Increasing volume on Podcasts

[David Griffith]

I have Changed subject line.
Just for information the Mac version of Mp3Gain is free,  and completely
accessible with Voiceover under Lion at least. Someone who has ML could test
it I guess.
I routinely run Mp3Gain on mp3 files that I need to increase the volume of.
In particular I find Calibre audio books often too quiet as well as
Podcasts.
It is better if the original is not too quiet I agree  but it is an option.
I also use if I have made a recording and I have not been able to get that
close to the person talking for example.

David Griffith

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth
Sent: 29 July 2012 20:23
To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Fleksy [Revisited]

I can duplicate. no disrespect to David, but please adjust the volume of 
your podcasts, or I will have trouble listening to them. Thanks!
- Original Message - 
From: "Gordon Smith" 
To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: Fleksy [Revisited]


Hi Esther

Is it me, my system or have others also noticed that the audio on David's 
podcasts is absolutely dreadful?  I can hardly hear what he's saying at 
times.  The intro audio came over at normal volume so I don't think it is 
something this end.

Gordon


On 28 Jul 2012, at 23:21, Esther  wrote:

Hi Gordon and Others,

Just to correct the name of the author of the Fleksy podcast Dennis 
mentioned as David "Woodbridge":
. Fleksy release demo July 2012:
http://davidwoodbr.podbean.com/2012/07/13/fleksy-release-demo-july-2012/
Sarah also did a Fleksy podcast that you can listen to at:
http://tffp.marrie.org/486

As Geoff stated, the updated help for the current version, which has 
additional features for using symbols and corrections for some of the 
version 1 limitations, support for import/export options, and a few other 
fixes, may be found in the app.  Probably the most important information is 
to keep typing without waiting to hear the letters announced and just assume

that the app will identify the word you typed in one of the selections that 
you flick through.  Occasionally there will just be certain words that 
aren't in it's dictionary, and you will have to slowly type and add these 
in. Or certain long, and complicated words will better be entered if you 
carefully find the first few letters, then revert to just "guessing" the 
positions of the other letters.

I think the current version is not really optimized for the iPad, and you'll

find if you explore the keyboard that the layout of the Fleksy keyboard 
occupies a much larger portion of the screen than you're used to using, so 
you have to "exaggerate" the placement of the keys in your touch gestures to

use this at present.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Jul 28, 2012, at 11:42 AM, Dennis Freedman wrote:

> Hi Gordon
>
> I hope you got my text message about the Podcast that David Bridgewood 
> did, but I'm sure you'll find it if not.
>
> Thanks to all, their replies were concise and should give you everything 
> you need. But, having been there myself, perhaps a bit more explanation is

> needed, with apologies to others on the list.
>
> I think it's the concept that is strange until you actually use it. After 
> pressing the Home button three times to turn VoiceOver off, you have to 
> imagine the blank screen is an invisible keyboard. Place your fingers 
> where you think the qwerty keys home row should be, and, if you're a touch

> typist, go from there using all your fingers. I find it easier in 
> Landscape mode so lock Fleksy in Landscape via the Fleksy Settings dialog 
> in the main Settings app. But I know people who use Fleksy with only one 
> or two fingers, 'guessing' roughly where the qwerty keys would be.
>
> So you've turned VoiceOver off, got Fleksy in either Portrait or Landscape

> mode according to your preference. You can check you've got it right using

> the fact that a left flick will tell you there's no text to delete. (If 
> the keyboard's the wrong way round, turn it round till a left flick boings

> at you to show no more text to delete).
> Decide on whether you're going to actually touch type or use one or two 
> fingers. Use a word like 'bananas' as it's a good pattern to start with.
>
> With the bottom edge of the IPhone near you, imagine the Home row a little

> way up. So the B A N A N A s will be easy for you to imagine. Just press 
> where you think the B will be (bottom row, nearly at the halfway point on 
> the left side of the row), then tap the place as on a typewriter keyboard 
> and immediately lift your finger off the key. You won't get feedback but 
> should here a slight keyclick. (I do find I have to have volume turned up 
> when typing in a noisy environment).
>
> Now type the other keys - quicker I find is better. So A over to the left 
> but a little higher as it would be on the Home row. N back on where the 
> bottom row would be but

Re: Reminder Help

[Eric Caron]

Hi Jane,

I did two podcasts on using the Reminders app.  they are at 
applevis.com.  I'll post the links below.  i did these podcasts to make using 
the app easier for other blind iPhone users.  I like the app but it was a 
challenge for me to learn at first.

Hope this helps.

Eric Caron 

http://www.applevis.com/podcasts/episodes/using-reminders-create-and-manage-tasks-and-lists

> http://www.applevis.com/podcasts/episodes/exploring-some-advanced-features-reminders-app
> 

On Jul 27, 2012, at 9:46 PM, Jane wrote:

> I have the Reminders app on my iPod, but I have no idea how to use it, not 
> really. I usually just email myself notes.  My daughter starts school in a 
> month or so, and there are other things we have to get done before that that 
> I want reminders to pop up about--tests we have to make sure she takes, times 
> I can check on what she's up to, and so on.  So, how do I use Reminders to do 
> this?  Some will need to be recurring reminders, like to check on her work 
> each day and on her progress updates from instructors each week or two, so 
> they will need to be recurring. Others will probably need to be entered in 
> once and then forgotten.
> 
> Any help with this is appreciated.
> 
> Jane
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Re: for me: cmd accent and cmd shift accent in some apps does not work for cycling through windows

[Sarah Alawami]

It's the sound you normally hear if you try and excite a vo command with vo 
off. What's supposed to happen is you are supposed to hear cycle through 
windows. It works in the finder fine.  and I just did a permissions repair but 
no joy. Still does network in mail, or yorufukurou, or amadeus. Odd eh? I 
wonder what could be causing this.
On Jul 29, 2012, at 8:57 PM, Zachary Kline  wrote:

> I have no idea. :-( I've never heard that sounded all when using that 
> particular command. Sorry.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Jul 29, 2012, at 8:35 PM, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
> 
>> Hmm strange. I get the bong sound when I try. This is very strange. i do use 
>> the window choosier but that gets old fast. I might do a permissions repair 
>> to see if that helps. Take care   all
>> On Jul 29, 2012, at 8:31 PM, Zachary Kline  wrote:
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>>> I don't have Amadeus Pro, but mail and all other apps have works just fine 
>>> forever. you could always try using the window choose your menu, with VO – 
>>> F2.
>>> Yours,
>>> Zack.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Jul 29, 2012, at 8:22 PM, Dan Eickmeier  wrote:
>>> 
 Hmmm, interesting.  Just tried it in Amadeus pro, as well as in mail,  and 
 it works fine here.  
 On 2012-07-29, at 10:51 PM, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
 
> Hello to all. Is it just me or does the cmd accent and cmd shift accent 
> in some apps like mail not work for cycling between windows. I can't even 
> get it to work in amadeus pro. I there a work around or a setting I need 
> to unable? it's not a show stopper. I can use the window chooser but I 
> miss that key stroke. lol.
> 
> Take care all and if this is fixed by just a reboot I can do that easily. 
> lol!
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Re: for me: cmd accent and cmd shift accent in some apps does not work for cycling through windows

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I have no idea. :-( I've never heard that sounded all when using that 
particular command. Sorry.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 29, 2012, at 8:35 PM, Sarah Alawami  wrote:

> Hmm strange. I ge the bong sound when I try. This is very strange. i do use 
> the window choosier but that gets old fast. I might do a permissions repair 
> to see if that helps. Take care   all
> On Jul 29, 2012, at 8:31 PM, Zachary Kline  wrote:
> 
>> I don't have Amadeus Pro, but mail and all other apps have works just fine 
>> forever. you could always try using the window choose your menu, with VO – 
>> F2.
>> Yours,
>> Zack.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jul 29, 2012, at 8:22 PM, Dan Eickmeier  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hmmm, interesting.  Just tried it in Amadeus pro, as well as in mail,  and 
>>> it works fine here.  
>>> On 2012-07-29, at 10:51 PM, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
>>> 
 Hello to all. Is it just me or does the cmd accent and cmd shift accent in 
 some apps like mail not work for cycling between windows. I can't even get 
 it to work in amadeus pro. I there a work around or a setting I need to 
 unable? it's not a show stopper. I can use the window chooser but I miss 
 that key stroke. lol.
 
 Take care all and if this is fixed by just a reboot I can do that easily. 
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Re: opology please read

[krystal watson]

true but how do we get there email adress i mean this list is like good at 
keeping peoples email adresses private i mean i feel that its mean to not thank 
others any way sorry its just the way i have been broght up if some one helps 
you you say thanks and help them if you can if you don't thank them how do they 
know you are thankfull of there help and time 
On 30/07/2012, at 1:44 PM, Thomas McMahan  wrote:

> WEll there is a solution, which guess we all need to remember, if a simple 
> thanks or whatever, just e-mail the person directly perhaps?  
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> I think it's something many of us do without thinking about it, and yet it 
> does increase traffic through the list thus filling up the archive on any 
> given subject.  
> On Jul 29, 2012, at 7:40 PM, krystal watson  
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>> hi all i am writing to say that i am sorry for sometimes cluttering up the 
>> list with the email like for example thanks i will try that 
>> 
>> how ever i feel it nice to thank others for there help but each to there own 
>> take care and i am sorry if i have made any one upset 
>> please note i do understand this is a list but i do know i am guilty of 
>> doing this a few times so i am sorry for this thanks for taking the time to 
>> read this message take care all Î
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Re: opology please read

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WEll there is a solution, which guess we all need to remember, if a simple 
thanks or whatever, just e-mail the person directly perhaps?  

I think it's something many of us do without thinking about it, and yet it does 
increase traffic through the list thus filling up the archive on any given 
subject.  
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> hi all i am writing to say that i am sorry for sometimes cluttering up the 
> list with the email like for example thanks i will try that 
> 
> how ever i feel it nice to thank others for there help but each to there own 
> take care and i am sorry if i have made any one upset 
> please note i do understand this is a list but i do know i am guilty of doing 
> this a few times so i am sorry for this thanks for taking the time to read 
> this message take care all Î

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Re: for me: cmd accent and cmd shift accent in some apps does not work for cycling through windows

[Sarah Alawami]

Hmm strange. I ge the bong sound when I try. This is very strange. i do use the 
window choosier but that gets old fast. I might do a permissions repair to see 
if that helps. Take care   all
On Jul 29, 2012, at 8:31 PM, Zachary Kline  wrote:

> I don't have Amadeus Pro, but mail and all other apps have works just fine 
> forever. you could always try using the window choose your menu, with VO – F2.
> Yours,
> Zack.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jul 29, 2012, at 8:22 PM, Dan Eickmeier  wrote:
> 
>> Hmmm, interesting.  Just tried it in Amadeus pro, as well as in mail,  and 
>> it works fine here.  
>> On 2012-07-29, at 10:51 PM, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello to all. Is it just me or does the cmd accent and cmd shift accent in 
>>> some apps like mail not work for cycling between windows. I can't even get 
>>> it to work in amadeus pro. I there a work around or a setting I need to 
>>> unable? it's not a show stopper. I can use the window chooser but I miss 
>>> that key stroke. lol.
>>> 
>>> Take care all and if this is fixed by just a reboot I can do that easily. 
>>> lol!
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Re: for me: cmd accent and cmd shift accent in some apps does not work for cycling through windows

[Zachary Kline]

I don't have Amadeus Pro, but mail and all other apps have works just fine 
forever. you could always try using the window choose your menu, with VO – F2.
Yours,
Zack.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 29, 2012, at 8:22 PM, Dan Eickmeier  wrote:

> Hmmm, interesting.  Just tried it in Amadeus pro, as well as in mail,  and it 
> works fine here.  
> On 2012-07-29, at 10:51 PM, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
> 
>> Hello to all. Is it just me or does the cmd accent and cmd shift accent in 
>> some apps like mail not work for cycling between windows. I can't even get 
>> it to work in amadeus pro. I there a work around or a setting I need to 
>> unable? it's not a show stopper. I can use the window chooser but I miss 
>> that key stroke. lol.
>> 
>> Take care all and if this is fixed by just a reboot I can do that easily. 
>> lol!
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Re: for me: cmd accent and cmd shift accent in some apps does not work for cycling through windows

[Dan Eickmeier]

Hmmm, interesting.  Just tried it in Amadeus pro, as well as in mail,  and it 
works fine here.  
On 2012-07-29, at 10:51 PM, Sarah Alawami  wrote:

> Hello to all. Is it just me or does the cmd accent and cmd shift accent in 
> some apps like mail not work for cycling between windows. I can't even get it 
> to work in amadeus pro. I there a work around or a setting I need to unable? 
> it's not a show stopper. I can use the window chooser but I miss that key 
> stroke. lol.
> 
> Take care all and if this is fixed by just a reboot I can do that easily. lol!
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for me: cmd accent and cmd shift accent in some apps does not work for cycling through windows

[Sarah Alawami]

Hello to all. Is it just me or does the cmd accent and cmd shift accent in some 
apps like mail not work for cycling between windows. I can't even get it to 
work in amadeus pro. I there a work around or a setting I need to unable? it's 
not a show stopper. I can use the window chooser but I miss that key stroke. 
lol.

Take care all and if this is fixed by just a reboot I can do that easily. lol!
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Re: the recovery tool

[Sarah Alawami]

Thanks will take a look. and will keep you posted.

take care all.
On Jul 29, 2012, at 7:29 PM, Esther  wrote:

> Hi Sarah,
> 
> The Knowledge Base page on using Apple's Recovery Disk Assistant is here:
> http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4848
> 
> The recovery tool doesn't get copied to the flash drive.  It will wipe the 
> contents of your flash drive though, I believe.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Esther
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>> Hello to all. question.  Do I need to copy the recovery tool to the flash 
>> drive first or what do I need to do to get this to work. I don't want to 
>> lose any data on my internal drive. Any help please? Thanks.
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Re: the recovery tool

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Hi Sarah,

The Knowledge Base page on using Apple's Recovery Disk Assistant is here:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4848

The recovery tool doesn't get copied to the flash drive.  It will wipe the 
contents of your flash drive though, I believe.

Cheers,

Esther

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Hello to all. question.  Do I need to copy the recovery tool to the flash drive 
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ML Mail question.

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This may have been covered but under Lion, I could tab/shift tab between folder 
and message tables which made it very easy and quick to go through my various 
accounts and rule set folders. Since ML, I either have to do 5 tab/shift tabs 
to go from a message list to folder list or uninteract twice and shift tab 
twice or vo command shift and then vo command t. Obviously, I can vo command j 
to jump from the folder list to interact with the message table and between 
message and text but wondered if there was something I'm missing for a quick 
way to move between the folder table and the message table. It isn't a big 
thing but to save myself a handful of extra key strokes over time really adds 
up.

Also, is it just me who is noticing a huge improvement in vo shift home in 
putting you at the top of the message list? This used to drive me nuts as half 
the time I'd end up at the tool bar.

Anyway, thanks to all for such a wonderful source of invaluable information.

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Re: saving birthday information in adress book

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well it works in contacts and its ok as i have a app to remind me just didn't 
want to have to add people to it that i had in my contacts already thanks for 
all of your help and i am sorry if i cause a lot of list trafic 
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> No i believe you save it in the calendar. then you can have it remind you. 
> but since I don't really wish anyone a happy birthday as I always forget to 
> add said birthdays you will have to find the birthdays calendar and try and 
> add them.
> 
> I don't know how to set the notifications unto do this but I know it can be 
> done as I'v seen it whilst on skype with someone who did just this.
> 
> Take care.
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>> Hi there!
>> In address book go to the menu vo+m or Control+f2 and arrow to card and down 
>> arrow to add field sub menu and in there is birthday as well as others!
>> I suppose there will be a version in the contacts on Mountain Kitty!
>> Colin
>> 
>> On 28 Jul 2012, at 22:42, krystal watson wrote:
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>>> is it possible to save contacts birthday information in address book or 
>>> contacts if so where do you save it? like there is no field for it thanks 
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Re: olearia

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Interesting... will have a look at that, too.

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>> Hmmm... shouldn't be that hard to register it. Will have a look and
>> see what's going on. Thanks! :)
>>
>> On 7/29/12, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
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>>> this
>>> case i don't think your computer app is. In fact I don't think you can
>>> read
>>> bard books on any computer device.
>>>
>>> Take care.
>>> On Jul 29, 2012, at 3:12 AM, josh gregory  wrote:
>>>
 Hi;

 I've gotten olearia, looks pretty accessible. I've downloaded a book
 from bard, (braille and audio reding service) Now, how do I import it
 into Olearia? I can listen to it on my braillenote, but can't figure
 how to get the folder into Olearia. Any help would be appreciated.
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I don't think there is a way to register a piece of software for bard. It's 
only hard ward as far as I've seen. You will have to contact them and see what 
they say as I only use hardware players and my knowledge is quite limited on 
this stuff lol!

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> Hmmm... shouldn't be that hard to register it. Will have a look and
> see what's going on. Thanks! :)
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> On 7/29/12, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
>> I don't think you can. You have to register the thing for bard and in this
>> case i don't think your computer app is. In fact I don't think you can read
>> bard books on any computer device.
>> 
>> Take care.
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>>> Hi;
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>>> I've gotten olearia, looks pretty accessible. I've downloaded a book
>>> from bard, (braille and audio reding service) Now, how do I import it
>>> into Olearia? I can listen to it on my braillenote, but can't figure
>>> how to get the folder into Olearia. Any help would be appreciated.
>>> Thanks in advance!
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Re: RSS reader. Free and accessible

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This also works and it's also free and very very accessible. I don't have 
trouble ewith it at all and the devs are wonderful to work with.

http://www.vienna-rss.org

Both work equally well. 

Take care.
On Jul 29, 2012, at 12:11 PM, Daniela Rubio T  wrote:

> Hello!
> Here we have an RSS reader which is free and accessible.
> Hope you like it.
> http://www.grumlapp.com/downloads/gruml.dmg
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Re: just thought i'd say hi

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Welcome Amy.  I would have replied off list but forgot where in my menus to 
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all came through no problems smile

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hi all, sending a message again hope it gets through. just thought i'd 
introduce myself i'm new to the list and i've been using a mac for nearly 
2 years and it's my main machine. i'd never go back to using windows 
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Re: questions about skype?

[josh gregory]

 by status: Do you mean if they go online or offline or status text?
If online or offline, yes. Go to preferences with command comma,
select notifications, go into the table, select both when a contact
becomes available or unavailable, and check the boxes for speak event.
If I have this wrong, someone please correct me.

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> different status changes?
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Re: Fleksy [Revisited]

[Chris Moore]

Gordon,

I agree, David is very softly spoken and VO always seems to be much louder than 
himself.  It is my only criticism though as I feel he provides some excellent 
tutorials.

Chris 
On 29 Jul 2012, at 18:58, Gordon Smith  wrote:

> Hi Esther
> 
> Is it me, my system or have others also noticed that the audio on David's 
> podcasts is absolutely dreadful?  I can hardly hear what he's saying at 
> times.  The intro audio came over at normal volume so I don't think it is 
> something this end.
> 
> Gordon
> 
> 
> On 28 Jul 2012, at 23:21, Esther  wrote:
> 
> Hi Gordon and Others,
> 
> Just to correct the name of the author of the Fleksy podcast Dennis mentioned 
> as David "Woodbridge":
> • Fleksy release demo July 2012:
> http://davidwoodbr.podbean.com/2012/07/13/fleksy-release-demo-july-2012/
> Sarah also did a Fleksy podcast that you can listen to at:
> http://tffp.marrie.org/486
> 
> As Geoff stated, the updated help for the current version, which has 
> additional features for using symbols and corrections for some of the version 
> 1 limitations, support for import/export options, and a few other fixes, may 
> be found in the app.  Probably the most important information is to keep 
> typing without waiting to hear the letters announced and just assume that the 
> app will identify the word you typed in one of the selections that you flick 
> through.  Occasionally there will just be certain words that aren't in it's 
> dictionary, and you will have to slowly type and add these in. Or certain 
> long, and complicated words will better be entered if you carefully find the 
> first few letters, then revert to just "guessing" the positions of the other 
> letters. 
> 
> I think the current version is not really optimized for the iPad, and you'll 
> find if you explore the keyboard that the layout of the Fleksy keyboard 
> occupies a much larger portion of the screen than you're used to using, so 
> you have to "exaggerate" the placement of the keys in your touch gestures to 
> use this at present.
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Jul 28, 2012, at 11:42 AM, Dennis Freedman wrote:
> 
>> Hi Gordon
>> 
>> I hope you got my text message about the Podcast that David Bridgewood did, 
>> but I'm sure you'll find it if not.
>> 
>> Thanks to all, their replies were concise and should give you everything you 
>> need. But, having been there myself, perhaps a bit more explanation is 
>> needed, with apologies to others on the list.
>> 
>> I think it's the concept that is strange until you actually use it. After 
>> pressing the Home button three times to turn VoiceOver off, you have to 
>> imagine the blank screen is an invisible keyboard. Place your fingers where 
>> you think the qwerty keys home row should be, and, if you're a touch typist, 
>> go from there using all your fingers. I find it easier in Landscape mode so 
>> lock Fleksy in Landscape via the Fleksy Settings dialog in the main Settings 
>> app. But I know people who use Fleksy with only one or two fingers, 
>> 'guessing' roughly where the qwerty keys would be.
>> 
>> So you've turned VoiceOver off, got Fleksy in either Portrait or Landscape 
>> mode according to your preference. You can check you've got it right using 
>> the fact that a left flick will tell you there's no text to delete. (If the 
>> keyboard's the wrong way round, turn it round till a left flick boings at 
>> you to show no more text to delete).
>> Decide on whether you're going to actually touch type or use one or two 
>> fingers. Use a word like 'bananas' as it's a good pattern to start with.
>> 
>> With the bottom edge of the IPhone near you, imagine the Home row a little 
>> way up. So the B A N A N A s will be easy for you to imagine. Just press 
>> where you think the B will be (bottom row, nearly at the halfway point on 
>> the left side of the row), then tap the place as on a typewriter keyboard 
>> and immediately lift your finger off the key. You won't get feedback but 
>> should here a slight keyclick. (I do find I have to have volume turned up 
>> when typing in a noisy environment).
>> 
>> Now type the other keys - quicker I find is better. So A over to the left 
>> but a little higher as it would be on the Home row. N back on where the 
>> bottom row would be but a little over to the right. Etc. Etc. It's much 
>> easier if you are actually a touch typist but not difficult once you get the 
>> hang of it if you're not.
>> 
>> Once you've typed all the letters of the word in, flick to the right instead 
>> of pressing a space bar (this does take a bit of getting used to). This 
>> brings up the 'Suggestions' list, and, with any luck your first word should 
>> be 'bananas'. Accept this and you're ready to type the next word. No need to 
>> press anything. After the word is spoken, just carry on typing. If it gess 
>> the word wrong, flick Down until Fleksy says the word you want; Up if you 
>> pass the word.
>> 
>> And you're on your way.
>> 
>> As said, if you

questions about skype?

[mike]

Hi,

I have skype installed as their any good ways to get vo to tell me the
different status changes?

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Re: Fleksy [Revisited]

[chris hallsworth]

I can duplicate. no disrespect to David, but please adjust the volume of 
your podcasts, or I will have trouble listening to them. Thanks!
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Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: Fleksy [Revisited]


Hi Esther

Is it me, my system or have others also noticed that the audio on David's 
podcasts is absolutely dreadful?  I can hardly hear what he's saying at 
times.  The intro audio came over at normal volume so I don't think it is 
something this end.


Gordon


On 28 Jul 2012, at 23:21, Esther  wrote:

Hi Gordon and Others,

Just to correct the name of the author of the Fleksy podcast Dennis 
mentioned as David "Woodbridge":

• Fleksy release demo July 2012:
http://davidwoodbr.podbean.com/2012/07/13/fleksy-release-demo-july-2012/
Sarah also did a Fleksy podcast that you can listen to at:
http://tffp.marrie.org/486

As Geoff stated, the updated help for the current version, which has 
additional features for using symbols and corrections for some of the 
version 1 limitations, support for import/export options, and a few other 
fixes, may be found in the app.  Probably the most important information is 
to keep typing without waiting to hear the letters announced and just assume 
that the app will identify the word you typed in one of the selections that 
you flick through.  Occasionally there will just be certain words that 
aren't in it's dictionary, and you will have to slowly type and add these 
in. Or certain long, and complicated words will better be entered if you 
carefully find the first few letters, then revert to just "guessing" the 
positions of the other letters.


I think the current version is not really optimized for the iPad, and you'll 
find if you explore the keyboard that the layout of the Fleksy keyboard 
occupies a much larger portion of the screen than you're used to using, so 
you have to "exaggerate" the placement of the keys in your touch gestures to 
use this at present.


HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Jul 28, 2012, at 11:42 AM, Dennis Freedman wrote:


Hi Gordon

I hope you got my text message about the Podcast that David Bridgewood 
did, but I'm sure you'll find it if not.


Thanks to all, their replies were concise and should give you everything 
you need. But, having been there myself, perhaps a bit more explanation is 
needed, with apologies to others on the list.


I think it's the concept that is strange until you actually use it. After 
pressing the Home button three times to turn VoiceOver off, you have to 
imagine the blank screen is an invisible keyboard. Place your fingers 
where you think the qwerty keys home row should be, and, if you're a touch 
typist, go from there using all your fingers. I find it easier in 
Landscape mode so lock Fleksy in Landscape via the Fleksy Settings dialog 
in the main Settings app. But I know people who use Fleksy with only one 
or two fingers, 'guessing' roughly where the qwerty keys would be.


So you've turned VoiceOver off, got Fleksy in either Portrait or Landscape 
mode according to your preference. You can check you've got it right using 
the fact that a left flick will tell you there's no text to delete. (If 
the keyboard's the wrong way round, turn it round till a left flick boings 
at you to show no more text to delete).
Decide on whether you're going to actually touch type or use one or two 
fingers. Use a word like 'bananas' as it's a good pattern to start with.


With the bottom edge of the IPhone near you, imagine the Home row a little 
way up. So the B A N A N A s will be easy for you to imagine. Just press 
where you think the B will be (bottom row, nearly at the halfway point on 
the left side of the row), then tap the place as on a typewriter keyboard 
and immediately lift your finger off the key. You won't get feedback but 
should here a slight keyclick. (I do find I have to have volume turned up 
when typing in a noisy environment).


Now type the other keys - quicker I find is better. So A over to the left 
but a little higher as it would be on the Home row. N back on where the 
bottom row would be but a little over to the right. Etc. Etc. It's much 
easier if you are actually a touch typist but not difficult once you get 
the hang of it if you're not.


Once you've typed all the letters of the word in, flick to the right 
instead of pressing a space bar (this does take a bit of getting used to). 
This brings up the 'Suggestions' list, and, with any luck your first word 
should be 'bananas'. Accept this and you're ready to type the next word. 
No need to press anything. After the word is spoken, just carry on typing. 
If it gess the word wrong, flick Down until Fleksy says the word you want; 
Up if you pass the word.


And you're on your way.

As said, if you need practical help, Gordon, message or email me and we 
can set up a Skype call on Sunday.


As with anything, it does take practice.

How many of you like me remember h

Re: mount means

[chris hallsworth]

Mounting is like connecting something so it is accessible to the operating 
system, Mac OSX in this case. Mounting a disk image is a kin to inserting a 
CD or DVD into a physical CD and DVD drive.
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What does it mean to mount or not to mount something?

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Re: olearia

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Hmmm... shouldn't be that hard to register it. Will have a look and
see what's going on. Thanks! :)

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> case i don't think your computer app is. In fact I don't think you can read
> bard books on any computer device.
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>> Hi;
>>
>> I've gotten olearia, looks pretty accessible. I've downloaded a book
>> from bard, (braille and audio reding service) Now, how do I import it
>> into Olearia? I can listen to it on my braillenote, but can't figure
>> how to get the folder into Olearia. Any help would be appreciated.
>> Thanks in advance!
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RSS reader. Free and accessible

[Daniela Rubio T]

Hello!
Here we have an RSS reader which is free and accessible.
Hope you like it.
http://www.grumlapp.com/downloads/gruml.dmg

SALU2, DANIELA R.T.
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Re: internet radio streaming on the mac revisited?

[Sarah Alawami]

No you still need to paste the link in to the command you dialogue. It will 
then save to the internet streams playlist.

Take care.
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> Is there not an easier way of getting itunes to stream stations other than 
> trying to determine what the actual stream link for the site is?  I can't 
> seem to get the hang of streaming stations on the mac and it is driving me 
> nuts.  I use voice over.  any help would be appreciated.  Have they done 
> anything in mountain lion to improve this aspect?
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Re: mount means

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Basically when you do that it is like a disk drive. you are putting it in the 
finder for browsing and easy access. or to make it run. think of motor mounts 
in  an engine block and hopefully that concept will help you make sense of the 
word mount. Tha'ts how I remember the term. lol!
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Re: SuperDuper

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On Jul 28, 2012, at 6:08 PM, josh gregory wrote:
Hello Diane, Josh, and Others,

I think that I gave a quick summary of what SuperDuper! does in one of my 
posts, but it may have gotten buried in the flurry of recent posts.  I also 
gave a link to a nice blog posting that Lynne wrote about different backup 
programs, but I see that the blog site is down right now, so I'll give you the 
link to this article on System Backup posted at the main mac-access site:
http://www.mac-access.net/Extras/System_Backup.html

This is going to be a quick explanation, because a much better description is 
given in the Take Control guide (Take Control of Backing Up Your Mac). There 
are different parts to a good backup strategy, and one of the applications that 
comes with your Mac, Time Machine, is pretty good at keeping copies of 
documents and mail on your system.  But because it is set up to easily track 
changes, and mostly works incrementally, it can be easier to use to recover 
files when you accidentally deleted something that was recently created -- in 
the last month or two.  In order to restore your current system you'd have to 
apply not just the last major backup, but all the incremental ones.  By 
contrast, while programs like SuperDuper! and Carbon Copy Cloner also do 
support incremental backups, their major value is for complete disaster 
recovery when you want to get a completely working system up right away. If my 
hard drive fails entirely, it's less important to me that I get it working agai
 n with the most recent copies of documents than that I can bring up a version 
immediately.  And so these programs are set up to be able to make an "image" 
backup or "clone" of your entire disk.  The term "bootable clone" means that 
not only is this a snapshot copy of the programs and folders on your system at 
a given time, but that you can also attach the drive to your computer, hold 
down the power button along with the option key, and select this as an 
alternative drive to boot from (by pressing either the right or left arrow key) 
and then pressing return to start the boot.  If the hard drive of my laptop 
dies, or if I manage to completely trash it with a new operating system 
installation I can continue to work with almost no loss of time.  Additionally, 
if the cloned drive uses the same format as my computer (e.g., laptop sized for 
laptops), and I can swap it into my computer (not possible with the MacBook Air 
models, but doable for the MacBook Pros) and continue with a wo
 rking system (although one which might not have the most recent contents on my 
hard drive).  

Since Mac OS X 10.7 (Lion), Apple has included a recovery partition on your 
hard drive so that in the event of a corrupted operating system, you can start 
up a completely new one. Of course, that doesn't help you if your entire hard 
drive fails (including the recovery partition), so the recent discussions about 
saving the downloaded version of Mountain Lion or Lion to a separate bootable 
device (USB memory stick, DVD, etc.) are essentially about cloning the recovery 
partition to some portable external media.

It's not practical to take frequent clone backups, since they can take 2-3 
hours to perform (depending on the size of your hard drive and how full it is). 
 But they're very useful in cases where you want to troubleshoot your computer 
(and need to do it by bringing up tools from a separate boot partition), or if 
you do a system upgrade and decide that you don't like the new version -- you 
can restore your hard drive with the clone that you made of the earlier 
operating system and wait for the bugs to be ironed out.

This is only one part of the backup strategy, because all these physical 
devices are in the same place.  If your house burns down, it would be nice to 
know that you can recover your files from a Cloud storage system, which is what 
Sarah was talking about with Gordon on the subject of crash plan.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther 


> I get confused, Is that the free one that has paid features?
> 
> On 7/29/12, Diane Bomar  wrote:
>> Yes, it has been discussed, a lot, but not explained what was its purpose.
>> 
>> Thanks for clarifying that. I am sure that took less time, than my sifting
>> through archives. 
>> 
>> If I needed more information, than what the app does, it would behoove me to
>> 
>> look through archives.
>> There is a lot of traffic on this list, and I appreciate it, immensely, but
>> 
>> some of us are relatively new to using Mac software, and it shouldn't be
>> assumed that everyone knows the purpose of an app that is being discussed.
>> Just a simple mention in the original thread that this app is a backup
>> utility would suffice.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Diane

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What does it mean to mount or not to mount something?

Thank you for your help in making this clear to me!

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Re: just thought i'd say hi

[william lomas]

all came through no problems smile

On 29 Jul 2012, at 19:26, amy gilbert  
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> introduce myself i'm new to the list and i've been using a mac for nearly 2 
> years and it's my main machine. i'd never go back to using windows unless i 
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Re: Mountain Lion App store question

[Gordon Smith]

Hi Nic

Typically excellent post.  I'm sure a lot of people will find that invaluable.

Gordon

On 29 Jul 2012, at 16:59, Nicolai Svendsen  wrote:

Try going to the purchases tab, then interact with the cell that says 
Installed. You should hear that the installed button is dimmed. Now, try 
hitting Option-Space. This overwrites the behaviour of OS X and forces the app 
to reinstall if it is not already. This also works on applications you have 
already installed and register correctly. When you have hit Option-Space, you 
can stop interacting with the cell and VO-left then right. It should then say 
that the button is now "Pause."

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just thought i'd say hi

[amy gilbert]

hi all, sending a message again hope it gets through. just thought i'd 
introduce myself i'm new to the list and i've been using a mac for nearly 2 
years and it's my main machine. i'd never go back to using windows unless i 
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Re: SuperDuper

[Gordon Smith]

Hello Josh

Yes, correct.  Super Duper! will run in free mode as long as you like.  But it 
doesn't let you use the "Smart Updates" or schedule backups.  For the price, I 
really think registration is worth while.  Smart Updates are an incredible time 
saver.  It allows you to only backup what's changed since your last backup.

Gordon


On 29 Jul 2012, at 05:08, josh gregory  wrote:

I get confused, Is that the free one that has paid features?

On 7/29/12, Diane Bomar  wrote:
> Yes, it has been discussed, a lot, but not explained what was its purpose.
> 
> Thanks for clarifying that. I am sure that took less time, than my sifting
> through archives. 
> 
> If I needed more information, than what the app does, it would behoove me to
> 
> look through archives.
> There is a lot of traffic on this list, and I appreciate it, immensely, but
> 
> some of us are relatively new to using Mac software, and it shouldn't be
> assumed that everyone knows the purpose of an app that is being discussed.
> Just a simple mention in the original thread that this app is a backup
> utility would suffice.
> 
> Thanks,
> Diane
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Gordon Smith" 
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 5:12 AM
> Subject: Re: SuperDuper
> 
> 
>> Diane
>> 
>> This has been discussed a lot in recent times on list.  It's a backup
>> utility.  If you need more you may like to search the list archives for
>> info.
>> 
>> Gordon
>> 
>> On 27 Jul 2012, at 12:04, Diane Bomar  wrote:
>> 
>> Can someone please explain what this app does.
>> Thanks,
>> Diane
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "John Gunn" 
>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
>> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 4:41 AM
>> Subject: SuperDuper
>> 
>> 
>>> Hello:
>>> 
>>> For thos of you using SuperDuper a Mountain Lion ready version has been
>>> released.
>>> 
>>> Works just the same and as usual, VO friendly.
>>> 
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Re: SuperDuper

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Hello Diane

Point taken, and please understand that no offence was intended.  Super Duper! 
is one of those applications which isn't really explained by the name.  There 
is a lot of discussion related to Super Duper! in the archives, as there is 
Carbon Copy Cloner.  I do take the point that there are some switchers out 
there not familiar with Mac OS products.  Don't be afraid to ask questions, the 
very last thing I want to do is discourage questions.  My mention of the 
archives should perhaps have indued some examples and I will try to do that 
henceforth.

Gordon

On 29 Jul 2012, at 05:02, Diane Bomar  wrote:

Yes, it has been discussed, a lot, but not explained what was its purpose.

Thanks for clarifying that. I am sure that took less time, than my sifting 
through archives. 

If I needed more information, than what the app does, it would behoove me to 
look through archives.
There is a lot of traffic on this list, and I appreciate it, immensely, but 
some of us are relatively new to using Mac software, and it shouldn't be 
assumed that everyone knows the purpose of an app that is being discussed. Just 
a simple mention in the original thread that this app is a backup utility would 
suffice.

Thanks,
Diane

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To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 5:12 AM
Subject: Re: SuperDuper


> Diane
> 
> This has been discussed a lot in recent times on list.  It's a backup 
> utility.  If you need more you may like to search the list archives for info.
> 
> Gordon
> 
> On 27 Jul 2012, at 12:04, Diane Bomar  wrote:
> 
> Can someone please explain what this app does.
> Thanks,
> Diane
> 
> - Original Message - From: "John Gunn" 
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 4:41 AM
> Subject: SuperDuper
> 
> 
>> Hello:
>> 
>> For thos of you using SuperDuper a Mountain Lion ready version has been 
>> released.
>> 
>> Works just the same and as usual, VO friendly.
>> 
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internet radio streaming on the mac revisited?

[Melissa Tucker]

Is there not an easier way of getting itunes to stream stations other than 
trying to determine what the actual stream link for the site is?  I can't seem 
to get the hang of streaming stations on the mac and it is driving me nuts.  I 
use voice over.  any help would be appreciated.  Have they done anything in 
mountain lion to improve this aspect?
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Re: Fleksy [Revisited]

[Gordon Smith]

This is very useful, Andrea.  Thanks.

Gordon


On 29 Jul 2012, at 04:20, Andrea Breier  wrote:

The only thing I would add is that the settings for fleksy is under the main 
settings menu.  You can go in there and add favorites.  You just type telephone 
numbers of the people you text most.  Just type a phone number, then a comma 
then the next phone number and so on.  Then these shortcuts will show up in 
fleksy, as you flick to the right after composing your message.  Also in 
settings you can insert your phone number and email address, then fleksy will 
place a link in your texts or emails with a link at the end of either so that 
any other fleksy user can read your message then just click on the link and 
they will be automatically put into fleksy so that they can respond back to you.
I hope this makes since.


Hugs,
Andrea M. Breier
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Subject: Re: Fleksy [Revisited]

these are the instructions I sent to gordon privately for anyone else who may 
be struggling or need help with fleksy.

Hi Gordon this is how you use fleksy.

1. open the app and it will say loading.

2. when it is loaded and says triple tap home to start typing then you just 
triple tap the home button witch will turn voice over off.

3. to type what you wish to type just tap with one finger on the screen where 
you think each letter of the word you want to type is, you don't have to be 
accurate.

4. swipe to the write and it will tell you what word it thinks you typed, if it 
is the wrong word just keep swiping down till it finds the write word that you 
meant to type. If it does not find the word you meant then just do a swipe to 
the left to delete the last word it told you. Then try again on a different 
part of the screen maybe a bit to the left or write of where you first typed.

5. to put a full stop in swipe to the write again after you've typed the word 
and it will put the full stop in, swipe down if you want a question mark comma 
or exclamation mark. There are more advanced simbles you can put in but not 
played with it yet.

Fleksy has become really useful to me over the last few weeks.

When you have finished typing what you wish to type then turn voice over back 
on and if you swipe to the write a menu will come up with what you can do with 
the text. It will then take you in to the section that allows you to do the 
action. I do not know weather you use Audio boo but if you do do a search for 
ianmcnamara and I have done a boo explaining how to use fleksy.

Hope this helps.

Ian McNamara
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some more mail questions

[Melissa Tucker]

Is it possible for me to remove my account and make sure the mail app doesn't 
remember any of the settings that I have put in the system in the past?  I'm 
having trouble connecting to my at&t mail and if I just use the "remove 
account" questions and then go back and put my information in again, most of 
the settings that I've used before aren't working.  I think I have the correct 
imap settings now and would like to start this over as if I just got the mac.  
Or, is it possible for me to sync my mail from my ipad to my mac and just use 
the settings that I know are correct on my ipad?  Finally, I was reading some 
of the bugs of mountain lion on wednesday when it just came out and I read 
there was a small mail bug.  Was wondering if this has been fixed yet.

Now, I have another question, but it is on another subject regarding the mac, 
so will create a new message for that.  thanks for any help.
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Re: burning mountain lion to disk

[Gordon Smith]

Hi Thomas

I am happy that you now have things sorted.  Yes, I am not surprised that your 
disk image was the Lion OS.  Apple finally made the process of burning a DVD of 
their operating system quite late in the test phase of Mountain Lion, which did 
take some by surprise.  As for the hardware validation, I think it's only going 
to get tighter.  But I guess the question is how long will it be before some 
company challenges Apple's new policies via legal avenues.  I am not in any way 
trying to suggest that Apple has broken the law.  Although that having be said, 
I do wonder whether the practices might qualify as restraint of trade, unfair 
competition, etc. etc..  One can only wait and see, I guess.

Gordon

On 28 Jul 2012, at 23:56, Thomas McMahan  wrote:

Hi Gordon, the install dmg does turn out to be my old Lion one, glad you 
pointed that out to me, had forgotten that I had intentionally put the M L one 
at another place until I can back it up on thumb drive, in other words not at a 
place where I am likely to drop it in trash or something like that.  I checked 
it and it is the 4.35 gb package, and this other one was my Lion one, which at 
this point I guess would have little use for.  

As for the hardware validation and control, doesn't surprise me one bit, and I 
like you don't have very good feelings about that.  Don't mind the validation 
to a degree, but to use that as a major control factor to force customers to 
buy only their product where they can intentionally inflate prices is wrong.  
Going for the mark up might bring you money in the short term, but can kill in 
the long term.  Didn't Apple get burned with some of that in the late 80s early 
90s in the question of whether to allow cloning or not?  Apple didn't allow, 
and Big Blue did and that is why there are so many of their look a likes around 
even though Apple had the better product, the volume just pounded them.  But 
that discussion is more of a business strategy discussion and not really 
germane to the list, so I guess I will take my punishment *lol*.   

However, the validation of hardware would explain why my external cd burner 
would work for some time then stopped working on my old power pc.  As upgrades 
would come along I guess it would verify what I was doing.  To bad it didn't 
verify that my cd drive wasn't working anymore, well ejecting it didn't work 
anymore *lol*.  If I'm lucky it might read from it but forget burning on either 
one of them.  Seems more if it says "unsupported" chances are it means "this 
aint going to happen for you."  Well just bought me a junk Windows laptop and 
used it for burning instead until I got the new machine here.  Took some time 
and some good breaks to save up for it but got it done.  Hopefully it will last 
10 years like the old power pc will have done when December comes along this 
year.  And yes it does work fine except for the cd drive's tray, and of course 
the fact that it can no longer upgrade past Tiger.  
On Jul 28, 2012, at 9:18 AM, Gordon Smith  wrote:

> Thomas
> 
> There's no such thing as a "compressed" .dmg image.  Not, at least, in this 
> context.  A disk image is just like an .iso image used in other operating 
> systems. Neither is compressed. The files are exactly as they would be if you 
> were to open a folder. That is how you're able to mount the image without the 
> need for decompression utilities.
> 
> I would suggest that if you have an installdvd.dmg on your desktop, it's most 
> likely Lion.  The Mountain Lion disk image is indeed 4.35 GB which is too 
> large for a single-layer DVD.  Apple is moving away from physical media boot 
> systems in favor of either USB thumb drives or Internet-based operating 
> system downloads.
> 
> For example, if you boot the new Mac Minis and have a blank hard drive, 
> there's a firmware-based recovery assistant which allows you to download the 
> operating system via the Internet subject to a valid Apple ID and hardware 
> verification.  Apple is also now much more strictly validating hardware in 
> your machines.  For instance, if you have a non-Apple authorized memory 
> module or two in your machine, even if they meet the technical specifications 
> which Apple uses precisely, the hardware validation can fail and you won't be 
> able to download the operating system via the recovery mechanism.  The same 
> is true if you change the hard drive in your machine and or use SDD media in 
> its place.  The media has to be validated and authorized by Apple otherwise 
> the recovery process can fail.
> 
> This is something which most people are probably not aware of, but all the 
> same it is now true.  So, for instance, the "Lion Disk Maker" which Sarah has 
> recently discussed is now obsolete, as I also said in a recent reply to 
> Sarah's message.  You can no longer create a DVD of the operating system, as 
> the disk image contents in the package are too large.  This is no accident.
> 
> Apple really is squeezing th

Re: Fleksy [Revisited]

[Gordon Smith]

Hi Esther

Is it me, my system or have others also noticed that the audio on David's 
podcasts is absolutely dreadful?  I can hardly hear what he's saying at times.  
The intro audio came over at normal volume so I don't think it is something 
this end.

Gordon


On 28 Jul 2012, at 23:21, Esther  wrote:

Hi Gordon and Others,

Just to correct the name of the author of the Fleksy podcast Dennis mentioned 
as David "Woodbridge":
• Fleksy release demo July 2012:
http://davidwoodbr.podbean.com/2012/07/13/fleksy-release-demo-july-2012/
Sarah also did a Fleksy podcast that you can listen to at:
http://tffp.marrie.org/486

As Geoff stated, the updated help for the current version, which has additional 
features for using symbols and corrections for some of the version 1 
limitations, support for import/export options, and a few other fixes, may be 
found in the app.  Probably the most important information is to keep typing 
without waiting to hear the letters announced and just assume that the app will 
identify the word you typed in one of the selections that you flick through.  
Occasionally there will just be certain words that aren't in it's dictionary, 
and you will have to slowly type and add these in. Or certain long, and 
complicated words will better be entered if you carefully find the first few 
letters, then revert to just "guessing" the positions of the other letters. 

I think the current version is not really optimized for the iPad, and you'll 
find if you explore the keyboard that the layout of the Fleksy keyboard 
occupies a much larger portion of the screen than you're used to using, so you 
have to "exaggerate" the placement of the keys in your touch gestures to use 
this at present.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Jul 28, 2012, at 11:42 AM, Dennis Freedman wrote:

> Hi Gordon
> 
> I hope you got my text message about the Podcast that David Bridgewood did, 
> but I'm sure you'll find it if not.
> 
> Thanks to all, their replies were concise and should give you everything you 
> need. But, having been there myself, perhaps a bit more explanation is 
> needed, with apologies to others on the list.
> 
> I think it's the concept that is strange until you actually use it. After 
> pressing the Home button three times to turn VoiceOver off, you have to 
> imagine the blank screen is an invisible keyboard. Place your fingers where 
> you think the qwerty keys home row should be, and, if you're a touch typist, 
> go from there using all your fingers. I find it easier in Landscape mode so 
> lock Fleksy in Landscape via the Fleksy Settings dialog in the main Settings 
> app. But I know people who use Fleksy with only one or two fingers, 
> 'guessing' roughly where the qwerty keys would be.
> 
> So you've turned VoiceOver off, got Fleksy in either Portrait or Landscape 
> mode according to your preference. You can check you've got it right using 
> the fact that a left flick will tell you there's no text to delete. (If the 
> keyboard's the wrong way round, turn it round till a left flick boings at you 
> to show no more text to delete).
> Decide on whether you're going to actually touch type or use one or two 
> fingers. Use a word like 'bananas' as it's a good pattern to start with.
> 
> With the bottom edge of the IPhone near you, imagine the Home row a little 
> way up. So the B A N A N A s will be easy for you to imagine. Just press 
> where you think the B will be (bottom row, nearly at the halfway point on the 
> left side of the row), then tap the place as on a typewriter keyboard and 
> immediately lift your finger off the key. You won't get feedback but should 
> here a slight keyclick. (I do find I have to have volume turned up when 
> typing in a noisy environment).
> 
> Now type the other keys - quicker I find is better. So A over to the left but 
> a little higher as it would be on the Home row. N back on where the bottom 
> row would be but a little over to the right. Etc. Etc. It's much easier if 
> you are actually a touch typist but not difficult once you get the hang of it 
> if you're not.
> 
> Once you've typed all the letters of the word in, flick to the right instead 
> of pressing a space bar (this does take a bit of getting used to). This 
> brings up the 'Suggestions' list, and, with any luck your first word should 
> be 'bananas'. Accept this and you're ready to type the next word. No need to 
> press anything. After the word is spoken, just carry on typing. If it gess 
> the word wrong, flick Down until Fleksy says the word you want; Up if you 
> pass the word.
> 
> And you're on your way.
> 
> As said, if you need practical help, Gordon, message or email me and we can 
> set up a Skype call on Sunday.
> 
> As with anything, it does take practice.
> 
> How many of you like me remember how frustrating it was the first time you 
> tried to use an I-device? It took me days to get anywhere with it really, 
> although I think some of us may not want to admit that.
> 
> Dennis.
> 
> 

<

Re: Fleksy [Revisited]

[Gordon Smith]

Hi Geoff

Fair point!  Perhaps my post was one of those premature ones.

Gordon

On 28 Jul 2012, at 21:22, Geoff Waaler  wrote:

For those who are curious, but have not yet purchased Fleksy, the instructions 
button within the app takes the user to the current version's documentation.

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Re: a remote, but slight possibility

[Sarah Alawami]

it is sluggish but I see a lot of progress  in the nightlies and I keep 
reporting issues on the blog post regarding firefox and the voice over busy 
thing. for them to try this is a miracle  as they said they would not even 
undertake this in 2008 or so.

Take care.
On Jul 29, 2012, at 4:16 AM, Nicolai Svendsen  wrote:

> Hi Josh,
> 
> You're going to have to use the Nightly Firefox builds from here:
> http://nightly.mozilla.org
> 
> Keep in mind that while it does work, a lot of things do not work as expected 
> and it is very sluggish. It is very much a work in progress.
> 
> Regards,
> Nicolai
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> 
>> Well, it's not, now. I have it and it says no windows when I open it.
>> 
>> On 7/29/12, Justin Ekis  wrote:
>>> Hi Josh,
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately, that won't work. I think I see where you are coming from with
>>> this, since the site won't let you download the plugin unless you are
>>> running firefox. Yes, this feature would enable you to download it, but
>>> safari wouldn't have a clue what to do with it. It wouldn't be able to
>>> install and run the plugin. I have read that work is progressing towards
>>> making firefox accessible on the mac. Maybe someday we will be able to use
>>> this to run the Webvisum extension and use it's captcha solving service.
>>> 
>>> On Jul 28, 2012, at 11:45 PM, josh gregory wrote:
>>> 
 Not initially, but if it could be downloaded
 
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> Don't think so because you wouldn't have the actual webvism plugging
> right?
> 
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> 
>> Hello;
>> 
>> I, a long time ago, saw a post on the develop menu on safari. I
>> think it was on here but idk. I recently found the box to enable it in
>> safari preferences. So, I was going through it and found a user agent
>> sub-menu, in which was Firefox 11.0 for both windows and mac.
>> Now, as far as I know, a user agent tricks a sight into thinking a
>> browser is something else than what it actually is, much like an
>> emulator is for video games. So, a question: With firefox as user
>> agent, could captcha solving be even remotely possible?
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Re: Fleksy [Revisited]

[Gordon Smith]

Hi Chris

I fully realise that all this stuff must make me seem incredibly dense.  My 
only defence is, and no - I'm not making excuses or using this as an excuse, 
but I'm on a pretty powerful combination of drugs to treat a medical condition. 
 One of the side-effects of one of the drugs is short term memory loss.  Fleksy 
isn't the only one I've struggled to remember how to us.  Nor is it the only 
stupid error I've made of late, much to my own frustration.  Anyway, thanks for 
the info.  I'm perfectly happy to continue the discussion on or off list, 
according to others' preference.  I merely didn't want to bore others with 
something they already know, something they've already seen.  Which reminds me, 
I must go and check the list archive on the subject of Fleksy.

Gordon

On 28 Jul 2012, at 18:41, Chris Moore  wrote:

Gordon,

When you launch Fleksy you are instructed to triple click home to turn VO off.  
Do this, and explore the options by flicking to the right.  You will find an 
option for instructions.  These are very concise but precise.  Failing that, 
either listen to David Woodbrdge's demo podcast on www.applevis.com or within 
the podcast section of iBlink radio on your iOS device.

Chris 
On 28 Jul 2012, at 18:32, Eric Caron  wrote:

> Dear Gordon,
> 
>   If you did not find what you need in the archive then I would encourage 
> you to keep this discussion on the list.  I'm still interested in reading 
> more about user's experiences with Fleksy.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> eric Caron 
> On Jul 28, 2012, at 10:27 AM, Gordon Smith wrote:
> 
>> Hi all
>> 
>> OK, given everything that's been happening recently around here, and also 
>> the stuff that's changed regarding Mac OS X and iOS, I have totally 
>> forgotten how to use Fleksy.  I only tried it once when Lynne bought it.  
>> But I am tired of having to use the virtual keyboard when I want to type a 
>> message which is rich in detail.  So, I guess, I have two options.  Either I 
>> try to dictate messages to my iPhone, (which I find quite irritating because 
>> it still makes errors), or else I find a more convenient method of typing.
>> 
>> The hardware keyboard is an option when not portable. But when I'm in an 
>> environment where it isn't appropriate to carry a bulky keyboard around with 
>> me, I need to type directly into the iPhone.  And that would seem to be 
>> where Fleksy comes into play.
>> 
>> Could somebody who knows how to use this software well, please write to me 
>> privately so that we can maybe discuss it without boring the group with 
>> something already covered?  I've just been checking the list archive but I 
>> can't find something as comprehensive as I need.  My address is:
>> gor...@mac-access.net
>> Thank you in advance.
>> 
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Re: Mountain Lion App store question

[Paul Hopewell]

Hello Nicolai, 
Many thanks for the tip that option+Space bar overrides the dimmed installed 
button. that did the trick and I now have successfully re-installed growl from 
the Mac App store. 
Many thanks again and best wishes...

Paul Hopewell
On 29 Jul 2012, at 16:59, Nicolai Svendsen  wrote:

> Hello Paul,
> 
> Try going to the purchases tab, then interact with the cell that says 
> Installed. You should hear that the installed button is dimmed. Now, try 
> hitting Option-Space. This overwrites the behaviour of OS X and forces the 
> app to reinstall if it is not already. This also works on applications you 
> have already installed and register correctly. When you have hit 
> Option-Space, you can stop interacting with the cell and VO-left then right. 
> It should then say that the button is now "Pause."
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Nicolai
> On Jul 28, 2012, at 6:58 PM, Paul Hopewell  wrote:
> 
>> Hello, 
>> I am having problems on Mountain Lion re-installing an App previously 
>> installed from the Mac App store on Lion. I went to the purchases menu but 
>> could not see an active install button for the required app. I thought that 
>> on Lion you could re-install an App from the Mac App store via the purchases 
>> menu. the FAQW for the Mac App store say that you can indeed re-install an 
>> An App previously installed from the Mac App store. On Mountain Lion all 
>> that I can see is a dimmed install button. 
>> Is this an Apple bug? 
>> Best regards
>> 
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Re: Fleksy [Revisited]

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Hi Eric

I'm perfectly happy to continue the discussion on list.  I merely didn't want 
to bore those who already know, or don't want to know, about Fleksy.  However, 
if others are interested, that's absolutely fine by me.
Gordon

On 28 Jul 2012, at 18:32, Eric Caron  wrote:

Dear Gordon,

If you did not find what you need in the archive then I would encourage 
you to keep this discussion on the list.  I'm still interested in reading more 
about user's experiences with Fleksy.

Thanks,

eric Caron 
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> Hi all
> 
> OK, given everything that's been happening recently around here, and also the 
> stuff that's changed regarding Mac OS X and iOS, I have totally forgotten how 
> to use Fleksy.  I only tried it once when Lynne bought it.  But I am tired of 
> having to use the virtual keyboard when I want to type a message which is 
> rich in detail.  So, I guess, I have two options.  Either I try to dictate 
> messages to my iPhone, (which I find quite irritating because it still makes 
> errors), or else I find a more convenient method of typing.
> 
> The hardware keyboard is an option when not portable. But when I'm in an 
> environment where it isn't appropriate to carry a bulky keyboard around with 
> me, I need to type directly into the iPhone.  And that would seem to be where 
> Fleksy comes into play.
> 
> Could somebody who knows how to use this software well, please write to me 
> privately so that we can maybe discuss it without boring the group with 
> something already covered?  I've just been checking the list archive but I 
> can't find something as comprehensive as I need.  My address is:
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Re: a remote, but slight possibility

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don't bother, it wouldn't work. two totally different beasts.

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> Not initially, but if it could be downloaded
> 
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>> Don't think so because you wouldn't have the actual webvism plugging right?
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>>> Now, as far as I know, a user agent tricks a sight into thinking a
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Re: mountain lion

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Sorry I meant to say in my previous message, that my original message did not 
just include Apple products.  if you read it again, you will see this.
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> 
> OK, let me clarify.  As I did actually post last night, it includes all 
> operating system and all other Apple applications.  The apps you mention 
> below are all Apple developed, or Apple licensed products.  You know full 
> well, Chris, that Pages, iPhoto, iMovie etc. are not third party products.  
> 
> Gordon
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> Software Update also includes third party apps.  Mine told me as well as the 
> updates for Pages and Numbers and iPhoto and updates to Daniel's voice, that 
> i also had an update to Lightening web browser (which I must admit only ever 
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Re: mountain lion

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Gordon,

Lightening web browser is not an Apple product, nor is new rack for that matter 
which were all updated via Software Update as Software Upate includes items 
from the App Store and they do not have to be specific Apple apps.

Kind regards 

Chris 
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> 
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Re: burning mountain lion to disk

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Hi Sean

Apple is trying to squeeze the other hardware vendors out it would seem.  
Although sometimes the validation doesn't seem to work as expected, on many 
occasions it can fail, giving something like an error 1014 or 1004 with a very 
misleading message.

I think that, had we mot been quite so financially committed, we would probably 
have tried to go down the Linux road for our servers.  But that isn't an option 
now.  Apple is doing some very strange things nowadays.  Of course, I'm not 
privy to all of the stuff that goes on inside of Apple.  These are just things 
I'm being told by certain people within the organisation.

Gordon

On 28 Jul 2012, at 20:35, Shaun Oliver  wrote:

having just read all that, is preventing competition like that not in some way 
illegal? or is it a case of manufacturers not having enough financial where 
with all to bother?
it just seems to me, that in many respects, apple have succeeded where 
microsoft have thankfully failed.

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Re: Mountain Lion App store question

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Sarah

If you're seeing "Installed", that means it's on your system somewhere.  Or 
else, it's been on your system somewhere.

Gordon

On 28 Jul 2012, at 19:59, Sarah Alawami  wrote:

Yep both of us  are seeing installed  (passed tense) which the apps are not if 
the system is cleanly installed and no migration has taken place. This is an 
odd one. Hope a solution can be found. a I looked and the apps from the app 
store I have are compatible with ml. I checked on the website where it lists 
all of them.

http://roaringapps.com/apps:table
On Jul 28, 2012, at 11:27 AM, Gordon Smith wrote:

> Paul
> 
> The reasons for that are numbered.  But most likely what you are seeing is 
> "Installed", not "Install".  In other words, past tense.
> 
> Gordon
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> On 28 Jul 2012, at 17:58, Paul Hopewell  wrote:
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> Hello, 
> I am having problems on Mountain Lion re-installing an App previously 
> installed from the Mac App store on Lion. I went to the purchases menu but 
> could not see an active install button for the required app. I thought that 
> on Lion you could re-install an App from the Mac App store via the purchases 
> menu. the FAQW for the Mac App store say that you can indeed re-install an An 
> App previously installed from the Mac App store. On Mountain Lion all that I 
> can see is a dimmed install button. 
> Is this an Apple bug? 
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Re: Mountain Lion App store question

[Nicolai Svendsen]

Hello Paul,

Try going to the purchases tab, then interact with the cell that says 
Installed. You should hear that the installed button is dimmed. Now, try 
hitting Option-Space. This overwrites the behaviour of OS X and forces the app 
to reinstall if it is not already. This also works on applications you have 
already installed and register correctly. When you have hit Option-Space, you 
can stop interacting with the cell and VO-left then right. It should then say 
that the button is now "Pause."


Regards,
Nicolai
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> installed from the Mac App store on Lion. I went to the purchases menu but 
> could not see an active install button for the required app. I thought that 
> on Lion you could re-install an App from the Mac App store via the purchases 
> menu. the FAQW for the Mac App store say that you can indeed re-install an An 
> App previously installed from the Mac App store. On Mountain Lion all that I 
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Re: olearia

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I don't think you can. You have to register the thing for bard and in this case 
i don't think your computer app is. In fact I don't think you can read bard 
books on any computer device.

Take care.
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> Hi;
> 
> I've gotten olearia, looks pretty accessible. I've downloaded a book
> from bard, (braille and audio reding service) Now, how do I import it
> into Olearia? I can listen to it on my braillenote, but can't figure
> how to get the folder into Olearia. Any help would be appreciated.
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Re: Keyboard question.

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Adjust the screen savor under system prefs under energy prefs.I have mine down 
to a minute, but i would keep it that way as you don't want to burn out your 
monitor.

Take care.
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> If I am not using my Mac keyboard for a minute or so, I have to press a key 
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Re: Mountain Lion App store question

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I think that this site did show the apps that were signed by apple with the new 
certificate system they use now.  I can't recall it at the moment but there ya 
go. i do hope this gets fixed in an update or a server side fix anyways.

Take care.
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> Sarah
> 
> Whilst it's true that the behaviour of the App Store is as I described 
> yesterday, it's also true to say that the App Store is still very flaky.  I 
> was one of the many who voiced the opinion to Apple via its many forums 
> pre-release that Mountain Lion wasn't ready for public release.  I stand by 
> that opinion.  The operating system itself isn't as stable as it should be.  
> The app store is extremely flaky.  But Apple is one of those organisations 
> who, sadly, sets deadlines to things and won't adjust that deadline no matter 
> what.  However, it is important to understand the behaviour.  Some 
> applications are not compatible with Mountain Lion not because they aren't 
> compatible, if that makes sense.  They are not compatible as far as the App 
> Store is concerned because the applications haven't been signed.  This is 
> true of many applications which would otherwise have been perfectly 
> compatible.  That may not sound logical, but it's one possibility as to why 
> your application install bu
 tt
> ons are dimmed.
> 
> And Sarah, I remember a conversation which we had privately a couple of weeks 
> ago on this subject.  You then said that you weren't going to upgrade to 
> Mountain Lion until these problems were fixed.  Clearly you've changed your 
> mind, as you are, of course, perfectly entitled to do.  :-)
> 
> Anyway, I am still in communications with Apple and, if I get any info back 
> from them I will let the group know.
> 
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> Uh huh.  I am having that same problem as well. In fact most of my install 
> buttons are dimmed.  and it says "installed, dimmed" not "install" as if the 
> app is already installed. is this what you are seeing? I checked on a web 
> page the thas a list of compatible apps for ml and the apps I use that are in 
> the app store are on said list.  so they should indeed install.
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Re: burning mountain lion to disk Is No Longer An Option!

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Hello Sarah

The DVD image is in exactly the same place.  The 4.35GB size sounds right, 
which would obviously make it too large for a DVD which has a capacity of 
4.2GB.  That is an intentional move on Apple's part.  They are moving away from 
the physical media with the exception of thumb drives.  Thus, your "Lion Disk 
Maker" bites the dust.  That application was obviously written by somebody with 
too much time and not a lot to do with it. :)

Anyway, the fact is that it is no longer possible to burn the operating system 
to DVD as of Mountain Lion.  You are now only going to get the OS on a thumb 
drive, or by using the recovery partition on your start disk.

Gordon

On 28 Jul 2012, at 18:07, Sarah Alawami  wrote:

Maybe I'm getting confused. Look at the webkit disk image and it's 40 mb. Mount 
it and the app is 120. maybe that type of dmg is called something else. but 
since I cannot burn a dvd even though the size shows 4.35 gb and I have a 4.7 
gig dvd it should still barely fit. Should it not? maybe like I said I'm 
confused. idid this only last year. lol!
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Re: Mountain Lion App store question

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Sarah

Whilst it's true that the behaviour of the App Store is as I described 
yesterday, it's also true to say that the App Store is still very flaky.  I was 
one of the many who voiced the opinion to Apple via its many forums pre-release 
that Mountain Lion wasn't ready for public release.  I stand by that opinion.  
The operating system itself isn't as stable as it should be.  The app store is 
extremely flaky.  But Apple is one of those organisations who, sadly, sets 
deadlines to things and won't adjust that deadline no matter what.  However, it 
is important to understand the behaviour.  Some applications are not compatible 
with Mountain Lion not because they aren't compatible, if that makes sense.  
They are not compatible as far as the App Store is concerned because the 
applications haven't been signed.  This is true of many applications which 
would otherwise have been perfectly compatible.  That may not sound logical, 
but it's one possibility as to why your application install butt
 ons are dimmed.

And Sarah, I remember a conversation which we had privately a couple of weeks 
ago on this subject.  You then said that you weren't going to upgrade to 
Mountain Lion until these problems were fixed.  Clearly you've changed your 
mind, as you are, of course, perfectly entitled to do.  :-)

Anyway, I am still in communications with Apple and, if I get any info back 
from them I will let the group know.

Gordon

On 28 Jul 2012, at 18:06, Sarah Alawami  wrote:

Uh huh.  I am having that same problem as well. In fact most of my install 
buttons are dimmed.  and it says "installed, dimmed" not "install" as if the 
app is already installed. is this what you are seeing? I checked on a web page 
the thas a list of compatible apps for ml and the apps I use that are in the 
app store are on said list.  so they should indeed install.

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Re: mountain lion

[Gordon Smith]

Hello Chris

OK, let me clarify.  As I did actually post last night, it includes all 
operating system and all other Apple applications.  The apps you mention below 
are all Apple developed, or Apple licensed products.  You know full well, 
Chris, that Pages, iPhoto, iMovie etc. are not third party products.  

Gordon

On 28 Jul 2012, at 18:05, Chris Moore  wrote:

Software Update also includes third party apps.  Mine told me as well as the 
updates for Pages and Numbers and iPhoto and updates to Daniel's voice, that i 
also had an update to Lightening web browser (which I must admit only ever used 
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Re: Clearing the cache files for an app

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Hi there!
Command+option+E empty's the cash!
I think for all!
Also in your HD in Library you can find cashes  and a list of  all the Apps 
cashes but I do not know if you can remove them from there!
So from finder open Command+shift+h and look for Cashes in the list!
Hth Colin

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> It's Unison. I didn't say that because I thought the cache files were all 
> stored in relatively the same location. I sure can't figure out how to find 
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>> What app is this, maybe someone who has the app installed can give 
>> directions as to where the cached files are.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> On Jul 28, 2012, at 1:08 PM, Kristeen Hughes wrote:
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>>> through. I'm using an app that I need to totally start over with. It has 
>>> cache files and it says I need to clear them. I've never done this. I 
>>> looked for them using the name of the app, but that didn't seem to work. I 
>>> don't know where they should be and what they will be called.
>>> 
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Re: Clearing the cache files for an app

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It's Unison. I didn't say that because I thought the cache files were all 
stored in relatively the same location. I sure can't figure out how to find 
them.

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> What app is this, maybe someone who has the app installed can give directions 
> as to where the cached files are.
> 
> Thanks.
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> 
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>> cache files and it says I need to clear them. I've never done this. I looked 
>> for them using the name of the app, but that didn't seem to work. I don't 
>> know where they should be and what they will be called.
>> 
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Re: saving birthday information in adress book

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thanks it works fine in mountain lion as well smiley 
On 29/07/2012, at 7:55 AM, Red.Falcon  wrote:

> Hi there!
> In address book go to the menu vo+m or Control+f2 and arrow to card and down 
> arrow to add field sub menu and in there is birthday as well as others!
> I suppose there will be a version in the contacts on Mountain Kitty!
> Colin
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>> is it possible to save contacts birthday information in address book or 
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Keyboard question.

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Hi Folks:

If I am not using my Mac keyboard for a minute or so, I have to press a key to 
wake the Mac in order to enter data.  What setting to I need to change?

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Re: a remote, but slight possibility

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Hi Josh,

You're going to have to use the Nightly Firefox builds from here:
http://nightly.mozilla.org

Keep in mind that while it does work, a lot of things do not work as expected 
and it is very sluggish. It is very much a work in progress.

Regards,
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> Well, it's not, now. I have it and it says no windows when I open it.
> 
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>> safari wouldn't have a clue what to do with it. It wouldn't be able to
>> install and run the plugin. I have read that work is progressing towards
>> making firefox accessible on the mac. Maybe someday we will be able to use
>> this to run the Webvisum extension and use it's captcha solving service.
>> 
>> On Jul 28, 2012, at 11:45 PM, josh gregory wrote:
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>>> Not initially, but if it could be downloaded
>>> 
>>> On 7/29/12, Thomas McMahan  wrote:
 Don't think so because you wouldn't have the actual webvism plugging
 right?
 
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Well, it's not, now. I have it and it says no windows when I open it.

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> making firefox accessible on the mac. Maybe someday we will be able to use
> this to run the Webvisum extension and use it's captcha solving service.
>
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>> Not initially, but if it could be downloaded
>>
>> On 7/29/12, Thomas McMahan  wrote:
>>> Don't think so because you wouldn't have the actual webvism plugging
>>> right?
>>>
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>>>
 Hello;

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Unfortunately, that won't work. I think I see where you are coming from with 
this, since the site won't let you download the plugin unless you are running 
firefox. Yes, this feature would enable you to download it, but safari wouldn't 
have a clue what to do with it. It wouldn't be able to install and run the 
plugin. I have read that work is progressing towards making firefox accessible 
on the mac. Maybe someday we will be able to use this to run the Webvisum 
extension and use it's captcha solving service.

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> Not initially, but if it could be downloaded
> 
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>> 
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>>> sub-menu, in which was Firefox 11.0 for both windows and mac.
>>> Now, as far as I know, a user agent tricks a sight into thinking a
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