Re: [M100] REX & DVI

2020-02-27 Thread Brian White
There are different cables depending on if you have a 100, 102, or 200.

You can get a cable that works on one of those, or a kit that works on all
3 from arcadeshopper.

You can also build one. There are links to buy exact parts and pics here

http://tandy.wiki/Disk/Video_Interface:_Cable


As far as dosses co-existing, there are programs in the M100SIG archive
expressly to deal with the fact that most tpdd doses, dvi dos, chipmunk,
and probably more cannot coexist, so they wrote programs to swap them in
and out. You basically install one dos, run the util to stash it off to the
side where it's still physically present somewhere in memory, but not
active, then install some other dos, and then you can run the util to
switch between the two at will after that.

Probably it's because both dvidos and at least some tpdd dosses need to use
some of the same main rom hooks. The system rom has no code for dealing
with disks, but it does have a few hooks, which are just a special address
it will check in certain conditions, and jump to whatever address it reads
reads from there. It might be an immediate return/no-op, or it might be the
address of a dvidos or flopy2 or some other installed software's routine.
The routine is installed by software and could be anything, and it could be
stored anywhere in memory, but the special hook address that the system rom
looks at, there is only one of those and it's part of the system rom so it
can't be changed either.

If two different dosses need to supply their own different versions of a
routine for that hook, they can't both do it at the same time. Best you can
do is have the two routines in memory, and have a small program that you
can use to change the value in the hook address so that it points to
whichever dos you want.

I don't know how much of this is actually a problem with dvidos vs ts-dos.
I know that these hooks in the main rom exist for both disk and crt, and I
know dvidos uses them, but I don't know if floppy, flopy2, ts-dos, or any
other tpdd dosses use them, or if this is the main reason they can't both
be active at the same time. Maybe ts-dos doesn't use any of those hooks,
and there is some other reason they can't both be active at the same time.

-- 
bkw

On Thu, Feb 27, 2020, 4:30 AM James Zeun  wrote:

> That's really disappointing, I wish I had know before I bought it. The
> whole point of getting the DVI was so that I could continue working on
> documents at home on a bigger screen. I'd have just as been well to have
> taken the SD card out of my NADSbox and stuck it in a winblows PC.
>
> Anyways I won't let that dampen my spirits! I'll figure something out.
> Maybe a gotek drive in the DVI? Anyone tried that?
>
> I do desperately need a new DVI cable, can anyone help?
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, 27 Feb 2020, 12:44 am Stephen Adolph, 
> wrote:
>
>> I agree.  I dont think the issue is with rex.
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 26, 2020, Gregory McGill 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I think the answer is no which is why i put my dvi on the shelf and gave
>>> up for a bit
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 4:41 PM Stephen Adolph 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Does anyone know if tsdos is at all compatible with dvi?

 Dvi installs software of it's own.

 Does tsdos support access to the dvi?

 Can tsdos ram version be coresident with dvi software?

 If the answer is no then you have to do some serious gymnastics to
 transfer from pc to m100 using tsdos, and then from m100 to dvi using dvi
 dos.



 On Wednesday, February 26, 2020, James Zeun 
 wrote:

> Would it be possible to copy TR-DOS from the M100 to a floppy?
> Load it up through the DVI?
> I've never uninstalled a program, so not sure where F7 comes in to it.
> Could I not simply KILL the rex manager?
>
> I wanted the DVi for typing, but I need the REX for TR-DOS. So I can
> save my documents to SD CARD or TPDD etc.
>
> On Thu, 27 Feb 2020, 12:15 am Stephen Adolph, 
> wrote:
>
>> Unload means deinstall using F7.  Not remove REX.  REX can stay
>> installed physically...just deinstall rexmgr.ba.
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 26, 2020, Kurt McCullum 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> You can select TS-DOS with REX and then unload the REX manager. That
>>> way it looks to the M100 like a regular ROM is loaded and the DVI should
>>> work just fine from there.
>>>
>>> Kurt
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020, at 2:55 PM, Gregory McGill wrote:
>>>
>>> well transferring files from a pc with mcomm/laddealpha to dvi is
>>> facilitated by having rexmgr load tsdos..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 2:46 PM Stephen Adolph 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Yep.
>>> What I would do is make use of the deinstall function on rexmgr when
>>> you want to use dvi.
>>>
>>> Of course I dont know of many option roms that work with dvi anyways.
>>>
>>> What did you want to 

Re: [M100] REX & DVI

2020-02-27 Thread Mike Stein
Is the barcode patch going to be the 'official' interface?

I haven't programmed mine yet; how useful is Geoff's terminal in 'normal' 8x40 
M100 mode? 

I.e. does it handle all the various cursor etc. control codes properly?

It's definitely a neat device but you could of course also use an old laptop or 
whatever running a terminal program that does a correct emulation, although 
that would presumably require a level shifter.

@ Steve: since most level shifters also invert the signal and I assume you're 
bit-banging the interface, is there any possibility of an option to invert the 
signals in software?

  - Original Message - 
  From: Stephen Adolph 
  To: m...@bitchin100.com 
  Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 7:04 AM
  Subject: Re: [M100] REX & DVI


  What I think makes sense as a project is to direct efforts towards using the 
Geoff VT-100 terminal emulator with M100:


  http://geoffg.net/terminal.html


  This would be a great complement to M100.



  I think a great project would be to do some software work to rip into the DVI 
code, and pull out the video only routines, and rather than drive the DVI over 
the system bus, drive this "external VGA adapter" via serial.


  Several of us have started to disassemble DVI code.









  On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 4:30 AM James Zeun  wrote:

That's really disappointing, I wish I had know before I bought it. The 
whole point of getting the DVI was so that I could continue working on 
documents at home on a bigger screen. I'd have just as been well to have taken 
the SD card out of my NADSbox and stuck it in a winblows PC. 


Anyways I won't let that dampen my spirits! I'll figure something out. 
Maybe a gotek drive in the DVI? Anyone tried that?


I do desperately need a new DVI cable, can anyone help?










On Thu, 27 Feb 2020, 12:44 am Stephen Adolph,  wrote:

  I agree.  I dont think the issue is with rex.

  On Wednesday, February 26, 2020, Gregory McGill  
wrote:

I think the answer is no which is why i put my dvi on the shelf and 
gave up for a bit


On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 4:41 PM Stephen Adolph  
wrote:

  Does anyone know if tsdos is at all compatible with dvi? 


  Dvi installs software of it's own.


  Does tsdos support access to the dvi?


  Can tsdos ram version be coresident with dvi software?


  If the answer is no then you have to do some serious gymnastics to 
transfer from pc to m100 using tsdos, and then from m100 to dvi using dvi dos.




  On Wednesday, February 26, 2020, James Zeun  
wrote:

Would it be possible to copy TR-DOS from the M100 to a floppy?  
Load it up through the DVI?
I've never uninstalled a program, so not sure where F7 comes in to 
it. Could I not simply KILL the rex manager?


I wanted the DVi for typing, but I need the REX for TR-DOS. So I 
can save my documents to SD CARD or TPDD etc.


On Thu, 27 Feb 2020, 12:15 am Stephen Adolph, 
 wrote:

  Unload means deinstall using F7.  Not remove REX.  REX can stay 
installed physically...just deinstall rexmgr.ba.

  On Wednesday, February 26, 2020, Kurt McCullum 
 wrote:

You can select TS-DOS with REX and then unload the REX manager. 
That way it looks to the M100 like a regular ROM is loaded and the DVI should 
work just fine from there.



Kurt


On Wed, Feb 26, 2020, at 2:55 PM, Gregory McGill wrote:

  well transferring files from a pc with mcomm/laddealpha to 
dvi is facilitated by having rexmgr load tsdos.. 







  On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 2:46 PM Stephen Adolph 
 wrote:

Yep.  

What I would do is make use of the deinstall function on 
rexmgr when you want to use dvi.



Of course I dont know of many option roms that work with 
dvi anyways.



What did you want to do that requires both rex and dvi?







On Wednesday, February 26, 2020, Gregory McGill 
 wrote:

  Pretty sure I posted this a while back :)  yes they both 
want the same memory which is a bummer for transferring data between!



  On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 2:17 PM Josh Malone 
 wrote:

That has been my experience as well. It appears that 
something done by REXMGR interferes with the loading of DVI DOS. The REX can 
still be used as an option ROM, but REXMGR cannot coexist.



On Wed, Feb 26, 2020, 4:33 PM James Zeun 
 wrote:

  Does the REX work with the DVI?



  Only I'm having serious issues getting my recently 
acquired DVI to work with my M100. It only seems to function with the REX 
manger is wiped from memory.








Re: [M100] REX & DVI

2020-02-27 Thread james . zeun
Thanks buddy! Really appreciate it

Sent from my iPad

> On 27 Feb 2020, at 3:07 pm, Gregory McGill  wrote:
> 
> 
> I may have more..will check inventory today check back in a few
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 6:58 AM RETRO Innovations  
>> wrote:
>> On 2/27/2020 3:30 AM, James Zeun wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > I do desperately need a new DVI cable, can anyone help?
>> 
>> I was going to suggest ArcadeShopper's site, but it looks like he's out 
>> of stock at present.  Maybe nudge him to make some more:
>> 
>> https://www.arcadeshopper.com/wp/?page_id=11#!/Disk-Video-Interface-cable-kit-for-Models-100-102-200/p/141211030/category=28313042
>> 
>> 


Re: [M100] REX & DVI

2020-02-27 Thread Gregory McGill
I may have more..will check inventory today check back in a few


On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 6:58 AM RETRO Innovations 
wrote:

> On 2/27/2020 3:30 AM, James Zeun wrote:
> >
> >
> > I do desperately need a new DVI cable, can anyone help?
>
> I was going to suggest ArcadeShopper's site, but it looks like he's out
> of stock at present.  Maybe nudge him to make some more:
>
>
> https://www.arcadeshopper.com/wp/?page_id=11#!/Disk-Video-Interface-cable-kit-for-Models-100-102-200/p/141211030/category=28313042
>
>
>


Re: [M100] REX & DVI

2020-02-27 Thread RETRO Innovations

On 2/27/2020 3:30 AM, James Zeun wrote:



I do desperately need a new DVI cable, can anyone help?


I was going to suggest ArcadeShopper's site, but it looks like he's out 
of stock at present.  Maybe nudge him to make some more:


https://www.arcadeshopper.com/wp/?page_id=11#!/Disk-Video-Interface-cable-kit-for-Models-100-102-200/p/141211030/category=28313042




Re: [M100] REX & DVI

2020-02-27 Thread Stephen Adolph
What I think makes sense as a project is to direct efforts towards using
the Geoff VT-100 terminal emulator with M100:

http://geoffg.net/terminal.html

This would be a great complement to M100.

I think a great project would be to do some software work to rip into the
DVI code, and pull out the video only routines, and rather than drive the
DVI over the system bus, drive this "external VGA adapter" via serial.

Several of us have started to disassemble DVI code.




On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 4:30 AM James Zeun  wrote:

> That's really disappointing, I wish I had know before I bought it. The
> whole point of getting the DVI was so that I could continue working on
> documents at home on a bigger screen. I'd have just as been well to have
> taken the SD card out of my NADSbox and stuck it in a winblows PC.
>
> Anyways I won't let that dampen my spirits! I'll figure something out.
> Maybe a gotek drive in the DVI? Anyone tried that?
>
> I do desperately need a new DVI cable, can anyone help?
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, 27 Feb 2020, 12:44 am Stephen Adolph, 
> wrote:
>
>> I agree.  I dont think the issue is with rex.
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 26, 2020, Gregory McGill 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I think the answer is no which is why i put my dvi on the shelf and gave
>>> up for a bit
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 4:41 PM Stephen Adolph 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Does anyone know if tsdos is at all compatible with dvi?

 Dvi installs software of it's own.

 Does tsdos support access to the dvi?

 Can tsdos ram version be coresident with dvi software?

 If the answer is no then you have to do some serious gymnastics to
 transfer from pc to m100 using tsdos, and then from m100 to dvi using dvi
 dos.



 On Wednesday, February 26, 2020, James Zeun 
 wrote:

> Would it be possible to copy TR-DOS from the M100 to a floppy?
> Load it up through the DVI?
> I've never uninstalled a program, so not sure where F7 comes in to it.
> Could I not simply KILL the rex manager?
>
> I wanted the DVi for typing, but I need the REX for TR-DOS. So I can
> save my documents to SD CARD or TPDD etc.
>
> On Thu, 27 Feb 2020, 12:15 am Stephen Adolph, 
> wrote:
>
>> Unload means deinstall using F7.  Not remove REX.  REX can stay
>> installed physically...just deinstall rexmgr.ba.
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 26, 2020, Kurt McCullum 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> You can select TS-DOS with REX and then unload the REX manager. That
>>> way it looks to the M100 like a regular ROM is loaded and the DVI should
>>> work just fine from there.
>>>
>>> Kurt
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020, at 2:55 PM, Gregory McGill wrote:
>>>
>>> well transferring files from a pc with mcomm/laddealpha to dvi is
>>> facilitated by having rexmgr load tsdos..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 2:46 PM Stephen Adolph 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Yep.
>>> What I would do is make use of the deinstall function on rexmgr when
>>> you want to use dvi.
>>>
>>> Of course I dont know of many option roms that work with dvi anyways.
>>>
>>> What did you want to do that requires both rex and dvi?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 26, 2020, Gregory McGill <
>>> arcadeshop...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Pretty sure I posted this a while back :)  yes they both want the
>>> same memory which is a bummer for transferring data between!
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 2:17 PM Josh Malone 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> That has been my experience as well. It appears that something done
>>> by REXMGR interferes with the loading of DVI DOS. The REX can still be 
>>> used
>>> as an option ROM, but REXMGR cannot coexist.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020, 4:33 PM James Zeun 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Does the REX work with the DVI?
>>>
>>> Only I'm having serious issues getting my recently acquired DVI to
>>> work with my M100. It only seems to function with the REX manger is 
>>> wiped
>>> from memory.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>


Re: [M100] REX & DVI

2020-02-27 Thread James Zeun
That's really disappointing, I wish I had know before I bought it. The
whole point of getting the DVI was so that I could continue working on
documents at home on a bigger screen. I'd have just as been well to have
taken the SD card out of my NADSbox and stuck it in a winblows PC.

Anyways I won't let that dampen my spirits! I'll figure something out.
Maybe a gotek drive in the DVI? Anyone tried that?

I do desperately need a new DVI cable, can anyone help?





On Thu, 27 Feb 2020, 12:44 am Stephen Adolph,  wrote:

> I agree.  I dont think the issue is with rex.
>
> On Wednesday, February 26, 2020, Gregory McGill 
> wrote:
>
>> I think the answer is no which is why i put my dvi on the shelf and gave
>> up for a bit
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 4:41 PM Stephen Adolph 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyone know if tsdos is at all compatible with dvi?
>>>
>>> Dvi installs software of it's own.
>>>
>>> Does tsdos support access to the dvi?
>>>
>>> Can tsdos ram version be coresident with dvi software?
>>>
>>> If the answer is no then you have to do some serious gymnastics to
>>> transfer from pc to m100 using tsdos, and then from m100 to dvi using dvi
>>> dos.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 26, 2020, James Zeun 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Would it be possible to copy TR-DOS from the M100 to a floppy?
 Load it up through the DVI?
 I've never uninstalled a program, so not sure where F7 comes in to it.
 Could I not simply KILL the rex manager?

 I wanted the DVi for typing, but I need the REX for TR-DOS. So I can
 save my documents to SD CARD or TPDD etc.

 On Thu, 27 Feb 2020, 12:15 am Stephen Adolph, 
 wrote:

> Unload means deinstall using F7.  Not remove REX.  REX can stay
> installed physically...just deinstall rexmgr.ba.
>
> On Wednesday, February 26, 2020, Kurt McCullum 
> wrote:
>
>> You can select TS-DOS with REX and then unload the REX manager. That
>> way it looks to the M100 like a regular ROM is loaded and the DVI should
>> work just fine from there.
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020, at 2:55 PM, Gregory McGill wrote:
>>
>> well transferring files from a pc with mcomm/laddealpha to dvi is
>> facilitated by having rexmgr load tsdos..
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 2:46 PM Stephen Adolph 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Yep.
>> What I would do is make use of the deinstall function on rexmgr when
>> you want to use dvi.
>>
>> Of course I dont know of many option roms that work with dvi anyways.
>>
>> What did you want to do that requires both rex and dvi?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 26, 2020, Gregory McGill <
>> arcadeshop...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Pretty sure I posted this a while back :)  yes they both want the
>> same memory which is a bummer for transferring data between!
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 2:17 PM Josh Malone 
>> wrote:
>>
>> That has been my experience as well. It appears that something done
>> by REXMGR interferes with the loading of DVI DOS. The REX can still be 
>> used
>> as an option ROM, but REXMGR cannot coexist.
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020, 4:33 PM James Zeun 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Does the REX work with the DVI?
>>
>> Only I'm having serious issues getting my recently acquired DVI to
>> work with my M100. It only seems to function with the REX manger is wiped
>> from memory.
>>
>>
>>
>>


Re: [M100] REX & DVI

2020-02-26 Thread Stephen Adolph
I agree.  I dont think the issue is with rex.

On Wednesday, February 26, 2020, Gregory McGill 
wrote:

> I think the answer is no which is why i put my dvi on the shelf and gave
> up for a bit
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 4:41 PM Stephen Adolph 
> wrote:
>
>> Does anyone know if tsdos is at all compatible with dvi?
>>
>> Dvi installs software of it's own.
>>
>> Does tsdos support access to the dvi?
>>
>> Can tsdos ram version be coresident with dvi software?
>>
>> If the answer is no then you have to do some serious gymnastics to
>> transfer from pc to m100 using tsdos, and then from m100 to dvi using dvi
>> dos.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 26, 2020, James Zeun  wrote:
>>
>>> Would it be possible to copy TR-DOS from the M100 to a floppy?
>>> Load it up through the DVI?
>>> I've never uninstalled a program, so not sure where F7 comes in to it.
>>> Could I not simply KILL the rex manager?
>>>
>>> I wanted the DVi for typing, but I need the REX for TR-DOS. So I can
>>> save my documents to SD CARD or TPDD etc.
>>>
>>> On Thu, 27 Feb 2020, 12:15 am Stephen Adolph, 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Unload means deinstall using F7.  Not remove REX.  REX can stay
 installed physically...just deinstall rexmgr.ba.

 On Wednesday, February 26, 2020, Kurt McCullum 
 wrote:

> You can select TS-DOS with REX and then unload the REX manager. That
> way it looks to the M100 like a regular ROM is loaded and the DVI should
> work just fine from there.
>
> Kurt
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020, at 2:55 PM, Gregory McGill wrote:
>
> well transferring files from a pc with mcomm/laddealpha to dvi is
> facilitated by having rexmgr load tsdos..
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 2:46 PM Stephen Adolph 
> wrote:
>
> Yep.
> What I would do is make use of the deinstall function on rexmgr when
> you want to use dvi.
>
> Of course I dont know of many option roms that work with dvi anyways.
>
> What did you want to do that requires both rex and dvi?
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 26, 2020, Gregory McGill <
> arcadeshop...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Pretty sure I posted this a while back :)  yes they both want the same
> memory which is a bummer for transferring data between!
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 2:17 PM Josh Malone 
> wrote:
>
> That has been my experience as well. It appears that something done by
> REXMGR interferes with the loading of DVI DOS. The REX can still be used 
> as
> an option ROM, but REXMGR cannot coexist.
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020, 4:33 PM James Zeun  wrote:
>
> Does the REX work with the DVI?
>
> Only I'm having serious issues getting my recently acquired DVI to
> work with my M100. It only seems to function with the REX manger is wiped
> from memory.
>
>
>
>


Re: [M100] REX & DVI

2020-02-26 Thread Gregory McGill
I think the answer is no which is why i put my dvi on the shelf and gave up
for a bit

On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 4:41 PM Stephen Adolph  wrote:

> Does anyone know if tsdos is at all compatible with dvi?
>
> Dvi installs software of it's own.
>
> Does tsdos support access to the dvi?
>
> Can tsdos ram version be coresident with dvi software?
>
> If the answer is no then you have to do some serious gymnastics to
> transfer from pc to m100 using tsdos, and then from m100 to dvi using dvi
> dos.
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 26, 2020, James Zeun  wrote:
>
>> Would it be possible to copy TR-DOS from the M100 to a floppy?
>> Load it up through the DVI?
>> I've never uninstalled a program, so not sure where F7 comes in to it.
>> Could I not simply KILL the rex manager?
>>
>> I wanted the DVi for typing, but I need the REX for TR-DOS. So I can save
>> my documents to SD CARD or TPDD etc.
>>
>> On Thu, 27 Feb 2020, 12:15 am Stephen Adolph, 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Unload means deinstall using F7.  Not remove REX.  REX can stay
>>> installed physically...just deinstall rexmgr.ba.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 26, 2020, Kurt McCullum 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 You can select TS-DOS with REX and then unload the REX manager. That
 way it looks to the M100 like a regular ROM is loaded and the DVI should
 work just fine from there.

 Kurt

 On Wed, Feb 26, 2020, at 2:55 PM, Gregory McGill wrote:

 well transferring files from a pc with mcomm/laddealpha to dvi is
 facilitated by having rexmgr load tsdos..



 On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 2:46 PM Stephen Adolph 
 wrote:

 Yep.
 What I would do is make use of the deinstall function on rexmgr when
 you want to use dvi.

 Of course I dont know of many option roms that work with dvi anyways.

 What did you want to do that requires both rex and dvi?



 On Wednesday, February 26, 2020, Gregory McGill <
 arcadeshop...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Pretty sure I posted this a while back :)  yes they both want the same
 memory which is a bummer for transferring data between!

 On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 2:17 PM Josh Malone 
 wrote:

 That has been my experience as well. It appears that something done by
 REXMGR interferes with the loading of DVI DOS. The REX can still be used as
 an option ROM, but REXMGR cannot coexist.

 On Wed, Feb 26, 2020, 4:33 PM James Zeun  wrote:

 Does the REX work with the DVI?

 Only I'm having serious issues getting my recently acquired DVI to work
 with my M100. It only seems to function with the REX manger is wiped from
 memory.






Re: [M100] REX & DVI

2020-02-26 Thread Stephen Adolph
Does anyone know if tsdos is at all compatible with dvi?

Dvi installs software of it's own.

Does tsdos support access to the dvi?

Can tsdos ram version be coresident with dvi software?

If the answer is no then you have to do some serious gymnastics to transfer
from pc to m100 using tsdos, and then from m100 to dvi using dvi dos.



On Wednesday, February 26, 2020, James Zeun  wrote:

> Would it be possible to copy TR-DOS from the M100 to a floppy?
> Load it up through the DVI?
> I've never uninstalled a program, so not sure where F7 comes in to it.
> Could I not simply KILL the rex manager?
>
> I wanted the DVi for typing, but I need the REX for TR-DOS. So I can save
> my documents to SD CARD or TPDD etc.
>
> On Thu, 27 Feb 2020, 12:15 am Stephen Adolph, 
> wrote:
>
>> Unload means deinstall using F7.  Not remove REX.  REX can stay installed
>> physically...just deinstall rexmgr.ba.
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 26, 2020, Kurt McCullum 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> You can select TS-DOS with REX and then unload the REX manager. That way
>>> it looks to the M100 like a regular ROM is loaded and the DVI should work
>>> just fine from there.
>>>
>>> Kurt
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020, at 2:55 PM, Gregory McGill wrote:
>>>
>>> well transferring files from a pc with mcomm/laddealpha to dvi is
>>> facilitated by having rexmgr load tsdos..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 2:46 PM Stephen Adolph 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Yep.
>>> What I would do is make use of the deinstall function on rexmgr when you
>>> want to use dvi.
>>>
>>> Of course I dont know of many option roms that work with dvi anyways.
>>>
>>> What did you want to do that requires both rex and dvi?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 26, 2020, Gregory McGill 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Pretty sure I posted this a while back :)  yes they both want the same
>>> memory which is a bummer for transferring data between!
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 2:17 PM Josh Malone 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> That has been my experience as well. It appears that something done by
>>> REXMGR interferes with the loading of DVI DOS. The REX can still be used as
>>> an option ROM, but REXMGR cannot coexist.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020, 4:33 PM James Zeun  wrote:
>>>
>>> Does the REX work with the DVI?
>>>
>>> Only I'm having serious issues getting my recently acquired DVI to work
>>> with my M100. It only seems to function with the REX manger is wiped from
>>> memory.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>


Re: [M100] REX & DVI

2020-02-26 Thread James Zeun
Would it be possible to copy TR-DOS from the M100 to a floppy?
Load it up through the DVI?
I've never uninstalled a program, so not sure where F7 comes in to it.
Could I not simply KILL the rex manager?

I wanted the DVi for typing, but I need the REX for TR-DOS. So I can save
my documents to SD CARD or TPDD etc.

On Thu, 27 Feb 2020, 12:15 am Stephen Adolph,  wrote:

> Unload means deinstall using F7.  Not remove REX.  REX can stay installed
> physically...just deinstall rexmgr.ba.
>
> On Wednesday, February 26, 2020, Kurt McCullum  wrote:
>
>> You can select TS-DOS with REX and then unload the REX manager. That way
>> it looks to the M100 like a regular ROM is loaded and the DVI should work
>> just fine from there.
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020, at 2:55 PM, Gregory McGill wrote:
>>
>> well transferring files from a pc with mcomm/laddealpha to dvi is
>> facilitated by having rexmgr load tsdos..
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 2:46 PM Stephen Adolph 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Yep.
>> What I would do is make use of the deinstall function on rexmgr when you
>> want to use dvi.
>>
>> Of course I dont know of many option roms that work with dvi anyways.
>>
>> What did you want to do that requires both rex and dvi?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 26, 2020, Gregory McGill 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Pretty sure I posted this a while back :)  yes they both want the same
>> memory which is a bummer for transferring data between!
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 2:17 PM Josh Malone 
>> wrote:
>>
>> That has been my experience as well. It appears that something done by
>> REXMGR interferes with the loading of DVI DOS. The REX can still be used as
>> an option ROM, but REXMGR cannot coexist.
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020, 4:33 PM James Zeun  wrote:
>>
>> Does the REX work with the DVI?
>>
>> Only I'm having serious issues getting my recently acquired DVI to work
>> with my M100. It only seems to function with the REX manger is wiped from
>> memory.
>>
>>
>>
>>


Re: [M100] REX & DVI

2020-02-26 Thread Stephen Adolph
Unload means deinstall using F7.  Not remove REX.  REX can stay installed
physically...just deinstall rexmgr.ba.

On Wednesday, February 26, 2020, Kurt McCullum  wrote:

> You can select TS-DOS with REX and then unload the REX manager. That way
> it looks to the M100 like a regular ROM is loaded and the DVI should work
> just fine from there.
>
> Kurt
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020, at 2:55 PM, Gregory McGill wrote:
>
> well transferring files from a pc with mcomm/laddealpha to dvi is
> facilitated by having rexmgr load tsdos..
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 2:46 PM Stephen Adolph 
> wrote:
>
> Yep.
> What I would do is make use of the deinstall function on rexmgr when you
> want to use dvi.
>
> Of course I dont know of many option roms that work with dvi anyways.
>
> What did you want to do that requires both rex and dvi?
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 26, 2020, Gregory McGill 
> wrote:
>
> Pretty sure I posted this a while back :)  yes they both want the same
> memory which is a bummer for transferring data between!
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 2:17 PM Josh Malone  wrote:
>
> That has been my experience as well. It appears that something done by
> REXMGR interferes with the loading of DVI DOS. The REX can still be used as
> an option ROM, but REXMGR cannot coexist.
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020, 4:33 PM James Zeun  wrote:
>
> Does the REX work with the DVI?
>
> Only I'm having serious issues getting my recently acquired DVI to work
> with my M100. It only seems to function with the REX manger is wiped from
> memory.
>
>
>
>


Re: [M100] REX & DVI

2020-02-26 Thread Gregory McGill
sounds so easy when you say it like that :)

On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 3:42 PM Stephen Adolph  wrote:

> ...what he said!;)
>
> On Wednesday, February 26, 2020, Kurt McCullum  wrote:
>
>> You can select TS-DOS with REX and then unload the REX manager. That way
>> it looks to the M100 like a regular ROM is loaded and the DVI should work
>> just fine from there.
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020, at 2:55 PM, Gregory McGill wrote:
>>
>> well transferring files from a pc with mcomm/laddealpha to dvi is
>> facilitated by having rexmgr load tsdos..
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 2:46 PM Stephen Adolph 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Yep.
>> What I would do is make use of the deinstall function on rexmgr when you
>> want to use dvi.
>>
>> Of course I dont know of many option roms that work with dvi anyways.
>>
>> What did you want to do that requires both rex and dvi?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 26, 2020, Gregory McGill 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Pretty sure I posted this a while back :)  yes they both want the same
>> memory which is a bummer for transferring data between!
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 2:17 PM Josh Malone 
>> wrote:
>>
>> That has been my experience as well. It appears that something done by
>> REXMGR interferes with the loading of DVI DOS. The REX can still be used as
>> an option ROM, but REXMGR cannot coexist.
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020, 4:33 PM James Zeun  wrote:
>>
>> Does the REX work with the DVI?
>>
>> Only I'm having serious issues getting my recently acquired DVI to work
>> with my M100. It only seems to function with the REX manger is wiped from
>> memory.
>>
>>
>>
>>


Re: [M100] REX & DVI

2020-02-26 Thread Stephen Adolph
...what he said!;)

On Wednesday, February 26, 2020, Kurt McCullum  wrote:

> You can select TS-DOS with REX and then unload the REX manager. That way
> it looks to the M100 like a regular ROM is loaded and the DVI should work
> just fine from there.
>
> Kurt
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020, at 2:55 PM, Gregory McGill wrote:
>
> well transferring files from a pc with mcomm/laddealpha to dvi is
> facilitated by having rexmgr load tsdos..
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 2:46 PM Stephen Adolph 
> wrote:
>
> Yep.
> What I would do is make use of the deinstall function on rexmgr when you
> want to use dvi.
>
> Of course I dont know of many option roms that work with dvi anyways.
>
> What did you want to do that requires both rex and dvi?
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 26, 2020, Gregory McGill 
> wrote:
>
> Pretty sure I posted this a while back :)  yes they both want the same
> memory which is a bummer for transferring data between!
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 2:17 PM Josh Malone  wrote:
>
> That has been my experience as well. It appears that something done by
> REXMGR interferes with the loading of DVI DOS. The REX can still be used as
> an option ROM, but REXMGR cannot coexist.
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020, 4:33 PM James Zeun  wrote:
>
> Does the REX work with the DVI?
>
> Only I'm having serious issues getting my recently acquired DVI to work
> with my M100. It only seems to function with the REX manger is wiped from
> memory.
>
>
>
>


Re: [M100] REX & DVI

2020-02-26 Thread Kurt McCullum
You can select TS-DOS with REX and then unload the REX manager. That way it 
looks to the M100 like a regular ROM is loaded and the DVI should work just 
fine from there.

Kurt

On Wed, Feb 26, 2020, at 2:55 PM, Gregory McGill wrote:
> well transferring files from a pc with mcomm/laddealpha to dvi is facilitated 
> by having rexmgr load tsdos.. 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 2:46 PM Stephen Adolph  wrote:
>> Yep. 
>> What I would do is make use of the deinstall function on rexmgr when you 
>> want to use dvi.
>> 
>> Of course I dont know of many option roms that work with dvi anyways.
>> 
>> What did you want to do that requires both rex and dvi?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Wednesday, February 26, 2020, Gregory McGill  
>> wrote:
>>> Pretty sure I posted this a while back :) yes they both want the same 
>>> memory which is a bummer for transferring data between!
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 2:17 PM Josh Malone  wrote:
 That has been my experience as well. It appears that something done by 
 REXMGR interferes with the loading of DVI DOS. The REX can still be used 
 as an option ROM, but REXMGR cannot coexist.
 
 On Wed, Feb 26, 2020, 4:33 PM James Zeun  wrote:
> Does the REX work with the DVI?
> 
> Only I'm having serious issues getting my recently acquired DVI to work 
> with my M100. It only seems to function with the REX manger is wiped from 
> memory.
> 
> 


Re: [M100] REX & DVI

2020-02-26 Thread Gregory McGill
well transferring files from a pc with mcomm/laddealpha to dvi is
facilitated by having rexmgr load tsdos..



On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 2:46 PM Stephen Adolph  wrote:

> Yep.
> What I would do is make use of the deinstall function on rexmgr when you
> want to use dvi.
>
> Of course I dont know of many option roms that work with dvi anyways.
>
> What did you want to do that requires both rex and dvi?
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 26, 2020, Gregory McGill 
> wrote:
>
>> Pretty sure I posted this a while back :)  yes they both want the same
>> memory which is a bummer for transferring data between!
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 2:17 PM Josh Malone 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> That has been my experience as well. It appears that something done by
>>> REXMGR interferes with the loading of DVI DOS. The REX can still be used as
>>> an option ROM, but REXMGR cannot coexist.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020, 4:33 PM James Zeun  wrote:
>>>
 Does the REX work with the DVI?

 Only I'm having serious issues getting my recently acquired DVI to work
 with my M100. It only seems to function with the REX manger is wiped from
 memory.





Re: [M100] REX & DVI

2020-02-26 Thread Stephen Adolph
Yep.
What I would do is make use of the deinstall function on rexmgr when you
want to use dvi.

Of course I dont know of many option roms that work with dvi anyways.

What did you want to do that requires both rex and dvi?



On Wednesday, February 26, 2020, Gregory McGill 
wrote:

> Pretty sure I posted this a while back :)  yes they both want the same
> memory which is a bummer for transferring data between!
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 2:17 PM Josh Malone  wrote:
>
>> That has been my experience as well. It appears that something done by
>> REXMGR interferes with the loading of DVI DOS. The REX can still be used as
>> an option ROM, but REXMGR cannot coexist.
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020, 4:33 PM James Zeun  wrote:
>>
>>> Does the REX work with the DVI?
>>>
>>> Only I'm having serious issues getting my recently acquired DVI to work
>>> with my M100. It only seems to function with the REX manger is wiped from
>>> memory.
>>>
>>>
>>>


Re: [M100] REX & DVI

2020-02-26 Thread Gregory McGill
Pretty sure I posted this a while back :)  yes they both want the same
memory which is a bummer for transferring data between!

On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 2:17 PM Josh Malone  wrote:

> That has been my experience as well. It appears that something done by
> REXMGR interferes with the loading of DVI DOS. The REX can still be used as
> an option ROM, but REXMGR cannot coexist.
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020, 4:33 PM James Zeun  wrote:
>
>> Does the REX work with the DVI?
>>
>> Only I'm having serious issues getting my recently acquired DVI to work
>> with my M100. It only seems to function with the REX manger is wiped from
>> memory.
>>
>>
>>


Re: [M100] REX & DVI

2020-02-26 Thread Josh Malone
That has been my experience as well. It appears that something done by
REXMGR interferes with the loading of DVI DOS. The REX can still be used as
an option ROM, but REXMGR cannot coexist.

On Wed, Feb 26, 2020, 4:33 PM James Zeun  wrote:

> Does the REX work with the DVI?
>
> Only I'm having serious issues getting my recently acquired DVI to work
> with my M100. It only seems to function with the REX manger is wiped from
> memory.
>
>
>