Re: confused about embedding fonts in a pdf

[Manveru]

2010/2/11 Richard Brown rich...@guidedelearning.com:
 (a thought strikes me: could these font errors pertain to some pdf
 files I include, which are musical scores made into a pdf by
 Sibelius?)

 I'm replying to my own post: this was indeed the case. When I removed
 the external materials, the problem went away and the printer's
 objections disappeared.
 However, this still leaves me with the problem of how to include these
 scores, which I must include. I am not competent either with musical
 notation or with the Sibelius software: the pdf files were kindly
 prepared for me by a friend from within Sibelius itself- though as is
 now apparent, without embedding the fonts.

 So the issue has become: Is there some way I can rectify this, by
 embedding the missing font in my own lyx document? IE, managing a
 missing embedding in an external file by embedding the font in the
 parent doc? Or is that unthinkable?



There are two questions that have to be answered before I can propose
a solution for you:

1. Do you want the PDF you produce only to be printed, not used in
electronic form? I mean are these texts written in musical score in
TimesNewRomanPS important and ability to copy them to clipboard or
search them in document is important, too? (no to second question may
mean yes to first)

2. Do you accept a fact that these fonts will not be embedded?

If both are true, solution is following - this is probably not uniqe
and others may advise something else:

1. Install Inkscape from www.inkscape.org.
2. Open you PDF from Sibelius in Inscape.
3. Select all.
4. Convert all texts to path - there is an option somewhere in the
menu (I do not know exact name as I have polish version)
5. Save the document as new PDF file.
6. Insert in into LyX.

Now you should have the same scores in you msth. as previously, but
there are no fonts used inside, so there should be no problem with
printing. But this is untested solution, I only describe what come to
my mind reading about your concerns.

-- 
Manveru
jabber: manv...@manveru.pl
 gg: 1624001
   http://www.manveru.pl

Re: confused about embedding fonts in a pdf

[Manveru]

2010/2/11 Richard Brown rich...@guidedelearning.com:
 (a thought strikes me: could these font errors pertain to some pdf
 files I include, which are musical scores made into a pdf by
 Sibelius?)

 I'm replying to my own post: this was indeed the case. When I removed
 the external materials, the problem went away and the printer's
 objections disappeared.
 However, this still leaves me with the problem of how to include these
 scores, which I must include. I am not competent either with musical
 notation or with the Sibelius software: the pdf files were kindly
 prepared for me by a friend from within Sibelius itself- though as is
 now apparent, without embedding the fonts.

 So the issue has become: Is there some way I can rectify this, by
 embedding the missing font in my own lyx document? IE, managing a
 missing embedding in an external file by embedding the font in the
 parent doc? Or is that unthinkable?



There are two questions that have to be answered before I can propose
a solution for you:

1. Do you want the PDF you produce only to be printed, not used in
electronic form? I mean are these texts written in musical score in
TimesNewRomanPS important and ability to copy them to clipboard or
search them in document is important, too? (no to second question may
mean yes to first)

2. Do you accept a fact that these fonts will not be embedded?

If both are true, solution is following - this is probably not uniqe
and others may advise something else:

1. Install Inkscape from www.inkscape.org.
2. Open you PDF from Sibelius in Inscape.
3. Select all.
4. Convert all texts to path - there is an option somewhere in the
menu (I do not know exact name as I have polish version)
5. Save the document as new PDF file.
6. Insert in into LyX.

Now you should have the same scores in you msth. as previously, but
there are no fonts used inside, so there should be no problem with
printing. But this is untested solution, I only describe what come to
my mind reading about your concerns.

-- 
Manveru
jabber: manv...@manveru.pl
 gg: 1624001
   http://www.manveru.pl

Re: confused about embedding fonts in a pdf

[Manveru]

2010/2/11 Richard Brown :
>> (a thought strikes me: could these font errors pertain to some pdf
>> files I include, which are musical scores made into a pdf by
>> Sibelius?)
>
> I'm replying to my own post: this was indeed the case. When I removed
> the external materials, the problem went away and the printer's
> objections disappeared.
> However, this still leaves me with the problem of how to include these
> scores, which I must include. I am not competent either with musical
> notation or with the Sibelius software: the pdf files were kindly
> prepared for me by a friend from within Sibelius itself- though as is
> now apparent, without embedding the fonts.
>
> So the issue has become: Is there some way I can rectify this, by
> embedding the missing font in my own lyx document? IE, managing a
> missing embedding in an external file by embedding the font in the
> parent doc? Or is that unthinkable?
>
>

There are two questions that have to be answered before I can propose
a solution for you:

1. Do you want the PDF you produce only to be printed, not used in
electronic form? I mean are these texts written in musical score in
TimesNewRomanPS important and ability to copy them to clipboard or
search them in document is important, too? (no to second question may
mean yes to first)

2. Do you accept a fact that these fonts will not be embedded?

If both are true, solution is following - this is probably not uniqe
and others may advise something else:

1. Install Inkscape from www.inkscape.org.
2. Open you PDF from Sibelius in Inscape.
3. Select all.
4. Convert all texts to path - there is an option somewhere in the
menu (I do not know exact name as I have polish version)
5. Save the document as new PDF file.
6. Insert in into LyX.

Now you should have the same scores in you msth. as previously, but
there are no fonts used inside, so there should be no problem with
printing. But this is untested solution, I only describe what come to
my mind reading about your concerns.

-- 
Manveru
jabber: manv...@manveru.pl
 gg: 1624001
   http://www.manveru.pl

confused about embedding fonts in a pdf

[Richard Brown]

I have to provide my ms as a pdf; I've read a lot on this list about vector
fonts etc, much of which I don't understand: but I trusted, and did it. In
documents settings  fonts I changed the values from default to Latin
Modern Roman, Latin Modern Sans and Latin Modern Typewriter. The default
family is Roman.
The printer sent the file back as incomplete, with the following message:


Your document could not be created: The TimesNewRomanPSMT font is not
embedded.
The TimesNewRomanPS-BoldMT font is not embedded.
The TimesNewRomanPS-ItalicMT font is not embedded.
The TimesNewRomanPSMT font is not embedded.


I don't understand this: surely I am using Latin Modern Roman, and it is
embedded automatically?

(a thought strikes me: could these font errors pertain to some pdf files I
include, which are musical scores made into a pdf by Sibelius?)

RE: confused about embedding fonts in a pdf

[Richard Brown]

 (a thought strikes me: could these font errors pertain to some pdf 
 files I include, which are musical scores made into a pdf by 
 Sibelius?)

I'm replying to my own post: this was indeed the case. When I removed
the external materials, the problem went away and the printer's
objections disappeared.
However, this still leaves me with the problem of how to include these
scores, which I must include. I am not competent either with musical
notation or with the Sibelius software: the pdf files were kindly
prepared for me by a friend from within Sibelius itself- though as is
now apparent, without embedding the fonts. 

So the issue has become: Is there some way I can rectify this, by
embedding the missing font in my own lyx document? IE, managing a
missing embedding in an external file by embedding the font in the
parent doc? Or is that unthinkable? 

confused about embedding fonts in a pdf

[Richard Brown]

I have to provide my ms as a pdf; I've read a lot on this list about vector
fonts etc, much of which I don't understand: but I trusted, and did it. In
documents settings  fonts I changed the values from default to Latin
Modern Roman, Latin Modern Sans and Latin Modern Typewriter. The default
family is Roman.
The printer sent the file back as incomplete, with the following message:


Your document could not be created: The TimesNewRomanPSMT font is not
embedded.
The TimesNewRomanPS-BoldMT font is not embedded.
The TimesNewRomanPS-ItalicMT font is not embedded.
The TimesNewRomanPSMT font is not embedded.


I don't understand this: surely I am using Latin Modern Roman, and it is
embedded automatically?

(a thought strikes me: could these font errors pertain to some pdf files I
include, which are musical scores made into a pdf by Sibelius?)

RE: confused about embedding fonts in a pdf

[Richard Brown]

 (a thought strikes me: could these font errors pertain to some pdf 
 files I include, which are musical scores made into a pdf by 
 Sibelius?)

I'm replying to my own post: this was indeed the case. When I removed
the external materials, the problem went away and the printer's
objections disappeared.
However, this still leaves me with the problem of how to include these
scores, which I must include. I am not competent either with musical
notation or with the Sibelius software: the pdf files were kindly
prepared for me by a friend from within Sibelius itself- though as is
now apparent, without embedding the fonts. 

So the issue has become: Is there some way I can rectify this, by
embedding the missing font in my own lyx document? IE, managing a
missing embedding in an external file by embedding the font in the
parent doc? Or is that unthinkable? 

confused about embedding fonts in a pdf

[Richard Brown]

I have to provide my ms as a pdf; I've read a lot on this list about vector
fonts etc, much of which I don't understand: but I trusted, and did it. In
documents >settings > fonts I changed the values from default to Latin
Modern Roman, Latin Modern Sans and Latin Modern Typewriter. The default
family is Roman.
The printer sent the file back as incomplete, with the following message:


Your document could not be created: The TimesNewRomanPSMT font is not
embedded.
The TimesNewRomanPS-BoldMT font is not embedded.
The TimesNewRomanPS-ItalicMT font is not embedded.
The TimesNewRomanPSMT font is not embedded.


I don't understand this: surely I am using Latin Modern Roman, and it is
embedded automatically?

(a thought strikes me: could these font errors pertain to some pdf files I
include, which are musical scores made into a pdf by Sibelius?)

RE: confused about embedding fonts in a pdf

[Richard Brown]

> (a thought strikes me: could these font errors pertain to some pdf 
> files I include, which are musical scores made into a pdf by 
> Sibelius?)

I'm replying to my own post: this was indeed the case. When I removed
the external materials, the problem went away and the printer's
objections disappeared.
However, this still leaves me with the problem of how to include these
scores, which I must include. I am not competent either with musical
notation or with the Sibelius software: the pdf files were kindly
prepared for me by a friend from within Sibelius itself- though as is
now apparent, without embedding the fonts. 

So the issue has become: Is there some way I can rectify this, by
embedding the missing font in my own lyx document? IE, managing a
missing embedding in an external file by embedding the font in the
parent doc? Or is that unthinkable?