Re: Printing a LyX file as it appears onscreen

2011-10-17 Thread Liviu Andronic 
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 12:23 AM, Bert Lloyd bert.lloyd...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello LyX users,

 Is it possible to print a paper copy of a LyX document as it appears
 onscreen, i.e. without exporting to PDF?

Have you tried File  Print? Normally it prints the document as seen
in LyX, and usually people complain that the output is crap while we
point them to the PDF preview.

Regards
Liviu


 I would like to read through a collaborative document with lots of
 tracked changes, LyX notes, and other things that do not get exported
 to PDF, and always find reading the printed page more conducive to
 thinking than reading on-screen.

 Many thanks in advance for your advice.

  - BL




-- 
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http://www.alienetworks.com/srtest.cfm
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Re: Printing a LyX file as it appears onscreen

2011-10-17 Thread Helge Hafting 

On 17. okt. 2011 00:23, Bert Lloyd wrote:

Hello LyX users,

Is it possible to print a paper copy of a LyX document as it appears
onscreen, i.e. without exporting to PDF?

I would like to read through a collaborative document with lots of
tracked changes, LyX notes, and other things that do not get exported
to PDF, and always find reading the printed page more conducive to
thinking than reading on-screen.


Use the menu Document-Change Tracking, and check the entry
Show Changes in Output.

When that setting is used, the changes is printed. (Blue for
new stuff, strikeout for deleted stuff, and so on.) This works
for PDF export too.

I don't think you can print notes, but there may be other ways to get
what you want. Instead of using notes, use a special change tracking 
user to write note text. When you no longer need the notes, just
reject those changes. Using a special note user makes it easier to 
see what is notes and what is your normal changes.


I know no way to print exactly what's on screen, other than
using lots of screen dumps. Which is too cumbersome.

Helge Hafting

Re: Printing a LyX file as it appears onscreen

2011-10-17 Thread David L. Johnson 

On 10/17/2011 02:57 AM, Liviu Andronic wrote:

On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 12:23 AM, Bert Lloydbert.lloyd...@gmail.com  wrote:

Hello LyX users,

Is it possible to print a paper copy of a LyX document as it appears
onscreen, i.e. without exporting to PDF?


Have you tried File  Print? Normally it prints the document as seen
in LyX, and usually people complain that the output is crap while we
point them to the PDF preview.
I'm confused.  How is the output of FilePrint any different from 
exporting to PDF and printing?  For me they have always be identical.


--

David L. Johnson

What is objectionable, and what is dangerous about extremists is not
that they are extreme, but that they are intolerant.
--Robert F. Kennedy

Re: Printing a LyX file as it appears onscreen

2011-10-17 Thread Richard Heck 

On 10/17/2011 08:53 AM, Helge Hafting wrote:


I don't think you can print notes,

The only way to do it would be to redefine the Note insets via some 
layout. If that's not possible, then we should make it possible. This is 
a common request.


Richard

Re: Printing a LyX file as it appears onscreen

2011-10-17 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller 
Richard Heck wrote:
 The only way to do it would be to redefine the Note insets via some 
 layout. If that's not possible, then we should make it possible. This is 
 a common request.

It's not possible yet with (yellow) notes, since InsetNote::latex returns 
early if params_.type == InsetNoteParams::Note. Perhaps we should make the 
output a parameter of the layout instead of hardcoding it for a given type.

With comment (and greyed out, for that matter), you can do something like the 
attached.

Jürgen#\DeclareLyXModule{TODO notes from comments}
#DescriptionBegin
#Outputs comments as TODO-notes. A list of todo notes can be produced
#by inserting \listoftodos in ERT.
#DescriptionEnd
# Author: Juergen Spitzmueller sp...@lyx.org

Format 35

Preamble
\RequirePackage{todonotes}
EndPreamble

InsetLayout Note:Comment
LatexType command
LatexName todo
End

Re: Printing a LyX file as it appears onscreen

2011-10-17 Thread Bert Lloyd 
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 2:57 AM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 12:23 AM, Bert Lloyd bert.lloyd...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello LyX users,

 Is it possible to print a paper copy of a LyX document as it appears
 onscreen, i.e. without exporting to PDF?

 Have you tried File  Print? Normally it prints the document as seen
 in LyX, and usually people complain that the output is crap while we
 point them to the PDF preview.

 Regards
 Liviu



When I try File  Print, I get a popup menu titled LyX: Print
Document, with Print Destination options of Printer: and File:

The Printer field is blank, and when I choose this option, dvips
starts, saying that it's working with a .dvi file. I can't find this
dvi file or a .ps file created, so I'm not sure it is actually
created.

If I choose File, similarly dvips runs, and a ps file is created. When
I run Distiller on the .ps file, it creates a compiled pdf, which
looks just like what I get if I do File - Export - pdflatex.

Thanks.

Re: Printing a LyX file as it appears onscreen

2011-10-17 Thread David L. Johnson 

On 10/17/2011 11:27 AM, Bert Lloyd wrote:

On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 2:57 AM, Liviu Androniclandronim...@gmail.com  wrote:

On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 12:23 AM, Bert Lloydbert.lloyd...@gmail.com  wrote:

Hello LyX users,

Is it possible to print a paper copy of a LyX document as it appears
onscreen, i.e. without exporting to PDF?


Have you tried File  Print? Normally it prints the document as seen
in LyX, and usually people complain that the output is crap while we
point them to the PDF preview.

Regards
Liviu



When I try File  Print, I get a popup menu titled LyX: Print
Document, with Print Destination options of Printer: and File:

The Printer field is blank, and when I choose this option, dvips
starts, saying that it's working with a .dvi file.
Didn't LyX automatically run a configure script when it was first run?  
Maybe on Windows you don't see that.  It failed to find a printer.  But 
if you have a default printer on your computer, it should be able to 
find it.  You might try ToolsPreferencesOutputPrinter to see what it 
thinks is available (it probably thinks none is), and if there is a 
problem, run ToolsReconfigure  and see if it finds the printer.


--

David L. Johnson

You will say Christ saith this and the apostles say this; but what
canst thou say?
-- George Fox.

Re: Printing a LyX file as it appears onscreen

2011-10-17 Thread Liviu Andronic 
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 12:23 AM, Bert Lloyd bert.lloyd...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello LyX users,

 Is it possible to print a paper copy of a LyX document as it appears
 onscreen, i.e. without exporting to PDF?

Have you tried File  Print? Normally it prints the document as seen
in LyX, and usually people complain that the output is crap while we
point them to the PDF preview.

Regards
Liviu


 I would like to read through a collaborative document with lots of
 tracked changes, LyX notes, and other things that do not get exported
 to PDF, and always find reading the printed page more conducive to
 thinking than reading on-screen.

 Many thanks in advance for your advice.

  - BL




-- 
Do you know how to read?
http://www.alienetworks.com/srtest.cfm
http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/xfce4-dict#speed-reader
Do you know how to write?
http://garbl.home.comcast.net/~garbl/stylemanual/e.htm#e-mail

Re: Printing a LyX file as it appears onscreen

2011-10-17 Thread Helge Hafting 

On 17. okt. 2011 00:23, Bert Lloyd wrote:

Hello LyX users,

Is it possible to print a paper copy of a LyX document as it appears
onscreen, i.e. without exporting to PDF?

I would like to read through a collaborative document with lots of
tracked changes, LyX notes, and other things that do not get exported
to PDF, and always find reading the printed page more conducive to
thinking than reading on-screen.


Use the menu Document-Change Tracking, and check the entry
Show Changes in Output.

When that setting is used, the changes is printed. (Blue for
new stuff, strikeout for deleted stuff, and so on.) This works
for PDF export too.

I don't think you can print notes, but there may be other ways to get
what you want. Instead of using notes, use a special change tracking 
user to write note text. When you no longer need the notes, just
reject those changes. Using a special note user makes it easier to 
see what is notes and what is your normal changes.


I know no way to print exactly what's on screen, other than
using lots of screen dumps. Which is too cumbersome.

Helge Hafting

Re: Printing a LyX file as it appears onscreen

2011-10-17 Thread David L. Johnson 

On 10/17/2011 02:57 AM, Liviu Andronic wrote:

On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 12:23 AM, Bert Lloydbert.lloyd...@gmail.com  wrote:

Hello LyX users,

Is it possible to print a paper copy of a LyX document as it appears
onscreen, i.e. without exporting to PDF?


Have you tried File  Print? Normally it prints the document as seen
in LyX, and usually people complain that the output is crap while we
point them to the PDF preview.
I'm confused.  How is the output of FilePrint any different from 
exporting to PDF and printing?  For me they have always be identical.


--

David L. Johnson

What is objectionable, and what is dangerous about extremists is not
that they are extreme, but that they are intolerant.
--Robert F. Kennedy

Re: Printing a LyX file as it appears onscreen

2011-10-17 Thread Richard Heck 

On 10/17/2011 08:53 AM, Helge Hafting wrote:


I don't think you can print notes,

The only way to do it would be to redefine the Note insets via some 
layout. If that's not possible, then we should make it possible. This is 
a common request.


Richard

Re: Printing a LyX file as it appears onscreen

2011-10-17 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller 
Richard Heck wrote:
 The only way to do it would be to redefine the Note insets via some 
 layout. If that's not possible, then we should make it possible. This is 
 a common request.

It's not possible yet with (yellow) notes, since InsetNote::latex returns 
early if params_.type == InsetNoteParams::Note. Perhaps we should make the 
output a parameter of the layout instead of hardcoding it for a given type.

With comment (and greyed out, for that matter), you can do something like the 
attached.

Jürgen#\DeclareLyXModule{TODO notes from comments}
#DescriptionBegin
#Outputs comments as TODO-notes. A list of todo notes can be produced
#by inserting \listoftodos in ERT.
#DescriptionEnd
# Author: Juergen Spitzmueller sp...@lyx.org

Format 35

Preamble
\RequirePackage{todonotes}
EndPreamble

InsetLayout Note:Comment
LatexType command
LatexName todo
End

Re: Printing a LyX file as it appears onscreen

2011-10-17 Thread Bert Lloyd 
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 2:57 AM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 12:23 AM, Bert Lloyd bert.lloyd...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello LyX users,

 Is it possible to print a paper copy of a LyX document as it appears
 onscreen, i.e. without exporting to PDF?

 Have you tried File  Print? Normally it prints the document as seen
 in LyX, and usually people complain that the output is crap while we
 point them to the PDF preview.

 Regards
 Liviu



When I try File  Print, I get a popup menu titled LyX: Print
Document, with Print Destination options of Printer: and File:

The Printer field is blank, and when I choose this option, dvips
starts, saying that it's working with a .dvi file. I can't find this
dvi file or a .ps file created, so I'm not sure it is actually
created.

If I choose File, similarly dvips runs, and a ps file is created. When
I run Distiller on the .ps file, it creates a compiled pdf, which
looks just like what I get if I do File - Export - pdflatex.

Thanks.

Re: Printing a LyX file as it appears onscreen

2011-10-17 Thread David L. Johnson 

On 10/17/2011 11:27 AM, Bert Lloyd wrote:

On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 2:57 AM, Liviu Androniclandronim...@gmail.com  wrote:

On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 12:23 AM, Bert Lloydbert.lloyd...@gmail.com  wrote:

Hello LyX users,

Is it possible to print a paper copy of a LyX document as it appears
onscreen, i.e. without exporting to PDF?


Have you tried File  Print? Normally it prints the document as seen
in LyX, and usually people complain that the output is crap while we
point them to the PDF preview.

Regards
Liviu



When I try File  Print, I get a popup menu titled LyX: Print
Document, with Print Destination options of Printer: and File:

The Printer field is blank, and when I choose this option, dvips
starts, saying that it's working with a .dvi file.
Didn't LyX automatically run a configure script when it was first run?  
Maybe on Windows you don't see that.  It failed to find a printer.  But 
if you have a default printer on your computer, it should be able to 
find it.  You might try ToolsPreferencesOutputPrinter to see what it 
thinks is available (it probably thinks none is), and if there is a 
problem, run ToolsReconfigure  and see if it finds the printer.


--

David L. Johnson

You will say Christ saith this and the apostles say this; but what
canst thou say?
-- George Fox.

Re: Printing a LyX file as it appears onscreen

2011-10-17 Thread Liviu Andronic 
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 12:23 AM, Bert Lloyd  wrote:
> Hello LyX users,
>
> Is it possible to print a paper copy of a LyX document as it appears
> onscreen, i.e. without exporting to PDF?
>
Have you tried File > Print? Normally it prints the document as seen
in LyX, and usually people complain that the output is crap while we
point them to the PDF preview.

Regards
Liviu


> I would like to read through a collaborative document with lots of
> tracked changes, LyX notes, and other things that do not get exported
> to PDF, and always find reading the printed page more conducive to
> thinking than reading on-screen.
>
> Many thanks in advance for your advice.
>
>  - BL
>



-- 
Do you know how to read?
http://www.alienetworks.com/srtest.cfm
http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/xfce4-dict#speed-reader
Do you know how to write?
http://garbl.home.comcast.net/~garbl/stylemanual/e.htm#e-mail

Re: Printing a LyX file as it appears onscreen

2011-10-17 Thread Helge Hafting 

On 17. okt. 2011 00:23, Bert Lloyd wrote:

Hello LyX users,

Is it possible to print a paper copy of a LyX document as it appears
onscreen, i.e. without exporting to PDF?

I would like to read through a collaborative document with lots of
tracked changes, LyX notes, and other things that do not get exported
to PDF, and always find reading the printed page more conducive to
thinking than reading on-screen.


Use the menu "Document->Change Tracking", and check the entry
"Show Changes in Output".

When that setting is used, the changes is printed. (Blue for
new stuff, strikeout for deleted stuff, and so on.) This works
for PDF export too.

I don't think you can print notes, but there may be other ways to get
what you want. Instead of using notes, use a special change tracking 
user to write note text. When you no longer need the notes, just
reject those "changes". Using a special "note user" makes it easier to 
see what is notes and what is your normal changes.


I know no way to print exactly what's on screen, other than
using lots of screen dumps. Which is too cumbersome.

Helge Hafting

Re: Printing a LyX file as it appears onscreen

2011-10-17 Thread David L. Johnson 

On 10/17/2011 02:57 AM, Liviu Andronic wrote:

On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 12:23 AM, Bert Lloyd  wrote:

Hello LyX users,

Is it possible to print a paper copy of a LyX document as it appears
onscreen, i.e. without exporting to PDF?


Have you tried File>  Print? Normally it prints the document as seen
in LyX, and usually people complain that the output is crap while we
point them to the PDF preview.
I'm confused.  How is the output of File>Print any different from 
exporting to PDF and printing?  For me they have always be identical.


--

David L. Johnson

What is objectionable, and what is dangerous about extremists is not
that they are extreme, but that they are intolerant.
--Robert F. Kennedy

Re: Printing a LyX file as it appears onscreen

2011-10-17 Thread Richard Heck 

On 10/17/2011 08:53 AM, Helge Hafting wrote:


I don't think you can print notes,

The only way to do it would be to redefine the Note insets via some 
layout. If that's not possible, then we should make it possible. This is 
a common request.


Richard

Re: Printing a LyX file as it appears onscreen

2011-10-17 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller 
Richard Heck wrote:
> The only way to do it would be to redefine the Note insets via some 
> layout. If that's not possible, then we should make it possible. This is 
> a common request.

It's not possible yet with (yellow) notes, since InsetNote::latex returns 
early if params_.type == InsetNoteParams::Note. Perhaps we should make the 
output a parameter of the layout instead of hardcoding it for a given type.

With comment (and greyed out, for that matter), you can do something like the 
attached.

Jürgen#\DeclareLyXModule{TODO notes from comments}
#DescriptionBegin
#Outputs comments as TODO-notes. A list of todo notes can be produced
#by inserting \listoftodos in ERT.
#DescriptionEnd
# Author: Juergen Spitzmueller 

Format 35

Preamble
\RequirePackage{todonotes}
EndPreamble

InsetLayout Note:Comment
LatexType command
LatexName todo
End

Re: Printing a LyX file as it appears onscreen

2011-10-17 Thread Bert Lloyd 
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 2:57 AM, Liviu Andronic  wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 12:23 AM, Bert Lloyd  wrote:
>> Hello LyX users,
>>
>> Is it possible to print a paper copy of a LyX document as it appears
>> onscreen, i.e. without exporting to PDF?
>>
> Have you tried File > Print? Normally it prints the document as seen
> in LyX, and usually people complain that the output is crap while we
> point them to the PDF preview.
>
> Regards
> Liviu
>
>

When I try File > Print, I get a popup menu titled "LyX: Print
Document," with Print Destination options of Printer: and File:

The Printer field is blank, and when I choose this option, dvips
starts, saying that it's working with a .dvi file. I can't find this
dvi file or a .ps file created, so I'm not sure it is actually
created.

If I choose File, similarly dvips runs, and a ps file is created. When
I run Distiller on the .ps file, it creates a compiled pdf, which
looks just like what I get if I do File - Export - pdflatex.

Thanks.

Re: Printing a LyX file as it appears onscreen

2011-10-17 Thread David L. Johnson 

On 10/17/2011 11:27 AM, Bert Lloyd wrote:

On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 2:57 AM, Liviu Andronic  wrote:

On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 12:23 AM, Bert Lloyd  wrote:

Hello LyX users,

Is it possible to print a paper copy of a LyX document as it appears
onscreen, i.e. without exporting to PDF?


Have you tried File>  Print? Normally it prints the document as seen
in LyX, and usually people complain that the output is crap while we
point them to the PDF preview.

Regards
Liviu



When I try File>  Print, I get a popup menu titled "LyX: Print
Document," with Print Destination options of Printer: and File:

The Printer field is blank, and when I choose this option, dvips
starts, saying that it's working with a .dvi file.
Didn't LyX automatically run a configure script when it was first run?  
Maybe on Windows you don't see that.  It failed to find a printer.  But 
if you have a default printer on your computer, it should be able to 
find it.  You might try Tools>Preferences>Output>Printer to see what it 
thinks is available (it probably thinks none is), and if there is a 
problem, run Tools>Reconfigure  and see if it finds the printer.


--

David L. Johnson

You will say Christ saith this and the apostles say this; but what
canst thou say?
-- George Fox.