Re: Alternative Text editors

[Sarah k Alawami]

The're salsa IText express, except I cannot get the headers and footer thing to 
cooperate, that is, voice over does not see it I contacted the dev about this 
about a month ago but with no response as of yet. over all the app is very very 
good to use.
On Dec 29, 2012, at 7:34 AM, wayne coles  wrote:

>   Hello I have heard that bean is good but can not comment as I do not
> use it  
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> Hi all
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> Does anyone have any suggestions on an alternative text editor on osx? I'm
> looking for one more aimed at programming.
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> Thanks in advance for any suggestions
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RE: Alternative Text editors

[wayne coles]

Hello I have heard that bean is good but can not comment as I do not
use it  

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Hi all

Does anyone have any suggestions on an alternative text editor on osx? I'm
looking for one more aimed at programming.

 

Thanks in advance for any suggestions

 

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Re: Facial Recognition software

[Josh Gregory]

 On a  somewhat similar topic, is there any of that stuff For the Mac?  I 
remember hearing   about a title that did this at the Apple store, but I don't 
remember the name of it. To answer the question with VoiceOver, I'm not sure 
how well that would work, seeing as facial recognition as a visual process.

Sent from my iPhone

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> Has anyone tried any facial recognition software on the IOS devices, such as 
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> And how do some of them work with VoiceOver?
> Does Apple make any of that, other than the camera's ability to identify a 
> face in general?
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Re: Reinstalling sl.

[Sarah k Alawami]

You could do that, but will apple have DVDS for sl since it is an older OS? I'm 
just wondering as apple has to stop supporting sl at some point. lol!

Be blessed.
On Dec 29, 2012, at 10:21 AM, Josh Gregory  wrote:

> Or you could just go to your local Apple store.
> 
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> On Dec 29, 2012, at 1:17 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
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>> Can you call apple and see if they get the disks? I don't know  if they are 
>> open due to the holiday here in the USA but it's worth a try.
>> 
>> Good luck.
>> On Dec 29, 2012, at 8:49 AM, matthew Dyer  
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>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I am consittering reinstalling snow lepered how ever I no longer have the 
>>> disk to do so.  Does anyone know if there is a place whare I can still get 
>>> it.  I am unable to run anything better do to the lac of ram in this 3 year 
>>> old machine.  I have been experiencing nothing but trouble with vo as oof 
>>> late not fucksoing  that I thought a clean install would fix it.  I have a 
>>> clopy of my music on an external drive and really don't have anything I 
>>> need to worry about loosing on my main drive.  Thanmks again.
>>> 
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Re: Reinstalling sl.

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Or you could just go to your local Apple store.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 29, 2012, at 1:17 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

> Can you call apple and see if they get the disks? I don't know  if they are 
> open due to the holiday here in the USA but it's worth a try.
> 
> Good luck.
> On Dec 29, 2012, at 8:49 AM, matthew Dyer  
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>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I am consittering reinstalling snow lepered how ever I no longer have the 
>> disk to do so.  Does anyone know if there is a place whare I can still get 
>> it.  I am unable to run anything better do to the lac of ram in this 3 year 
>> old machine.  I have been experiencing nothing but trouble with vo as oof 
>> late not fucksoing  that I thought a clean install would fix it.  I have a 
>> clopy of my music on an external drive and really don't have anything I need 
>> to worry about loosing on my main drive.  Thanmks again.
>> 
>> 
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>> 
>> 
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Facial Recognition software

[Glenn]

Hi All,
Has anyone tried any facial recognition software on the IOS devices, such as 
Facial Recognition +?
And how do some of them work with VoiceOver?
Does Apple make any of that, other than the camera's ability to identify a 
face in general?
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Re: Social Networking

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Yeah, that's what I meant. It's a lot faster than their Facebook application 
that they have.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 29, 2012, at 1:01 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

> No. I mean from the notifications center, but you can share and post to the 
> wrong account as well. I've done that to.  So in a way I mean both.
> 
> Good luck.
> On Dec 28, 2012, at 10:01 PM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
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>> You mean the share thingy?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Dec 29, 2012, at 12:50 AM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
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>>> That's also my favorite part of tweet list is the extended tweets and 
>>> what's cool is they expand automatically on clients that support extended 
>>> tweets. 
>>> 
>>> as for facebook I also use the native facebook app on the phone as it is 
>>> fast and works very very well with voice over.
>>> 
>>> Happy holidays. 
>>> On Dec 28, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Paula Hobley  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Lynne
 
 How are you?  I use the native Facebook application on my IOS devices.  I
 find it works quite well except that you now don't seem to be able to tag
 people in posts.  You can create a FB account from the app itself, I used
 the web site to create mine though, so don't know how accessible the app is
 for creating accounts.  In terms of twitter, I use Tweetlist on my IOS
 devices, and Night Owl on my mac computers.  In tweetlist, you can do
 extended tweets.
 
 I hope this helps.
 
 Cheers
 
 Paula
 
 
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 Subject: Social Networking
 
 Hello everybody
 
 Can somebody tell me please what's the best way of creating a FaceBook
 account? I know it's now synchronised with the operating system like 
 Twitter
 is, so I wonder what has to be done. Also, what utilities if any do people
 use for FaceBook? We are still using Syrix for Twitter, we find it the
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 message length restriction. Can anybody give me a reason why we should
 switch and, if so, to what?
 
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Re: Reinstalling sl.

[Sarah k Alawami]

Can you call apple and see if they get the disks? I don't know  if they are 
open due to the holiday here in the USA but it's worth a try.

Good luck.
On Dec 29, 2012, at 8:49 AM, matthew Dyer  
wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I am consittering reinstalling snow lepered how ever I no longer have the 
> disk to do so.  Does anyone know if there is a place whare I can still get 
> it.  I am unable to run anything better do to the lac of ram in this 3 year 
> old machine.  I have been experiencing nothing but trouble with vo as oof 
> late not fucksoing  that I thought a clean install would fix it.  I have a 
> clopy of my music on an external drive and really don't have anything I need 
> to worry about loosing on my main drive.  Thanmks again.
> 
> 
> matthew Dyer
> 
> 
> matthew Dyer
> 
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Re: Social Networking

[Sarah k Alawami]

No. I mean from the notifications center, but you can share and post to the 
wrong account as well. I've done that to.  So in a way I mean both.

Good luck.
On Dec 28, 2012, at 10:01 PM, Josh Gregory  wrote:

> You mean the share thingy?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Dec 29, 2012, at 12:50 AM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
>> That's also my favorite part of tweet list is the extended tweets and what's 
>> cool is they expand automatically on clients that support extended tweets. 
>> 
>> as for facebook I also use the native facebook app on the phone as it is 
>> fast and works very very well with voice over.
>> 
>> Happy holidays. 
>> On Dec 28, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Paula Hobley  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Lynne
>>> 
>>> How are you?  I use the native Facebook application on my IOS devices.  I
>>> find it works quite well except that you now don't seem to be able to tag
>>> people in posts.  You can create a FB account from the app itself, I used
>>> the web site to create mine though, so don't know how accessible the app is
>>> for creating accounts.  In terms of twitter, I use Tweetlist on my IOS
>>> devices, and Night Owl on my mac computers.  In tweetlist, you can do
>>> extended tweets.
>>> 
>>> I hope this helps.
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>> Paula
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mrs. Lynnette
>>> Annabel Smith
>>> Sent: Saturday, 29 December 2012 1:57 PM
>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
>>> Subject: Social Networking
>>> 
>>> Hello everybody
>>> 
>>> Can somebody tell me please what's the best way of creating a FaceBook
>>> account? I know it's now synchronised with the operating system like Twitter
>>> is, so I wonder what has to be done. Also, what utilities if any do people
>>> use for FaceBook? We are still using Syrix for Twitter, we find it the
>>> simplest and most efficient application but it's a little irritating in its
>>> message length restriction. Can anybody give me a reason why we should
>>> switch and, if so, to what?
>>> 
>>> Lynne
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Re: Social Networking

[Sarah k Alawami]

Actually that's true on the mobile side of things to. See the discussion on the 
facebook app at http://applevis.com as we are trying to work around that little 
thing.

I think it goes based on likes or something as I see things jump around like 
crazy.
On Dec 29, 2012, at 8:32 AM, matthew Dyer  
wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I have the native fb app but for some reason it is not showing all of my 
> feed.  I have it sorted newest first, but everything is in such a strange 
> order.  Any idea why this is?
> 
> 
> matthew Dyer
> 
> 
> matthew Dyer
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 29, 2012, at 12:50 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
> 
>> That's also my favorite part of tweet list is the extended tweets and what's 
>> cool is they expand automatically on clients that support extended tweets. 
>> 
>> as for facebook I also use the native facebook app on the phone as it is 
>> fast and works very very well with voice over.
>> 
>> Happy holidays. 
>> On Dec 28, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Paula Hobley  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Lynne
>>> 
>>> How are you?  I use the native Facebook application on my IOS devices.  I
>>> find it works quite well except that you now don't seem to be able to tag
>>> people in posts.  You can create a FB account from the app itself, I used
>>> the web site to create mine though, so don't know how accessible the app is
>>> for creating accounts.  In terms of twitter, I use Tweetlist on my IOS
>>> devices, and Night Owl on my mac computers.  In tweetlist, you can do
>>> extended tweets.
>>> 
>>> I hope this helps.
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>> Paula
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mrs. Lynnette
>>> Annabel Smith
>>> Sent: Saturday, 29 December 2012 1:57 PM
>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
>>> Subject: Social Networking
>>> 
>>> Hello everybody
>>> 
>>> Can somebody tell me please what's the best way of creating a FaceBook
>>> account? I know it's now synchronised with the operating system like Twitter
>>> is, so I wonder what has to be done. Also, what utilities if any do people
>>> use for FaceBook? We are still using Syrix for Twitter, we find it the
>>> simplest and most efficient application but it's a little irritating in its
>>> message length restriction. Can anybody give me a reason why we should
>>> switch and, if so, to what?
>>> 
>>> Lynne
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Re: voice over voices for the iPhone 5

[cait furness]

Yes, I have my i phone set with Ireland as the region so the irish voice is the 
default.  It comes up with 24 hour time as the default time, but it knows I'm 
in Canada and everything seems normal otherwise.  The weather app seems to 
function normally.  Just as a side note, however, I do prefer to use another 
app for weather usually, though since I like it better, called degrees.
Caitlyn

On 2012-12-28, at 3:39 AM, Gordon Smith  wrote:

> hi Glenn
> 
> If you change the language and, subsequently, the region, your location 
> services such as "Find My iPhone", "Weather', etc., won't function properly.  
> Apple ties all these services together with the voice you use.  Hence, you 
> lose these serves.
> 
> On 28 Dec 2012, at 05:32, Glenn  wrote:
> 
> Hi Gordon,
> I am not sure what you mean exactly with regional services.
> The only difference I have noticed is that it says Zed instead of Zoolo on 
> the letter Z.
> When it shuts down and I charge it up, it comes up with Samantha and I turn 
> the rotor to language and switch it back to Karen.
> So by it defaulting to Samantha, it knows where it is.
> Glenn
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Gordon Smith" 
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 11:08 PM
> Subject: Re: voice over voices for the iPhone 5
> 
> 
> Hi Glenn
> 
> The problem with this approach is, I believe, that it also impacts upon 
> location services.  If these services are not important to you, then it is 
> clearly not an issue.  However, if they are an issue, then you may be 
> stumped.  Of course, it may also be that this is not the case, but I'm sure 
> that it did cause problems when I experimented with this some time ago. 
> Personally I find the Nuance RealSpeak UK voice utterly nauseating.  But I'm 
> stuck with it because I'm not prepared to sacrifice the regional services.
> 
> Gordon
> 
> 
> On 27 Dec 2012, at 19:04, Glenn  wrote:
> 
> As Sarah wrote, you cannot download different voices, but you can change
> language.
> I live in the U.S., but I like the Australian voice, I think it is Karen,
> but not sure about that.
> But she is much less demanding sounding like Samantha is.
> Or I should say, she does not sound so much like a bitch as Samantha does.
> LOL
> Glenn
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Sarah k Alawami" 
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 12:31 PM
> Subject: Re: voice over voices for the iPhone 5
> 
> 
> Actually it's samantha.  and no you cannot as far as I know. You are stuck
> wight he apple voices which sound  pretty good. Some of them even have the
> hq or high quality voices but those you need a wifi connection and you need
> to be plugged in as they are about 300 to 400 mb a piece.
> 
> Take care.
> On Dec 27, 2012, at 9:47 AM, Laurel  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> I just got an iPhone 5 for Christmas. I am using the U.S. English
>> voice, which I think is called Heather. I was just wondering if you
>> can go anywhere to download other voices for the iPhone 5 that work
>> with voice over and are U.S. English. I know there are other voices
>> for the French, Russian, Arabic etc versions of voice over, and I know
>> you can choose Australian English, British English etc, but I don't
>> know about American English voices. I'm just curious.
>> Thanks,
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Re: Social Networking

[matthew Dyer]

Hi,

I have the native fb app but for some reason it is not showing all of my feed.  
I have it sorted newest first, but everything is in such a strange order.  Any 
idea why this is?


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> That's also my favorite part of tweet list is the extended tweets and what's 
> cool is they expand automatically on clients that support extended tweets. 
> 
> as for facebook I also use the native facebook app on the phone as it is fast 
> and works very very well with voice over.
> 
> Happy holidays. 
> On Dec 28, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Paula Hobley  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Lynne
>> 
>> How are you?  I use the native Facebook application on my IOS devices.  I
>> find it works quite well except that you now don't seem to be able to tag
>> people in posts.  You can create a FB account from the app itself, I used
>> the web site to create mine though, so don't know how accessible the app is
>> for creating accounts.  In terms of twitter, I use Tweetlist on my IOS
>> devices, and Night Owl on my mac computers.  In tweetlist, you can do
>> extended tweets.
>> 
>> I hope this helps.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> Paula
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mrs. Lynnette
>> Annabel Smith
>> Sent: Saturday, 29 December 2012 1:57 PM
>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: Social Networking
>> 
>> Hello everybody
>> 
>> Can somebody tell me please what's the best way of creating a FaceBook
>> account? I know it's now synchronised with the operating system like Twitter
>> is, so I wonder what has to be done. Also, what utilities if any do people
>> use for FaceBook? We are still using Syrix for Twitter, we find it the
>> simplest and most efficient application but it's a little irritating in its
>> message length restriction. Can anybody give me a reason why we should
>> switch and, if so, to what?
>> 
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Reinstalling sl.

[matthew Dyer]

Hi all,

I am consittering reinstalling snow lepered how ever I no longer have the disk 
to do so.  Does anyone know if there is a place whare I can still get it.  I am 
unable to run anything better do to the lac of ram in this 3 year old machine.  
I have been experiencing nothing but trouble with vo as oof late not fucksoing  
that I thought a clean install would fix it.  I have a clopy of my music on an 
external drive and really don't have anything I need to worry about loosing on 
my main drive.  Thanmks again.


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Re: iTunes 11 question.

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it used to be under the advanced tab in preferences.
Caitlyn

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> I thought there used to be an option to stop iTunes from adding every track 
> you played in it to the library but I can't seem to find it any more if it 
> existed. I want to only add tracks I specifically import to iTunes as I 
> listen to lots of things that I don't want in my regular library.
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Re: a wonderful app, and a question

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OK, I'll look at it here in just a bit.

Chris.

On Dec 29, 2012, at 9:50 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:

> It actually can do that too.
> On Dec 29, 2012, at 8:29 AM, Christopher Gilland  
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>> I do not have a braille display, however, there are some books which are on 
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>> definitely do want to read.  They're not in audio format as of yet though.
>> 
>> I just wonder if Louis would help me take the contracted grade 2 braille and 
>> uncontract it back to standard txt format, where I could then read it in 
>> Text Edit or the like.
>> 
>> I'll have to install it and play around with it and see, I guess.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> On Dec 28, 2012, at 10:15 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
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>>> Hello all. I just wanted to say that I found a wonderful braille 
>>> translation program. Its called Louis. Just go to safari and search for it, 
>>> I use the cmd-L bar for this, and look for Louis braille translator or 
>>> something like that. It is free, and even works with Nimath code. Note that 
>>> if you want to read the output, and have a braille display, you'll have to 
>>> turn contractions off on your display. And yes, the app is accessible. I'm 
>>> now looking for a good text or HTML to daisy converter. Anyways, Louis can 
>>> emboss too. My question is, well to explain it, I use messages, a lot. The 
>>> new messages app in Mountainlion, that is. So I have the system speech 
>>> telling me, (contact) is available, and so on all the time. Problem is, it 
>>> interrupts voiceover speech, and when I'm reading a long document it does 
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Re: a wonderful app, and a question

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It actually can do that too.
On Dec 29, 2012, at 8:29 AM, Christopher Gilland  
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> I do not have a braille display, however, there are some books which are on 
> Web Braille that has been incorporated into the NLS Bard web site which I 
> definitely do want to read.  They're not in audio format as of yet though.
> 
> I just wonder if Louis would help me take the contracted grade 2 braille and 
> uncontract it back to standard txt format, where I could then read it in Text 
> Edit or the like.
> 
> I'll have to install it and play around with it and see, I guess.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> On Dec 28, 2012, at 10:15 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
>> Hello all. I just wanted to say that I found a wonderful braille translation 
>> program. Its called Louis. Just go to safari and search for it, I use the 
>> cmd-L bar for this, and look for Louis braille translator or something like 
>> that. It is free, and even works with Nimath code. Note that if you want to 
>> read the output, and have a braille display, you'll have to turn 
>> contractions off on your display. And yes, the app is accessible. I'm now 
>> looking for a good text or HTML to daisy converter. Anyways, Louis can 
>> emboss too. My question is, well to explain it, I use messages, a lot. The 
>> new messages app in Mountainlion, that is. So I have the system speech 
>> telling me, (contact) is available, and so on all the time. Problem is, it 
>> interrupts voiceover speech, and when I'm reading a long document it does 
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Re: a wonderful app, and a question

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Devin,

I do not have a braille display, however, there are some books which are on Web 
Braille that has been incorporated into the NLS Bard web site which I 
definitely do want to read.  They're not in audio format as of yet though.

I just wonder if Louis would help me take the contracted grade 2 braille and 
uncontract it back to standard txt format, where I could then read it in Text 
Edit or the like.

I'll have to install it and play around with it and see, I guess.

Chris.

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> Hello all. I just wanted to say that I found a wonderful braille translation 
> program. Its called Louis. Just go to safari and search for it, I use the 
> cmd-L bar for this, and look for Louis braille translator or something like 
> that. It is free, and even works with Nimath code. Note that if you want to 
> read the output, and have a braille display, you'll have to turn contractions 
> off on your display. And yes, the app is accessible. I'm now looking for a 
> good text or HTML to daisy converter. Anyways, Louis can emboss too. My 
> question is, well to explain it, I use messages, a lot. The new messages app 
> in Mountainlion, that is. So I have the system speech telling me, (contact) 
> is available, and so on all the time. Problem is, it interrupts voiceover 
> speech, and when I'm reading a long document it does get annoying. So is 
> there any ways to fix this?
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Re: iTunes 11 question.

[Danny Noonan]

Well, turns out as far as I can research that there is no way to stop files 
played in iTunes from being added to the library so feather research shows that 
either QuickTime or VLC still work with the apple remote so I'll set my default 
media player to use either of them for media types I use and don't want 
directly added to iTunes.

Danny:

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> you played in it to the library but I can't seem to find it any more if it 
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Re: Newby trouble with desktop

[Catherine Turner]

Hi,

Thanks for your help with this.  I had a measure of success but think
I'll leave it for now as maybe I'll use the doc more than the desktop.
 I did set the view of the finder to list view - do you think that's
sensible?  It sounded like it would be the easiest to use...guess it
depends on personal preference really but am trying to make it as easy
as possible...

Thanks,
Catherine

On 12/24/12, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> It can be depending on your preferences. From the finder which is sort of
> the desk top and you can get to it with cmd tab do the following,
>
> hit cmd cahma.
>
> 2. Check the stuff you want to show up like hard drives and stuff.
>
> 3. Interact wight he tool bar with vo shift down arrow and go to the side
> bar tab.
>
> 4. Press the side bar button with vo space and stop interacting with the
> tool bar. Uncheck the stuff you don't want to see. I unchecked everything as
> i don't use the side bar.
>
> 5. Close the window with cmd w.
>
> Good luck.
> On Dec 24, 2012, at 10:38 AM, Catherine Turner
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>> Hi,
>>
>> Am getting started with Mac and VO and was just trying to look around
>> the desktop.  But Voiceover says it's empty.  I'm sure earlier on it
>> wasn't empty.  Is the desktop empty by default on a new Mac?  Can
>> anyone help?
>>
>> Thanks, and happy holidays to all,
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