Re: libforms (see also Help! from Wahyu Nugroho)

2001-03-22 Thread George De Bruin

On Wednesday 21 March 2001 h:m:s, you wrote:

 the problem of  Wahyu Nugroho is even worse with Mandrake. After eventually
 finding a LyX rpm for Mandrake, the installation needed xforms, but
 Mandrake provides no xforms. Therefore I installed one from SuSE. After
 installing LyX, starting LyX complained about not finding libforms.0.89
 although it was on the system. So I tried Murilo Juchem's hint (Re: need
 quick help). But that didn't help either, because libforms.0.89 was not in
 /X11/... but in .../X11R6/... . Eventually I got LyX started. This all
 shows, that LyX itself should find libforms.0.8x.

Ummm, sorry for being a bit behind on this one, but what version of Mandrake 
is being referred to here?  If it is Mandrake 7.2 I managed to get it 
working...without the major procedure listed above.  Here's a message that I 
posted in a newsgroup about getting it working...  The message is a bit long 
winded, but explains the whole process I went through and how I tracked down 
the problem...  If anyone has anything to add, or anything that I did wrong 
in getting it working, please let me know...

---

I think I solved this issue the other night...  At least something that 
worked for me

I needed to install the new version of LyX (1.1.6Fix1), which Mandrake has 
in the cooker.  But, when I went to install it, it said that it needed the 
newer libstdc++, so I downloaded and installed it.  However, that started 
breaking every application left and right.

Finally, I was going to uninstall it, so I went out to a console and wanted 
to run man on rpm...  Well, an error popped up stating that it couldn't 
call libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3.  So, I looked in /usr/lib and found the 
following (note - I chopped off the beginning of the lines to make them 
format nicely): 

24 Mar  4 01:28 libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 - libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3*
30 Mar  4 01:28 libstdc++-libc6.2-2.a.3 - libstdc++-3-libc6.2-2-2.10.0.a
31 Mar  4 01:28 libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 - libstdc++-3-libc6.2-2-2.10.0.so*

Well, seeing as there was an entry for libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2, and the 
entry for libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 I surmised that a similar link was 
needed for libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3.  So, I created the following link:

31 Mar  4 01:51 libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3 - libstdc++-3-libc6.2-2-2.10.0.so*

Now, I probably really should have pointed this to libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 
instead of directly to the libstdc++-3-libc6.2-2-2.10.0.so target, however 
it did solve the problem.  All of my applications are still working, and I 
have my updated LyX installation (that was sorely needed...), and I haven't 
seen any problems since creating this link.

Now, in case you're wondering: this happened last Saturday, so my system 
has been up and running for a week with this link installed.  Now maybe I 
can get a little more ambitious and update a few other apps from the Cooker 
code...(assuming I don't run into any other major dependency problems).

---

Now: this has actually been 3 or 4 weeks ago that I went through the original 
situation.  I haven't had any problems since then, so I think I am fairly 
safe to say that things are working just fine...  It sounds like you just 
need to use the copy of LyX that Mandrake has in the Cooker, assuming that 
the distro is 7.2.

// George



Re: libforms (see also Help! from Wahyu Nugroho)

2001-03-22 Thread George De Bruin

On Wednesday 21 March 2001 h:m:s, you wrote:

 the problem of  Wahyu Nugroho is even worse with Mandrake. After eventually
 finding a LyX rpm for Mandrake, the installation needed xforms, but
 Mandrake provides no xforms. Therefore I installed one from SuSE. After
 installing LyX, starting LyX complained about not finding libforms.0.89
 although it was on the system. So I tried Murilo Juchem's hint (Re: need
 quick help). But that didn't help either, because libforms.0.89 was not in
 /X11/... but in .../X11R6/... . Eventually I got LyX started. This all
 shows, that LyX itself should find libforms.0.8x.

Ummm, sorry for being a bit behind on this one, but what version of Mandrake 
is being referred to here?  If it is Mandrake 7.2 I managed to get it 
working...without the major procedure listed above.  Here's a message that I 
posted in a newsgroup about getting it working...  The message is a bit long 
winded, but explains the whole process I went through and how I tracked down 
the problem...  If anyone has anything to add, or anything that I did wrong 
in getting it working, please let me know...

---

I think I solved this issue the other night...  At least something that 
worked for me

I needed to install the new version of LyX (1.1.6Fix1), which Mandrake has 
in the cooker.  But, when I went to install it, it said that it needed the 
newer libstdc++, so I downloaded and installed it.  However, that started 
breaking every application left and right.

Finally, I was going to uninstall it, so I went out to a console and wanted 
to run man on rpm...  Well, an error popped up stating that it couldn't 
call libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3.  So, I looked in /usr/lib and found the 
following (note - I chopped off the beginning of the lines to make them 
format nicely): 

24 Mar  4 01:28 libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 - libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3*
30 Mar  4 01:28 libstdc++-libc6.2-2.a.3 - libstdc++-3-libc6.2-2-2.10.0.a
31 Mar  4 01:28 libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 - libstdc++-3-libc6.2-2-2.10.0.so*

Well, seeing as there was an entry for libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2, and the 
entry for libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 I surmised that a similar link was 
needed for libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3.  So, I created the following link:

31 Mar  4 01:51 libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3 - libstdc++-3-libc6.2-2-2.10.0.so*

Now, I probably really should have pointed this to libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 
instead of directly to the libstdc++-3-libc6.2-2-2.10.0.so target, however 
it did solve the problem.  All of my applications are still working, and I 
have my updated LyX installation (that was sorely needed...), and I haven't 
seen any problems since creating this link.

Now, in case you're wondering: this happened last Saturday, so my system 
has been up and running for a week with this link installed.  Now maybe I 
can get a little more ambitious and update a few other apps from the Cooker 
code...(assuming I don't run into any other major dependency problems).

---

Now: this has actually been 3 or 4 weeks ago that I went through the original 
situation.  I haven't had any problems since then, so I think I am fairly 
safe to say that things are working just fine...  It sounds like you just 
need to use the copy of LyX that Mandrake has in the Cooker, assuming that 
the distro is 7.2.

// George



Re: libforms (see also Help! from Wahyu Nugroho)

2001-03-22 Thread George De Bruin

On Wednesday 21 March 2001 h:m:s, you wrote:

> the problem of  Wahyu Nugroho is even worse with Mandrake. After eventually
> finding a LyX rpm for Mandrake, the installation needed xforms, but
> Mandrake provides no xforms. Therefore I installed one from SuSE. After
> installing LyX, starting LyX complained about not finding libforms.0.89
> although it was on the system. So I tried Murilo Juchem's hint (Re: need
> quick help). But that didn't help either, because libforms.0.89 was not in
> /X11/... but in .../X11R6/... . Eventually I got LyX started. This all
> shows, that LyX itself should find libforms.0.8x.

Ummm, sorry for being a bit behind on this one, but what version of Mandrake 
is being referred to here?  If it is Mandrake 7.2 I managed to get it 
working...without the major procedure listed above.  Here's a message that I 
posted in a newsgroup about getting it working...  The message is a bit long 
winded, but explains the whole process I went through and how I tracked down 
the problem...  If anyone has anything to add, or anything that I did wrong 
in getting it working, please let me know...

---

I think I solved this issue the other night...  At least something that 
worked for me

I needed to install the new version of LyX (1.1.6Fix1), which Mandrake has 
in the cooker.  But, when I went to install it, it said that it needed the 
newer libstdc++, so I downloaded and installed it.  However, that started 
breaking every application left and right.

Finally, I was going to uninstall it, so I went out to a console and wanted 
to run man on rpm...  Well, an error popped up stating that it couldn't 
call libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3.  So, I looked in /usr/lib and found the 
following (note - I chopped off the beginning of the lines to make them 
format nicely): 

24 Mar  4 01:28 libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 -> libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3*
30 Mar  4 01:28 libstdc++-libc6.2-2.a.3 -> libstdc++-3-libc6.2-2-2.10.0.a
31 Mar  4 01:28 libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 -> libstdc++-3-libc6.2-2-2.10.0.so*

Well, seeing as there was an entry for libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2, and the 
entry for libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 I surmised that a similar link was 
needed for libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3.  So, I created the following link:

31 Mar  4 01:51 libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3 -> libstdc++-3-libc6.2-2-2.10.0.so*

Now, I probably really should have pointed this to libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 
instead of directly to the libstdc++-3-libc6.2-2-2.10.0.so target, however 
it did solve the problem.  All of my applications are still working, and I 
have my updated LyX installation (that was sorely needed...), and I haven't 
seen any problems since creating this link.

Now, in case you're wondering: this happened last Saturday, so my system 
has been up and running for a week with this link installed.  Now maybe I 
can get a little more ambitious and update a few other apps from the Cooker 
code...(assuming I don't run into any other major dependency problems).

---

Now: this has actually been 3 or 4 weeks ago that I went through the original 
situation.  I haven't had any problems since then, so I think I am fairly 
safe to say that things are working just fine...  It sounds like you just 
need to use the copy of LyX that Mandrake has in the Cooker, assuming that 
the distro is 7.2.

// George



libforms (see also Help! from Wahyu Nugroho)

2001-03-21 Thread Haase . Hartmut

Hi there,
the problem of  Wahyu Nugroho is even worse with Mandrake. After eventually
finding a LyX rpm for Mandrake, the installation needed xforms, but
Mandrake provides no xforms. Therefore I installed one from SuSE. After
installing LyX, starting LyX complained about not finding libforms.0.89
although it was on the system. So I tried Murilo Juchem's hint (Re: need
quick help). But that didn't help either, because libforms.0.89 was not in
.../X11/... but in .../X11R6/... . Eventually I got LyX started. This all
shows, that LyX itself should find libforms.0.8x.
Regards
Hartmut Haase


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Re: libforms (see also Help! from Wahyu Nugroho)

2001-03-21 Thread Allan Rae

On Wed, 21 Mar 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi there,
 the problem of  Wahyu Nugroho is even worse with Mandrake. After eventually
 finding a LyX rpm for Mandrake, the installation needed xforms, but
 Mandrake provides no xforms. Therefore I installed one from SuSE. After
 installing LyX, starting LyX complained about not finding libforms.0.89
 although it was on the system. So I tried Murilo Juchem's hint (Re: need
 quick help). But that didn't help either, because libforms.0.89 was not in
 .../X11/... but in .../X11R6/... . Eventually I got LyX started. This all
 shows, that LyX itself should find libforms.0.8x.

It also shows that different distributions have different ideas about how
to name their directory structures.

For Red Hat and Mandrake and other Red-Hat derived distros you should use
the xforms rpm from ftp.sylvan.com/pub/lyx.  This is known to work on
these distros.  Also be aware that SuSE is _not_ derived from Red Hat so
it not only has a different naming convention for all its rpms it also has
a different priority for compliance with the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard
(or whatever it's called these days). As a result mixing rpms to/from SuSE
can cause problems such as you describe.

Allan. (ARRae)




libforms (see also Help! from Wahyu Nugroho)

2001-03-21 Thread Haase . Hartmut

Hi there,
the problem of  Wahyu Nugroho is even worse with Mandrake. After eventually
finding a LyX rpm for Mandrake, the installation needed xforms, but
Mandrake provides no xforms. Therefore I installed one from SuSE. After
installing LyX, starting LyX complained about not finding libforms.0.89
although it was on the system. So I tried Murilo Juchem's hint (Re: need
quick help). But that didn't help either, because libforms.0.89 was not in
.../X11/... but in .../X11R6/... . Eventually I got LyX started. This all
shows, that LyX itself should find libforms.0.8x.
Regards
Hartmut Haase


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Re: libforms (see also Help! from Wahyu Nugroho)

2001-03-21 Thread Allan Rae

On Wed, 21 Mar 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi there,
 the problem of  Wahyu Nugroho is even worse with Mandrake. After eventually
 finding a LyX rpm for Mandrake, the installation needed xforms, but
 Mandrake provides no xforms. Therefore I installed one from SuSE. After
 installing LyX, starting LyX complained about not finding libforms.0.89
 although it was on the system. So I tried Murilo Juchem's hint (Re: need
 quick help). But that didn't help either, because libforms.0.89 was not in
 .../X11/... but in .../X11R6/... . Eventually I got LyX started. This all
 shows, that LyX itself should find libforms.0.8x.

It also shows that different distributions have different ideas about how
to name their directory structures.

For Red Hat and Mandrake and other Red-Hat derived distros you should use
the xforms rpm from ftp.sylvan.com/pub/lyx.  This is known to work on
these distros.  Also be aware that SuSE is _not_ derived from Red Hat so
it not only has a different naming convention for all its rpms it also has
a different priority for compliance with the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard
(or whatever it's called these days). As a result mixing rpms to/from SuSE
can cause problems such as you describe.

Allan. (ARRae)




libforms (see also Help! from Wahyu Nugroho)

2001-03-21 Thread Haase . Hartmut

Hi there,
the problem of  Wahyu Nugroho is even worse with Mandrake. After eventually
finding a LyX rpm for Mandrake, the installation needed xforms, but
Mandrake provides no xforms. Therefore I installed one from SuSE. After
installing LyX, starting LyX complained about not finding libforms.0.89
although it was on the system. So I tried Murilo Juchem's hint (Re: need
quick help). But that didn't help either, because libforms.0.89 was not in
.../X11/... but in .../X11R6/... . Eventually I got LyX started. This all
shows, that LyX itself should find libforms.0.8x.
Regards
Hartmut Haase


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Re: libforms (see also Help! from Wahyu Nugroho)

2001-03-21 Thread Allan Rae

On Wed, 21 Mar 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi there,
> the problem of  Wahyu Nugroho is even worse with Mandrake. After eventually
> finding a LyX rpm for Mandrake, the installation needed xforms, but
> Mandrake provides no xforms. Therefore I installed one from SuSE. After
> installing LyX, starting LyX complained about not finding libforms.0.89
> although it was on the system. So I tried Murilo Juchem's hint (Re: need
> quick help). But that didn't help either, because libforms.0.89 was not in
> .../X11/... but in .../X11R6/... . Eventually I got LyX started. This all
> shows, that LyX itself should find libforms.0.8x.

It also shows that different distributions have different ideas about how
to name their directory structures.

For Red Hat and Mandrake and other Red-Hat derived distros you should use
the xforms rpm from ftp.sylvan.com/pub/lyx.  This is known to work on
these distros.  Also be aware that SuSE is _not_ derived from Red Hat so
it not only has a different naming convention for all its rpms it also has
a different priority for compliance with the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard
(or whatever it's called these days). As a result mixing rpms to/from SuSE
can cause problems such as you describe.

Allan. (ARRae)