Re: Help selecting text on websites

[Catherine Turner]

Hi Chris,

Ok, when on a web page and with Quick Nav on I pressed h to get to a
heading, then VO plus Return.  But I just get a beep which indicates
I'm trying to do something which can't be done.  I tried then moving
somewhere after the heading and pressing VO Return again, then copying
and pasting anyway just to check, and nothing was selected.  I tried
with Quick Nav switched off as well and had the same results.  Have
you any ideas what's going on here?  It's very frustrating and I can't
help thinking I just must be doing something wrong but I don't for the
life of me know what.  I went into keyboard help to make sure I am
pressing the correct keys and it says wen I press Option Control
Return "select item" so I am pressing the right things…any ideas?

Thanks,
Catherine

On 5/2/13, Chris Gilland  wrote:
> There's a way easier way to do this.
>
> Start by placing Voiceover on the item you need to begin selecting from,
> then hit vo+return.  Now use your vo navigation and go to the end of what
> you need selected.  Then hit vo+return again.  Now everything between those
>
> chunks should be selected.  Now just hit command+C to copy.
>
> It took me quite some time to figure this out, but now that I have, it
> usually never fails.
>
> Chris.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Catherine Turner" 
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 4:46 AM
> Subject: Re: Help selecting text on websites
>
>
>> Hi David,
>>
>> I've now assigned a key on the numpad to the copy last phrase to
>> clipboard command and was hoping I could use this to copy quite a
>> large chunk of text to the clipboard.  I started VO reading with a two
>> finger swipe down and when it got to the end of what I wanted two
>> finger tapped to stop it.  I silenced it a bit too late and the last
>> thing it said was "list 2 items" which was after the text I wanted,
>> and when I pasted the result I just had "list two items".  I was then
>> hoping I could move by paragraph and copy those one at a time but
>> paragraphs doesn't seem to be an option in the web rotor.  I haven't
>> tried moving by static text as I assume, because there are links mixed
>> into this largely textual bit of the page, that wouldn't work all the
>> way through.
>>
>> What I want to select is a heading, then a few links, and then a large
>> chunk of text which has some links scattered throughout.  Is it
>> possible to select all this in one go using either the interact with
>> text thing, or the copy last phrase to clipboard thing?  What I mean
>> by "all in one go" is pressing any combination of keystrokes several
>> times to select the stuff without having to select first a heading,
>> copy and paste that, then go and select /copy/paste some text, then
>> the links etc.  If not I'll probably use the quick nav, press shift
>> down arrow method just press it lots of times and see what the results
>> are when I paste it (as VO isn't announcing the selection).
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Catherine
>>
>> On 5/1/13, David Griffith  wrote:
>>> I was on my Mac this afternoon and I had no problem with Safari
>>> announcing
>>> text that I had selected no matter what method I used including lines
>>> and
>>> words selected from the Web rota.
>>> There appears to be a problem then with some Voiceover settings where it
>>>
>>> is
>>> not announcing all selected text. This appears however to be an issue
>>> not
>>> confined to you as others on this list appear also to have encountered
>>> this
>>> problem.
>>> Very peculiar as I cannot reproduce this difficulty at all.
>>>
>>> I am using voiceover with medium verbosity. As far as I am aware I have
>>> not
>>> altered anything else in verbosity.
>>>
>>> David Griffith.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: Help selecting text on websites

[Chris Gilland]

If you don't mind me asking, what web site are you trying to do this with?  I 
would like to try it over here and see if I can reproduce the same results.

Chris.

On May 3, 2013, at 4:33 AM, Catherine Turner 
 wrote:

> Hi Chris,
> 
> Ok, when on a web page and with Quick Nav on I pressed h to get to a
> heading, then VO plus Return.  But I just get a beep which indicates
> I'm trying to do something which can't be done.  I tried then moving
> somewhere after the heading and pressing VO Return again, then copying
> and pasting anyway just to check, and nothing was selected.  I tried
> with Quick Nav switched off as well and had the same results.  Have
> you any ideas what's going on here?  It's very frustrating and I can't
> help thinking I just must be doing something wrong but I don't for the
> life of me know what.  I went into keyboard help to make sure I am
> pressing the correct keys and it says wen I press Option Control
> Return "select item" so I am pressing the right things…any ideas?
> 
> Thanks,
> Catherine
> 
> On 5/2/13, Chris Gilland  wrote:
>> There's a way easier way to do this.
>> 
>> Start by placing Voiceover on the item you need to begin selecting from,
>> then hit vo+return.  Now use your vo navigation and go to the end of what
>> you need selected.  Then hit vo+return again.  Now everything between those
>> 
>> chunks should be selected.  Now just hit command+C to copy.
>> 
>> It took me quite some time to figure this out, but now that I have, it
>> usually never fails.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Catherine Turner" 
>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
>> Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 4:46 AM
>> Subject: Re: Help selecting text on websites
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi David,
>>> 
>>> I've now assigned a key on the numpad to the copy last phrase to
>>> clipboard command and was hoping I could use this to copy quite a
>>> large chunk of text to the clipboard.  I started VO reading with a two
>>> finger swipe down and when it got to the end of what I wanted two
>>> finger tapped to stop it.  I silenced it a bit too late and the last
>>> thing it said was "list 2 items" which was after the text I wanted,
>>> and when I pasted the result I just had "list two items".  I was then
>>> hoping I could move by paragraph and copy those one at a time but
>>> paragraphs doesn't seem to be an option in the web rotor.  I haven't
>>> tried moving by static text as I assume, because there are links mixed
>>> into this largely textual bit of the page, that wouldn't work all the
>>> way through.
>>> 
>>> What I want to select is a heading, then a few links, and then a large
>>> chunk of text which has some links scattered throughout.  Is it
>>> possible to select all this in one go using either the interact with
>>> text thing, or the copy last phrase to clipboard thing?  What I mean
>>> by "all in one go" is pressing any combination of keystrokes several
>>> times to select the stuff without having to select first a heading,
>>> copy and paste that, then go and select /copy/paste some text, then
>>> the links etc.  If not I'll probably use the quick nav, press shift
>>> down arrow method just press it lots of times and see what the results
>>> are when I paste it (as VO isn't announcing the selection).
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Catherine
>>> 
>>> On 5/1/13, David Griffith  wrote:
 I was on my Mac this afternoon and I had no problem with Safari
 announcing
 text that I had selected no matter what method I used including lines
 and
 words selected from the Web rota.
 There appears to be a problem then with some Voiceover settings where it
 
 is
 not announcing all selected text. This appears however to be an issue
 not
 confined to you as others on this list appear also to have encountered
 this
 problem.
 Very peculiar as I cannot reproduce this difficulty at all.
 
 I am using voiceover with medium verbosity. As far as I am aware I have
 not
 altered anything else in verbosity.
 
 David Griffith.
 
 
 
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RE: Help selecting text on websites

[David Griffith]

I have precisely the same problem with headings .
This and other unpredictability's  , including constraints on copying
amounts of text to one paragraph, is why I never ever recommend the VO Enter
method of copying from web pages. It is excessively clunky also in terms of
keystrokes.

The other selection and copying methods are in my experience far more
predictable and reliable. Especially line selection via quick nav and the
rota and or shift VO C.

Because I cannot replicate your general difficulties with  either the
announcement of selected text or using shift VO C it is difficult to know
what to suggest.

I am not sure if there is a setting in Voiceover Utility to return settings
to default, if so this might be worth trying. 
Also perhaps somebody could offer you a set of portable Voiceover settings
to apply which may correct your difficulties. I am not sure how to do this
but would be happy to do this if it helped.
I may not be the best though as I am using an iMac with extended keyboard
and using numpad commander. My settings may not suit somebody using a
MacBook. I also have keys set up in keyboard shortcuts to run programs like
Eyepal which you almost certainly do not have.
Assuming you can eventually get Voiceover to behave properly you should find
Shift VO C the easiest method  as you do not have to select or even use the
copy command, it is all done with the one keystroke. I use it to get around
the copying of heading text problem on web pages frequently for example.

Hope that you resolve this.


David Griffith
-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Catherine Turner
Sent: 03 May 2013 09:33
To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Help selecting text on websites

Hi Chris,

Ok, when on a web page and with Quick Nav on I pressed h to get to a
heading, then VO plus Return.  But I just get a beep which indicates I'm
trying to do something which can't be done.  I tried then moving somewhere
after the heading and pressing VO Return again, then copying and pasting
anyway just to check, and nothing was selected.  I tried with Quick Nav
switched off as well and had the same results.  Have you any ideas what's
going on here?  It's very frustrating and I can't help thinking I just must
be doing something wrong but I don't for the life of me know what.  I went
into keyboard help to make sure I am pressing the correct keys and it says
wen I press Option Control Return "select item" so I am pressing the right
things.any ideas?

Thanks,
Catherine

On 5/2/13, Chris Gilland  wrote:
> There's a way easier way to do this.
>
> Start by placing Voiceover on the item you need to begin selecting 
> from, then hit vo+return.  Now use your vo navigation and go to the 
> end of what you need selected.  Then hit vo+return again.  Now 
> everything between those
>
> chunks should be selected.  Now just hit command+C to copy.
>
> It took me quite some time to figure this out, but now that I have, it 
> usually never fails.
>
> Chris.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Catherine Turner" 
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 4:46 AM
> Subject: Re: Help selecting text on websites
>
>
>> Hi David,
>>
>> I've now assigned a key on the numpad to the copy last phrase to 
>> clipboard command and was hoping I could use this to copy quite a 
>> large chunk of text to the clipboard.  I started VO reading with a 
>> two finger swipe down and when it got to the end of what I wanted two 
>> finger tapped to stop it.  I silenced it a bit too late and the last 
>> thing it said was "list 2 items" which was after the text I wanted, 
>> and when I pasted the result I just had "list two items".  I was then 
>> hoping I could move by paragraph and copy those one at a time but 
>> paragraphs doesn't seem to be an option in the web rotor.  I haven't 
>> tried moving by static text as I assume, because there are links 
>> mixed into this largely textual bit of the page, that wouldn't work 
>> all the way through.
>>
>> What I want to select is a heading, then a few links, and then a 
>> large chunk of text which has some links scattered throughout.  Is it 
>> possible to select all this in one go using either the interact with 
>> text thing, or the copy last phrase to clipboard thing?  What I mean 
>> by "all in one go" is pressing any combination of keystrokes several 
>> times to select the stuff without having to select first a heading, 
>> copy and paste that, then go and select /copy/paste some text, then 
>> the links etc.  If not I'll probably use the quick nav, press shift 
>> down arrow method just press it lots of times and see what the 
>> results are when I paste it (as VO isn't announcing the selection).
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Catherine
>>
>> On 5/1/13, David Griffith  wrote:
>>> I was on my Mac this afternoon and I had no problem with Safari 
>>> announcing text that I had selected no matter what method I used 

Re: Help selecting text on websites

[Josh Gregory]

Yeah there is a way to reset everything. When in  VoiceOver utility, go into 
the file menu and there's a reset option. From there you can reset the custom 
settings to default settings, reset all settings  and other such things. Hth.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 3, 2013, at 4:54 AM, "David Griffith"  wrote:

> I have precisely the same problem with headings .
> This and other unpredictability's  , including constraints on copying
> amounts of text to one paragraph, is why I never ever recommend the VO Enter
> method of copying from web pages. It is excessively clunky also in terms of
> keystrokes.
> 
> The other selection and copying methods are in my experience far more
> predictable and reliable. Especially line selection via quick nav and the
> rota and or shift VO C.
> 
> Because I cannot replicate your general difficulties with  either the
> announcement of selected text or using shift VO C it is difficult to know
> what to suggest.
> 
> I am not sure if there is a setting in Voiceover Utility to return settings
> to default, if so this might be worth trying. 
> Also perhaps somebody could offer you a set of portable Voiceover settings
> to apply which may correct your difficulties. I am not sure how to do this
> but would be happy to do this if it helped.
> I may not be the best though as I am using an iMac with extended keyboard
> and using numpad commander. My settings may not suit somebody using a
> MacBook. I also have keys set up in keyboard shortcuts to run programs like
> Eyepal which you almost certainly do not have.
> Assuming you can eventually get Voiceover to behave properly you should find
> Shift VO C the easiest method  as you do not have to select or even use the
> copy command, it is all done with the one keystroke. I use it to get around
> the copying of heading text problem on web pages frequently for example.
> 
> Hope that you resolve this.
> 
> 
> David Griffith
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Catherine Turner
> Sent: 03 May 2013 09:33
> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: Help selecting text on websites
> 
> Hi Chris,
> 
> Ok, when on a web page and with Quick Nav on I pressed h to get to a
> heading, then VO plus Return.  But I just get a beep which indicates I'm
> trying to do something which can't be done.  I tried then moving somewhere
> after the heading and pressing VO Return again, then copying and pasting
> anyway just to check, and nothing was selected.  I tried with Quick Nav
> switched off as well and had the same results.  Have you any ideas what's
> going on here?  It's very frustrating and I can't help thinking I just must
> be doing something wrong but I don't for the life of me know what.  I went
> into keyboard help to make sure I am pressing the correct keys and it says
> wen I press Option Control Return "select item" so I am pressing the right
> things.any ideas?
> 
> Thanks,
> Catherine
> 
> On 5/2/13, Chris Gilland  wrote:
>> There's a way easier way to do this.
>> 
>> Start by placing Voiceover on the item you need to begin selecting 
>> from, then hit vo+return.  Now use your vo navigation and go to the 
>> end of what you need selected.  Then hit vo+return again.  Now 
>> everything between those
>> 
>> chunks should be selected.  Now just hit command+C to copy.
>> 
>> It took me quite some time to figure this out, but now that I have, it 
>> usually never fails.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Catherine Turner" 
>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
>> Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 4:46 AM
>> Subject: Re: Help selecting text on websites
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi David,
>>> 
>>> I've now assigned a key on the numpad to the copy last phrase to 
>>> clipboard command and was hoping I could use this to copy quite a 
>>> large chunk of text to the clipboard.  I started VO reading with a 
>>> two finger swipe down and when it got to the end of what I wanted two 
>>> finger tapped to stop it.  I silenced it a bit too late and the last 
>>> thing it said was "list 2 items" which was after the text I wanted, 
>>> and when I pasted the result I just had "list two items".  I was then 
>>> hoping I could move by paragraph and copy those one at a time but 
>>> paragraphs doesn't seem to be an option in the web rotor.  I haven't 
>>> tried moving by static text as I assume, because there are links 
>>> mixed into this largely textual bit of the page, that wouldn't work 
>>> all the way through.
>>> 
>>> What I want to select is a heading, then a few links, and then a 
>>> large chunk of text which has some links scattered throughout.  Is it 
>>> possible to select all this in one go using either the interact with 
>>> text thing, or the copy last phrase to clipboard thing?  What I mean 
>>> by "all in one go" is pressing any combination of keystrokes several 
>>> times to select the stuff without having to select first a heading, 
>>> copy and

Re: Help selecting text on websites

[Isaac Hebert]

Yes resetting fixes most problems.

On 5/3/13, Josh Gregory  wrote:
> Yeah there is a way to reset everything. When in  VoiceOver utility, go into
> the file menu and there's a reset option. From there you can reset the
> custom settings to default settings, reset all settings  and other such
> things. Hth.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 3, 2013, at 4:54 AM, "David Griffith" 
> wrote:
>
>> I have precisely the same problem with headings .
>> This and other unpredictability's  , including constraints on copying
>> amounts of text to one paragraph, is why I never ever recommend the VO
>> Enter
>> method of copying from web pages. It is excessively clunky also in terms
>> of
>> keystrokes.
>>
>> The other selection and copying methods are in my experience far more
>> predictable and reliable. Especially line selection via quick nav and the
>> rota and or shift VO C.
>>
>> Because I cannot replicate your general difficulties with  either the
>> announcement of selected text or using shift VO C it is difficult to know
>> what to suggest.
>>
>> I am not sure if there is a setting in Voiceover Utility to return
>> settings
>> to default, if so this might be worth trying.
>> Also perhaps somebody could offer you a set of portable Voiceover
>> settings
>> to apply which may correct your difficulties. I am not sure how to do
>> this
>> but would be happy to do this if it helped.
>> I may not be the best though as I am using an iMac with extended keyboard
>> and using numpad commander. My settings may not suit somebody using a
>> MacBook. I also have keys set up in keyboard shortcuts to run programs
>> like
>> Eyepal which you almost certainly do not have.
>> Assuming you can eventually get Voiceover to behave properly you should
>> find
>> Shift VO C the easiest method  as you do not have to select or even use
>> the
>> copy command, it is all done with the one keystroke. I use it to get
>> around
>> the copying of heading text problem on web pages frequently for example.
>>
>> Hope that you resolve this.
>>
>>
>> David Griffith
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Catherine Turner
>> Sent: 03 May 2013 09:33
>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: Re: Help selecting text on websites
>>
>> Hi Chris,
>>
>> Ok, when on a web page and with Quick Nav on I pressed h to get to a
>> heading, then VO plus Return.  But I just get a beep which indicates I'm
>> trying to do something which can't be done.  I tried then moving
>> somewhere
>> after the heading and pressing VO Return again, then copying and pasting
>> anyway just to check, and nothing was selected.  I tried with Quick Nav
>> switched off as well and had the same results.  Have you any ideas what's
>> going on here?  It's very frustrating and I can't help thinking I just
>> must
>> be doing something wrong but I don't for the life of me know what.  I
>> went
>> into keyboard help to make sure I am pressing the correct keys and it
>> says
>> wen I press Option Control Return "select item" so I am pressing the
>> right
>> things.any ideas?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Catherine
>>
>> On 5/2/13, Chris Gilland  wrote:
>>> There's a way easier way to do this.
>>>
>>> Start by placing Voiceover on the item you need to begin selecting
>>> from, then hit vo+return.  Now use your vo navigation and go to the
>>> end of what you need selected.  Then hit vo+return again.  Now
>>> everything between those
>>>
>>> chunks should be selected.  Now just hit command+C to copy.
>>>
>>> It took me quite some time to figure this out, but now that I have, it
>>> usually never fails.
>>>
>>> Chris.
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Catherine Turner" 
>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 4:46 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Help selecting text on websites
>>>
>>>
 Hi David,

 I've now assigned a key on the numpad to the copy last phrase to
 clipboard command and was hoping I could use this to copy quite a
 large chunk of text to the clipboard.  I started VO reading with a
 two finger swipe down and when it got to the end of what I wanted two
 finger tapped to stop it.  I silenced it a bit too late and the last
 thing it said was "list 2 items" which was after the text I wanted,
 and when I pasted the result I just had "list two items".  I was then
 hoping I could move by paragraph and copy those one at a time but
 paragraphs doesn't seem to be an option in the web rotor.  I haven't
 tried moving by static text as I assume, because there are links
 mixed into this largely textual bit of the page, that wouldn't work
 all the way through.

 What I want to select is a heading, then a few links, and then a
 large chunk of text which has some links scattered throughout.  Is it
 possible to select all this in one go using either the interact with
 text thing, or the copy last phrase to clipbo

Re: Turning pages kindle app

[Sarah k Alawami]

Actually before the kindle was not accessible at all. the hardware thing had 
voice reading turned off by choice of the writer's  and publishers guild. Also, 
there ios app before was not accessible at all. All you saw was the title of 
the book. I have a podcast of a podcast that was done 2 years ago when kindle 
was first out.  or maybe it was a year and  half and the person could not even 
remotely use the app. as there was nothing to use. and more and more colleges 
are switching to kindle for their text books so students can take notes in the 
margins and keep the books and stuff. So in a way amazon has no choice but to 
make their hardware and software accessible if students are to succeed in the 
class room. especially since some times a digital copy is all you have. Now 
let's hope if the kindle has a mac version it can and will one day become 
accessible.

Take care all.
On May 2, 2013, at 3:15 PM, Paula Hobley  wrote:

> I don't' get the whole thanking Amazon thing.  I mean, do people thank them
> for making the app usable without VO?  (at risk of being controversial)
> 
> Take care
> 
> Paula
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Devin Prater
> Sent: Friday, 3 May 2013 7:18 AM
> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: Turning pages kindle app
> 
> Also thank them for at least making the app usable. I suppose they just did
> that so the NFB would leave them alone lol 
> 
> Sent from my iPod
> 
> On 2 mai 2013, at 08:33, Isaac Hebert  wrote:
> 
>> Yes we should all contact amazon to  give them suggestions to add the 
>> ability to turn pages in the app.
>> 
>> On 5/2/13, Chris Gilland  wrote:
>>> I somewhat recall not having success with that, but I'll gladly try
> again.
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Will" 
>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 5:32 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Turning pages kindle app
>>> 
>>> 
 Use three finger flick left
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 2 May 2013, at 10:28 AM, "Chris Gilland" 
 
 wrote:
 
> I've not played with things enough to know, but I will say that 
> what I find extremely aggervating is no way to manually turn pages 
> that I can see.  I know it'll do it with the say all command, (two 
> finger flick
> down,) but sometimes it's nice to be able to do it yourself.  That 
> all being said, this is fantastic! that Amazon finally! got off 
> their butts and got it working even this well.  Who knows, maybe if 
> we all contact them and let them know our appreciation, and make 
> these little suggestions/feedback notices be known to them, we 
> might in the long run be able to get ourselves a pretty sweet little
> app.
> 
> Chris.
> - Original Message - From: "Will" 
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 4:38 AM
> Subject: Turning pages kindle app
> 
> 
>> Hello to all,
>> Has anyone else who uses the kindle program on the iPad noticed a 
>> significant delay when pages are automatically turning? I hear 
>> around 6
>> 
>> second silence at bottom page, followed by a thump  sound, 
>> followed by the page turning sent. This I feel really detracts 
>> from the reading experience. Our use an iPad mini, Not sure same 
>> issues iphone Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Turning pages kindle app

[Paula Hobley]

Hi Sarah

Do you know, is it possible for people using VO to take notes in the
margins?  This would be a really handy feature for me.

Catch you soon

Paula


-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Saturday, 4 May 2013 12:37 AM
To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Turning pages kindle app

Actually before the kindle was not accessible at all. the hardware thing had
voice reading turned off by choice of the writer's  and publishers guild.
Also, there ios app before was not accessible at all. All you saw was the
title of the book. I have a podcast of a podcast that was done 2 years ago
when kindle was first out.  or maybe it was a year and  half and the person
could not even remotely use the app. as there was nothing to use. and more
and more colleges are switching to kindle for their text books so students
can take notes in the margins and keep the books and stuff. So in a way
amazon has no choice but to make their hardware and software accessible if
students are to succeed in the class room. especially since some times a
digital copy is all you have. Now let's hope if the kindle has a mac version
it can and will one day become accessible.

Take care all.
On May 2, 2013, at 3:15 PM, Paula Hobley  wrote:

> I don't' get the whole thanking Amazon thing.  I mean, do people thank 
> them for making the app usable without VO?  (at risk of being 
> controversial)
> 
> Take care
> 
> Paula
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net 
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Devin Prater
> Sent: Friday, 3 May 2013 7:18 AM
> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: Turning pages kindle app
> 
> Also thank them for at least making the app usable. I suppose they 
> just did that so the NFB would leave them alone lol
> 
> Sent from my iPod
> 
> On 2 mai 2013, at 08:33, Isaac Hebert  wrote:
> 
>> Yes we should all contact amazon to  give them suggestions to add the 
>> ability to turn pages in the app.
>> 
>> On 5/2/13, Chris Gilland  wrote:
>>> I somewhat recall not having success with that, but I'll gladly try
> again.
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Will" 
>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 5:32 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Turning pages kindle app
>>> 
>>> 
 Use three finger flick left
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 2 May 2013, at 10:28 AM, "Chris Gilland" 
 
 wrote:
 
> I've not played with things enough to know, but I will say that 
> what I find extremely aggervating is no way to manually turn pages 
> that I can see.  I know it'll do it with the say all command, (two 
> finger flick
> down,) but sometimes it's nice to be able to do it yourself.  That 
> all being said, this is fantastic! that Amazon finally! got off 
> their butts and got it working even this well.  Who knows, maybe 
> if we all contact them and let them know our appreciation, and 
> make these little suggestions/feedback notices be known to them, 
> we might in the long run be able to get ourselves a pretty sweet 
> little
> app.
> 
> Chris.
> - Original Message - From: "Will" 
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 4:38 AM
> Subject: Turning pages kindle app
> 
> 
>> Hello to all,
>> Has anyone else who uses the kindle program on the iPad noticed a 
>> significant delay when pages are automatically turning? I hear 
>> around 6
>> 
>> second silence at bottom page, followed by a thump  sound, 
>> followed by the page turning sent. This I feel really detracts 
>> from the reading experience. Our use an iPad mini, Not sure same 
>> issues iphone Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Turning pages kindle app

[Zachary Kline]

Hi,
Yes, you can. I have just tested the feature, and it works very well indeed. 
You can write notes, and later go to them easily. The one thing it doesn't seem 
to do is to announce notes as you read continuously, which could probably get a 
little jarring.
HOpe this helps,
Zack.
On May 3, 2013, at 4:15 PM, "Paula Hobley"  wrote:

> Hi Sarah
> 
> Do you know, is it possible for people using VO to take notes in the
> margins?  This would be a really handy feature for me.
> 
> Catch you soon
> 
> Paula
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
> Sent: Saturday, 4 May 2013 12:37 AM
> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: Turning pages kindle app
> 
> Actually before the kindle was not accessible at all. the hardware thing had
> voice reading turned off by choice of the writer's  and publishers guild.
> Also, there ios app before was not accessible at all. All you saw was the
> title of the book. I have a podcast of a podcast that was done 2 years ago
> when kindle was first out.  or maybe it was a year and  half and the person
> could not even remotely use the app. as there was nothing to use. and more
> and more colleges are switching to kindle for their text books so students
> can take notes in the margins and keep the books and stuff. So in a way
> amazon has no choice but to make their hardware and software accessible if
> students are to succeed in the class room. especially since some times a
> digital copy is all you have. Now let's hope if the kindle has a mac version
> it can and will one day become accessible.
> 
> Take care all.
> On May 2, 2013, at 3:15 PM, Paula Hobley  wrote:
> 
>> I don't' get the whole thanking Amazon thing.  I mean, do people thank 
>> them for making the app usable without VO?  (at risk of being 
>> controversial)
>> 
>> Take care
>> 
>> Paula
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net 
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Devin Prater
>> Sent: Friday, 3 May 2013 7:18 AM
>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: Re: Turning pages kindle app
>> 
>> Also thank them for at least making the app usable. I suppose they 
>> just did that so the NFB would leave them alone lol
>> 
>> Sent from my iPod
>> 
>> On 2 mai 2013, at 08:33, Isaac Hebert  wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes we should all contact amazon to  give them suggestions to add the 
>>> ability to turn pages in the app.
>>> 
>>> On 5/2/13, Chris Gilland  wrote:
 I somewhat recall not having success with that, but I'll gladly try
>> again.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: "Will" 
 To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
 Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 5:32 AM
 Subject: Re: Turning pages kindle app
 
 
> Use three finger flick left
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 2 May 2013, at 10:28 AM, "Chris Gilland" 
> 
> wrote:
> 
>> I've not played with things enough to know, but I will say that 
>> what I find extremely aggervating is no way to manually turn pages 
>> that I can see.  I know it'll do it with the say all command, (two 
>> finger flick
>> down,) but sometimes it's nice to be able to do it yourself.  That 
>> all being said, this is fantastic! that Amazon finally! got off 
>> their butts and got it working even this well.  Who knows, maybe 
>> if we all contact them and let them know our appreciation, and 
>> make these little suggestions/feedback notices be known to them, 
>> we might in the long run be able to get ourselves a pretty sweet 
>> little
>> app.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> - Original Message - From: "Will" 
>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
>> Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 4:38 AM
>> Subject: Turning pages kindle app
>> 
>> 
>>> Hello to all,
>>> Has anyone else who uses the kindle program on the iPad noticed a 
>>> significant delay when pages are automatically turning? I hear 
>>> around 6
>>> 
>>> second silence at bottom page, followed by a thump  sound, 
>>> followed by the page turning sent. This I feel really detracts 
>>> from the reading experience. Our use an iPad mini, Not sure same 
>>> issues iphone Sent from my iPhone
>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --->
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>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to 
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RE: Turning pages kindle app

[Paula Hobley]

Thanks Zack, this is awesome. I may just start reading all of my books this
way and taking notes.

Thanks so much for the info.

Paula


-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Zachary Kline
Sent: Saturday, 4 May 2013 9:23 AM
To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Turning pages kindle app

Hi,
Yes, you can. I have just tested the feature, and it works very well indeed.
You can write notes, and later go to them easily. The one thing it doesn't
seem to do is to announce notes as you read continuously, which could
probably get a little jarring.
HOpe this helps,
Zack.
On May 3, 2013, at 4:15 PM, "Paula Hobley"  wrote:

> Hi Sarah
> 
> Do you know, is it possible for people using VO to take notes in the 
> margins?  This would be a really handy feature for me.
> 
> Catch you soon
> 
> Paula
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net 
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah k 
> Alawami
> Sent: Saturday, 4 May 2013 12:37 AM
> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: Turning pages kindle app
> 
> Actually before the kindle was not accessible at all. the hardware 
> thing had voice reading turned off by choice of the writer's  and
publishers guild.
> Also, there ios app before was not accessible at all. All you saw was 
> the title of the book. I have a podcast of a podcast that was done 2 
> years ago when kindle was first out.  or maybe it was a year and  half 
> and the person could not even remotely use the app. as there was 
> nothing to use. and more and more colleges are switching to kindle for 
> their text books so students can take notes in the margins and keep 
> the books and stuff. So in a way amazon has no choice but to make 
> their hardware and software accessible if students are to succeed in 
> the class room. especially since some times a digital copy is all you 
> have. Now let's hope if the kindle has a mac version it can and will one
day become accessible.
> 
> Take care all.
> On May 2, 2013, at 3:15 PM, Paula Hobley  wrote:
> 
>> I don't' get the whole thanking Amazon thing.  I mean, do people 
>> thank them for making the app usable without VO?  (at risk of being
>> controversial)
>> 
>> Take care
>> 
>> Paula
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net 
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Devin Prater
>> Sent: Friday, 3 May 2013 7:18 AM
>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: Re: Turning pages kindle app
>> 
>> Also thank them for at least making the app usable. I suppose they 
>> just did that so the NFB would leave them alone lol
>> 
>> Sent from my iPod
>> 
>> On 2 mai 2013, at 08:33, Isaac Hebert  wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes we should all contact amazon to  give them suggestions to add 
>>> the ability to turn pages in the app.
>>> 
>>> On 5/2/13, Chris Gilland  wrote:
 I somewhat recall not having success with that, but I'll gladly try
>> again.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: "Will" 
 To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
 Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 5:32 AM
 Subject: Re: Turning pages kindle app
 
 
> Use three finger flick left
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 2 May 2013, at 10:28 AM, "Chris Gilland" 
> 
> wrote:
> 
>> I've not played with things enough to know, but I will say that 
>> what I find extremely aggervating is no way to manually turn 
>> pages that I can see.  I know it'll do it with the say all 
>> command, (two finger flick
>> down,) but sometimes it's nice to be able to do it yourself.  
>> That all being said, this is fantastic! that Amazon finally! got 
>> off their butts and got it working even this well.  Who knows, 
>> maybe if we all contact them and let them know our appreciation, 
>> and make these little suggestions/feedback notices be known to 
>> them, we might in the long run be able to get ourselves a pretty 
>> sweet little
>> app.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> - Original Message - From: "Will" 
>> 
>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
>> Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 4:38 AM
>> Subject: Turning pages kindle app
>> 
>> 
>>> Hello to all,
>>> Has anyone else who uses the kindle program on the iPad noticed 
>>> a significant delay when pages are automatically turning? I hear 
>>> around 6
>>> 
>>> second silence at bottom page, followed by a thump  sound, 
>>> followed by the page turning sent. This I feel really detracts 
>>> from the reading experience. Our use an iPad mini, Not sure same 
>>> issues iphone Sent from my iPhone
>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --->
>>> 
>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to 
>>> mac-access@mac-access.net
>>> 
>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted

major problem with finder

[Michael Marshall]

hello listers,
i was on my mac this morning when i thought i would move some files from one 
folder to another sounds simple.
when the move was taking place for some stupid reason i hit the stop button and 
now the files are missing no where to be found.
has anyone had this happen to them? has the mac put the missing files 
somewhere? i checked trash and they are not in there.
thanks for any help.
Michael
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Re: major problem with finder

[Esther]

Hi Michael,

I've never done file moves and stopped the process midway like that.  I think 
that if you had tried to do an "undo" with Command+z immediately after, you 
might have been able to get the files back to where they started (depending on 
how you performed the move; and this doesn't work once the files in question 
are no longer highlighted under the last action).  My guess is that they're on 
your system, but that you stopped the reindexing of the new path to the files 
in the middle.  If this were on my Mac I'd use the Terminal in command line 
mode to query the directories in question, and get a listing of the file 
contents, including "hidden files", in order of modification time, assuming 
that you haven't been changing lots of files in those directories since then, 
but you'll need to hear from someone with more experience with this process.  
Maybe Travis, or someone else with system experience can weigh in.  In the 
meantime, sit tight, and don't worry too much about this.

Cheers,

Esther

On May 3, 2013, at 2:42 PM, Michael Marshall  wrote:

> hello listers,
> i was on my mac this morning when i thought i would move some files from one 
> folder to another sounds simple.
> when the move was taking place for some stupid reason i hit the stop button 
> and now the files are missing no where to be found.
> has anyone had this happen to them? has the mac put the missing files 
> somewhere? i checked trash and they are not in there.
> thanks for any help.
> Michael
> 
> 
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Re: major problem with finder

[Michael Marshall]

hey,
thanks for getting back to me on this.
i tryed getting the system to show hidden files but no dice.
thanks again.
Michael
On 04/05/2013, at 12:09 PM, Esther  wrote:

> Hi Michael,
> 
> I've never done file moves and stopped the process midway like that.  I think 
> that if you had tried to do an "undo" with Command+z immediately after, you 
> might have been able to get the files back to where they started (depending 
> on how you performed the move; and this doesn't work once the files in 
> question are no longer highlighted under the last action).  My guess is that 
> they're on your system, but that you stopped the reindexing of the new path 
> to the files in the middle.  If this were on my Mac I'd use the Terminal in 
> command line mode to query the directories in question, and get a listing of 
> the file contents, including "hidden files", in order of modification time, 
> assuming that you haven't been changing lots of files in those directories 
> since then, but you'll need to hear from someone with more experience with 
> this process.  Maybe Travis, or someone else with system experience can weigh 
> in.  In the meantime, sit tight, and don't worry too much about this.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On May 3, 2013, at 2:42 PM, Michael Marshall  
> wrote:
> 
>> hello listers,
>> i was on my mac this morning when i thought i would move some files from one 
>> folder to another sounds simple.
>> when the move was taking place for some stupid reason i hit the stop button 
>> and now the files are missing no where to be found.
>> has anyone had this happen to them? has the mac put the missing files 
>> somewhere? i checked trash and they are not in there.
>> thanks for any help.
>> Michael
>> 
>> 
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Re: Turning pages kindle app

[Sarah k Alawami]

This is good. Hey if I can find some free books and if I can learn the app in a 
timely manner would any of you like tffp to do a podcast on it? Now now as I'm 
in the middle of semester finals for 2 weeks. lol! Hehahaha.

Take care.
On May 3, 2013, at 4:39 PM, Paula Hobley  wrote:

> Thanks Zack, this is awesome. I may just start reading all of my books this
> way and taking notes.
> 
> Thanks so much for the info.
> 
> Paula
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Zachary Kline
> Sent: Saturday, 4 May 2013 9:23 AM
> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: Turning pages kindle app
> 
> Hi,
> Yes, you can. I have just tested the feature, and it works very well indeed.
> You can write notes, and later go to them easily. The one thing it doesn't
> seem to do is to announce notes as you read continuously, which could
> probably get a little jarring.
> HOpe this helps,
> Zack.
> On May 3, 2013, at 4:15 PM, "Paula Hobley"  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Sarah
>> 
>> Do you know, is it possible for people using VO to take notes in the 
>> margins?  This would be a really handy feature for me.
>> 
>> Catch you soon
>> 
>> Paula
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net 
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah k 
>> Alawami
>> Sent: Saturday, 4 May 2013 12:37 AM
>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: Re: Turning pages kindle app
>> 
>> Actually before the kindle was not accessible at all. the hardware 
>> thing had voice reading turned off by choice of the writer's  and
> publishers guild.
>> Also, there ios app before was not accessible at all. All you saw was 
>> the title of the book. I have a podcast of a podcast that was done 2 
>> years ago when kindle was first out.  or maybe it was a year and  half 
>> and the person could not even remotely use the app. as there was 
>> nothing to use. and more and more colleges are switching to kindle for 
>> their text books so students can take notes in the margins and keep 
>> the books and stuff. So in a way amazon has no choice but to make 
>> their hardware and software accessible if students are to succeed in 
>> the class room. especially since some times a digital copy is all you 
>> have. Now let's hope if the kindle has a mac version it can and will one
> day become accessible.
>> 
>> Take care all.
>> On May 2, 2013, at 3:15 PM, Paula Hobley  wrote:
>> 
>>> I don't' get the whole thanking Amazon thing.  I mean, do people 
>>> thank them for making the app usable without VO?  (at risk of being
>>> controversial)
>>> 
>>> Take care
>>> 
>>> Paula
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net 
>>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Devin Prater
>>> Sent: Friday, 3 May 2013 7:18 AM
>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
>>> Subject: Re: Turning pages kindle app
>>> 
>>> Also thank them for at least making the app usable. I suppose they 
>>> just did that so the NFB would leave them alone lol
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPod
>>> 
>>> On 2 mai 2013, at 08:33, Isaac Hebert  wrote:
>>> 
 Yes we should all contact amazon to  give them suggestions to add 
 the ability to turn pages in the app.
 
 On 5/2/13, Chris Gilland  wrote:
> I somewhat recall not having success with that, but I'll gladly try
>>> again.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Will" 
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 5:32 AM
> Subject: Re: Turning pages kindle app
> 
> 
>> Use three finger flick left
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 2 May 2013, at 10:28 AM, "Chris Gilland" 
>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I've not played with things enough to know, but I will say that 
>>> what I find extremely aggervating is no way to manually turn 
>>> pages that I can see.  I know it'll do it with the say all 
>>> command, (two finger flick
>>> down,) but sometimes it's nice to be able to do it yourself.  
>>> That all being said, this is fantastic! that Amazon finally! got 
>>> off their butts and got it working even this well.  Who knows, 
>>> maybe if we all contact them and let them know our appreciation, 
>>> and make these little suggestions/feedback notices be known to 
>>> them, we might in the long run be able to get ourselves a pretty 
>>> sweet little
>>> app.
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> - Original Message - From: "Will" 
>>> 
>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 4:38 AM
>>> Subject: Turning pages kindle app
>>> 
>>> 
 Hello to all,
 Has anyone else who uses the kindle program on the iPad noticed 
 a significant delay when pages are automatically turning? I hear 
 around 6
 
 second silence at bottom pag

CereProc Voices for Mac

[Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith]

Hello everybody

Have any of you tried the CereProc voices for OS X?  These voices are developed 
by a company based in Scotland, here in the UK.  They do several voices and 
also have a number of companies who have incorporated the voices into their own 
solutions. They are so good that I bought Gordon a couple of them. They are 
almost as good as the Acapella voices and, at just over £21 each, they are a 
snip at the price.
You can find the voices here:


I would be interested to hear any informed opinion.

He

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