Re: writing Linux HOTWOs, is LyX ready?
On Sat, Oct 30, 1999 at 11:59:01AM +0200, Friedemann Baitinger wrote: since I've been using LyX now for a couple of papers and larger documents I thought I'd use LyX to update an old Linux Mini-HOWTO but to no luck yet. Hi, I am using LyX-1.1.1 (compiles now after updating gcc to egcs). Since Linux HOWTOs are expected to be submitted as SGML files I thought I'd use the Docbook class and then export to SGML, however, I have the following problems: 1) I haven't found a way to include code like in 'LyX-Code'. The 'LyX-Code' doesn't seem to be available in docbook, it is greyed out in the pull down. When I use 'Meta-p c' I end up in 'NLyX-Code' which happens to behave different (in my opinion not as good) than LyX-Code. The problem I have with NLyX-Code is that it messes with the line breaks. It actually joins lines where I need empty lines. (BTW: 'NLyX-Code' is also not available as a selection out of the pull down. It only works as a meta-p shortcut). My expectation was that I could switch to LyX-Code mode and then cut/paste some screen output directly from an xterm into LyX and preserve the line breaks -- That doesn't seem to work though. The correct layout to insert code is Code. :-) I inserted LyX-Code only for compatibility all those layouts will be converted to Code, if you import them... Regarding your choice, NLyX-Code, I think that this is a bug. Even if the layout isn't available throught the menu, the shortcut calls it. Any thoughts J-M or others? Regarding the importing of ascaii text you can always import it directly as lines, look for Insert-Ascii file as - Lines. Tell me if this doesn't work 2) I can't find any sgmltools setup which would be able to cleanly process the LyX exported SGML into HTML. I have tried the sgmltools and jade packages from the SuSE 6.1 distribution as well as various versions of those tools which I downloaded from the Internet. The right sgmltools to be used directly is sgmltools v2.3, That is only available as a cvs version for now. What were your problems? I have some suspects, that could help you... I will now send a test version of the LyX exported SGML to the maintainers of the Linux-HOTWO database and see whether those experts can produce HTML out of it. Any hints/suggestions are welcome. Any Linux-HOWTO Authors hanging out there who have successfully used LyX to author Linux-HOWTOs? -- Friedemann Baitinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://baiti.net/fb Best regards, -- José
Re: writing Linux HOTWOs, is LyX ready?
On Sat, Oct 30, 1999 at 09:33:58PM +0200, jdd wrote: On sam, 30 oct 1999, Friedemann Baitinger à écrit since I've been using LyX now for a couple of papers and larger documents I thought I'd use LyX to update an old Linux Mini-HOWTO but to no luck yet. I have no answer, but I'm usind linuxdoc/sgml with lyx extensively and I wait swapping to docbook because I'm unsure of the way it will handle such doc. so I'm very interested by the answer. Is docbook usable for sgml/html documentation use? is docbook compatable with old sgml/linuxdoc? the answer is not evident in the doc. Thanks. Supposing this was a FAQ from linuxdoc to docbook migration ;) The main concern should be to change the header to the new format. The name layout in docbook is different (that is docbook dtd related). Also delete any toc appearing in the document, they are now tretead differently from linuxdoc. See the header in the docbook lyx template file. See also the docbook example file... -- Linux hp-41 APTEP SF http://perso.club-internet.fr/jdanield [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- José
Re: writing Linux HOTWOs, is LyX ready?
On Wed, Nov 03, 1999 at 09:28:23AM +, Jose Abilio Oliveira Matos wrote: The right sgmltools to be used directly is sgmltools v2.3, That is only available as a cvs version for now. From what CVS repository? Can you give me directions to get this? I can probably create some RPMS of this for others' convenience. -- Kayvan Aghaiepour Sylvan | Proud husband of | Father to my kids: Sylvan Associates, Inc. | Laura Isabella Sylvan | Katherine Yelena (8/8/89) http://sylvan.com/~kayvan | | Robin Gregory (2/28/92)
Re: writing Linux HOTWOs, is LyX ready?
On Sat, Oct 30, 1999 at 11:59:01AM +0200, Friedemann Baitinger wrote: since I've been using LyX now for a couple of papers and larger documents I thought I'd use LyX to update an old Linux Mini-HOWTO but to no luck yet. Hi, I am using LyX-1.1.1 (compiles now after updating gcc to egcs). Since Linux HOWTOs are expected to be submitted as SGML files I thought I'd use the Docbook class and then export to SGML, however, I have the following problems: 1) I haven't found a way to include code like in 'LyX-Code'. The 'LyX-Code' doesn't seem to be available in docbook, it is greyed out in the pull down. When I use 'Meta-p c' I end up in 'NLyX-Code' which happens to behave different (in my opinion not as good) than LyX-Code. The problem I have with NLyX-Code is that it messes with the line breaks. It actually joins lines where I need empty lines. (BTW: 'NLyX-Code' is also not available as a selection out of the pull down. It only works as a meta-p shortcut). My expectation was that I could switch to LyX-Code mode and then cut/paste some screen output directly from an xterm into LyX and preserve the line breaks -- That doesn't seem to work though. The correct layout to insert code is Code. :-) I inserted LyX-Code only for compatibility all those layouts will be converted to Code, if you import them... Regarding your choice, NLyX-Code, I think that this is a bug. Even if the layout isn't available throught the menu, the shortcut calls it. Any thoughts J-M or others? Regarding the importing of ascaii text you can always import it directly as lines, look for Insert-Ascii file as - Lines. Tell me if this doesn't work 2) I can't find any sgmltools setup which would be able to cleanly process the LyX exported SGML into HTML. I have tried the sgmltools and jade packages from the SuSE 6.1 distribution as well as various versions of those tools which I downloaded from the Internet. The right sgmltools to be used directly is sgmltools v2.3, That is only available as a cvs version for now. What were your problems? I have some suspects, that could help you... I will now send a test version of the LyX exported SGML to the maintainers of the Linux-HOTWO database and see whether those experts can produce HTML out of it. Any hints/suggestions are welcome. Any Linux-HOWTO Authors hanging out there who have successfully used LyX to author Linux-HOWTOs? -- Friedemann Baitinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://baiti.net/fb Best regards, -- José
Re: writing Linux HOTWOs, is LyX ready?
On Sat, Oct 30, 1999 at 09:33:58PM +0200, jdd wrote: On sam, 30 oct 1999, Friedemann Baitinger à écrit since I've been using LyX now for a couple of papers and larger documents I thought I'd use LyX to update an old Linux Mini-HOWTO but to no luck yet. I have no answer, but I'm usind linuxdoc/sgml with lyx extensively and I wait swapping to docbook because I'm unsure of the way it will handle such doc. so I'm very interested by the answer. Is docbook usable for sgml/html documentation use? is docbook compatable with old sgml/linuxdoc? the answer is not evident in the doc. Thanks. Supposing this was a FAQ from linuxdoc to docbook migration ;) The main concern should be to change the header to the new format. The name layout in docbook is different (that is docbook dtd related). Also delete any toc appearing in the document, they are now tretead differently from linuxdoc. See the header in the docbook lyx template file. See also the docbook example file... -- Linux hp-41 APTEP SF http://perso.club-internet.fr/jdanield [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- José
Re: writing Linux HOTWOs, is LyX ready?
On Wed, Nov 03, 1999 at 09:28:23AM +, Jose Abilio Oliveira Matos wrote: The right sgmltools to be used directly is sgmltools v2.3, That is only available as a cvs version for now. From what CVS repository? Can you give me directions to get this? I can probably create some RPMS of this for others' convenience. -- Kayvan Aghaiepour Sylvan | Proud husband of | Father to my kids: Sylvan Associates, Inc. | Laura Isabella Sylvan | Katherine Yelena (8/8/89) http://sylvan.com/~kayvan | | Robin Gregory (2/28/92)
Re: writing Linux HOTWOs, is LyX ready?
On Sat, Oct 30, 1999 at 11:59:01AM +0200, Friedemann Baitinger wrote: > since I've been using LyX now for a couple of papers and larger > documents I thought I'd use LyX to update an old Linux Mini-HOWTO but to > no luck yet. Hi, > I am using LyX-1.1.1 (compiles now after updating gcc to egcs). Since > Linux HOWTOs are expected to be submitted as SGML files I thought I'd > use the Docbook class and then export to SGML, however, I have the > following problems: > 1) I haven't found a way to include code like in 'LyX-Code'. The > 'LyX-Code' doesn't seem to be available in docbook, it is greyed out > in the pull down. When I use 'Meta-p c' I end up in 'NLyX-Code' > which happens to behave different (in my opinion not as good) than > LyX-Code. The problem I have with NLyX-Code is that it messes with > the line breaks. It actually joins lines where I need empty lines. > (BTW: 'NLyX-Code' is also not available as a selection out of the > pull down. It only works as a meta-p shortcut). My expectation was > that I could switch to LyX-Code mode and then cut/paste some screen > output directly from an xterm into LyX and preserve the line > breaks -- That doesn't seem to work though. The correct layout to insert code is Code. :-) I inserted LyX-Code only for compatibility all those layouts will be converted to Code, if you import them... Regarding your choice, NLyX-Code, I think that this is a bug. Even if the layout isn't available throught the menu, the shortcut calls it. Any thoughts J-M or others? Regarding the importing of ascaii text you can always import it directly as lines, look for Insert->Ascii file as -> Lines. Tell me if this doesn't work > 2) I can't find any sgmltools setup which would be able to cleanly > process the LyX exported SGML into HTML. I have tried the sgmltools > and jade packages from the SuSE 6.1 distribution as well as various > versions of those tools which I downloaded from the Internet. The right sgmltools to be used directly is sgmltools v2.3, That is only available as a cvs version for now. What were your problems? I have some suspects, that could help you... > I will now send a test version of the LyX exported SGML to the > maintainers of the Linux-HOTWO database and see whether those experts > can produce HTML out of it. > > Any hints/suggestions are welcome. Any Linux-HOWTO Authors hanging out > there who have successfully used LyX to author Linux-HOWTOs? > -- > Friedemann Baitinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://baiti.net/fb Best regards, -- José
Re: writing Linux HOTWOs, is LyX ready?
On Sat, Oct 30, 1999 at 09:33:58PM +0200, jdd wrote: > On sam, 30 oct 1999, Friedemann Baitinger à écrit > >since I've been using LyX now for a couple of papers and larger > >documents I thought I'd use LyX to update an old Linux Mini-HOWTO but to > >no luck yet. > > I have no answer, but I'm usind linuxdoc/sgml with lyx extensively and I > wait swapping to docbook because I'm unsure of the way it will handle such > doc. > > so I'm very interested by the answer. Is docbook usable for sgml/html > documentation use? is docbook compatable with old sgml/linuxdoc? the > answer is not evident in the doc. Thanks. Supposing this was a FAQ from linuxdoc to docbook migration ;) The main concern should be to change the header to the new format. The name layout in docbook is different (that is docbook dtd related). Also delete any toc appearing in the document, they are now tretead differently from linuxdoc. See the header in the docbook lyx template file. See also the docbook example file... > -- > Linux hp-41 APTEP SF > http://perso.club-internet.fr/jdanield > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- José
Re: writing Linux HOTWOs, is LyX ready?
On Wed, Nov 03, 1999 at 09:28:23AM +, Jose Abilio Oliveira Matos wrote: > The right sgmltools to be used directly is sgmltools v2.3, That is only > available as a cvs version for now. >From what CVS repository? Can you give me directions to get this? I can probably create some RPMS of this for others' convenience. -- Kayvan Aghaiepour Sylvan | Proud husband of | Father to my kids: Sylvan Associates, Inc. | Laura Isabella Sylvan | Katherine Yelena (8/8/89) http://sylvan.com/~kayvan | | Robin Gregory (2/28/92)
Re: writing Linux HOTWOs, is LyX ready?
On sam, 30 oct 1999, Friedemann Baitinger à écrit since I've been using LyX now for a couple of papers and larger documents I thought I'd use LyX to update an old Linux Mini-HOWTO but to no luck yet. I have no answer, but I'm usind linuxdoc/sgml with lyx extensively and I wait swapping to docbook because I'm unsure of the way it will handle such doc. so I'm very interested by the answer. Is docbook usable for sgml/html documentation use? is docbook compatable with old sgml/linuxdoc? the answer is not evident in the doc. Thanks. -- Linux hp-41 APTEP SF http://perso.club-internet.fr/jdanield [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: writing Linux HOTWOs, is LyX ready?
On sam, 30 oct 1999, Friedemann Baitinger à écrit since I've been using LyX now for a couple of papers and larger documents I thought I'd use LyX to update an old Linux Mini-HOWTO but to no luck yet. I have no answer, but I'm usind linuxdoc/sgml with lyx extensively and I wait swapping to docbook because I'm unsure of the way it will handle such doc. so I'm very interested by the answer. Is docbook usable for sgml/html documentation use? is docbook compatable with old sgml/linuxdoc? the answer is not evident in the doc. Thanks. -- Linux hp-41 APTEP SF http://perso.club-internet.fr/jdanield [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: writing Linux HOTWOs, is LyX ready?
On sam, 30 oct 1999, Friedemann Baitinger à écrit >since I've been using LyX now for a couple of papers and larger >documents I thought I'd use LyX to update an old Linux Mini-HOWTO but to >no luck yet. I have no answer, but I'm usind linuxdoc/sgml with lyx extensively and I wait swapping to docbook because I'm unsure of the way it will handle such doc. so I'm very interested by the answer. Is docbook usable for sgml/html documentation use? is docbook compatable with old sgml/linuxdoc? the answer is not evident in the doc. Thanks. -- Linux hp-41 APTEP SF http://perso.club-internet.fr/jdanield [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: writing Linux HOTWOs, is LyX ready?
"Jose" == Jose Abilio Oliveira Matos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jose The correct layout to insert code is Code. :-) I inserted Jose LyX-Code only for compatibility all those layouts will be Jose converted to Code, if you import them... Jose Regarding your choice, NLyX-Code, I think that this is a bug. Jose Even if the layout isn't available throught the menu, the Jose shortcut calls it. Any thoughts J-M or others? I think it is fixed in latest cvs. Please ask again if it does not work in next version. JMarc
Re: writing Linux HOTWOs, is LyX ready?
"Jose" == Jose Abilio Oliveira Matos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jose The correct layout to insert code is Code. :-) I inserted Jose LyX-Code only for compatibility all those layouts will be Jose converted to Code, if you import them... Jose Regarding your choice, NLyX-Code, I think that this is a bug. Jose Even if the layout isn't available throught the menu, the Jose shortcut calls it. Any thoughts J-M or others? I think it is fixed in latest cvs. Please ask again if it does not work in next version. JMarc
Re: writing Linux HOTWOs, is LyX ready?
> "Jose" == Jose Abilio Oliveira Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Jose> The correct layout to insert code is Code. :-) I inserted Jose> LyX-Code only for compatibility all those layouts will be Jose> converted to Code, if you import them... Jose> Regarding your choice, NLyX-Code, I think that this is a bug. Jose> Even if the layout isn't available throught the menu, the Jose> shortcut calls it. Any thoughts J-M or others? I think it is fixed in latest cvs. Please ask again if it does not work in next version. JMarc
Re: writing Linux HOTWOs, is LyX ready?
On Wed, Nov 03, 1999 at 08:37:52AM -0800, Kayvan A. Sylvan wrote: On Wed, Nov 03, 1999 at 09:28:23AM +, Jose Abilio Oliveira Matos wrote: The right sgmltools to be used directly is sgmltools v2.3, That is only available as a cvs version for now. Hello :) you can look at http://www.sgmltools.org/download.html There is already one rpm source an binary available at ftp://ftp.sgmltools.org The problem with the current model is that it install several packages instead of trying to use the available. That's why there are problems of co-existence between version 1 and 2... From what CVS repository? Can you give me directions to get this? I can probably create some RPMS of this for others' convenience. -- Kayvan Aghaiepour Sylvan | Proud husband of | Father to my kids: Sylvan Associates, Inc. | Laura Isabella Sylvan | Katherine Yelena (8/8/89) http://sylvan.com/~kayvan | | Robin Gregory (2/28/92) -- José
Re: writing Linux HOTWOs, is LyX ready?
On Wed, Nov 03, 1999 at 08:37:52AM -0800, Kayvan A. Sylvan wrote: On Wed, Nov 03, 1999 at 09:28:23AM +, Jose Abilio Oliveira Matos wrote: The right sgmltools to be used directly is sgmltools v2.3, That is only available as a cvs version for now. Hello :) you can look at http://www.sgmltools.org/download.html There is already one rpm source an binary available at ftp://ftp.sgmltools.org The problem with the current model is that it install several packages instead of trying to use the available. That's why there are problems of co-existence between version 1 and 2... From what CVS repository? Can you give me directions to get this? I can probably create some RPMS of this for others' convenience. -- Kayvan Aghaiepour Sylvan | Proud husband of | Father to my kids: Sylvan Associates, Inc. | Laura Isabella Sylvan | Katherine Yelena (8/8/89) http://sylvan.com/~kayvan | | Robin Gregory (2/28/92) -- José
Re: writing Linux HOTWOs, is LyX ready?
On Wed, Nov 03, 1999 at 08:37:52AM -0800, Kayvan A. Sylvan wrote: > On Wed, Nov 03, 1999 at 09:28:23AM +, Jose Abilio Oliveira Matos wrote: > > The right sgmltools to be used directly is sgmltools v2.3, That is only > > available as a cvs version for now. > Hello :) you can look at http://www.sgmltools.org/download.html There is already one rpm source an binary available at ftp://ftp.sgmltools.org The problem with the current model is that it install several packages instead of trying to use the available. That's why there are problems of co-existence between version 1 and 2... >From what CVS repository? Can you give me directions to get this? > > I can probably create some RPMS of this for others' convenience. > > -- > Kayvan Aghaiepour Sylvan | Proud husband of | Father to my kids: > Sylvan Associates, Inc. | Laura Isabella Sylvan | Katherine Yelena (8/8/89) > http://sylvan.com/~kayvan | | Robin Gregory (2/28/92) -- José
