Re: [M100] Ron Wiesen

2021-12-21 Thread JOHN JR & VIRGINIA WHITTON
 
A little more about Ron Weisen, from QRZ: https://tinyurl.com/y4svu23o
On Tuesday, December 21, 2021, 8:20:04 AM EST, Brian Brindle 
 wrote:  
 
 
Hi everyone, 
I learned today from an amateur radio contact that WD8PNL, Ronald R. Wiesen 
passed away July 23rd, 2021. He was 71. 
Ron was noticeably absent from the list recently, especially with the current 
topics being right up his alley. He brought us many cool programs related to 
Amateur Radio as well as utilities for the M100. He was a US Marine with combat 
experience and had dozens of entertaining, crazy stories to go along with all 
of that. He ran Little Orphan Annie crypto challenges, would spin yarns about 
the simplest of things and was just pain fun. 
Ron was an awesome guy, he was already missed but knowing he is gone forever 
makes me immeasurably sad.
73 my friend,  WD8PNL, Keeper of the Primordial Bit (mother of all bits), -= 
Ron Wiesen =-   (SK)
As of yet, we have received no comment from Bubba. 

Brian

  

Re: [M100] Ron Wiesen

2021-12-21 Thread JOHN JR & VIRGINIA WHITTON
Genuinely grieved to hear about Ron's passing. He was a fount of reliable, 
thoughtful information, always brought something to the conversation, and was 
just a fine fellow. I noted on Nov. 10th that he did not post his annual 'Happy 
Birthday' observation, and wondered a bit about it.

Very sorry to learn of it.

John 

On Tuesday, December 21, 2021, 4:16:30 PM EST, Russell Flowers 
 wrote:  
 
 Very sad, I'm sorry to hear it. He was very active on this list.
On Tue, Dec 21, 2021 at 2:35 PM John R. Hogerhuis  wrote:

Sad news!
Ron was a core member of this community for a long time and a big contributor 
of software and support. He stuck around for some time after Rick's passing, 
but I think he really missed Rick and it just wasn't the same for him after 
that loss. So I think many of us had already been missing Ron.

Rest in peace Ron.

And as he often signed off,
-= Model T's Forever =-
  

Re: [M100] reuse Palm pilot as a serial LCD display for M100

2021-06-24 Thread JOHN JR & VIRGINIA WHITTON
Heh. Maybe...if I can find them. Moreover, I kind of suspect that they were 
simply coded directly in the device, which would mean that they are gone.

I used the Palm and ADIOS board for monitoring some stuff. My recollection is 
that there were only a few lines of Basic involved...opening a port, sending 
and receiving ASCII.

The best thing to do would be simply to download Hotpaw, and have at it. I do 
not recall it being a tedious or tricky thing. It struck me as very useful.

Oh, and I have NOT forgotten the brief exchanges with you and Mike re ADIOS, 
just haven't had a chance to prowl around in my 'file system' (AKA basement) 
and find the stuff.

John 

On Thursday, June 24, 2021, 7:13:16 AM EDT, Stephen Adolph 
 wrote:  
 
 hi John, very interesting. I forgot about Hotpaw.Can you share your programs 
for using the serial port?thanks!Steve

On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 12:34 AM JOHN JR & VIRGINIA WHITTON 
 wrote:

A good while back, I developed several trivial applications for my Pal, using 
Hotpaw Basic. In each case, those involved RS-232 connections.

It's pretty straight-up Basic, as I recall. It's been years, but looks like 
it's available for download here:
Ron Nicholson's Ancient Palm OS Computing Information Page

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On Wednesday, June 23, 2021, 6:36:40 PM EDT, Dan Higdon 
 wrote:  
 
 Wow, that's pretty cool. I have an old Palm III that I keep wanting to find 
stuff to do with. I have the cradle (an RS232 cradle, thankfully) but no 
software. I put batteries into it and it does work.
>From the sounds of things, it looks like it won't be a straight-up "throw 
>ASCII at it" terminal, but it will be fun to explore the options I think.

On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 7:24 AM Stephen Adolph  wrote:

http://palmorb.sourceforge.net/download.html

stumbled across this interesting piece of Palm Pilot software it turns the 
PP into an RS232 driven LCD display.  This seems like it could be quite useful 
for the M100 - debug interface, auxiliary input/output etc.  

  
  

Re: [M100] reuse Palm pilot as a serial LCD display for M100

2021-06-23 Thread JOHN JR & VIRGINIA WHITTON
A good while back, I developed several trivial applications for my Pal, using 
Hotpaw Basic. In each case, those involved RS-232 connections.

It's pretty straight-up Basic, as I recall. It's been years, but looks like 
it's available for download here:
Ron Nicholson's Ancient Palm OS Computing Information Page

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On Wednesday, June 23, 2021, 6:36:40 PM EDT, Dan Higdon 
 wrote:  
 
 Wow, that's pretty cool. I have an old Palm III that I keep wanting to find 
stuff to do with. I have the cradle (an RS232 cradle, thankfully) but no 
software. I put batteries into it and it does work.
>From the sounds of things, it looks like it won't be a straight-up "throw 
>ASCII at it" terminal, but it will be fun to explore the options I think.

On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 7:24 AM Stephen Adolph  wrote:

http://palmorb.sourceforge.net/download.html

stumbled across this interesting piece of Palm Pilot software it turns the 
PP into an RS232 driven LCD display.  This seems like it could be quite useful 
for the M100 - debug interface, auxiliary input/output etc.  

  

Re: [M100] AT Command set

2021-03-04 Thread JOHN JR & VIRGINIA WHITTON
The answer is a rather qualified 'Yes'.  I'll have to root around in the 
stacks, and see what I can find. Will do so in the next day or two.

Nice to hear from both of you.

John 

On Thursday, March 4, 2021, 9:32:12 PM EST, Mike Stein 
 wrote:  
 
 I've been meaning to ask the same question; any chance you still have the 
files for the boards or a source, and could share them?
Talk to ya off-list; it's been too long!
mike
On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 7:51 PM JOHN JR & VIRGINIA WHITTON 
 wrote:

Alas, no. I only had 10 boards etched, and bought parts for 10. All sold. 

You would be surprised by how many times I have used it for small projects. The 
weirdest, perhaps, was to drive one of these, a Western Electric railroad 
station selector, a very interesting device:

http://railroad-signaling.com/relays/tn_60ap_jpg.jpg
http://www.decadecounter.com/vta/pic/we60ap3.jpg 

On Thursday, March 4, 2021, 7:32:15 PM EST, Stephen Adolph 
 wrote:  
 
 Hey John,I'm going to be playing with my ADIOS again.  Do you have any more f 
those cool devices around?
Can you make more?
Hope all is well!

CheersSteve

On Saturday, February 20, 2021, JOHN JR & VIRGINIA WHITTON 
 wrote:

Jeff Gonzales To:m100@bitchin100.comSat, Feb 20 at 7:37 
PMWow, crazy.  I guess AT commands have come a long way from 
ATDT9,,,1800555 hahaha.
So, what protocol is the device expecting the other end to communicate 
with?

I haven't commented here in a couple of years, but read the posts. 

In this instance, I thought I'd mention that I was present when the 'AT' 
command set was initially created.  ~1980, by my recollection.

Regards to all,
John

  
  

Re: [M100] AT Command set

2021-03-04 Thread JOHN JR & VIRGINIA WHITTON
Alas, no. I only had 10 boards etched, and bought parts for 10. All sold. 

You would be surprised by how many times I have used it for small projects. The 
weirdest, perhaps, was to drive one of these, a Western Electric railroad 
station selector, a very interesting device:

http://railroad-signaling.com/relays/tn_60ap_jpg.jpg
http://www.decadecounter.com/vta/pic/we60ap3.jpg 

On Thursday, March 4, 2021, 7:32:15 PM EST, Stephen Adolph 
 wrote:  
 
 Hey John,I'm going to be playing with my ADIOS again.  Do you have any more f 
those cool devices around?
Can you make more?
Hope all is well!

CheersSteve

On Saturday, February 20, 2021, JOHN JR & VIRGINIA WHITTON 
 wrote:

Jeff Gonzales To:m100@bitchin100.comSat, Feb 20 at 7:37 
PMWow, crazy.  I guess AT commands have come a long way from 
ATDT9,,,1800555 hahaha.
So, what protocol is the device expecting the other end to communicate 
with?

I haven't commented here in a couple of years, but read the posts. 

In this instance, I thought I'd mention that I was present when the 'AT' 
command set was initially created.  ~1980, by my recollection.

Regards to all,
John

  

Re: [M100] AT Command set

2021-02-21 Thread JOHN JR & VIRGINIA WHITTON
Yes. 

On Sunday, February 21, 2021, 3:36:39 PM EST, John R. Hogerhuis 
 wrote:  
 
 "In this instance, I thought I'd mention that I was present when the 'AT' 
command set was initially created. "
Cool, John! Wikipedia agrees with you on the approximate year... 1981.
At Hayes?

-- John.  

Re: [M100] AT Command set

2021-02-20 Thread JOHN JR & VIRGINIA WHITTON
Jeff Gonzales To:m100@bitchin100.comSat, Feb 20 at 7:37 
PMWow, crazy.  I guess AT commands have come a long way from 
ATDT9,,,1800555 hahaha.
So, what protocol is the device expecting the other end to communicate 
with?

I haven't commented here in a couple of years, but read the posts. 

In this instance, I thought I'd mention that I was present when the 'AT' 
command set was initially created.  ~1980, by my recollection.

Regards to all,
John


[M100] Still here, and reading M100 list

2019-02-28 Thread JOHN JR & VIRGINIA WHITTON
Pulled out my M102 with the embedded A/D (a project from some while back) to 
log temperature of our water heater.

It occurred to me that I haven't added much to the list in the last (?) two 
years, so I thought I'd just drop in and say hello.

I still faithfully read all posts.

Regards to all...even those in Canada.

John


Re: [M100] BASIC trick

2018-12-14 Thread JOHN JR & VIRGINIA WHITTON
 >Yeah I don't have a problem with that kind of stuff as long as its portable 
 >and you keep the code short.
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And it is well commented/documented.

John W.




On Thursday, December 13, 2018, 3:06:02 PM EST, John R. Hogerhuis 
 wrote:  
 
 

On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 10:01 AM Scott Lawrence  wrote:

On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 1:21 PM John R. Hogerhuis  wrote:

In other languages you can't call into the middle of a function. There is one 
entry point, possibly multiple exit points. There's no chance unbalanced CALL 
and RETURN. once you return you're jump to the stacked address and you're no 
longer in the subroutine.

For what it's worth, you certainly can do this in C.  ...And it woks fine if 
the place you jump to is in a function with the same size/number of parameters 
passed in (pushed onto the stack).  Although optimizations that the compiler 
does might screw with that. ;) 


Fair enough. I've seen setjmp/longjmp. It's really weird. I ran across it in 
some code creating its own scheduler for a network simulator unit test harness. 
Basically it needed to create multiple instances of a protocol stack to test a 
IoT mesh network. Is setjmp/longjmp what you're talking about? Because I don't 
think you can goto or call into the middle of a function otherwise. 
By no means is it recommended or even slightly good practice though. ;D
A somewhat similar weird goto-thing is Duff's Device, where you jump into the 
middle of a loop... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duff%27s_device



Yeah I don't have a problem with that kind of stuff as long as its portable and 
you keep the code short. -- John.