new MacBook Pro 15 with retina screen (which nobody care, I guess). However, LyX is one of the very few applications which does NOT scale to the new resolution. The result is both blurry and extremely ugly. Is there a (VERY simple) way to fix that, or must I wait for an update? Thank you. Jacques
Re: Lyx on MacBook Pro retina
Richard Heck wrote: Is there a (VERY simple) way to fix that, or must I wait for an update? I believe this is being fixed for 2.0.5. Stephan? Only in trunk, apparently: http://www.lyx.org/trac/changeset/99e53ffce04337cc50c9cfbdb900e66064d450ed/lyxgit Would be worth backporting, I suppose, if it works. Jürgen
Re: Lyx on MacBook Pro retina
Le 29 sept. 2012 à 11:02, Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org a écrit : Richard Heck wrote: Is there a (VERY simple) way to fix that, or must I wait for an update? I believe this is being fixed for 2.0.5. Stephan? Only in trunk, apparently: http://www.lyx.org/trac/changeset/99e53ffce04337cc50c9cfbdb900e66064d450ed/lyxgit Would be worth backporting, I suppose, if it works. Jürgen Indeed! Thank you. Jacques
Re: Lyx on MacBook Pro retina
Here is a way to get it working (for the displayed text at least - icons are another matter): 1. Edit /Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Info.plist 2. At the bottom of that file, inside the dict scope, add the following two lines: keyNSHighResolutionCapable/key true/ Restart LyX and you should be good to go! James On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 7:14 AM, Jacques Le Bourlot jacques.lebour...@obspm.fr wrote: Bonjour, I just got a new MacBook Pro 15 with retina screen (which nobody care, I guess). However, LyX is one of the very few applications which does NOT scale to the new resolution. The result is both blurry and extremely ugly. Is there a (VERY simple) way to fix that, or must I wait for an update? Thank you. Jacques
Re: Lyx on MacBook Pro retina
Richard Heck wrote: > > Is there a (VERY simple) way to fix that, or must I wait for an update? > > I believe this is being fixed for 2.0.5. Stephan? Only in trunk, apparently: http://www.lyx.org/trac/changeset/99e53ffce04337cc50c9cfbdb900e66064d450ed/lyxgit Would be worth backporting, I suppose, if it works. Jürgen
Re: Lyx on MacBook Pro retina
Le 29 sept. 2012 à 11:02, Jürgen Spitzmüllera écrit : > Richard Heck wrote: >>> Is there a (VERY simple) way to fix that, or must I wait for an update? >> >> I believe this is being fixed for 2.0.5. Stephan? > > Only in trunk, apparently: > http://www.lyx.org/trac/changeset/99e53ffce04337cc50c9cfbdb900e66064d450ed/lyxgit > > Would be worth backporting, I suppose, if it works. > > Jürgen Indeed! Thank you. Jacques
Re: Lyx on MacBook Pro retina
Here is a way to get it working (for the displayed text at least - icons are another matter): 1. Edit /Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Info.plist 2. At the bottom of that file, inside the scope, add the following two lines: NSHighResolutionCapable Restart LyX and you should be good to go! James On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 7:14 AM, Jacques Le Bourlot < jacques.lebour...@obspm.fr> wrote: > > Bonjour, > > I just got a new MacBook Pro 15" with retina screen (which nobody care, I > guess). However, LyX is one of the very few applications which does NOT > scale to the new resolution. The result is both blurry and extremely ugly. > > Is there a (VERY simple) way to fix that, or must I wait for an update? > > Thank you. > > Jacques >
Lyx on MacBook Pro retina
Bonjour, I just got a new MacBook Pro 15 with retina screen (which nobody care, I guess). However, LyX is one of the very few applications which does NOT scale to the new resolution. The result is both blurry and extremely ugly. Is there a (VERY simple) way to fix that, or must I wait for an update? Thank you. Jacques
Re: Lyx on MacBook Pro retina
On 09/28/2012 09:14 AM, Jacques Le Bourlot wrote: Bonjour, I just got a new MacBook Pro 15 with retina screen (which nobody care, I guess). However, LyX is one of the very few applications which does NOT scale to the new resolution. The result is both blurry and extremely ugly. Is there a (VERY simple) way to fix that, or must I wait for an update? I believe this is being fixed for 2.0.5. Stephan? Richard
Lyx on MacBook Pro retina
Bonjour, I just got a new MacBook Pro 15 with retina screen (which nobody care, I guess). However, LyX is one of the very few applications which does NOT scale to the new resolution. The result is both blurry and extremely ugly. Is there a (VERY simple) way to fix that, or must I wait for an update? Thank you. Jacques
Re: Lyx on MacBook Pro retina
On 09/28/2012 09:14 AM, Jacques Le Bourlot wrote: Bonjour, I just got a new MacBook Pro 15 with retina screen (which nobody care, I guess). However, LyX is one of the very few applications which does NOT scale to the new resolution. The result is both blurry and extremely ugly. Is there a (VERY simple) way to fix that, or must I wait for an update? I believe this is being fixed for 2.0.5. Stephan? Richard
Lyx on MacBook Pro retina
Bonjour, I just got a new MacBook Pro 15" with retina screen (which nobody care, I guess). However, LyX is one of the very few applications which does NOT scale to the new resolution. The result is both blurry and extremely ugly. Is there a (VERY simple) way to fix that, or must I wait for an update? Thank you. Jacques
Re: Lyx on MacBook Pro retina
On 09/28/2012 09:14 AM, Jacques Le Bourlot wrote: Bonjour, I just got a new MacBook Pro 15" with retina screen (which nobody care, I guess). However, LyX is one of the very few applications which does NOT scale to the new resolution. The result is both blurry and extremely ugly. Is there a (VERY simple) way to fix that, or must I wait for an update? I believe this is being fixed for 2.0.5. Stephan? Richard