Microphones for iPhone

[Dane Trethowan]

Hi!

If you want to turn your iPhone into a piece of high quality audio equipment 
then perhaps you may consider the following high quality microphone kits at 


I also saw a Wireless microphone kit available for the iPhone, will send 
details shortly.



**

Dane Trethowan
Skype: grtdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
Fax +61397437954



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RE: A couple of internet questions

[wayne17a]

Hello I know there is a iplayer app for the Iphone and ipad but I
don't know if they are accessable but they are free so give them a go

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of ANDY COLLINS
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 5:33 PM
To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: A couple of internet questions

Thanks Sarah - I'll try the vo f as an alternative search method. I'm still
struggling with the Internet on the Mac. I'm focussing mostly on the BBC
here in the UK, as that is where I do a lot of my catching up on radio I
missed during the week.

For example, on:

www.bbc.co.uk/4extra

I couldn't find the schedule link very easily, but I was using command f to
search for it. I also used the web rowter to try and find it in links or
headings, but it wasn't there, even though I know such a link exists as I've
used it for years on a Winndows machine.

After some good initial early progress, progress has slowed down a bit in my
Mac learning -

Andy
- Original Message -
From: "Sarah k Alawami" 
To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 9:16 PM
Subject: Re: A couple of internet questions


>I can't help with the find command as I use vo f to do my search.  then vo 
>g and vo shift g to look. but I can say this.
>
> Just look for the sign in link or log in link if you loved out or signed 
> out.
>
> Take care.
> On Jul 11, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Andy Collins  
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all -
>>
>> If I use command f for find, when on a webpage, I never seem to get any 
>> results, even though I know what I am looking for is there. I enter text,

>> and nothing happens, not by pressing vo space, or hitting enter. Anybody 
>> give me some pointers to making the find/search option work? Also, when 
>> logging out of some websites, especially banking ones, I'd like some 
>> spoken confirmation that I had logged out successfully, can I do anything

>> to get this info spoken to me the way JAWS use to?
>>
>> Thanks -
>>
>> Andy
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Re: chess on the mac

[Esther]

Hi John,

The default chess program on the Mac can't really be set for more complex 
levels.  As far as accessibility goes, you can even set it up to work with 
"Speakable Items" if you calibrate the microphone on your Mac (though I haven't 
done this in some time), but you can't change the level of play.  I'm not aware 
of anyone on this list who uses strong chess playing programs on the Mac.  
Brandt Steenkamp, a South African iPhone user who got a Mac about 4-5 months 
ago, is probably the only person I can quickly identify who is interested in 
playing at a comparable level of chess on the Mac, as opposed to just using the 
iOS versions of chess apps like Shredder, etc. 

You might be interested that there's a good, accessible iOS chess clock app: 
the Merkmatics Chess Clock ($0.99 in the U.S. App Store).  Here's the URL for 
the developer's web site, where you can read a complete description of its 
features:
http://www.merkmatics.com

A description of the app is also posted up at AppleVis:
http://www.applevis.com/apps/ios/utilities/merkmatics-chess-clock

Here's the App Store URL:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/merkmatics-chess-clock/id347870076?mt=8
I bet that if there are any features you want added, you could get them put in 
by sending an email to the developer, Mat Merkow, at: 
supp...@merkmatics.com

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther


On 11 Jul 2013, at 01:58, John Gallagher wrote:

> Hi there yes I got the one but I can beat it easerley though you have to give 
> it a real pluss for accessability thanks  though.
> At 12:57 11/07/2013, you wrote:
>> there is  a billt in chess game on  the  mac in  your Applications file
>> On 11 Jul 2013, at 12:49, John Gallagher  wrote:
>> 
>> > Hi  all,
>> > Wonder if anyone uses a strong chess playing program on the mac.
>> > the normal chess programs  on the windows computers are just about 
>> > accessible in the way you can get the programs to speak ot the moves.
>> > I use fritz hiarcs and shredder.
>> > there is a brilliant program called hiarcs chess explorer but it has no 
>> > access on a mac or windows pc.
>> > last year in india where we played in the olympiad I used my netbook to 
>> > look at the chess databases for our study.
>> > I really love my mac learning about safari I have better acces with my 
>> > bank site. with window eyes I struggle to loggin but on a mac I managed it.
>> > I get a bit mixed up when I should interact with some thing but I really 
>> > feel I am winning.
>> > thanks for any replies.
>> >
>> > 
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Re: a Hd Voice Call Between 2 iPhone 5 Handsets

[Josh Gregory]

Nice, as the technology becomes more readily available we can look forward to 
better sounding phone calls. I look forward to that day, believe me.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 11, 2013, at 6:16 PM, "Rudolph, Douglas"  
wrote:

> Only the 5 has this ability in iOS devices
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 2013-07-11, at 4:01 PM, "Josh Gregory"  wrote:
> 
>> Well if Verizon has it I'll be in luck. Does it work on people that don't 
>> have iPhone 5's?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jul 11, 2013, at 5:41 PM, "Rudolph, Douglas"  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Sarah i think its varizon wireless who has it   Canadian providers are 
>>> imolamenting the software to allow hd  calls
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On 2013-07-11, at 2:49 PM, "Sarah k Alawami"  wrote:
>>> 
 I just heard the hd  voice call sample and it sounds almost like a 
 FaceTime call. We don't to my knowledge have anything like this in the us 
 but that would be nice.
 On Jul 8, 2013, at 4:51 AM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
 
> Could you send that to me if you do? I'd be interested to hear to see if 
> there were any differences.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jul 8, 2013, at 7:21 AM, Dane Trethowan  
> wrote:
> 
>> To be fair perhaps I should have used my Samsung Galaxy S3 to call my 
>> friend Gary, that would have taken quite a bit of confusion out of this 
>> discussion , so I'll do another test just to see if there's any 
>> noticeable differences.
>> 
>> 
>> On 08/07/2013, at 9:17 PM, Chris H  wrote:
>> 
>>> Ar I see. Cheers for the clarification. You did say it can be done on 
>>> other platforms as well but overlooked that.
>>> 
>>> On 08/07/2013 12:07, Dane Trethowan wrote:
 Interesting, if I always thought that Facetime was a completely Apple 
 protocol between Apple devices.
 
 Yes, I knew that Apple were putting in place a system which would use 
 Facetime over a Cell network in IOS7 but - as far as I knew - it had 
 nothing whatever to do with the HD Voice protocol that I ran a test 
 with today.
 
 The HD Voice protocol is not an Apple exclusive feature, Samsung S 
 Phones use it along with Nokia, other Google phones etc and the 
 technology was actually launched in Australia over 12 months ago 
 apparently - according to the stuff I've been checking out today.
 
 Making a HD Voice call is don in exactly the same way as you'd make an 
 ordinary phone call, you dial the number from the key pad, you take it 
 from your contacts, you tell Siri to "Call Dane Trethowan" etc.
 
 
 On 08/07/2013, at 8:56 PM, Chris H  wrote:
 
> Fyi it will be possible to make and receive hd voice calls thanks to 
> Facetime Audio introduced in iOs 7 and yes this is public knowledge 
> as it was announced at Wwdc and information should be available on 
> the Apple site.
> 
> On 08/07/2013 10:40, Josh Gregory wrote:
>> I don't know, but none in the United States where I live as far as I 
>> know. The only good way I know to somehow duplicate this here is via 
>> FaceTime.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jul 8, 2013, at 5:15 AM, Dane Trethowan 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm curious as to how many carriers support the HD Voice standard.
>>> 
>>> On 08/07/2013, at 6:43 PM, Josh Gregory  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 This is quite impressive if I do say so myself, thanks very much 
 for doing this.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 8, 2013, at 2:31 AM, Dane Trethowan 
  wrote:
 
> Hi!
> 
> Folks seem to have been rather curious as to the quality of the 
> HD Voice standard which is current on many models of modern Smart 
> Phone including the Apple iPhone 5 and the Samsung Galaxy "S" 
> range.
> 
> Gary Pearse and I conducted a short HD Voice Call which I make 
> available here for those who are interested in what HD Voice 
> sounds like.
> 
> Note that I used the actual Speakerphone of the iPhone 5 so - if 
> you use something like the Senheiser MM500 or MM550 headsets or 
> any compatible Bluetooth 4.0 Speakerphone unit such as the Braven 
> 650 then quality may sound better again.
> 
> If link doesn't work the first time then try again in a few 
> minutes, file may still be uploading to Dropbox.
> 
> 
> **
>>

Re: a Hd Voice Call Between 2 iPhone 5 Handsets

[Rudolph, Douglas]

Only the 5 has this ability in iOS devices

Sent from my iPhone

On 2013-07-11, at 4:01 PM, "Josh Gregory"  wrote:

> Well if Verizon has it I'll be in luck. Does it work on people that don't 
> have iPhone 5's?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jul 11, 2013, at 5:41 PM, "Rudolph, Douglas"  
> wrote:
> 
>> Sarah i think its varizon wireless who has it   Canadian providers are 
>> imolamenting the software to allow hd  calls
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 2013-07-11, at 2:49 PM, "Sarah k Alawami"  wrote:
>> 
>>> I just heard the hd  voice call sample and it sounds almost like a FaceTime 
>>> call. We don't to my knowledge have anything like this in the us but that 
>>> would be nice.
>>> On Jul 8, 2013, at 4:51 AM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>>> 
 Could you send that to me if you do? I'd be interested to hear to see if 
 there were any differences.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 8, 2013, at 7:21 AM, Dane Trethowan  
 wrote:
 
> To be fair perhaps I should have used my Samsung Galaxy S3 to call my 
> friend Gary, that would have taken quite a bit of confusion out of this 
> discussion , so I'll do another test just to see if there's any 
> noticeable differences.
> 
> 
> On 08/07/2013, at 9:17 PM, Chris H  wrote:
> 
>> Ar I see. Cheers for the clarification. You did say it can be done on 
>> other platforms as well but overlooked that.
>> 
>> On 08/07/2013 12:07, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>>> Interesting, if I always thought that Facetime was a completely Apple 
>>> protocol between Apple devices.
>>> 
>>> Yes, I knew that Apple were putting in place a system which would use 
>>> Facetime over a Cell network in IOS7 but - as far as I knew - it had 
>>> nothing whatever to do with the HD Voice protocol that I ran a test 
>>> with today.
>>> 
>>> The HD Voice protocol is not an Apple exclusive feature, Samsung S 
>>> Phones use it along with Nokia, other Google phones etc and the 
>>> technology was actually launched in Australia over 12 months ago 
>>> apparently - according to the stuff I've been checking out today.
>>> 
>>> Making a HD Voice call is don in exactly the same way as you'd make an 
>>> ordinary phone call, you dial the number from the key pad, you take it 
>>> from your contacts, you tell Siri to "Call Dane Trethowan" etc.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 08/07/2013, at 8:56 PM, Chris H  wrote:
>>> 
 Fyi it will be possible to make and receive hd voice calls thanks to 
 Facetime Audio introduced in iOs 7 and yes this is public knowledge as 
 it was announced at Wwdc and information should be available on the 
 Apple site.
 
 On 08/07/2013 10:40, Josh Gregory wrote:
> I don't know, but none in the United States where I live as far as I 
> know. The only good way I know to somehow duplicate this here is via 
> FaceTime.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jul 8, 2013, at 5:15 AM, Dane Trethowan  
> wrote:
> 
>> I'm curious as to how many carriers support the HD Voice standard.
>> 
>> On 08/07/2013, at 6:43 PM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>> 
>>> This is quite impressive if I do say so myself, thanks very much 
>>> for doing this.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Jul 8, 2013, at 2:31 AM, Dane Trethowan 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi!
 
 Folks seem to have been rather curious as to the quality of the HD 
 Voice standard which is current on many models of modern Smart 
 Phone including the Apple iPhone 5 and the Samsung Galaxy "S" 
 range.
 
 Gary Pearse and I conducted a short HD Voice Call which I make 
 available here for those who are interested in what HD Voice 
 sounds like.
 
 Note that I used the actual Speakerphone of the iPhone 5 so - if 
 you use something like the Senheiser MM500 or MM550 headsets or 
 any compatible Bluetooth 4.0 Speakerphone unit such as the Braven 
 650 then quality may sound better again.
 
 If link doesn't work the first time then try again in a few 
 minutes, file may still be uploading to Dropbox.
 
 
 **
 
 Dane Trethowan
 Skype: grtdane12
 Phone US (213) 438-9741
 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
 Mobile: +61400494862
 Fax +61397437954
 
 
 
 
 
 
 **

Re: A couple of internet questions

[Esther]

Hi Andy,

Why not use VO-U and set your rotor to "Links", then type in the first few 
letters of schedule ("s c h")?  That worked for me. I press return to go to the 
link, then either VO-Space or press the up and down arrow keys to activate my 
selection. Or, you can use item chooser menu (VO-I), type in "s c h", and do 
the same thing to navigate to the "Schedule" link on that page and select it.  
Remember, when you use the links chooser in the rotor or item chooser menu, and 
either press return or VO-Space on your selection, you only get taken to the 
position of that control. You still have to activate it.  And with item chooser 
menu you can parse out links by pausing between typing your search terms.  For 
example, you could quickly type "s c h" and then type "l i n" to find links 
that match "s c h", but you don't need to do this in this case.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On 11 Jul 2013, at 11:32, ANDY COLLINS wrote:

> Thanks Sarah - I'll try the vo f as an alternative search method. I'm still 
> struggling with the Internet on the Mac. I'm focussing mostly on the BBC here 
> in the UK, as that is where I do a lot of my catching up on radio I missed 
> during the week.
> 
> For example, on:
> 
> www.bbc.co.uk/4extra
> 
> I couldn't find the schedule link very easily, but I was using command f to 
> search for it. I also used the web rowter to try and find it in links or 
> headings, but it wasn't there, even though I know such a link exists as I've 
> used it for years on a Winndows machine.
> 
> After some good initial early progress, progress has slowed down a bit in my 
> Mac learning -
> 
> Andy
> - Original Message - From: "Sarah k Alawami" 
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 9:16 PM
> Subject: Re: A couple of internet questions
> 
> 
>> I can't help with the find command as I use vo f to do my search.  then vo g 
>> and vo shift g to look. but I can say this.
>> 
>> Just look for the sign in link or log in link if you loved out or signed out.
>> 
>> Take care.
>> On Jul 11, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Andy Collins  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all -
>>> 
>>> If I use command f for find, when on a webpage, I never seem to get any 
>>> results, even though I know what I am looking for is there. I enter text, 
>>> and nothing happens, not by pressing vo space, or hitting enter. Anybody 
>>> give me some pointers to making the find/search option work? Also, when 
>>> logging out of some websites, especially banking ones, I'd like some spoken 
>>> confirmation that I had logged out successfully, can I do anything to get 
>>> this info spoken to me the way JAWS use to?
>>> 
>>> Thanks -
>>> 
>>> Andy

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Re: a Hd Voice Call Between 2 iPhone 5 Handsets

[Josh Gregory]

Well if Verizon has it I'll be in luck. Does it work on people that don't have 
iPhone 5's?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 11, 2013, at 5:41 PM, "Rudolph, Douglas"  
wrote:

> Sarah i think its varizon wireless who has it   Canadian providers are 
> imolamenting the software to allow hd  calls
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 2013-07-11, at 2:49 PM, "Sarah k Alawami"  wrote:
> 
>> I just heard the hd  voice call sample and it sounds almost like a FaceTime 
>> call. We don't to my knowledge have anything like this in the us but that 
>> would be nice.
>> On Jul 8, 2013, at 4:51 AM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>> 
>>> Could you send that to me if you do? I'd be interested to hear to see if 
>>> there were any differences.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Jul 8, 2013, at 7:21 AM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
>>> 
 To be fair perhaps I should have used my Samsung Galaxy S3 to call my 
 friend Gary, that would have taken quite a bit of confusion out of this 
 discussion , so I'll do another test just to see if there's any 
 noticeable differences.
 
 
 On 08/07/2013, at 9:17 PM, Chris H  wrote:
 
> Ar I see. Cheers for the clarification. You did say it can be done on 
> other platforms as well but overlooked that.
> 
> On 08/07/2013 12:07, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>> Interesting, if I always thought that Facetime was a completely Apple 
>> protocol between Apple devices.
>> 
>> Yes, I knew that Apple were putting in place a system which would use 
>> Facetime over a Cell network in IOS7 but - as far as I knew - it had 
>> nothing whatever to do with the HD Voice protocol that I ran a test with 
>> today.
>> 
>> The HD Voice protocol is not an Apple exclusive feature, Samsung S 
>> Phones use it along with Nokia, other Google phones etc and the 
>> technology was actually launched in Australia over 12 months ago 
>> apparently - according to the stuff I've been checking out today.
>> 
>> Making a HD Voice call is don in exactly the same way as you'd make an 
>> ordinary phone call, you dial the number from the key pad, you take it 
>> from your contacts, you tell Siri to "Call Dane Trethowan" etc.
>> 
>> 
>> On 08/07/2013, at 8:56 PM, Chris H  wrote:
>> 
>>> Fyi it will be possible to make and receive hd voice calls thanks to 
>>> Facetime Audio introduced in iOs 7 and yes this is public knowledge as 
>>> it was announced at Wwdc and information should be available on the 
>>> Apple site.
>>> 
>>> On 08/07/2013 10:40, Josh Gregory wrote:
 I don't know, but none in the United States where I live as far as I 
 know. The only good way I know to somehow duplicate this here is via 
 FaceTime.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 8, 2013, at 5:15 AM, Dane Trethowan  
 wrote:
 
> I'm curious as to how many carriers support the HD Voice standard.
> 
> On 08/07/2013, at 6:43 PM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
> 
>> This is quite impressive if I do say so myself, thanks very much for 
>> doing this.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jul 8, 2013, at 2:31 AM, Dane Trethowan 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> 
>>> Folks seem to have been rather curious as to the quality of the HD 
>>> Voice standard which is current on many models of modern Smart 
>>> Phone including the Apple iPhone 5 and the Samsung Galaxy "S" range.
>>> 
>>> Gary Pearse and I conducted a short HD Voice Call which I make 
>>> available here for those who are interested in what HD Voice sounds 
>>> like.
>>> 
>>> Note that I used the actual Speakerphone of the iPhone 5 so - if 
>>> you use something like the Senheiser MM500 or MM550 headsets or any 
>>> compatible Bluetooth 4.0 Speakerphone unit such as the Braven 650 
>>> then quality may sound better again.
>>> 
>>> If link doesn't work the first time then try again in a few 
>>> minutes, file may still be uploading to Dropbox.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> **
>>> 
>>> Dane Trethowan
>>> Skype: grtdane12
>>> Phone US (213) 438-9741
>>> Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
>>> Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
>>> Mobile: +61400494862
>>> Fax +61397437954
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> **
>>> 
>>> Dane Trethowan
>>> Skype: grtdane12
>>> Phone US (213) 438-9741
>>> Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
>>> Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
>>> Mobile: +61400494862
>>> Fax +61397437954
>>> 
>>> 

RE: Anyone a DeafBlind Mac user?

[David Griffith]

I certainly would not underestimate the learning curve. I have had my iMac
for well over a year and whilst I am still learning I am not yet as
proficient as I am on a windows machine. For example I still find iTunes a
confusing nightmare to handle and as soon as I start to get to grips with it
changes again. VLC is much easier though. 
I think out of the uses you mention mail is the most straightforward . Some
aspects of Mail are more intuitive and straightforward, especially with
attaching files but you will need, even with Mail, to get your head around
the concepts of interaction and uninteraction if you are to get anywhere
with managing or reading the headers in an email message.
 There is, in my view,  a definite learning curve with browsing the web on
Safari and you should not just expect easy replication of existing windows
skills. Bookmark management is done completely differently as is managing
the download of files. Selecting and copying text, whilst possible is less
straightforward than on a Windows machine. As against that if you can find
reader pages Safari can provide a far smoother reading experience and once
learnt is far easier than ploughing through unnecessary garbage on a page.

The OS is, in my view,, superior to Windows  but again represents a learning
curve as things are done differently.  Here again interaction is a necessary
skill though increasingly the use of the tab key to automatically interact
and interact will help make things less confusing.

In short I would discourage any impression that there is a quick process
where e a person can pick up all the necessary Mac skills in a couple of
days.
There is also, as discussed on this list earlier this year a dearth of
information aimed specifically at the Visually Impaired user. There are lots
of introductions to Voiceover and the David Woodbridge podcasts are probably
the best of the podcast resources but there is not the depth of material for
example for Office based applications like Pages, Keynote, Numbers or
Tables.

David Griffith





-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Jonathan Tyrer
Sent: 11 July 2013 18:44
To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Anyone a DeafBlind Mac user?

Hi

thanks for getting back to me.

I need a very rough idea of how long it will take to learn to use the Mac
for general OS stuff, Mail, Safari and basic Pages.

I have two people to quote for, so a very general idea is all I need.

Thanks.

Jonathan

On 11/07/2013, David Griffith  wrote:
> I am deaf and blind. What is the issue?
>
> David Griffith
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net 
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Jonathan Tyrer
> Sent: 11 July 2013 17:16
> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Anyone a DeafBlind Mac user?
>
> I could benefit from asking a few questions of a DeafBlind Mac user - 
> this is related to my job.
>
> If anyone can help, please get in tuch:
>
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Re: a Hd Voice Call Between 2 iPhone 5 Handsets

[Rudolph, Douglas]

Sarah i think its varizon wireless who has it   Canadian providers are 
imolamenting the software to allow hd  calls

Sent from my iPhone

On 2013-07-11, at 2:49 PM, "Sarah k Alawami"  wrote:

> I just heard the hd  voice call sample and it sounds almost like a FaceTime 
> call. We don't to my knowledge have anything like this in the us but that 
> would be nice.
> On Jul 8, 2013, at 4:51 AM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
> 
>> Could you send that to me if you do? I'd be interested to hear to see if 
>> there were any differences.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jul 8, 2013, at 7:21 AM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
>> 
>>> To be fair perhaps I should have used my Samsung Galaxy S3 to call my 
>>> friend Gary, that would have taken quite a bit of confusion out of this 
>>> discussion , so I'll do another test just to see if there's any 
>>> noticeable differences.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 08/07/2013, at 9:17 PM, Chris H  wrote:
>>> 
 Ar I see. Cheers for the clarification. You did say it can be done on 
 other platforms as well but overlooked that.
 
 On 08/07/2013 12:07, Dane Trethowan wrote:
> Interesting, if I always thought that Facetime was a completely Apple 
> protocol between Apple devices.
> 
> Yes, I knew that Apple were putting in place a system which would use 
> Facetime over a Cell network in IOS7 but - as far as I knew - it had 
> nothing whatever to do with the HD Voice protocol that I ran a test with 
> today.
> 
> The HD Voice protocol is not an Apple exclusive feature, Samsung S Phones 
> use it along with Nokia, other Google phones etc and the technology was 
> actually launched in Australia over 12 months ago apparently - according 
> to the stuff I've been checking out today.
> 
> Making a HD Voice call is don in exactly the same way as you'd make an 
> ordinary phone call, you dial the number from the key pad, you take it 
> from your contacts, you tell Siri to "Call Dane Trethowan" etc.
> 
> 
> On 08/07/2013, at 8:56 PM, Chris H  wrote:
> 
>> Fyi it will be possible to make and receive hd voice calls thanks to 
>> Facetime Audio introduced in iOs 7 and yes this is public knowledge as 
>> it was announced at Wwdc and information should be available on the 
>> Apple site.
>> 
>> On 08/07/2013 10:40, Josh Gregory wrote:
>>> I don't know, but none in the United States where I live as far as I 
>>> know. The only good way I know to somehow duplicate this here is via 
>>> FaceTime.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Jul 8, 2013, at 5:15 AM, Dane Trethowan  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 I'm curious as to how many carriers support the HD Voice standard.
 
 On 08/07/2013, at 6:43 PM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
 
> This is quite impressive if I do say so myself, thanks very much for 
> doing this.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jul 8, 2013, at 2:31 AM, Dane Trethowan  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi!
>> 
>> Folks seem to have been rather curious as to the quality of the HD 
>> Voice standard which is current on many models of modern Smart Phone 
>> including the Apple iPhone 5 and the Samsung Galaxy "S" range.
>> 
>> Gary Pearse and I conducted a short HD Voice Call which I make 
>> available here for those who are interested in what HD Voice sounds 
>> like.
>> 
>> Note that I used the actual Speakerphone of the iPhone 5 so - if you 
>> use something like the Senheiser MM500 or MM550 headsets or any 
>> compatible Bluetooth 4.0 Speakerphone unit such as the Braven 650 
>> then quality may sound better again.
>> 
>> If link doesn't work the first time then try again in a few minutes, 
>> file may still be uploading to Dropbox.
>> 
>> 
>> **
>> 
>> Dane Trethowan
>> Skype: grtdane12
>> Phone US (213) 438-9741
>> Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
>> Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
>> Mobile: +61400494862
>> Fax +61397437954
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
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resizing the boot partition in Mountain lion

[Dónal Fitzpatrick]

Evening all,

Well I think lots and lots of very unexpected sun here in Ireland has gone to 
my head but I've done something dumb.

I was going to install 10.9 on my macbook pro so I created a second partition.  
Then I decided not to so I erased that partition again.  I now want to increase 
the size of my primary partition to fill the entire size of the disk.  Can it 
be done easily?  I have 100GB just sitting there and I'd like to get it back.

Of course I should add that I can do this using an external drive but I'd 
rather not if I don't have to.

Thank much,

Dónal.
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Re: A couple of internet questions

[ANDY COLLINS]

Thanks Sarah - I'll try the vo f as an alternative search method. I'm still 
struggling with the Internet on the Mac. I'm focussing mostly on the BBC 
here in the UK, as that is where I do a lot of my catching up on radio I 
missed during the week.


For example, on:

www.bbc.co.uk/4extra

I couldn't find the schedule link very easily, but I was using command f to 
search for it. I also used the web rowter to try and find it in links or 
headings, but it wasn't there, even though I know such a link exists as I've 
used it for years on a Winndows machine.


After some good initial early progress, progress has slowed down a bit in my 
Mac learning -


Andy
- Original Message - 
From: "Sarah k Alawami" 

To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 9:16 PM
Subject: Re: A couple of internet questions


I can't help with the find command as I use vo f to do my search.  then vo 
g and vo shift g to look. but I can say this.


Just look for the sign in link or log in link if you loved out or signed 
out.


Take care.
On Jul 11, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Andy Collins  
wrote:



Hi all -

If I use command f for find, when on a webpage, I never seem to get any 
results, even though I know what I am looking for is there. I enter text, 
and nothing happens, not by pressing vo space, or hitting enter. Anybody 
give me some pointers to making the find/search option work? Also, when 
logging out of some websites, especially banking ones, I'd like some 
spoken confirmation that I had logged out successfully, can I do anything 
to get this info spoken to me the way JAWS use to?


Thanks -

Andy
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Re: Anyone a DeafBlind Mac user?

[John Gallagher]

Hi there yes he is but he has a cocklier implant and can hear the 
speech I am not sure if he uses braille though.

next week I will give braille a try with my braille pen.
At 19:06 11/07/2013, you wrote:

Is he Blind to? I need help with using the Mac just with Braille.

JT

On 11/07/2013, john gallagher  wrote:
> hi john my friend hear in leeds in the uk is totally deaf and is
> a power user.
>
> he is called mike gerwat and his email is
> mikeddger...@gmail.com
>
>  - Original Message -
> From: Jonathan Tyrer  To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility"  Date sent: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 17:16:08 +0100
> Subject: Anyone a DeafBlind Mac user?
>
> I could benefit from asking a few questions of a DeafBlind Mac
> user -
> this is related to my job.
>
> If anyone can help, please get in tuch:
>
> jonathan.ty...@gmail.com
>
> Thanks.
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Re: a Hd Voice Call Between 2 iPhone 5 Handsets

[Sarah k Alawami]

I just heard the hd  voice call sample and it sounds almost like a FaceTime 
call. We don't to my knowledge have anything like this in the us but that would 
be nice.
On Jul 8, 2013, at 4:51 AM, Josh Gregory  wrote:

> Could you send that to me if you do? I'd be interested to hear to see if 
> there were any differences.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jul 8, 2013, at 7:21 AM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
> 
>> To be fair perhaps I should have used my Samsung Galaxy S3 to call my friend 
>> Gary, that would have taken quite a bit of confusion out of this discussion 
>> , so I'll do another test just to see if there's any noticeable 
>> differences.
>> 
>> 
>> On 08/07/2013, at 9:17 PM, Chris H  wrote:
>> 
>>> Ar I see. Cheers for the clarification. You did say it can be done on other 
>>> platforms as well but overlooked that.
>>> 
>>> On 08/07/2013 12:07, Dane Trethowan wrote:
 Interesting, if I always thought that Facetime was a completely Apple 
 protocol between Apple devices.
 
 Yes, I knew that Apple were putting in place a system which would use 
 Facetime over a Cell network in IOS7 but - as far as I knew - it had 
 nothing whatever to do with the HD Voice protocol that I ran a test with 
 today.
 
 The HD Voice protocol is not an Apple exclusive feature, Samsung S Phones 
 use it along with Nokia, other Google phones etc and the technology was 
 actually launched in Australia over 12 months ago apparently - according 
 to the stuff I've been checking out today.
 
 Making a HD Voice call is don in exactly the same way as you'd make an 
 ordinary phone call, you dial the number from the key pad, you take it 
 from your contacts, you tell Siri to "Call Dane Trethowan" etc.
 
 
 On 08/07/2013, at 8:56 PM, Chris H  wrote:
 
> Fyi it will be possible to make and receive hd voice calls thanks to 
> Facetime Audio introduced in iOs 7 and yes this is public knowledge as it 
> was announced at Wwdc and information should be available on the Apple 
> site.
> 
> On 08/07/2013 10:40, Josh Gregory wrote:
>> I don't know, but none in the United States where I live as far as I 
>> know. The only good way I know to somehow duplicate this here is via 
>> FaceTime.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jul 8, 2013, at 5:15 AM, Dane Trethowan  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm curious as to how many carriers support the HD Voice standard.
>>> 
>>> On 08/07/2013, at 6:43 PM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>>> 
 This is quite impressive if I do say so myself, thanks very much for 
 doing this.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 8, 2013, at 2:31 AM, Dane Trethowan  
 wrote:
 
> Hi!
> 
> Folks seem to have been rather curious as to the quality of the HD 
> Voice standard which is current on many models of modern Smart Phone 
> including the Apple iPhone 5 and the Samsung Galaxy "S" range.
> 
> Gary Pearse and I conducted a short HD Voice Call which I make 
> available here for those who are interested in what HD Voice sounds 
> like.
> 
> Note that I used the actual Speakerphone of the iPhone 5 so - if you 
> use something like the Senheiser MM500 or MM550 headsets or any 
> compatible Bluetooth 4.0 Speakerphone unit such as the Braven 650 
> then quality may sound better again.
> 
> If link doesn't work the first time then try again in a few minutes, 
> file may still be uploading to Dropbox.
> 
> 
> **
> 
> Dane Trethowan
> Skype: grtdane12
> Phone US (213) 438-9741
> Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
> Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
> Mobile: +61400494862
> Fax +61397437954
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> **
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> Dane Trethowan
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Re: A couple of internet questions

[Sarah k Alawami]

I can't help with the find command as I use vo f to do my search.  then vo g 
and vo shift g to look. but I can say this.

Just look for the sign in link or log in link if you loved out or signed out. 

Take care.
On Jul 11, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Andy Collins  wrote:

> Hi all -
> 
> If I use command f for find, when on a webpage, I never seem to get any 
> results, even though I know what I am looking for is there. I enter text, and 
> nothing happens, not by pressing vo space, or hitting enter. Anybody give me 
> some pointers to making the find/search option work? Also, when logging out 
> of some websites, especially banking ones, I'd like some spoken confirmation 
> that I had logged out successfully, can I do anything to get this info spoken 
> to me the way JAWS use to?
> 
> Thanks -
> 
> Andy
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A couple of internet questions

[Andy Collins]

Hi all -

If I use command f for find, when on a webpage, I never seem to get any 
results, even though I know what I am looking for is there. I enter text, and 
nothing happens, not by pressing vo space, or hitting enter. Anybody give me 
some pointers to making the find/search option work? Also, when logging out of 
some websites, especially banking ones, I'd like some spoken confirmation that 
I had logged out successfully, can I do anything to get this info spoken to me 
the way JAWS use to?

Thanks -

Andy
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Re: So How Many Airplay Devices Do You Want?

[Dane Trethowan]

Yes, I had heard of those but have not yet heard them so thanks for the tip, 
I'll do further investigations - we all want value for our money . -.


Sent from Dane's iPhone +613400494862


On 12/07/2013, at 4:45 AM, Stuart Young  wrote:

> Hi dane have you tryed the air play music systems from bowers and wilkins 
> such as the a7 they are ment to sound better than bose.
> Regards
> Stuart
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 11 Jul 2013, at 19:20, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
> 
>> Hi!
>> 
>> Just taken a look on eBay, I searched for "Airplay" and was amazed at just 
>> how many different Airplay capable docks, systems and portable units are out 
>> there.
>> 
>> I found 264 different items which ranged from small nice sounding portables 
>> to surround-sound systems to digital radios which contained the Airplay 
>> functionality.
>> 
>> I'm looking to purchase a new "Airplay" compatible system and as it stands 
>> I'm favoring the Bose Sound Link Airplay system, I have a Bose Wave II radio 
>> in the house so I guess I have something to go on with regard to what the 
>> Soundlink Air will sound like - if people haven't heard Bose then I would 
>> suggest that perhaps they take some time to hear some Bose equipment for 
>> themselves,the smaller Wave systems etc sound incredible but I'm rambling -.
>> 
>> 2  nice things struck me about the Bose Soundlin Air, price is very 
>> competitive and the unit can be run on either AC or optional rechargeable 
>> batteries, the Bose is the first Airplay compatible unit I've heard of which 
>> offers portable battery operation.
>> 
>> I'll keep the list informed of my final purchase of Airplay equipment but 
>> before I do close this message I would like to heap praise on the former 
>> Airplay system I had which was a JBL Onbeat Air. This unit isn't avaialble 
>> any longer it seems, the system had heaps to offer such as an adjustable 
>> iPod dock, easy to setup Airplay function, good sound and small size which 
>> meant it could be fitted just about anywhere, if you're looking for 
>> something which is easy to use and small - and if you can purchase a JBL 
>> Onbeat Air - then grab it!
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: So How Many Airplay Devices Do You Want?

[Stuart Young]

Hi dane have you tryed the air play music systems from bowers and wilkins such 
as the a7 they are ment to sound better than bose.
Regards
Stuart

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On 11 Jul 2013, at 19:20, Dane Trethowan  wrote:

> Hi!
> 
> Just taken a look on eBay, I searched for "Airplay" and was amazed at just 
> how many different Airplay capable docks, systems and portable units are out 
> there.
> 
> I found 264 different items which ranged from small nice sounding portables 
> to surround-sound systems to digital radios which contained the Airplay 
> functionality.
> 
> I'm looking to purchase a new "Airplay" compatible system and as it stands 
> I'm favoring the Bose Sound Link Airplay system, I have a Bose Wave II radio 
> in the house so I guess I have something to go on with regard to what the 
> Soundlink Air will sound like - if people haven't heard Bose then I would 
> suggest that perhaps they take some time to hear some Bose equipment for 
> themselves,the smaller Wave systems etc sound incredible but I'm rambling -.
> 
> 2  nice things struck me about the Bose Soundlin Air, price is very 
> competitive and the unit can be run on either AC or optional rechargeable 
> batteries, the Bose is the first Airplay compatible unit I've heard of which 
> offers portable battery operation.
> 
> I'll keep the list informed of my final purchase of Airplay equipment but 
> before I do close this message I would like to heap praise on the former 
> Airplay system I had which was a JBL Onbeat Air. This unit isn't avaialble 
> any longer it seems, the system had heaps to offer such as an adjustable iPod 
> dock, easy to setup Airplay function, good sound and small size which meant 
> it could be fitted just about anywhere, if you're looking for something which 
> is easy to use and small - and if you can purchase a JBL Onbeat Air - then 
> grab it!
> 
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Re: Anyone a DeafBlind Mac user?

[Jonathan Tyrer]

Hi

thanks for getting back to me.

I need a very rough idea of how long it will take to learn to use the
Mac for general OS stuff, Mail, Safari and basic Pages.

I have two people to quote for, so a very general idea is all I need.

Thanks.

Jonathan

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Re: The Distance Between 2 Points

[Sarah k Alawami]

Yeah go to more after you start navigation and the option should be right 
there. If not it will be in the main nav window..
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> 
> Is there any way you can have Navigon speak the distance in miles or 
> kilometers between 2 points - say my home and my Mum's home -.
> 
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Re: The Distance Between 2 Points

[Dane Trethowan]

Yeah, I thought it was something obvious like that as I thought I'd seen it 
before but didn't when I looked again a few minutes ago, mustn't have been 
looking hard enough .


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On 12/07/2013, at 4:20 AM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

> Yeah go to more after you start navigation and the option should be right 
> there. If not it will be in the main nav window..
> On Jul 11, 2013, at 10:47 AM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
> 
>> Hi!
>> 
>> I'm off to see Mum in Merimbula this weekend and I've found Navigon to be a 
>> most handy tool when taking previous trips there but I do have 1 question 
>> which I've been wondering about for quite some time.
>> 
>> Is there any way you can have Navigon speak the distance in miles or 
>> kilometers between 2 points - say my home and my Mum's home -.
>> 
>> If Navigon can't do this then are there any solutions which will?
>> 
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So How Many Airplay Devices Do You Want?

[Dane Trethowan]

Hi!

Just taken a look on eBay, I searched for "Airplay" and was amazed at just how 
many different Airplay capable docks, systems and portable units are out there.

I found 264 different items which ranged from small nice sounding portables to 
surround-sound systems to digital radios which contained the Airplay 
functionality.

I'm looking to purchase a new "Airplay" compatible system and as it stands I'm 
favoring the Bose Sound Link Airplay system, I have a Bose Wave II radio in the 
house so I guess I have something to go on with regard to what the Soundlink 
Air will sound like - if people haven't heard Bose then I would suggest that 
perhaps they take some time to hear some Bose equipment for themselves,the 
smaller Wave systems etc sound incredible but I'm rambling -.

2  nice things struck me about the Bose Soundlin Air, price is very competitive 
and the unit can be run on either AC or optional rechargeable batteries, the 
Bose is the first Airplay compatible unit I've heard of which offers portable 
battery operation.

I'll keep the list informed of my final purchase of Airplay equipment but 
before I do close this message I would like to heap praise on the former 
Airplay system I had which was a JBL Onbeat Air. This unit isn't avaialble any 
longer it seems, the system had heaps to offer such as an adjustable iPod dock, 
easy to setup Airplay function, good sound and small size which meant it could 
be fitted just about anywhere, if you're looking for something which is easy to 
use and small - and if you can purchase a JBL Onbeat Air - then grab it!



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Re: Anyone a DeafBlind Mac user?

[Jonathan Tyrer]

Is he Blind to? I need help with using the Mac just with Braille.

JT

On 11/07/2013, john gallagher  wrote:
> hi john my friend hear in leeds in the uk is totally deaf and is
> a power user.
>
> he is called mike gerwat and his email is
> mikeddger...@gmail.com
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>  - Original Message -
> From: Jonathan Tyrer  To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility"  Date sent: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 17:16:08 +0100
> Subject: Anyone a DeafBlind Mac user?
>
> I could benefit from asking a few questions of a DeafBlind Mac
> user -
> this is related to my job.
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>
> jonathan.ty...@gmail.com
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re: Anyone a DeafBlind Mac user?

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hi john my friend hear in leeds in the uk is totally deaf and is 
a power user.


he is called mike gerwat and his email is
mikeddger...@gmail.com 


- Original Message -
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this is related to my job.

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The Distance Between 2 Points

[Dane Trethowan]

Hi!

I'm off to see Mum in Merimbula this weekend and I've found Navigon to be a 
most handy tool when taking previous trips there but I do have 1 question which 
I've been wondering about for quite some time.

Is there any way you can have Navigon speak the distance in miles or kilometers 
between 2 points - say my home and my Mum's home -.

If Navigon can't do this then are there any solutions which will?


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RE: Anyone a DeafBlind Mac user?

[David Griffith]

I am deaf and blind. What is the issue?

David Griffith 

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[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Jonathan Tyrer
Sent: 11 July 2013 17:16
To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Anyone a DeafBlind Mac user?

I could benefit from asking a few questions of a DeafBlind Mac user - this
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If anyone can help, please get in tuch:

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Anyone a DeafBlind Mac user?

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I could benefit from asking a few questions of a DeafBlind Mac user -
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Re: is there any bible apps for iphone that work with voice over was Re: Accessible Bible program for the Mac.

[Devin Prater]

The bible app, just called "bible" in the app store, should work. The only 
annoyance I have with it is it doesn't show the commentaries and footnotes and 
such to voiceover. The element is called just "#", and activating it does 
nothing.
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On Jul 11, 2013, at 9:53 AM, krystal watson  
wrote:

> hi is there any apps that work with voice over that read the new testament 
> bible in audio or text that voice over can read 
> krystal watson
> krystalwat...@bluebottle.com
> 
> 
> 
> On 08/07/2013, at 8:36 PM, Jim Noseworthy 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Folks:
>> 
>> I've downloaded and installed the "Eloquent" bible software but I can't 
>> figure out how to download the modules. Any help would be appreciated all 
>> over the place.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 7/7/2013 8:48 PM, Devin Prater wrote:
>>> Yes. Its called Eloquence. Pretty good for public domain stuff.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPod
>>> 
>>> On Jul 7, 2013, at 6:46 PM, Chris Gilland  wrote:
>>> 
 You might want to check out Macsword I think it's called.  Actually, I 
 think in the latest version, they renamed it to elequent or something 
 along that line.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: "Jim Noseworthy" 
 
 To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
 Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 6:37 PM
 Subject: Accessible Bible program for the Mac.
 
 
> Hi Gang:
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> I am looking for an accessible Bible program for the Mac.  Is there such 
> an animal out there?
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Re: Re-installing an iPhone App

[Josh Gregory]

If you know how to delete it, do that, and then reinstall by redownloading it.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 11, 2013, at 10:54 AM, Paul Hopewell  wrote:

> Hello, 
> One of the frequently used Apps on my iPhone 3GS has stopped working, 
> probably due to corrupt data associated with the App. How can I re-install a 
> new version of this App in the hope that it will reset its data and then work 
> normally. 
> Many thanks. 
> 
> Paul Hopewellwi wiht the . How can I download and re-install donwload 
> Hoow 
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Re-installing an iPhone App

[Paul Hopewell]

Hello, 
One of the frequently used Apps on my iPhone 3GS has stopped working, probably 
due to corrupt data associated with the App. How can I re-install a new version 
of this App in the hope that it will reset its data and then work normally. 
Many thanks. 

Paul Hopewellwi wiht the . How can I download and re-install donwload Hoow 
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is there any bible apps for iphone that work with voice over was Re: Accessible Bible program for the Mac.

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hi is there any apps that work with voice over that read the new testament 
bible in audio or text that voice over can read 
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On 08/07/2013, at 8:36 PM, Jim Noseworthy  
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> Hi Folks:
> 
> I've downloaded and installed the "Eloquent" bible software but I can't 
> figure out how to download the modules. Any help would be appreciated all 
> over the place.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> On 7/7/2013 8:48 PM, Devin Prater wrote:
>> Yes. Its called Eloquence. Pretty good for public domain stuff.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPod
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>> On Jul 7, 2013, at 6:46 PM, Chris Gilland  wrote:
>> 
>>> You might want to check out Macsword I think it's called.  Actually, I 
>>> think in the latest version, they renamed it to elequent or something along 
>>> that line.
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Jim Noseworthy" 
>>> 
>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 6:37 PM
>>> Subject: Accessible Bible program for the Mac.
>>> 
>>> 
 Hi Gang:
 
 I am looking for an accessible Bible program for the Mac.  Is there such 
 an animal out there?
 
 Thanks all over the place.
 
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Re: chess on the mac

[John Gallagher]

Hi there yes I got the one but I can beat it easerley though you have 
to give it a real pluss for accessability thanks  though.

At 12:57 11/07/2013, you wrote:

there is  a billt in chess game on  the  mac in  your Applications file
On 11 Jul 2013, at 12:49, John Gallagher  wrote:

> Hi  all,
> Wonder if anyone uses a strong chess playing program on the mac.
> the normal chess programs  on the windows computers are just 
about accessible in the way you can get the programs to speak ot the moves.

> I use fritz hiarcs and shredder.
> there is a brilliant program called hiarcs chess explorer but it 
has no access on a mac or windows pc.
> last year in india where we played in the olympiad I used my 
netbook to look at the chess databases for our study.
> I really love my mac learning about safari I have better acces 
with my bank site. with window eyes I struggle to loggin but on a 
mac I managed it.
> I get a bit mixed up when I should interact with some thing but I 
really feel I am winning.

> thanks for any replies.
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Re: chess on the mac

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there is  a billt in chess game on  the  mac in  your Applications file
On 11 Jul 2013, at 12:49, John Gallagher  wrote:

> Hi  all,
> Wonder if anyone uses a strong chess playing program on the mac.
> the normal chess programs  on the windows computers are just about accessible 
> in the way you can get the programs to speak ot the moves.
> I use fritz hiarcs and shredder.
> there is a brilliant program called hiarcs chess explorer but it has no 
> access on a mac or windows pc.
> last year in india where we played in the olympiad I used my netbook to look 
> at the chess databases for our study.
> I really love my mac learning about safari I have better acces with my bank 
> site. with window eyes I struggle to loggin but on a mac I managed it.
> I get a bit mixed up when I should interact with some thing but I really feel 
> I am winning.
> thanks for any replies.
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chess on the mac

[John Gallagher]

Hi  all,
Wonder if anyone uses a strong chess playing program on the mac.
the normal chess programs  on the windows computers are just about 
accessible in the way you can get the programs to speak ot the moves.

I use fritz hiarcs and shredder.
there is a brilliant program called hiarcs chess explorer but it has 
no access on a mac or windows pc.
last year in india where we played in the olympiad I used my netbook 
to look at the chess databases for our study.
I really love my mac learning about safari I have better acces with 
my bank site. with window eyes I struggle to loggin but on a mac I managed it.
I get a bit mixed up when I should interact with some thing but I 
really feel I am winning.

thanks for any replies.

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Re: Restoreing email account

[Sarah k Alawami]

You should be able to.  but being I have all of my info in an incripted image I 
really so far don't have to worry about that.

Take care.
On Jul 11, 2013, at 12:06 AM, George Cham  wrote:

> I was having problems receiving messages on my Mac, so I deleted the email 
> account. 
> Now I can't remember my account settings. 
> Can I restore them from time machine? 
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> Typed with Fleksy
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I was having problems receiving messages on my Mac, so I deleted the email 
account. 
Now I can't remember my account settings. 
Can I restore them from time machine? 

Typed with Fleksy
reply://george.c...@outlook.com




George,

  Sent from my iPad
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