Re: [M100] time

2015-10-23 Thread Kurt McCullum
Well maybe ? works with a modem connection but with Telnet it 
disconnects after giving the time. But the link I sent has all the 
information of the fields.


I could build something into mComm to accept a time request from the 
model-t. A simple Basic program could open up the port, request the time 
and set the time & date of the model-T with the information that is sent 
back. But realistically, how useful is that?


Kurt

On 10/23/2015 7:30 PM, Donald Kyllo wrote:
While the time is being displayed, press the ? to get a description of 
all the numbers in the string.


Don

On 10/23/2015 07:09 PM, Kurt McCullum wrote:
I just tested this on my T200 with mComm. Works fine. From the file 
viewer Press ! and then the Telnet URL prompt comes up. Entering 
time.nist.gov:13 and pressing ENTER gives the time. I'm not sure what 
the numbers before the date or after the seconds are but it gives a 
single time entry.


Kurt

On 10/23/2015 6:14 PM, Donald Kyllo wrote:
time.nist.gov 13 










Re: [M100] time

2015-10-23 Thread Donald Kyllo
While the time is being displayed, press the ? to get a description of 
all the numbers in the string.


Don

On 10/23/2015 07:09 PM, Kurt McCullum wrote:
I just tested this on my T200 with mComm. Works fine. From the file 
viewer Press ! and then the Telnet URL prompt comes up. Entering 
time.nist.gov:13 and pressing ENTER gives the time. I'm not sure what 
the numbers before the date or after the seconds are but it gives a 
single time entry.


Kurt

On 10/23/2015 6:14 PM, Donald Kyllo wrote:
time.nist.gov 13 







Re: [M100] time

2015-10-23 Thread John Whitton


   For some years, I had a bit of software that I ran on a 486 machine 
which dialed up NIST via a Hayes modem, and set my Hayes Chronograph.


   Of course, hoarder that I am , I still have all three.

John W.



- Original Message - 
From: "Peter Vollan" 

To: "Model 100 Discussion" 
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 3:32 PM
Subject: [M100] time



I have just learned that if you "telnet time.nist.gov", the NIST sends
you a string containing the accurate time and date (UTC of course). It
seems to that that his could come in handy synchronising the Model T
to accurate time. 




Re: [M100] time

2015-10-23 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
Here's a program to set the time from NADSBox.

http://bitchin100.com/wiki/index.php?title=Synchronize_Time_with_your_NADS

-- John.


Re: [M100] time

2015-10-23 Thread Donald Kyllo

Here's the description from the modem:

   DESCRIPTION OF THE
  AUTOMATED COMPUTER TIME SERVICE (ACTS)

The service uses multi-speed modems which should automatically adapt to
the speed of the originating modem.  All messages are sent using standard
ASCII characters with 8 bits, no parity and 1 stop bit.

Format of the time message:

 D  L D
  MJD  YR MO DA H  M  S  ST S UT1 msADV 
 47999 90-04-18 21:39:17 50 0 +.1 045.0 UTC(NIST) *
 47999 90-04-18 21:39:18 50 0 +.1 045.0 UTC(NIST) *
 etc...

 The message transmits Universal Coordinated Time (UTC), the
official world time referred to the zero meridian of longitude.

The MJD is the modified Julian Day number, which advances by 1 at 
UTC every day.

The DST parameter provides information about Daylight Saving Time, using
the model valid for the continental US:

  00 = US is on standard time (ST).50 = US is on DST.
  99 to 51 = Now on ST, go to DST when your local time is 2:00 am and the
 count is 51.  The count is decremented daily at 00 (UTC).
  49 to 01 = Now on DST, go to ST when your local time is 2:00 am and the
 count is 01.  The count is decremented daily at 00 (UTC).

LS = Leap second flag is set to "1" to indicate that a leap second is to be
added as 23:59:60 UTC on the last day of the current month (usually June or
December).  The flag will be set to "2" if the last second of the current
month is to be dropped. The second following 23:59:58 UTC on the last day
of the month will be 00:00:00 of the next day in that case.  The flag will
remain on for the entire month before a leap-second event; it will be 0
otherwise.

DUT1 = Approximate difference between earth rotation time (UT1) and UTC, in
steps of 0.1 second. DUT1 = UT1 - UTC

The specified time is valid when the "*" on-time marker is received.  This
character will be transmitted 45 ms early to compensate for the nominal
delay in the modems and the telephone connection.

The maximum connection time will be 40 seconds unless you transmit a
"%" character before then.  If this character is received, the transmitter
will break the connection at the next on-time marker.

For more information write:
NIST-ACTS
Time and Frequency Division
Mail Stop 847
325 Broadway
Boulder, CO  80303

e-mail: t...@time.nist.gov

The software and additional information on ACTS and other
services are also available on the web at
www.boulder.nist.gov/timefreq.


On 10/23/2015 07:39 PM, Kurt McCullum wrote:
Well maybe ? works with a modem connection but with Telnet it 
disconnects after giving the time. But the link I sent has all the 
information of the fields.


I could build something into mComm to accept a time request from the 
model-t. A simple Basic program could open up the port, request the 
time and set the time & date of the model-T with the information that 
is sent back. But realistically, how useful is that?


Kurt

On 10/23/2015 7:30 PM, Donald Kyllo wrote:
While the time is being displayed, press the ? to get a description 
of all the numbers in the string.


Don

On 10/23/2015 07:09 PM, Kurt McCullum wrote:
I just tested this on my T200 with mComm. Works fine. From the file 
viewer Press ! and then the Telnet URL prompt comes up. Entering 
time.nist.gov:13 and pressing ENTER gives the time. I'm not sure 
what the numbers before the date or after the seconds are but it 
gives a single time entry.


Kurt

On 10/23/2015 6:14 PM, Donald Kyllo wrote:
time.nist.gov 13 













[M100] I would like the Model 100 to be able to connect to a BBS to send / receive emails

2015-10-23 Thread Duane Calvill
I use to use my TRS 80 Model 100 back in the early 1990's to call up the
local library. I would call a phone number using the build in modem and
TELCOM.

mComm (Windows TPDD/TELCOM server) has the ability to create a Telnet
session. My intent was to use it to attach to the various BBS systems. But
until somebody sets up a BBS for the 40x8 screen size with escape codes
specific to the M100, it's a bit pointless. Butif you want to check the
time go for it.
Kurt

I would like to see an ethernet to serial adapter for the Model T. The TRS
80 Model 100 would be great to use again in 2015 and beyond. But as the
years go by, so does technology. Now we have tablets, netbooks and IPhones.

Now we just need an Ethernet to serial adapter for the model t :-)On Oct
23, 2015 3:32 PM, "Peter Vollan"  wrote:

I have just learned that if you "telnet time.nist.gov", the NIST sends
you a string containing the accurate time and date (UTC of course). It
seems to that that his could come in handy synchronising the Model T
to accurate time.

Can anyone direct me to websites that support the TRS 80 Model 100 ?


Re: [M100] time

2015-10-23 Thread Brad Whitlock
For me the most amazing part of this is. that number 1+(303)494-4774 still 
works.Brad
  From: Lee Kelley 
 To: Model 100 Discussion  
 Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 4:45 PM
 Subject: Re: [M100] time
   
At one time there was a phone number for that and someone won a programming 
contest for writing a program to do just 
that.http://www.club100.org/blosxom/contest2010/vollan/nist/nistdo.do

Lee


On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 4:22 PM, Peter Vollan  wrote:

ISTR that there is a way that the m100 can do telnet, but not ssh


On 23 October 2015 at 14:08, Josh Malone  wrote:
> Now we just need an Ethernet to serial adapter for the model t :-)
>
> On Oct 23, 2015 3:32 PM, "Peter Vollan"  wrote:
>>
>> I have just learned that if you "telnet time.nist.gov", the NIST sends
>> you a string containing the accurate time and date (UTC of course). It
>> seems to that that his could come in handy synchronising the Model T
>> to accurate time.




-- 
"I will never in my lifetime make a film that cannot be seen by the whole 
family"  Arther P. Jacobs


  

Re: [M100] time

2015-10-23 Thread Josh Malone
Now we just need an Ethernet to serial adapter for the model t :-)
On Oct 23, 2015 3:32 PM, "Peter Vollan"  wrote:

> I have just learned that if you "telnet time.nist.gov", the NIST sends
> you a string containing the accurate time and date (UTC of course). It
> seems to that that his could come in handy synchronising the Model T
> to accurate time.
>


Re: [M100] time

2015-10-23 Thread Peter Vollan
Darn it, I wrote it wrong. It is
telnet time.nist.gov 13
... that spits out the cryptic string used by my dialup time setting
program. And then disconnects.

In about 1991 I used to call BBSs with my model 100, and there were
some that came through just fine. Those were the text only ones that
did not use ANSI. I think there was one called a "Henge". Also I think
we all know the the Model 100 has a termcap file for Unix sytems


On 23 October 2015 at 15:01, Kurt McCullum  wrote:
> mComm (Windows TPDD/TELCOM server) has the ability to create a Telnet
> session. My intent was to use it to attach to the various BBS systems. But
> until somebody sets up a BBS for the 40x8 screen size with escape codes
> specific to the M100, it's a bit pointless. Butif you want to check the
> time go for it.
>
> Kurt
>
>
>
> On Friday, October 23, 2015 2:08 PM, Josh Malone 
> wrote:
>
>
> Now we just need an Ethernet to serial adapter for the model t :-)
> On Oct 23, 2015 3:32 PM, "Peter Vollan"  wrote:
>
> I have just learned that if you "telnet time.nist.gov", the NIST sends
> you a string containing the accurate time and date (UTC of course). It
> seems to that that his could come in handy synchronising the Model T
> to accurate time.
>
>
>


Re: [M100] time

2015-10-23 Thread Kurt McCullum
mComm (Windows TPDD/TELCOM server) has the ability to create a Telnet session. 
My intent was to use it to attach to the various BBS systems. But until 
somebody sets up a BBS for the 40x8 screen size with escape codes specific to 
the M100, it's a bit pointless. Butif you want to check the time go for it.
Kurt
 


 On Friday, October 23, 2015 2:08 PM, Josh Malone  
wrote:
   

 Now we just need an Ethernet to serial adapter for the model t :-)On Oct 23, 
2015 3:32 PM, "Peter Vollan"  wrote:

I have just learned that if you "telnet time.nist.gov", the NIST sends
you a string containing the accurate time and date (UTC of course). It
seems to that that his could come in handy synchronising the Model T
to accurate time.



   

Re: [M100] time

2015-10-23 Thread Lee Kelley
At one time there was a phone number for that and someone won a programming
contest for writing a program to do just that.
http://www.club100.org/blosxom/contest2010/vollan/nist/nistdo.do

Lee

On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 4:22 PM, Peter Vollan  wrote:

> ISTR that there is a way that the m100 can do telnet, but not ssh
>
>
> On 23 October 2015 at 14:08, Josh Malone  wrote:
> > Now we just need an Ethernet to serial adapter for the model t :-)
> >
> > On Oct 23, 2015 3:32 PM, "Peter Vollan"  wrote:
> >>
> >> I have just learned that if you "telnet time.nist.gov", the NIST sends
> >> you a string containing the accurate time and date (UTC of course). It
> >> seems to that that his could come in handy synchronising the Model T
> >> to accurate time.
>



-- 
*"I will never in my lifetime make a film that cannot be seen by the whole
family"*  Arther P. Jacobs


Re: [M100] time

2015-10-23 Thread Peter Vollan
Um. yes, Lee, that was me.

On 23 October 2015 at 14:45, Lee Kelley  wrote:
> At one time there was a phone number for that and someone won a programming
> contest for writing a program to do just that.
> http://www.club100.org/blosxom/contest2010/vollan/nist/nistdo.do
>
> Lee
>
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 4:22 PM, Peter Vollan  wrote:
>>
>> ISTR that there is a way that the m100 can do telnet, but not ssh
>>
>>
>> On 23 October 2015 at 14:08, Josh Malone  wrote:
>> > Now we just need an Ethernet to serial adapter for the model t :-)
>> >
>> > On Oct 23, 2015 3:32 PM, "Peter Vollan"  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I have just learned that if you "telnet time.nist.gov", the NIST sends
>> >> you a string containing the accurate time and date (UTC of course). It
>> >> seems to that that his could come in handy synchronising the Model T
>> >> to accurate time.
>
>
>
>
> --
> "I will never in my lifetime make a film that cannot be seen by the whole
> family"  Arther P. Jacobs