Re: wordpress blogging on the mac
Hi Sarah and all, Am 29.08.2013 um 15:27 schrieb Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com: You can do a lot with mars edit. such as raging, category, links, headings, lists, what ever you want. MarsEdit is really cool. I've downloaded the Demo and played a bit around with it and after a day and writing two articles for my blog I bought it :-) in the app store :-). But I have one question regarding pending posts: Is it possible to write a post today and publish it for example tomarow automaticly? Is this possible with MarsEdit? Cheers, Christian -- Christian Schoepplein - chris (at) schoeppi.net - http://www.schoeppi.net/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: wordpress blogging on the mac
Yeah. Just Hit I think it's cmd option l and adjust the date. Good luck. On Aug 31, 2013, at 8:54 AM, Christian Schoepplein ch...@schoeppi.net wrote: Hi Sarah and all, Am 29.08.2013 um 15:27 schrieb Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com: You can do a lot with mars edit. such as raging, category, links, headings, lists, what ever you want. MarsEdit is really cool. I've downloaded the Demo and played a bit around with it and after a day and writing two articles for my blog I bought it :-) in the app store :-). But I have one question regarding pending posts: Is it possible to write a post today and publish it for example tomarow automaticly? Is this possible with MarsEdit? Cheers, Christian -- Christian Schoepplein - chris (at) schoeppi.net - http://www.schoeppi.net/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Onyx
Hello everyone has anyone tried or does anyone use Onyx? I think this is a fantastic utility for your mac. It is a maintenance and cleaning tool as well as offering other functions. Downloaded and ran it today and my 2011 Macbook Pro 13 running Mountain Lion is now faster. Go search for it via Google as it's not in the Mac App Store. It's by Titanium Software. Kind regards Chris. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Onyx
Hi Chris and Others, With regard to your suggestion of using OnyX, I'll except from an old trouble-shooting list post of mine back in June: begin quote Do you or your girl friend run any maintenance software on your computer? There are good programs in both the paid and free categories that will check for these kinds of conditions. OnyX is a free app. Cocktail and Tinkertool System are shareware apps (~$14.00). They can clean out caches and log files. You can find these applications at the Macupdate site, which will also give links to the developer's site: • OnyX for Mac https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/111582/onyx * Cocktail https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/10909/cocktail • TinkerTool System https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/13662/tinkertool-system end quote I'll add that the regular TinkerTool app allows you to configure preferences (e.g. show hidden files, and make other option changes). I list the Macupdate site web pages because it is often easier to find links to the correct version of the app here, as well as read the standard summary format for what an application does, whether it is freeware or shareware, when it was last updated, etc. In the case of OnyX, you should download the correct version for you operating system (if you are not running Mountain Lion). Here's the MacUpdate site link to TinkerTool (for preference configuration rather than maintenance checking): • TinkerTool https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/5721/tinkertool HTH. Cheers, Esther On Aug 31, 2013, at 7:49 AM, Chris H wrote: Hello everyone has anyone tried or does anyone use Onyx? I think this is a fantastic utility for your mac. It is a maintenance and cleaning tool as well as offering other functions. Downloaded and ran it today and my 2011 Macbook Pro 13 running Mountain Lion is now faster. Go search for it via Google as it's not in the Mac App Store. It's by Titanium Software. Kind regards Chris. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Onyx
I love onyx and use it often. I did a podcast that is probably out of date by now, but remember to back up your system just in case something happens. I don't notice a speed increase for me but my system is so old it probably does not make a difference. lol! Hehaha. Take care and be blessed. On Aug 31, 2013, at 10:49 AM, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone has anyone tried or does anyone use Onyx? I think this is a fantastic utility for your mac. It is a maintenance and cleaning tool as well as offering other functions. Downloaded and ran it today and my 2011 Macbook Pro 13 running Mountain Lion is now faster. Go search for it via Google as it's not in the Mac App Store. It's by Titanium Software. Kind regards Chris. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Incredibly annoying, not to mention extremely buggy problem with Quicknav
OK, so normally, I don't know why, but I haven't really been a huge fan of Quicknav, but now, I'm really! not a fan. My ultimate goal was to turn on Quick nav globally throughout the system and use it instead of having to constantly hold my VO keys down. Before you say anything, I'm a Voiceover trainer, so yes, I obviously do know about VO+; to lock my keys. This isn't always a valuable sollution however, as this will then intercept regular alpha-numeric keys as Voiceover commands. Meaning, say I wanted to type a capital letter K. I hit shift+K, and Boom. I've just disabled/enabled my keyboard commander. Real nice! Not? I also understand that being I've got a macbook Pro, I could definitely use trackpad commander, but my hands are big enough that I probably would bump the thing almost constantly. Plus, I have very heavy fingers, and probably would exert too much pressure on the thing, thus accidentally literally clicking the thing, which of corse could give very undesirable results. I actually was having a fairly decent experience with Quicknav until I opened up Safari. What a disaster! First thing that I noticed was I have Safari set automatically to take me into Google upon launch. Well, by default on the Google web site, unless you change it, the Sweetspot is set to the google search text box. That's perfectly OK. That's normally in most cases exactly what I'd want. This way, I pop open Safari, and boom, I'm in the text box, and just start typing my query, then hit return. Well, I have also gone into the Voiceover utility and under commanders/quicknav, I set it up to use single letter navigation so that I'd not have to keep holding down my vo+command keys while jumping table by table, heading by heading, anker by anker, block text by block text, etc. Now, as long as quicknav is enabled within Safari, I can use those single letter keys. The only problem which is really pissing me off is that let's use Google just for example. Now, this happens pretty much on any web site I use, but for simplisity sake, I'm gonna use Google for this example. So, I have quicknav enabled as well as single letter navigation. I fire up Safari, and I'm popped immediately into the search box. So great! Let's say I want to now do a search for say… ACB Radio. Again, I know it's just ACBRadio.org, but again, this is simply for example purpose. So I start interacting with the text box, because if I don't, it will think that some of those letters should be intercepted as navigation single letter commands. So I hit my down and right arrow keys together, and start interacting. I then type in ACBRadio, and hit return. Now, I go to the top of the web site with fn+VO+left arrow. Remember, I'm on a macbook Pro, so I don't have a physical hom/end key, nor a num pad. Now, at the top of the page, not even focused anymore in the text box, as I moved focus away by doing the fn+vo+left arrow to jump to the top of the screen, now, if I simply hit the letter H, you'd think, that it would move me to the next heading on the page, right? Wrong, actually. What it's doing is to jump me back to the search box, I presume it's finding the next search box on the page, which in this case happens to be the search field, then, at the beginning of the box, it's interacting me with that text box without my will, and it's literally insertting that letter H into the box. If I then delete and backspace it out, then vo+right arrow away from the box, then try hitting H again, first being sure that quick nav is indeed enabled, which it is, then I get the same result. It jumps me back up to that text box, interacts, then types the letter H. This is incredibly buggy in my book! Oh, and as if that's not enough, here's another weird thing. With Quick nav on, and single letter nav on, if I type in my search query, then don't even vo+right arrow to the google search button, but instead just hit return, like I normally did with quick nav not enabled, it doesn't do a bloody thing! It just kind a sits there, and thinks about life. It doesn't go busy busy busy or anything of sort, thank God. Don't give it any ideas, LOL! but it doesn't proceed to the next page with my results. It's almost like it's not even clicking the search button at all, whenever I hit the return key. Very very very buggy in my view. I'm wonderring if anyone else on here's had or is having, for that mind, this issue, or moreover, is there maybe something that I'm missing? I'm definitely unaware of anything, but who knows. Here's to the incredibly! frustrated, Chris. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive:
Re: Incredibly annoying, not to mention extremely buggy problem with Quicknav
All I can say, is that I regularly encounter times when clicking a link on a webpage produces nothing at all, like you say, it just sits there on the link. VO says link pressed, but it doesn't activate it! - Andy On 31 Aug 2013, at 20:11, Chris Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: OK, so normally, I don't know why, but I haven't really been a huge fan of Quicknav, but now, I'm really! not a fan. My ultimate goal was to turn on Quick nav globally throughout the system and use it instead of having to constantly hold my VO keys down. Before you say anything, I'm a Voiceover trainer, so yes, I obviously do know about VO+; to lock my keys. This isn't always a valuable sollution however, as this will then intercept regular alpha-numeric keys as Voiceover commands. Meaning, say I wanted to type a capital letter K. I hit shift+K, and Boom. I've just disabled/enabled my keyboard commander. Real nice! Not? I also understand that being I've got a macbook Pro, I could definitely use trackpad commander, but my hands are big enough that I probably would bump the thing almost constantly. Plus, I have very heavy fingers, and probably would exert too much pressure on the thing, thus accidentally literally clicking the thing, which of corse could give very undesirable results. I actually was having a fairly decent experience with Quicknav until I opened up Safari. What a disaster! First thing that I noticed was I have Safari set automatically to take me into Google upon launch. Well, by default on the Google web site, unless you change it, the Sweetspot is set to the google search text box. That's perfectly OK. That's normally in most cases exactly what I'd want. This way, I pop open Safari, and boom, I'm in the text box, and just start typing my query, then hit return. Well, I have also gone into the Voiceover utility and under commanders/quicknav, I set it up to use single letter navigation so that I'd not have to keep holding down my vo+command keys while jumping table by table, heading by heading, anker by anker, block text by block text, etc. Now, as long as quicknav is enabled within Safari, I can use those single letter keys. The only problem which is really pissing me off is that let's use Google just for example. Now, this happens pretty much on any web site I use, but for simplisity sake, I'm gonna use Google for this example. So, I have quicknav enabled as well as single letter navigation. I fire up Safari, and I'm popped immediately into the search box. So great! Let's say I want to now do a search for say… ACB Radio. Again, I know it's just ACBRadio.org, but again, this is simply for example purpose. So I start interacting with the text box, because if I don't, it will think that some of those letters should be intercepted as navigation single letter commands. So I hit my down and right arrow keys together, and start interacting. I then type in ACBRadio, and hit return. Now, I go to the top of the web site with fn+VO+left arrow. Remember, I'm on a macbook Pro, so I don't have a physical hom/end key, nor a num pad. Now, at the top of the page, not even focused anymore in the text box, as I moved focus away by doing the fn+vo+left arrow to jump to the top of the screen, now, if I simply hit the letter H, you'd think, that it would move me to the next heading on the page, right? Wrong, actually. What it's doing is to jump me back to the search box, I presume it's finding the next search box on the page, which in this case happens to be the search field, then, at the beginning of the box, it's interacting me with that text box without my will, and it's literally insertting that letter H into the box. If I then delete and backspace it out, then vo+right arrow away from the box, then try hitting H again, first being sure that quick nav is indeed enabled, which it is, then I get the same result. It jumps me back up to that text box, interacts, then types the letter H. This is incredibly buggy in my book! Oh, and as if that's not enough, here's another weird thing. With Quick nav on, and single letter nav on, if I type in my search query, then don't even vo+right arrow to the google search button, but instead just hit return, like I normally did with quick nav not enabled, it doesn't do a bloody thing! It just kind a sits there, and thinks about life. It doesn't go busy busy busy or anything of sort, thank God. Don't give it any ideas, LOL! but it doesn't proceed to the next page with my results. It's almost like it's not even clicking the search button at all, whenever I hit the return key. Very very very buggy in my view. I'm wonderring if anyone else on here's had or is having, for that mind, this issue, or moreover, is there maybe something that I'm missing? I'm definitely unaware of anything, but who knows. Here's to the incredibly!
Re: Incredibly annoying, not to mention extremely buggy problem with Quicknav
It won't. not unless qn is off. Remember vo plus enter starts selecting stuff so that is I think a feature. Also, just turn an off and type in tot eh field, hit enter and turn qn on. Easy fix there and this is how I get around web pages like google. Take care and try turning qn off before typing in the search field. I don't think qun is meant to be used all the time. At least I have not found it used all the time. Good luck. On Aug 31, 2013, at 12:11 PM, Chris Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: OK, so normally, I don't know why, but I haven't really been a huge fan of Quicknav, but now, I'm really! not a fan. My ultimate goal was to turn on Quick nav globally throughout the system and use it instead of having to constantly hold my VO keys down. Before you say anything, I'm a Voiceover trainer, so yes, I obviously do know about VO+; to lock my keys. This isn't always a valuable sollution however, as this will then intercept regular alpha-numeric keys as Voiceover commands. Meaning, say I wanted to type a capital letter K. I hit shift+K, and Boom. I've just disabled/enabled my keyboard commander. Real nice! Not? I also understand that being I've got a macbook Pro, I could definitely use trackpad commander, but my hands are big enough that I probably would bump the thing almost constantly. Plus, I have very heavy fingers, and probably would exert too much pressure on the thing, thus accidentally literally clicking the thing, which of corse could give very undesirable results. I actually was having a fairly decent experience with Quicknav until I opened up Safari. What a disaster! First thing that I noticed was I have Safari set automatically to take me into Google upon launch. Well, by default on the Google web site, unless you change it, the Sweetspot is set to the google search text box. That's perfectly OK. That's normally in most cases exactly what I'd want. This way, I pop open Safari, and boom, I'm in the text box, and just start typing my query, then hit return. Well, I have also gone into the Voiceover utility and under commanders/quicknav, I set it up to use single letter navigation so that I'd not have to keep holding down my vo+command keys while jumping table by table, heading by heading, anker by anker, block text by block text, etc. Now, as long as quicknav is enabled within Safari, I can use those single letter keys. The only problem which is really pissing me off is that let's use Google just for example. Now, this happens pretty much on any web site I use, but for simplisity sake, I'm gonna use Google for this example. So, I have quicknav enabled as well as single letter navigation. I fire up Safari, and I'm popped immediately into the search box. So great! Let's say I want to now do a search for say… ACB Radio. Again, I know it's just ACBRadio.org, but again, this is simply for example purpose. So I start interacting with the text box, because if I don't, it will think that some of those letters should be intercepted as navigation single letter commands. So I hit my down and right arrow keys together, and start interacting. I then type in ACBRadio, and hit return. Now, I go to the top of the web site with fn+VO+left arrow. Remember, I'm on a macbook Pro, so I don't have a physical hom/end key, nor a num pad. Now, at the top of the page, not even focused anymore in the text box, as I moved focus away by doing the fn+vo+left arrow to jump to the top of the screen, now, if I simply hit the letter H, you'd think, that it would move me to the next heading on the page, right? Wrong, actually. What it's doing is to jump me back to the search box, I presume it's finding the next search box on the page, which in this case happens to be the search field, then, at the beginning of the box, it's interacting me with that text box without my will, and it's literally insertting that letter H into the box. If I then delete and backspace it out, then vo+right arrow away from the box, then try hitting H again, first being sure that quick nav is indeed enabled, which it is, then I get the same result. It jumps me back up to that text box, interacts, then types the letter H. This is incredibly buggy in my book! Oh, and as if that's not enough, here's another weird thing. With Quick nav on, and single letter nav on, if I type in my search query, then don't even vo+right arrow to the google search button, but instead just hit return, like I normally did with quick nav not enabled, it doesn't do a bloody thing! It just kind a sits there, and thinks about life. It doesn't go busy busy busy or anything of sort, thank God. Don't give it any ideas, LOL! but it doesn't proceed to the next page with my results. It's almost like it's not even clicking the search button at all, whenever I hit the return key. Very very very buggy in my view. I'm
Re: Incredibly annoying, not to mention extremely buggy problem with Quicknav
I have that issue to, but I just keep clicking the link, but when you let's say go from the item chooser and find the link you *have to* press the thing twice as the first press moves it to the link, the second time clicks the link, or what ever the item might be. Tc. On Aug 31, 2013, at 12:30 PM, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote: All I can say, is that I regularly encounter times when clicking a link on a webpage produces nothing at all, like you say, it just sits there on the link. VO says link pressed, but it doesn't activate it! - Andy On 31 Aug 2013, at 20:11, Chris Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: OK, so normally, I don't know why, but I haven't really been a huge fan of Quicknav, but now, I'm really! not a fan. My ultimate goal was to turn on Quick nav globally throughout the system and use it instead of having to constantly hold my VO keys down. Before you say anything, I'm a Voiceover trainer, so yes, I obviously do know about VO+; to lock my keys. This isn't always a valuable sollution however, as this will then intercept regular alpha-numeric keys as Voiceover commands. Meaning, say I wanted to type a capital letter K. I hit shift+K, and Boom. I've just disabled/enabled my keyboard commander. Real nice! Not? I also understand that being I've got a macbook Pro, I could definitely use trackpad commander, but my hands are big enough that I probably would bump the thing almost constantly. Plus, I have very heavy fingers, and probably would exert too much pressure on the thing, thus accidentally literally clicking the thing, which of corse could give very undesirable results. I actually was having a fairly decent experience with Quicknav until I opened up Safari. What a disaster! First thing that I noticed was I have Safari set automatically to take me into Google upon launch. Well, by default on the Google web site, unless you change it, the Sweetspot is set to the google search text box. That's perfectly OK. That's normally in most cases exactly what I'd want. This way, I pop open Safari, and boom, I'm in the text box, and just start typing my query, then hit return. Well, I have also gone into the Voiceover utility and under commanders/quicknav, I set it up to use single letter navigation so that I'd not have to keep holding down my vo+command keys while jumping table by table, heading by heading, anker by anker, block text by block text, etc. Now, as long as quicknav is enabled within Safari, I can use those single letter keys. The only problem which is really pissing me off is that let's use Google just for example. Now, this happens pretty much on any web site I use, but for simplisity sake, I'm gonna use Google for this example. So, I have quicknav enabled as well as single letter navigation. I fire up Safari, and I'm popped immediately into the search box. So great! Let's say I want to now do a search for say… ACB Radio. Again, I know it's just ACBRadio.org, but again, this is simply for example purpose. So I start interacting with the text box, because if I don't, it will think that some of those letters should be intercepted as navigation single letter commands. So I hit my down and right arrow keys together, and start interacting. I then type in ACBRadio, and hit return. Now, I go to the top of the web site with fn+VO+left arrow. Remember, I'm on a macbook Pro, so I don't have a physical hom/end key, nor a num pad. Now, at the top of the page, not even focused anymore in the text box, as I moved focus away by doing the fn+vo+left arrow to jump to the top of the screen, now, if I simply hit the letter H, you'd think, that it would move me to the next heading on the page, right? Wrong, actually. What it's doing is to jump me back to the search box, I presume it's finding the next search box on the page, which in this case happens to be the search field, then, at the beginning of the box, it's interacting me with that text box without my will, and it's literally insertting that letter H into the box. If I then delete and backspace it out, then vo+right arrow away from the box, then try hitting H again, first being sure that quick nav is indeed enabled, which it is, then I get the same result. It jumps me back up to that text box, interacts, then types the letter H. This is incredibly buggy in my book! Oh, and as if that's not enough, here's another weird thing. With Quick nav on, and single letter nav on, if I type in my search query, then don't even vo+right arrow to the google search button, but instead just hit return, like I normally did with quick nav not enabled, it doesn't do a bloody thing! It just kind a sits there, and thinks about life. It doesn't go busy busy busy or anything of sort, thank God. Don't give it any ideas, LOL! but it doesn't proceed to the next page with my results. It's
Item chooser and web pages [was Re: Incredibly annoying, not to mention extremely buggy problem with Quicknav]
Hi All, Just wanted to expand on Sarah's point about using item chooser menu on web pages: when you navigate with item chooser or links chooser menu on a web page, using VO-Space or pressing moves you to that location -- it does not activate a link. You might want to perform a selection that forces a file download (e.g. Option+Return (or Enter for those used to Windows)), or you might want to choose a particular option from the context menu (VO-Shift-M or Control+Click on the link), such as Download as, etc., instead of just activating the link. So if you need to activate a link, you issue a VO-Space or use your Trackpad to perform an action twice -- first to move to the location and next to activate the link. This is a feature and not a bug. And remember, that on both the Mac and on iOS devices, you want to turn QuickNav off before you type in text fields (for search, as Sarah also mentioned in her previous post.) Cheers, Esther On Aug 31, 2013, at 10:01 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote: I have that issue to, but I just keep clicking the link, but when you let's say go from the item chooser and find the link you *have to* press the thing twice as the first press moves it to the link, the second time clicks the link, or what ever the item might be. Tc. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Incredibly annoying, not to mention extremely buggy problem with Quicknav
Sarah - No matter how many times I click the link, it doesn't work, nor does using the item chooser, I've even interacted, brought the mouse pointer to the link with vo cmd f5, and done a single and double mouse click using vo shift space, but nothing works on those links - Andy On 31 Aug 2013, at 21:01, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: I have that issue to, but I just keep clicking the link, but when you let's say go from the item chooser and find the link you *have to* press the thing twice as the first press moves it to the link, the second time clicks the link, or what ever the item might be. Tc. On Aug 31, 2013, at 12:30 PM, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote: All I can say, is that I regularly encounter times when clicking a link on a webpage produces nothing at all, like you say, it just sits there on the link. VO says link pressed, but it doesn't activate it! - Andy On 31 Aug 2013, at 20:11, Chris Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: OK, so normally, I don't know why, but I haven't really been a huge fan of Quicknav, but now, I'm really! not a fan. My ultimate goal was to turn on Quick nav globally throughout the system and use it instead of having to constantly hold my VO keys down. Before you say anything, I'm a Voiceover trainer, so yes, I obviously do know about VO+; to lock my keys. This isn't always a valuable sollution however, as this will then intercept regular alpha-numeric keys as Voiceover commands. Meaning, say I wanted to type a capital letter K. I hit shift+K, and Boom. I've just disabled/enabled my keyboard commander. Real nice! Not? I also understand that being I've got a macbook Pro, I could definitely use trackpad commander, but my hands are big enough that I probably would bump the thing almost constantly. Plus, I have very heavy fingers, and probably would exert too much pressure on the thing, thus accidentally literally clicking the thing, which of corse could give very undesirable results. I actually was having a fairly decent experience with Quicknav until I opened up Safari. What a disaster! First thing that I noticed was I have Safari set automatically to take me into Google upon launch. Well, by default on the Google web site, unless you change it, the Sweetspot is set to the google search text box. That's perfectly OK. That's normally in most cases exactly what I'd want. This way, I pop open Safari, and boom, I'm in the text box, and just start typing my query, then hit return. Well, I have also gone into the Voiceover utility and under commanders/quicknav, I set it up to use single letter navigation so that I'd not have to keep holding down my vo+command keys while jumping table by table, heading by heading, anker by anker, block text by block text, etc. Now, as long as quicknav is enabled within Safari, I can use those single letter keys. The only problem which is really pissing me off is that let's use Google just for example. Now, this happens pretty much on any web site I use, but for simplisity sake, I'm gonna use Google for this example. So, I have quicknav enabled as well as single letter navigation. I fire up Safari, and I'm popped immediately into the search box. So great! Let's say I want to now do a search for say… ACB Radio. Again, I know it's just ACBRadio.org, but again, this is simply for example purpose. So I start interacting with the text box, because if I don't, it will think that some of those letters should be intercepted as navigation single letter commands. So I hit my down and right arrow keys together, and start interacting. I then type in ACBRadio, and hit return. Now, I go to the top of the web site with fn+VO+left arrow. Remember, I'm on a macbook Pro, so I don't have a physical hom/end key, nor a num pad. Now, at the top of the page, not even focused anymore in the text box, as I moved focus away by doing the fn+vo+left arrow to jump to the top of the screen, now, if I simply hit the letter H, you'd think, that it would move me to the next heading on the page, right? Wrong, actually. What it's doing is to jump me back to the search box, I presume it's finding the next search box on the page, which in this case happens to be the search field, then, at the beginning of the box, it's interacting me with that text box without my will, and it's literally insertting that letter H into the box. If I then delete and backspace it out, then vo+right arrow away from the box, then try hitting H again, first being sure that quick nav is indeed enabled, which it is, then I get the same result. It jumps me back up to that text box, interacts, then types the letter H. This is incredibly buggy in my book! Oh, and as if that's not enough, here's another weird thing. With Quick nav on, and single letter nav on, if I type in my search query, then don't even
Re: Onyx
You bet, it's a great app for sure. That and cocktail are the 2 best apps in this category. On Aug 31, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone has anyone tried or does anyone use Onyx? I think this is a fantastic utility for your mac. It is a maintenance and cleaning tool as well as offering other functions. Downloaded and ran it today and my 2011 Macbook Pro 13 running Mountain Lion is now faster. Go search for it via Google as it's not in the Mac App Store. It's by Titanium Software. Kind regards Chris. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Onyx
Will give Cocktail a try. Cheers! On 31/08/2013 21:50, Mike Arrigo wrote: You bet, it's a great app for sure. That and cocktail are the 2 best apps in this category. On Aug 31, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone has anyone tried or does anyone use Onyx? I think this is a fantastic utility for your mac. It is a maintenance and cleaning tool as well as offering other functions. Downloaded and ran it today and my 2011 Macbook Pro 13 running Mountain Lion is now faster. Go search for it via Google as it's not in the Mac App Store. It's by Titanium Software. Kind regards Chris. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Incredibly annoying, not to mention extremely buggy problem with Quicknav
Hmm. maybe the page changes and you don't hear it. I've had dynamic pages like that where they change and you have to look for it. Try that as well. Good luck. On Aug 31, 2013, at 1:50 PM, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote: Sarah - No matter how many times I click the link, it doesn't work, nor does using the item chooser, I've even interacted, brought the mouse pointer to the link with vo cmd f5, and done a single and double mouse click using vo shift space, but nothing works on those links - Andy On 31 Aug 2013, at 21:01, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: I have that issue to, but I just keep clicking the link, but when you let's say go from the item chooser and find the link you *have to* press the thing twice as the first press moves it to the link, the second time clicks the link, or what ever the item might be. Tc. On Aug 31, 2013, at 12:30 PM, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote: All I can say, is that I regularly encounter times when clicking a link on a webpage produces nothing at all, like you say, it just sits there on the link. VO says link pressed, but it doesn't activate it! - Andy On 31 Aug 2013, at 20:11, Chris Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: OK, so normally, I don't know why, but I haven't really been a huge fan of Quicknav, but now, I'm really! not a fan. My ultimate goal was to turn on Quick nav globally throughout the system and use it instead of having to constantly hold my VO keys down. Before you say anything, I'm a Voiceover trainer, so yes, I obviously do know about VO+; to lock my keys. This isn't always a valuable sollution however, as this will then intercept regular alpha-numeric keys as Voiceover commands. Meaning, say I wanted to type a capital letter K. I hit shift+K, and Boom. I've just disabled/enabled my keyboard commander. Real nice! Not? I also understand that being I've got a macbook Pro, I could definitely use trackpad commander, but my hands are big enough that I probably would bump the thing almost constantly. Plus, I have very heavy fingers, and probably would exert too much pressure on the thing, thus accidentally literally clicking the thing, which of corse could give very undesirable results. I actually was having a fairly decent experience with Quicknav until I opened up Safari. What a disaster! First thing that I noticed was I have Safari set automatically to take me into Google upon launch. Well, by default on the Google web site, unless you change it, the Sweetspot is set to the google search text box. That's perfectly OK. That's normally in most cases exactly what I'd want. This way, I pop open Safari, and boom, I'm in the text box, and just start typing my query, then hit return. Well, I have also gone into the Voiceover utility and under commanders/quicknav, I set it up to use single letter navigation so that I'd not have to keep holding down my vo+command keys while jumping table by table, heading by heading, anker by anker, block text by block text, etc. Now, as long as quicknav is enabled within Safari, I can use those single letter keys. The only problem which is really pissing me off is that let's use Google just for example. Now, this happens pretty much on any web site I use, but for simplisity sake, I'm gonna use Google for this example. So, I have quicknav enabled as well as single letter navigation. I fire up Safari, and I'm popped immediately into the search box. So great! Let's say I want to now do a search for say… ACB Radio. Again, I know it's just ACBRadio.org, but again, this is simply for example purpose. So I start interacting with the text box, because if I don't, it will think that some of those letters should be intercepted as navigation single letter commands. So I hit my down and right arrow keys together, and start interacting. I then type in ACBRadio, and hit return. Now, I go to the top of the web site with fn+VO+left arrow. Remember, I'm on a macbook Pro, so I don't have a physical hom/end key, nor a num pad. Now, at the top of the page, not even focused anymore in the text box, as I moved focus away by doing the fn+vo+left arrow to jump to the top of the screen, now, if I simply hit the letter H, you'd think, that it would move me to the next heading on the page, right? Wrong, actually. What it's doing is to jump me back to the search box, I presume it's finding the next search box on the page, which in this case happens to be the search field, then, at the beginning of the box, it's interacting me with that text box without my will, and it's literally insertting that letter H into the box. If I then delete and backspace it out, then vo+right arrow away from the box, then try hitting H again, first being sure that quick nav is indeed enabled, which it is, then I get the same result. It jumps me back up to that text
Re: Incredibly annoying, not to mention extremely buggy problem with Quicknav
Hi all, The reason for quicknav, I'd think, is to quickly navigate to other items without turning it on and off all the time. Wouldn't interacting with a text box mean that you want all the keys to be typed, whereas when not interacting, you'd want them to be used as quicknav keys? Thanks. On 9/1/2013 12:30 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote: It won't. not unless qn is off. Remember vo plus enter starts selecting stuff so that is I think a feature. Also, just turn an off and type in tot eh field, hit enter and turn qn on. Easy fix there and this is how I get around web pages like google. Take care and try turning qn off before typing in the search field. I don't think qun is meant to be used all the time. At least I have not found it used all the time. Good luck. On Aug 31, 2013, at 12:11 PM, Chris Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: OK, so normally, I don't know why, but I haven't really been a huge fan of Quicknav, but now, I'm really! not a fan. My ultimate goal was to turn on Quick nav globally throughout the system and use it instead of having to constantly hold my VO keys down. Before you say anything, I'm a Voiceover trainer, so yes, I obviously do know about VO+; to lock my keys. This isn't always a valuable sollution however, as this will then intercept regular alpha-numeric keys as Voiceover commands. Meaning, say I wanted to type a capital letter K. I hit shift+K, and Boom. I've just disabled/enabled my keyboard commander. Real nice! Not? I also understand that being I've got a macbook Pro, I could definitely use trackpad commander, but my hands are big enough that I probably would bump the thing almost constantly. Plus, I have very heavy fingers, and probably would exert too much pressure on the thing, thus accidentally literally clicking the thing, which of corse could give very undesirable results. I actually was having a fairly decent experience with Quicknav until I opened up Safari. What a disaster! First thing that I noticed was I have Safari set automatically to take me into Google upon launch. Well, by default on the Google web site, unless you change it, the Sweetspot is set to the google search text box. That's perfectly OK. That's normally in most cases exactly what I'd want. This way, I pop open Safari, and boom, I'm in the text box, and just start typing my query, then hit return. Well, I have also gone into the Voiceover utility and under commanders/quicknav, I set it up to use single letter navigation so that I'd not have to keep holding down my vo+command keys while jumping table by table, heading by heading, anker by anker, block text by block text, etc. Now, as long as quicknav is enabled within Safari, I can use those single letter keys. The only problem which is really pissing me off is that let's use Google just for example. Now, this happens pretty much on any web site I use, but for simplisity sake, I'm gonna use Google for this example. So, I have quicknav enabled as well as single letter navigation. I fire up Safari, and I'm popped immediately into the search box. So great! Let's say I want to now do a search for say… ACB Radio. Again, I know it's just ACBRadio.org, but again, this is simply for example purpose. So I start interacting with the text box, because if I don't, it will think that some of those letters should be intercepted as navigation single letter commands. So I hit my down and right arrow keys together, and start interacting. I then type in ACBRadio, and hit return. Now, I go to the top of the web site with fn+VO+left arrow. Remember, I'm on a macbook Pro, so I don't have a physical hom/end key, nor a num pad. Now, at the top of the page, not even focused anymore in the text box, as I moved focus away by doing the fn+vo+left arrow to jump to the top of the screen, now, if I simply hit the letter H, you'd think, that it would move me to the next heading on the page, right? Wrong, actually. What it's doing is to jump me back to the search box, I presume it's finding the next search box on the page, which in this case happens to be the search field, then, at the beginning of the box, it's interacting me with that text box without my will, and it's literally insertting that letter H into the box. If I then delete and backspace it out, then vo+right arrow away from the box, then try hitting H again, first being sure that quick nav is indeed enabled, which it is, then I get the same result. It jumps me back up to that text box, interacts, then types the letter H. This is incredibly buggy in my book! Oh, and as if that's not enough, here's another weird thing. With Quick nav on, and single letter nav on, if I type in my search query, then don't even vo+right arrow to the google search button, but instead just hit return, like I normally did with quick nav not enabled, it doesn't do a bloody thing! It just kind a sits there, and thinks about life. It doesn't
Re: Incredibly annoying, not to mention extremely buggy problem with Quicknav
Agreed. that's why I'm saying turn qn off if you are to type in a field. IN fact on a bt keyboard in ios generally qn is turn doff when you press up and down arrow to tap a field for editing. I generally use it to move to a button then turn it off as I have access to other elements of vo and links and stuff with those keys that are in the quick start and help menus. Take care all and be blessed. On Aug 31, 2013, at 10:12 PM, Parham Doustdar parha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, The reason for quicknav, I'd think, is to quickly navigate to other items without turning it on and off all the time. Wouldn't interacting with a text box mean that you want all the keys to be typed, whereas when not interacting, you'd want them to be used as quicknav keys? Thanks. On 9/1/2013 12:30 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote: It won't. not unless qn is off. Remember vo plus enter starts selecting stuff so that is I think a feature. Also, just turn an off and type in tot eh field, hit enter and turn qn on. Easy fix there and this is how I get around web pages like google. Take care and try turning qn off before typing in the search field. I don't think qun is meant to be used all the time. At least I have not found it used all the time. Good luck. On Aug 31, 2013, at 12:11 PM, Chris Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: OK, so normally, I don't know why, but I haven't really been a huge fan of Quicknav, but now, I'm really! not a fan. My ultimate goal was to turn on Quick nav globally throughout the system and use it instead of having to constantly hold my VO keys down. Before you say anything, I'm a Voiceover trainer, so yes, I obviously do know about VO+; to lock my keys. This isn't always a valuable sollution however, as this will then intercept regular alpha-numeric keys as Voiceover commands. Meaning, say I wanted to type a capital letter K. I hit shift+K, and Boom. I've just disabled/enabled my keyboard commander. Real nice! Not? I also understand that being I've got a macbook Pro, I could definitely use trackpad commander, but my hands are big enough that I probably would bump the thing almost constantly. Plus, I have very heavy fingers, and probably would exert too much pressure on the thing, thus accidentally literally clicking the thing, which of corse could give very undesirable results. I actually was having a fairly decent experience with Quicknav until I opened up Safari. What a disaster! First thing that I noticed was I have Safari set automatically to take me into Google upon launch. Well, by default on the Google web site, unless you change it, the Sweetspot is set to the google search text box. That's perfectly OK. That's normally in most cases exactly what I'd want. This way, I pop open Safari, and boom, I'm in the text box, and just start typing my query, then hit return. Well, I have also gone into the Voiceover utility and under commanders/quicknav, I set it up to use single letter navigation so that I'd not have to keep holding down my vo+command keys while jumping table by table, heading by heading, anker by anker, block text by block text, etc. Now, as long as quicknav is enabled within Safari, I can use those single letter keys. The only problem which is really pissing me off is that let's use Google just for example. Now, this happens pretty much on any web site I use, but for simplisity sake, I'm gonna use Google for this example. So, I have quicknav enabled as well as single letter navigation. I fire up Safari, and I'm popped immediately into the search box. So great! Let's say I want to now do a search for say… ACB Radio. Again, I know it's just ACBRadio.org, but again, this is simply for example purpose. So I start interacting with the text box, because if I don't, it will think that some of those letters should be intercepted as navigation single letter commands. So I hit my down and right arrow keys together, and start interacting. I then type in ACBRadio, and hit return. Now, I go to the top of the web site with fn+VO+left arrow. Remember, I'm on a macbook Pro, so I don't have a physical hom/end key, nor a num pad. Now, at the top of the page, not even focused anymore in the text box, as I moved focus away by doing the fn+vo+left arrow to jump to the top of the screen, now, if I simply hit the letter H, you'd think, that it would move me to the next heading on the page, right? Wrong, actually. What it's doing is to jump me back to the search box, I presume it's finding the next search box on the page, which in this case happens to be the search field, then, at the beginning of the box, it's interacting me with that text box without my will, and it's literally insertting that letter H into the box. If I then delete and backspace it out, then vo+right arrow away from the box, then try hitting H again, first being sure that quick
Re: Incredibly annoying, not to mention extremely buggy problem with Quicknav
To be correct, your problem is with quick nabs functionality rather than it being buggy. It works the way it's intended too. Danny. Sent from my iPhone On 01/09/2013, at 3:12 PM, Parham Doustdar parha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, The reason for quicknav, I'd think, is to quickly navigate to other items without turning it on and off all the time. Wouldn't interacting with a text box mean that you want all the keys to be typed, whereas when not interacting, you'd want them to be used as quicknav keys? Thanks. On 9/1/2013 12:30 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote: It won't. not unless qn is off. Remember vo plus enter starts selecting stuff so that is I think a feature. Also, just turn an off and type in tot eh field, hit enter and turn qn on. Easy fix there and this is how I get around web pages like google. Take care and try turning qn off before typing in the search field. I don't think qun is meant to be used all the time. At least I have not found it used all the time. Good luck. On Aug 31, 2013, at 12:11 PM, Chris Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: OK, so normally, I don't know why, but I haven't really been a huge fan of Quicknav, but now, I'm really! not a fan. My ultimate goal was to turn on Quick nav globally throughout the system and use it instead of having to constantly hold my VO keys down. Before you say anything, I'm a Voiceover trainer, so yes, I obviously do know about VO+; to lock my keys. This isn't always a valuable sollution however, as this will then intercept regular alpha-numeric keys as Voiceover commands. Meaning, say I wanted to type a capital letter K. I hit shift+K, and Boom. I've just disabled/enabled my keyboard commander. Real nice! Not? I also understand that being I've got a macbook Pro, I could definitely use trackpad commander, but my hands are big enough that I probably would bump the thing almost constantly. Plus, I have very heavy fingers, and probably would exert too much pressure on the thing, thus accidentally literally clicking the thing, which of corse could give very undesirable results. I actually was having a fairly decent experience with Quicknav until I opened up Safari. What a disaster! First thing that I noticed was I have Safari set automatically to take me into Google upon launch. Well, by default on the Google web site, unless you change it, the Sweetspot is set to the google search text box. That's perfectly OK. That's normally in most cases exactly what I'd want. This way, I pop open Safari, and boom, I'm in the text box, and just start typing my query, then hit return. Well, I have also gone into the Voiceover utility and under commanders/quicknav, I set it up to use single letter navigation so that I'd not have to keep holding down my vo+command keys while jumping table by table, heading by heading, anker by anker, block text by block text, etc. Now, as long as quicknav is enabled within Safari, I can use those single letter keys. The only problem which is really pissing me off is that let's use Google just for example. Now, this happens pretty much on any web site I use, but for simplisity sake, I'm gonna use Google for this example. So, I have quicknav enabled as well as single letter navigation. I fire up Safari, and I'm popped immediately into the search box. So great! Let's say I want to now do a search for say… ACB Radio. Again, I know it's just ACBRadio.org, but again, this is simply for example purpose. So I start interacting with the text box, because if I don't, it will think that some of those letters should be intercepted as navigation single letter commands. So I hit my down and right arrow keys together, and start interacting. I then type in ACBRadio, and hit return. Now, I go to the top of the web site with fn+VO+left arrow. Remember, I'm on a macbook Pro, so I don't have a physical hom/end key, nor a num pad. Now, at the top of the page, not even focused anymore in the text box, as I moved focus away by doing the fn+vo+left arrow to jump to the top of the screen, now, if I simply hit the letter H, you'd think, that it would move me to the next heading on the page, right? Wrong, actually. What it's doing is to jump me back to the search box, I presume it's finding the next search box on the page, which in this case happens to be the search field, then, at the beginning of the box, it's interacting me with that text box without my will, and it's literally insertting that letter H into the box. If I then delete and backspace it out, then vo+right arrow away from the box, then try hitting H again, first being sure that quick nav is indeed enabled, which it is, then I get the same result. It jumps me back up to that text box, interacts, then types the letter H. This is incredibly buggy in my book! Oh, and as if that's not enough, here's another weird thing. With
Re: Incredibly annoying, not to mention extremely buggy problem with Quicknav
Hi Danny, Right. My fault then. By reading the Voiceover manual, I incorrectly assumed that making no mention of this behavior meant VO functions the same as screen readers on other platforms when interacting on a form field. I'm soon buying a Mac mini, so I'm glad stuff like this is brought up in the list. :-) Thanks! On 9/1/2013 9:46 AM, Danny Noonan wrote: To be correct, your problem is with quick nabs functionality rather than it being buggy. It works the way it's intended too. Danny. Sent from my iPhone On 01/09/2013, at 3:12 PM, Parham Doustdar parha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, The reason for quicknav, I'd think, is to quickly navigate to other items without turning it on and off all the time. Wouldn't interacting with a text box mean that you want all the keys to be typed, whereas when not interacting, you'd want them to be used as quicknav keys? Thanks. On 9/1/2013 12:30 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote: It won't. not unless qn is off. Remember vo plus enter starts selecting stuff so that is I think a feature. Also, just turn an off and type in tot eh field, hit enter and turn qn on. Easy fix there and this is how I get around web pages like google. Take care and try turning qn off before typing in the search field. I don't think qun is meant to be used all the time. At least I have not found it used all the time. Good luck. On Aug 31, 2013, at 12:11 PM, Chris Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: OK, so normally, I don't know why, but I haven't really been a huge fan of Quicknav, but now, I'm really! not a fan. My ultimate goal was to turn on Quick nav globally throughout the system and use it instead of having to constantly hold my VO keys down. Before you say anything, I'm a Voiceover trainer, so yes, I obviously do know about VO+; to lock my keys. This isn't always a valuable sollution however, as this will then intercept regular alpha-numeric keys as Voiceover commands. Meaning, say I wanted to type a capital letter K. I hit shift+K, and Boom. I've just disabled/enabled my keyboard commander. Real nice! Not? I also understand that being I've got a macbook Pro, I could definitely use trackpad commander, but my hands are big enough that I probably would bump the thing almost constantly. Plus, I have very heavy fingers, and probably would exert too much pressure on the thing, thus accidentally literally clicking the thing, which of corse could give very undesirable results. I actually was having a fairly decent experience with Quicknav until I opened up Safari. What a disaster! First thing that I noticed was I have Safari set automatically to take me into Google upon launch. Well, by default on the Google web site, unless you change it, the Sweetspot is set to the google search text box. That's perfectly OK. That's normally in most cases exactly what I'd want. This way, I pop open Safari, and boom, I'm in the text box, and just start typing my query, then hit return. Well, I have also gone into the Voiceover utility and under commanders/quicknav, I set it up to use single letter navigation so that I'd not have to keep holding down my vo+command keys while jumping table by table, heading by heading, anker by anker, block text by block text, etc. Now, as long as quicknav is enabled within Safari, I can use those single letter keys. The only problem which is really pissing me off is that let's use Google just for example. Now, this happens pretty much on any web site I use, but for simplisity sake, I'm gonna use Google for this example. So, I have quicknav enabled as well as single letter navigation. I fire up Safari, and I'm popped immediately into the search box. So great! Let's say I want to now do a search for say… ACB Radio. Again, I know it's just ACBRadio.org, but again, this is simply for example purpose. So I start interacting with the text box, because if I don't, it will think that some of those letters should be intercepted as navigation single letter commands. So I hit my down and right arrow keys together, and start interacting. I then type in ACBRadio, and hit return. Now, I go to the top of the web site with fn+VO+left arrow. Remember, I'm on a macbook Pro, so I don't have a physical hom/end key, nor a num pad. Now, at the top of the page, not even focused anymore in the text box, as I moved focus away by doing the fn+vo+left arrow to jump to the top of the screen, now, if I simply hit the letter H, you'd think, that it would move me to the next heading on the page, right? Wrong, actually. What it's doing is to jump me back to the search box, I presume it's finding the next search box on the page, which in this case happens to be the search field, then, at the beginning of the box, it's interacting me with that text box without my will, and it's literally insertting that letter H into the box. If I then delete and backspace it out, then vo+right arrow away from the box, then try
Re: Incredibly annoying, not to mention extremely buggy problem with Quicknav
Lol. No problems. We all learn. I've been a mac user for 3 years and I am always learning new things in regards to what my mac can and cannot do. bbut I love qn as you can quickly get around stuff like dialogues and stuff. I don't know all of the key strokes but it is still very very useful. Tc and be blessed. On Aug 31, 2013, at 10:27 PM, Parham Doustdar parha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Danny, Right. My fault then. By reading the Voiceover manual, I incorrectly assumed that making no mention of this behavior meant VO functions the same as screen readers on other platforms when interacting on a form field. I'm soon buying a Mac mini, so I'm glad stuff like this is brought up in the list. :-) Thanks! On 9/1/2013 9:46 AM, Danny Noonan wrote: To be correct, your problem is with quick nabs functionality rather than it being buggy. It works the way it's intended too. Danny. Sent from my iPhone On 01/09/2013, at 3:12 PM, Parham Doustdar parha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, The reason for quicknav, I'd think, is to quickly navigate to other items without turning it on and off all the time. Wouldn't interacting with a text box mean that you want all the keys to be typed, whereas when not interacting, you'd want them to be used as quicknav keys? Thanks. On 9/1/2013 12:30 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote: It won't. not unless qn is off. Remember vo plus enter starts selecting stuff so that is I think a feature. Also, just turn an off and type in tot eh field, hit enter and turn qn on. Easy fix there and this is how I get around web pages like google. Take care and try turning qn off before typing in the search field. I don't think qun is meant to be used all the time. At least I have not found it used all the time. Good luck. On Aug 31, 2013, at 12:11 PM, Chris Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: OK, so normally, I don't know why, but I haven't really been a huge fan of Quicknav, but now, I'm really! not a fan. My ultimate goal was to turn on Quick nav globally throughout the system and use it instead of having to constantly hold my VO keys down. Before you say anything, I'm a Voiceover trainer, so yes, I obviously do know about VO+; to lock my keys. This isn't always a valuable sollution however, as this will then intercept regular alpha-numeric keys as Voiceover commands. Meaning, say I wanted to type a capital letter K. I hit shift+K, and Boom. I've just disabled/enabled my keyboard commander. Real nice! Not? I also understand that being I've got a macbook Pro, I could definitely use trackpad commander, but my hands are big enough that I probably would bump the thing almost constantly. Plus, I have very heavy fingers, and probably would exert too much pressure on the thing, thus accidentally literally clicking the thing, which of corse could give very undesirable results. I actually was having a fairly decent experience with Quicknav until I opened up Safari. What a disaster! First thing that I noticed was I have Safari set automatically to take me into Google upon launch. Well, by default on the Google web site, unless you change it, the Sweetspot is set to the google search text box. That's perfectly OK. That's normally in most cases exactly what I'd want. This way, I pop open Safari, and boom, I'm in the text box, and just start typing my query, then hit return. Well, I have also gone into the Voiceover utility and under commanders/quicknav, I set it up to use single letter navigation so that I'd not have to keep holding down my vo+command keys while jumping table by table, heading by heading, anker by anker, block text by block text, etc. Now, as long as quicknav is enabled within Safari, I can use those single letter keys. The only problem which is really pissing me off is that let's use Google just for example. Now, this happens pretty much on any web site I use, but for simplisity sake, I'm gonna use Google for this example. So, I have quicknav enabled as well as single letter navigation. I fire up Safari, and I'm popped immediately into the search box. So great! Let's say I want to now do a search for say… ACB Radio. Again, I know it's just ACBRadio.org, but again, this is simply for example purpose. So I start interacting with the text box, because if I don't, it will think that some of those letters should be intercepted as navigation single letter commands. So I hit my down and right arrow keys together, and start interacting. I then type in ACBRadio, and hit return. Now, I go to the top of the web site with fn+VO+left arrow. Remember, I'm on a macbook Pro, so I don't have a physical hom/end key, nor a num pad. Now, at the top of the page, not even focused anymore in the text box, as I moved focus away by doing the fn+vo+left arrow to jump to the top of the screen, now, if I simply hit the letter H, you'd think, that it
Re: Incredibly annoying, not to mention extremely buggy problem with Quicknav
Hi Sarah, Thanks a lot for mentioning this! On 9/1/2013 9:47 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote: Agreed. that's why I'm saying turn qn off if you are to type in a field. IN fact on a bt keyboard in ios generally qn is turn doff when you press up and down arrow to tap a field for editing. I generally use it to move to a button then turn it off as I have access to other elements of vo and links and stuff with those keys that are in the quick start and help menus. Take care all and be blessed. On Aug 31, 2013, at 10:12 PM, Parham Doustdar parha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, The reason for quicknav, I'd think, is to quickly navigate to other items without turning it on and off all the time. Wouldn't interacting with a text box mean that you want all the keys to be typed, whereas when not interacting, you'd want them to be used as quicknav keys? Thanks. On 9/1/2013 12:30 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote: It won't. not unless qn is off. Remember vo plus enter starts selecting stuff so that is I think a feature. Also, just turn an off and type in tot eh field, hit enter and turn qn on. Easy fix there and this is how I get around web pages like google. Take care and try turning qn off before typing in the search field. I don't think qun is meant to be used all the time. At least I have not found it used all the time. Good luck. On Aug 31, 2013, at 12:11 PM, Chris Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: OK, so normally, I don't know why, but I haven't really been a huge fan of Quicknav, but now, I'm really! not a fan. My ultimate goal was to turn on Quick nav globally throughout the system and use it instead of having to constantly hold my VO keys down. Before you say anything, I'm a Voiceover trainer, so yes, I obviously do know about VO+; to lock my keys. This isn't always a valuable sollution however, as this will then intercept regular alpha-numeric keys as Voiceover commands. Meaning, say I wanted to type a capital letter K. I hit shift+K, and Boom. I've just disabled/enabled my keyboard commander. Real nice! Not? I also understand that being I've got a macbook Pro, I could definitely use trackpad commander, but my hands are big enough that I probably would bump the thing almost constantly. Plus, I have very heavy fingers, and probably would exert too much pressure on the thing, thus accidentally literally clicking the thing, which of corse could give very undesirable results. I actually was having a fairly decent experience with Quicknav until I opened up Safari. What a disaster! First thing that I noticed was I have Safari set automatically to take me into Google upon launch. Well, by default on the Google web site, unless you change it, the Sweetspot is set to the google search text box. That's perfectly OK. That's normally in most cases exactly what I'd want. This way, I pop open Safari, and boom, I'm in the text box, and just start typing my query, then hit return. Well, I have also gone into the Voiceover utility and under commanders/quicknav, I set it up to use single letter navigation so that I'd not have to keep holding down my vo+command keys while jumping table by table, heading by heading, anker by anker, block text by block text, etc. Now, as long as quicknav is enabled within Safari, I can use those single letter keys. The only problem which is really pissing me off is that let's use Google just for example. Now, this happens pretty much on any web site I use, but for simplisity sake, I'm gonna use Google for this example. So, I have quicknav enabled as well as single letter navigation. I fire up Safari, and I'm popped immediately into the search box. So great! Let's say I want to now do a search for say… ACB Radio. Again, I know it's just ACBRadio.org, but again, this is simply for example purpose. So I start interacting with the text box, because if I don't, it will think that some of those letters should be intercepted as navigation single letter commands. So I hit my down and right arrow keys together, and start interacting. I then type in ACBRadio, and hit return. Now, I go to the top of the web site with fn+VO+left arrow. Remember, I'm on a macbook Pro, so I don't have a physical hom/end key, nor a num pad. Now, at the top of the page, not even focused anymore in the text box, as I moved focus away by doing the fn+vo+left arrow to jump to the top of the screen, now, if I simply hit the letter H, you'd think, that it would move me to the next heading on the page, right? Wrong, actually. What it's doing is to jump me back to the search box, I presume it's finding the next search box on the page, which in this case happens to be the search field, then, at the beginning of the box, it's interacting me with that text box without my will, and it's literally insertting that letter H into the box. If I then delete and backspace it out, then vo+right arrow away from the box, then try hitting H again, first being
