Re: [M100] Hello......!

[Brian K. White]

On 6/4/20 6:04 PM, John R. Hogerhuis wrote:



On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 1:49 PM Brian K. White > wrote:


On 6/4/20 4:32 PM, John R. Hogerhuis wrote:

I have posted links 3 such cables many times.
And an ideal usb adapter to screw right on to it.

http://tandy.wiki/Model_100_102_200_600_Serial_Cable

Any of those "ideal" 3 cables is exactly the fully wired all in one
piece cable.

For the usb, I personally like to keep that separate because it's
useful
for other stuff on it's own.


Thanks.

I would suggest that the thin hood male-male gender changer should be 
kept as a separate piece because then the cable itself is more durable. 
No pins to break on the main cable.


If a pin bends/breaks on the gender changer (it has happened to me) I 
just throw away the gender changer.


The  cables I use are the old Belkin serial laplink which has db-9 and 
db-25 female both on both ends of the cable. Never had any failure. But 
they are not on the market any more. That is my ideal.


If building from scratch I would just put the USB-Serial adapter into 
the cable.


But separate works too.

You and I will mix and match parts and know what makes sense but a lot 
of users don't get into the details.


-- John.


Apparently being forced to stay home with nothing to do for months on 
end... is still not enough for me to get around to creating a few little 
graphic diagrams to replace my cryptic notation to show how each cable 
is wired exactly.


But the info is actually there. Basically, they show how the cable 
deviates from the platonic ideal rs232, by signal name, leaving pin 
numbers and the physical locations of those pin numbers on male vs 
female, 9 vs 25 pin, to get from standard references.


--
bkw

Re: [M100] Hello......!

[Ron Lauzon]

My understanding is that the NADSbox was superceded by dlplus and later 
LaddieAlpha.

I created a recipe and software to use a Raspberry Pi 0, battery and display to 
create something similar to a NADSbox (i.e. you just hook it up and it works 
like a TPDD).  https://github.com/rlauzon54/pi-tpdd

But you can run LaddieAlpha on your own PC or mComm on your phone/tablet to do 
the same thing.
-- 
Weblog: http://ronsapartment.blogspot.com/

TRS-80 Pocket Computer 2 - TRS-80 Pocket Computer 4 - TRS-80 Model 100/102 - 
Tandy 1100FD - Tandy 1400LT - Commodore 64 - TRS-80 Model 4P
RC2014 (Mini and Pro) - Altair-Duino with TI Silent 700 - VT320 
terminal/Raspberry Pi 0
Some people like to work on old cars.  But old computers are cheaper and don't 
require a big garage.



Jun 4, 2020, 14:54 by copypeng...@zoho.com:

>
> …and a bunch of questions!!
>
>
>
>
>
> New M100 owner here, having just acquired one in pretty good condition, and 
> (seemingly) fully working, from eBay.>  
>
>
>
>
>
> I really do love this laptop! Wonderful keyboard, elegant and simple, 
> functional and yet not stuffed with nonsense I have no need for. And I have 
> to say, I learnt everything (long-since forgotten now) on a TRS-80 Model 1, a 
> couple of whole generations ago, so the M100 feels very familiar.
>
>
>
>
>
> But, here’s the thing: It’s so good to use, I want to put it to use, but that 
> means some way of moving files off it, preferably to a 2017-vintage iMac, or 
> possibly a Windows 10 workstation. But how?
>
>
>
>
>
> I’d have bought a NADSbox and done it via an SD card, which seems the best 
> way, but there aren’t any to buy, of course. All the talk of null modems and 
> terminal commands are a mystery to me, not least because I have no starting 
> point in what I’m looking for or how to use it.
>
>
>
>
>
> I have ordered an Android TV Box TPDD Server from arcadeshopper.com because 
> it looked like it might help, but that’s only because it was pictured 
> connected to an M100!
>
>
>
>
>
> I write a ton of reports and proposals, and the M100 keyboard is way better 
> than anything I have to type on otherwise! I also plan to (re)learn BASIC and 
> write some of my own software for it, and I’d like to have somewhere to load 
> from/save to.
>
>
>
>
>
> So, the questions are:
>
>
>
>
>
> Well, firstly, does anyone have a NADSbox in working condition they don’t 
> want?
>
>
>
>
>
> No? I thought not. Well, then… deep breath and speaking as a newbie, what do 
> I need, where from, and how do I get it to work?!
>
>
>
>
>
> By the way, when I bought the M100, I had no idea there was still a thriving 
> community of users, let alone a good, old-fashioned mailing list! I am really 
> impressed!!! And the 100 is really cool too!
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
>
> Andy
>
>
>

[M100] Hello......!

[The CopyPenguin]

…and a bunch of questions!!



New M100 owner here, having just acquired one in pretty good condition, and 
(seemingly) fully working, from eBay. 



I really do love this laptop! Wonderful keyboard, elegant and simple, 
functional and yet not stuffed with nonsense I have no need for. And I have to 
say, I learnt everything (long-since forgotten now) on a TRS-80 Model 1, a 
couple of whole generations ago, so the M100 feels very familiar.



But, here’s the thing: It’s so good to use, I want to put it to use, but that 
means some way of moving files off it, preferably to a 2017-vintage iMac, or 
possibly a Windows 10 workstation. But how?



I’d have bought a NADSbox and done it via an SD card, which seems the best way, 
but there aren’t any to buy, of course. All the talk of null modems and 
terminal commands are a mystery to me, not least because I have no starting 
point in what I’m looking for or how to use it.



I have ordered an Android TV Box TPDD Server from arcadeshopper.com because it 
looked like it might help, but that’s only because it was pictured connected to 
an M100!



I write a ton of reports and proposals, and the M100 keyboard is way better 
than anything I have to type on otherwise! I also plan to (re)learn BASIC and 
write some of my own software for it, and I’d like to have somewhere to load 
from/save to.



So, the questions are:



Well, firstly, does anyone have a NADSbox in working condition they don’t want?



No? I thought not. Well, then… deep breath and speaking as a newbie, what do I 
need, where from, and how do I get it to work?!



By the way, when I bought the M100, I had no idea there was still a thriving 
community of users, let alone a good, old-fashioned mailing list! I am really 
impressed!!! And the 100 is really cool too!



Thanks in advance,

Andy

Re: [M100] Hello......!

[John R. Hogerhuis]

On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 1:49 PM Brian K. White  wrote:

> On 6/4/20 4:32 PM, John R. Hogerhuis wrote:
>
> I have posted links 3 such cables many times.
> And an ideal usb adapter to screw right on to it.
>
> http://tandy.wiki/Model_100_102_200_600_Serial_Cable
>
> Any of those "ideal" 3 cables is exactly the fully wired all in one
> piece cable.
>
> For the usb, I personally like to keep that separate because it's useful
> for other stuff on it's own.
>
>
Thanks.

I would suggest that the thin hood male-male gender changer should be kept
as a separate piece because then the cable itself is more durable. No pins
to break on the main cable.

If a pin bends/breaks on the gender changer (it has happened to me) I just
throw away the gender changer.

The  cables I use are the old Belkin serial laplink which has db-9 and
db-25 female both on both ends of the cable. Never had any failure. But
they are not on the market any more. That is my ideal.

If building from scratch I would just put the USB-Serial adapter into the
cable.

But separate works too.

You and I will mix and match parts and know what makes sense but a lot of
users don't get into the details.

-- John.

Re: [M100] Hello......!

[Brian K. White]

On 6/4/20 4:32 PM, John R. Hogerhuis wrote:

The Android box is  cool.

What would also be nice to see on the market is simply a proper cable 
kit, full null to db25, the thin hood gender changer either with a FTDI 
USB serial adapter built in to the cable or that can be connected to the 
cable.


Software could be separate with just instructions to download

That would get people ramped up cheaply and quickly.

All the stuff is out there one way or another but new users get 
overwhelmed.


-- John.


I have posted links 3 such cables many times.
And an ideal usb adapter to screw right on to it.

http://tandy.wiki/Model_100_102_200_600_Serial_Cable

Any of those "ideal" 3 cables is exactly the fully wired all in one 
piece cable.


For the usb, I personally like to keep that separate because it's useful 
for other stuff on it's own.


--
bkw

Re: [M100] Hello......!

[Gregory McGill]

You build them and I'll sell em :) lmk

Greg

On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 1:32 PM John R. Hogerhuis  wrote:

> The Android box is  cool.
>
> What would also be nice to see on the market is simply a proper cable kit,
> full null to db25, the thin hood gender changer either with a FTDI USB
> serial adapter built in to the cable or that can be connected to the cable.
>
> Software could be separate with just instructions to download
>
> That would get people ramped up cheaply and quickly.
>
> All the stuff is out there one way or another but new users get
> overwhelmed.
>
> -- John.
>

Re: [M100] Hello......!

[Gregory McGill]

the TPDD server is basically a NADS box emulation on android.. You can then
ftp the files to/from a pc if you load a ftp server/client on it OR just
pull the sdcard and read it on your pc.. it runs MCOMM which is available
for windows also but since you have a mac you can run laddialpha and get
the same functionality with a rs232 port and a cable.  I provide both with
the android box, you could just move that cable on over to a usb port on
your mac, and run the software.

Greg
arcadeshopper.com



On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 11:54 AM The CopyPenguin 
wrote:

> …and a bunch of questions!!
>
>
> New M100 owner here, having just acquired one in pretty good condition,
> and (seemingly) fully working, from eBay.
>
>
> I really do love this laptop! Wonderful keyboard, elegant and simple,
> functional and yet not stuffed with nonsense I have no need for. And I have
> to say, I learnt everything (long-since forgotten now) on a TRS-80 Model 1,
> a couple of whole generations ago, so the M100 feels very familiar.
>
>
> But, here’s the thing: It’s so good to use, I want to put it to use, but
> that means some way of moving files off it, preferably to a 2017-vintage
> iMac, or possibly a Windows 10 workstation. But how?
>
>
> I’d have bought a NADSbox and done it via an SD card, which seems the best
> way, but there aren’t any to buy, of course. All the talk of null modems
> and terminal commands are a mystery to me, not least because I have no
> starting point in what I’m looking for or how to use it.
>
>
> I have ordered an Android TV Box TPDD Server from arcadeshopper.com
> because it looked like it might help, but that’s only because it was
> pictured connected to an M100!
>
>
> I write a ton of reports and proposals, and the M100 keyboard is way
> better than anything I have to type on otherwise! I also plan to (re)learn
> BASIC and write some of my own software for it, and I’d like to have
> somewhere to load from/save to.
>
>
> So, the questions are:
>
>
> Well, firstly, does anyone have a NADSbox in working condition they don’t
> want?
>
>
> No? I thought not. Well, then… deep breath and speaking as a newbie, what
> do I need, where from, and how do I get it to work?!
>
>
> By the way, when I bought the M100, I had no idea there was still a
> thriving community of users, let alone a good, old-fashioned mailing list!
> I am really impressed!!! And the 100 is really cool too!
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Andy
>
>
>

Re: [M100] Hello......!

[Kevin Becker]

Yeah, dlplus or LaddieAlpha will let you transfer files to/from your PC
or Mac without any SD card go between.  I'd suggest getting a REX to
allow you to (among other things) easily have TS-DOS in ROM to make
things as easy as possible.

http://bitchin100.com/wiki/index.php?title=LaddieConhttps://github.com/bkw777/dlplushttp://bitchin100.com/wiki/index.php?title=Rex


On Thu, 2020-06-04 at 21:26 +0200, Ron Lauzon wrote:
> My understanding is that the NADSbox was superceded by dlplus and
> later LaddieAlpha.
> 
> I created a recipe and software to use a Raspberry Pi 0, battery and
> display to create something similar to a NADSbox (i.e. you just hook
> it up and it works like a TPDD).  
> https://github.com/rlauzon54/pi-tpdd
> 
> But you can run LaddieAlpha on your own PC or mComm on your
> phone/tablet to do the same thing.
> -- 
> Weblog: http://ronsapartment.blogspot.com/
> 
> TRS-80 Pocket Computer 2 - TRS-80 Pocket Computer 4 - TRS-80 Model
> 100/102 - Tandy 1100FD - Tandy 1400LT - Commodore 64 - TRS-80 Model
> 4P
> RC2014 (Mini and Pro) - Altair-Duino with TI Silent 700 - VT320
> terminal/Raspberry Pi 0
> Some people like to work on old cars.  But old computers are cheaper
> and don't require a big garage.
> 
> 
> 
> Jun 4, 2020, 14:54 by copypeng...@zoho.com:
> > …and a bunch of questions!!
> > 
> > New M100 owner here, having just acquired one in pretty good
> > condition, and (seemingly) fully working, from eBay. 
> > 
> > I really do love this laptop! Wonderful keyboard, elegant and
> > simple, functional and yet not stuffed with nonsense I have no need
> > for. And I have to say, I learnt everything (long-since forgotten
> > now) on a TRS-80 Model 1, a couple of whole generations ago, so the
> > M100 feels very familiar.
> > 
> > But, here’s the thing: It’s so good to use, I want to put it to
> > use, but that means some way of moving files off it, preferably to
> > a 2017-vintage iMac, or possibly a Windows 10 workstation. But how?
> > 
> > I’d have bought a NADSbox and done it via an SD card, which seems
> > the best way, but there aren’t any to buy, of course. All the talk
> > of null modems and terminal commands are a mystery to me, not least
> > because I have no starting point in what I’m looking for or how to
> > use it.
> > 
> > I have ordered an Android TV Box TPDD Server from arcadeshopper.com
> > because it looked like it might help, but that’s only because it
> > was pictured connected to an M100!
> > 
> > I write a ton of reports and proposals, and the M100 keyboard is
> > way better than anything I have to type on otherwise! I also plan
> > to (re)learn BASIC and write some of my own software for it, and
> > I’d like to have somewhere to load from/save to.
> > 
> > So, the questions are:
> > 
> > Well, firstly, does anyone have a NADSbox in working condition they
> > don’t want?
> > 
> > No? I thought not. Well, then… deep breath and speaking as a
> > newbie, what do I need, where from, and how do I get it to work?!
> > 
> > By the way, when I bought the M100, I had no idea there was still a
> > thriving community of users, let alone a good, old-fashioned
> > mailing list! I am really impressed!!! And the 100 is really cool
> > too!
> > 
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Andy
> > 
> 
>   
>