Re: how to change GUI Language

2010-11-04 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Am 04.11.2010 09:59, schrieb Christian del Castillo:


1) using the version I installed last time from here:
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/bin/1.6.7/LyX-1.6.7-4-Installer.exe
I still do not get to choose a GUI/ install language, and in the end my
LyX was (automatically) in Japanese, again.


This is important to know! I wasn't aware of that because I use this 
installer only seldom. Can you please report this issue at our bug 
tracker so that this can be fixed?:

http://www.lyx.org/trac/wiki/BugTrackerHome


2) using the version you suggested to me (your version) which I
downloaded from here:
http://prdownload.berlios.de/lyxwininstall/LyX-167-4-25-AltInstaller-Complete.exe
I do get a choice to my preferred language, and in the end, the LyX
started up in the language of my choice.


Perfect!


I think your installer is definitely better than the other one I used.


In this case yes, but in general it is a matter of taste.
The main reason I provide an alternative installer is that the author of 
the official can often not be informed about bugs via email.
In general my installer contains some extra-features compared to the 
official LyX installer:

http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyXWinInstaller#detailed-comparison

(I know that having two installers for one program is confusing but I 
still don't see a way to improve the situation.)


regards Uwe


Re: how to change GUI Language

2010-11-04 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Am 04.11.2010 09:59, schrieb Christian del Castillo:


1) using the version I installed last time from here:
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/bin/1.6.7/LyX-1.6.7-4-Installer.exe
I still do not get to choose a GUI/ install language, and in the end my
LyX was (automatically) in Japanese, again.


This is important to know! I wasn't aware of that because I use this 
installer only seldom. Can you please report this issue at our bug 
tracker so that this can be fixed?:

http://www.lyx.org/trac/wiki/BugTrackerHome


2) using the version you suggested to me (your version) which I
downloaded from here:
http://prdownload.berlios.de/lyxwininstall/LyX-167-4-25-AltInstaller-Complete.exe
I do get a choice to my preferred language, and in the end, the LyX
started up in the language of my choice.


Perfect!


I think your installer is definitely better than the other one I used.


In this case yes, but in general it is a matter of taste.
The main reason I provide an alternative installer is that the author of 
the official can often not be informed about bugs via email.
In general my installer contains some extra-features compared to the 
official LyX installer:

http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyXWinInstaller#detailed-comparison

(I know that having two installers for one program is confusing but I 
still don't see a way to improve the situation.)


regards Uwe


Re: how to change GUI Language

2010-10-30 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Am 30.10.2010 03:18, schrieb Christian del Castillo:


LyX installer is in English


Good.


I do not recall being given the chance to choose my GUI language.


The installer asks you about this in a separate step, so you must be able t do 
this.


Here are
the steps that I get until 'Install'.
This instance is for a machine that already has LyX installed, so are
actually  'reinstall' steps.
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/2783/installationsteps.jpg


This link is dead.


If you want me to uninstall and reinstall LyX from start to end, I might be
able to find the time to do so sometime late next week.


Yes, please try so, but uninstall LyX _completely_ and then try out my alternative LyX for Windows 
installer:

http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyXWinInstaller

regards Uwe


Re: how to change GUI Language

2010-10-29 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Am 29.10.2010 08:51, schrieb Christian del Castillo:


Since the GUI is in a language that the user cannot understand in the
first place, even if someone told the user to go to
tools->preferences->language settings, he wouldn't know where the
'tools' menu is, where the 'preferences' option is, etc since it's all
just gibberish to him.


I don't understand why this happens to you, because the LyX for Windows 
installer is in English, right?
You can choose the GUI language of LyX in the installer. So when 
installing LyX on my German Windows and select French as GUI language in 
the installer, I get LyX with French menus as expected.


regards Uwe


Re: how to change GUI Language

2010-10-28 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Am 29.10.2010 03:17, schrieb Christian del Castillo:


I was also going to the mail archive, and the way I understandit is that LyX
will detect the system language and adjust GUI accordingly, however in my
case, the system language was in English, my IP address Korean, the only
Japanese setting I had was in 'Language to display non-unicode characters'
in. So, why did the installer decide on Japanese in the first place?


The detection of the system language is not always correct. This depends on the OS. On Windows it 
should work because this OS uses a special code for the system language that the LyX installers can 
read from the registry. Besides this the LyX for Winows installers will ask you what GUI language 
you want to use.


In general you can change LyX's GUI language at any time in the LyX preferences.

In your case the problem is that the Korean GUI translation is incomplete and thus by default 
disabled. So you should intrinsically get an English GUI instead of Japanese.

(These are the GUI languages LyX supports: http://www.lyx.org/I18n )


-Problem 1) I am working in South Korea, I have language sets for my PC set
to enable both Korean and Japanese, but why did the install package choose
to be in Japanese? what would happen if I am Korean, for example, with
absolutely no knowledge of Japanese?


What is your OS? I cannot reproduce your problems using my alternative LyX for 
Windows installer.

regards Uwe


how to change GUI Language

2010-10-28 Thread Christian del Castillo
This is a post I made at the LaTex forum, fortunately for me the issue was
addressed and solved by a kind user showing a picture of how the menu should
look like in English, from there I was able to GUESSTIMATE which menu
entries I should be manipulating, despite not completely understanding the
language my GUI was in.

I was also going to the mail archive, and the way I understandit is that LyX
will detect the system language and adjust GUI accordingly, however in my
case, the system language was in English, my IP address Korean, the only
Japanese setting I had was in 'Language to display non-unicode characters'
in. So, why did the installer decide on Japanese in the first place?

here is a link to my post on the LaTex forum:
http://www.latex-community.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=10613&p=41052#p41052

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I think this is a very major issue, as it can affect first time users, and
turn them off completely from the software if not addressed.
This is my first time to try LyX. I installed the package, and while doing
so was not given any option regarding the GUI language. After finally
completing the installation, Voila! the GUI was in JAPANESE!

-Problem 1) I am working in South Korea, I have language sets for my PC set
to enable both Korean and Japanese, but why did the install package choose
to be in Japanese? what would happen if I am Korean, for example, with
absolutely no knowledge of Japanese?
-Problem 2) I can speak, read, and write a LITTLE Japanese, but not that
much. If anybody will give me instructions on how to change the GUI language
I might have trouble looking for the relevant menu entry. If, for some
reason or another the GUI language became Korean, for example, I would have
absolutely no way of being able to look for the menu entry

So I suggest the ff:

Suggestion 1) Give the user the ability to CHOOSE preferred language on
install REGARDLESS of IP address (or whatever method was used to choose GUI
in my current situation)!
Suggestion 2) Make the menu entry to change the GUI language EASY TO FIND
and also IN A LANGUAGE DIFFERENT FROM THE CURRENT GUI, a lot of people would
want to change the GUI because they do not have enough ability in the
language in the first place.

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Chris del Castillo, PhD
Gyeongsang National University
South Korea