Re: Question: Reading Webpages
Hi Sarah, I'm aware of that keystroke. My issues are with reading search result descriptions, not titles. Thanks. On 10/31/2013 7:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: Why don't you just use your next and previous heading keystrokes. I can navigate the Google search results fairly quickly. Look that up in the vo manual. There are also next and same heading and element keystrokes. Tc. On Oct 31, 2013, at 0:13, Parham Doustdar parha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Travis, I'm aware of highlighting and the page markup being in different bits. However, I have to reiterate here: I'm not trying to find what problems Voiceover has, I'm just trying to see if they are possible to circumvent. That is, I'm trying to see how I can get an experience like that of Windows/Linux screen readers so that it would fall into my comfort zone. David kindly mentioned that every screen reader has its own quirks and advantages, and that I shouldn't expect Voiceover to deliver the same experience, Google highlighting the results or not. From that message, I extracted the following answer to my question: For _any_ reason, to read Google search results, you have to move to the next object several times. There is no way to lower the number of keystrokes (I.E. switching to read by line and then headings and back takes as many, or even more, keystrokes than going through the website address and the highlighted words in the website description). Hope that recap helps someone else in the future :) On 10/30/2013 5:27 PM, Travis Siegel wrote: One thing to keep in mind about search results from google is that google has the habbit of highlighting any search terms in the search results. This has the unfortunate result of sometimes putting breaks where they really shouldn't be, and vo acts accordingly. It is a bit irritating, but you get used to it. It's not a problem with voiceover, it's how the results are displayed, vo has no control over that. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message
Forwarded Messages
Hello all As members will be aware if they've either bothered to rlead the policy document for this group or if they've remembered our previous reminders on this subject, forwarded messages to the group are expressedly against list policy except under certain circumstances. These circumstances are clearly defined in the policy document which each and every member was sent when they joined. I'm still playing catch-up to a huge amount of mail. However, It has not escaped my attention that there have been a nouber of forwards to this group of late.We feel that we've posted enough warnings about this by now, and certain people are still disregarding them. OK, I'll be in touch with them privately to discuss this issue in due course. But this is the final time we will post a warnsh to the group as a whole. Repeated offences of this nature will now incur restrictions without prior notice. Kind regards Gordon Smith Information Technology Accessibility Consultant Providing Support For Young People Living With Sight Loss: Advice On Accessible Information Technologies, And Braille Transcription Services. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Sound recording, music, vocal tracks
Hi Chris No, it sounds like given the circumstances I’m going to have to do separate vocal tracks. The harmonisation issue doesn’t exist, as I have perfect pitch, after a fashion these days, but I do still have it. As I said, there are two issues here regarding ProTools. Lynne tells me that the funds could be made available if need be. But the main issue is that it seems that Avid will only ship ProTools boxed, not downloadable. That said, I am tempted by the M Audio box they are currently offering alongside a purchase of ProTools. But I think I’d prefer a digital download. I’m keen to get this done, but I need to brush up on my production of FX and VoiceOver skills. I have a bunch of pre-recorded FX’s here which I need to loop together. To make them sound right even over a VoiceOver is something I’m going to have to learn over again because I haven’t done this kind of work digitally. I used to do it daily when we were back in the good old world of tape splicing. But that was about a million years ago and I’ve probably forgotten all the skills I once had. But I want to re-learn. Kind regards --- Gordon Smith --- gor...@mac-access.net Information Technology Accessibility Consultant; Providing Help Support To Young People With Visual Impairment, plus Braille Transcription services. On 29 Oct 2013, at 21:38, Christopher-Mark Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: Quite bluntly, The obvious thing to do actually wouldn't be to get ProTools, but would be to get someone who could sing correctly in the range needed for the harmoney part and do it naturally. Otherwise, it's gonna sound terrible! Yes, you can raise the pitch, but then you look at two problems. Firstly, the person will either 1, sound all chipmunk like, or 2, they will sound all chipmunk like, plus if you force it to only adjust the pitch, not the speed, then you'll introduce really weird sounding artifacts. coming from me being a professional sound engineer who does this for a living, trust me, just to do pitch correction, is probably not what you're looking for here. It does have it's time and place, yes, and without hearing the raw vocal, it's hard to say, but I just can't see that being the best way to work through this. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Sound recording, music, vocal tracks
Chris This has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with believing or not believing. I am simply throwing forward ideas and looking for the best way to accomplish them. Please don’t start reading things into messages which are not written there. :) At no time did I ever say “I don’t believe you”. But sometimes, solutions can be found to problems which are not always obvious and, just sometimes, even somebody who believes they are in the know can be surprised by innovative solutions which others may find to specific problems. Kind regards --- Gordon Smith --- gor...@mac-access.net Information Technology Accessibility Consultant; Providing Help Support To Young People With Visual Impairment, plus Braille Transcription services. On 29 Oct 2013, at 21:40, Christopher-Mark Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: Sarah, it actually does answer the question. I've tried telling him before, things like this won't really work quite that easily, but he doesn't seem to wanna believe me. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Sound recording, music, vocal tracks
See, this is why this stuff has always been beyond me, I'm more of the how does it work, how do you fix it person? The fact that you and other people like you know how to do this stuff is amazing to me, not that I'm taking on the blind people are totally amazing mantra, but just that I could never get how to do any of this stuff. LOL. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 2, 2013, at 7:33 AM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: I happen to agree with this. An FX processor, no matter how good, will never accurately emulate the sound of a human voice even assuming you can get the pitch changes spot on. Dane’s Yamaha unit may not even be an FX processor, I don’t know. I too have an FX processor but it can only do so much. Actually, Sarah did hit the nail on the head when she spoke about the different chords or, to use the proper term, “Intervals” You see, I too have some musical training and background. But what has come out of this is actually a very positive discussion. So let’s not start taking things personally or making noises regarding what others write. This is merely a discussion which I started because I wanted to see whether anybody could come up with a technological solution. I know how this used to be done in the good old days of analogue. But now we’re all digital and I was kind of hoping there might be a short cut. Seems like there is not a short cut. So we’ll have to do this the good old fashioned way. The skill here, apart from hitting the correct intervals to create effective harmonies is to produce vocals with the same inflections on the same beat of each note. It’s going to sound pretty horrendous if, for instance, an “N” sound were to be elongated on one track and not on the accompanying track. That was always the skill of the musician in the good old days of analogue. I have done a little work in a studio environment. True, that was only a 16-track studio and not the 64-track recording studio type of setup. But all the same, when you listen to a band like, for example, Queen sing, or a musician sing in harmony with another musician, they always hit the same inflections. This is taking us way off topic. Bit it sounds to me as though the only solution to this problem which is available to me is going to be doing it the hard way. Again, ProTools is out of my price range just at the moment. Although perhaps some may snub them, there are other tools which can be used to produce similar results. Possibly not as seamlessly, but I’m sure it can be done. Kind regards --- Gordon Smith --- gor...@mac-access.net Information Technology Accessibility Consultant; Providing Help Support To Young People With Visual Impairment, plus Braille Transcription services. On 29 Oct 2013, at 21:41, Christopher-Mark Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: Keep in mind though, a yamaha effects unit is only as good as the person who configures it, same goes with other plugs. Not only this, but most of those things are going to be used more as a vo-coder. Not as something that keeps the original human sound of the voice. It just sounds extremely artificial. Trust me. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor
DocuScan Plus For Mac
Not sure how to fix this actually because I get a trial timeout error and the software won’t allow me to go any further. Kind regards --- Gordon Smith --- gor...@mac-access.net Information Technology Accessibility Consultant; Providing Help Support To Young People With Visual Impairment, plus Braille Transcription services. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: DocuScan Plus And The Cloud
Nit picking. I'm using Docuscan+ now so you're worried about security? Then you save your scanned documents to your computer and not in the cloud. On 2 Nov 2013, at 11:20 pm, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: I must point out here that if you use DocuScan Plus, you have no alternative but to use the cloud technologies. There are some, including us, who are a little unsettled regarding security if you’re scanning sensitive material. That is why I have retained, and will still retain, localised solutions such as VueScan and Abbyy FineReader Express. DocuScan Plus is fine for books and other non-critical documents. But when it comes to documents where your personal data is stored, what guarantee is there that the documents you store in the cloud are not visible to others? Nom, No! Definitely super definitely not my cup of tea for secure documents. Kind regards --- Gordon Smith --- gor...@mac-access.net Information Technology Accessibility Consultant; Providing Help Support To Young People With Visual Impairment, plus Braille Transcription services. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Sound recording, music, vocal tracks
Gordon, I don’t mean to pry into your personal shebang, but if you don’t mind me asking, why are you so much in objection to a physical boxed copy of ProTools? HOnestly, that would probably be the way you’d wanna go anyway, as then you’d get your ILok included in the price of the software, plus, you even could get a really nice interface bundled with the product. I’ve even seen some bundles of ProTools 9 or ProTools 10, for that mind, going as low as $3 or 400 for everythging. I have a friend now, get a load a this! He went up on Amazon, and found a bundle suite which had an M-Audio Fast Tracks C400 USB interface, a full studioware microphone with pop filter included, a full upright floor mike stand, a microphone case, a microphone polish buff cloth, several adapters, studioware headphones, a long snake xlr cable, a studioware carrying duffle bag, an ILok may I add with the ProTools ascet license already on it, the software drivers for the interface, and a copy of ProTools M-Power9.03 all included. Including shipping straight out the door, you know what he paid? I think it was like, $400 if I remember correctly. Obviously that’s USD, not British Pounds/Pents, but it still proves my point. It was dirt dirt dirt! filthy butt cheap! Basically, being this stuff wasn’t refurbbed, that was a blessid steel! OK, he couldn’t do it digitally obviously, but for that cost? Are you freaking kidding me? Is it just that you don’t want to wait on it to arrive? Is the postal system there in the UK not very good? I guess I just don’t get your logic, no punn intended. LOL! For those who don’t get that joke, Logic is another sound editting application. LOL! Anyway… Chris. On Nov 2, 2013, at 6:14 AM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Hi Sarah I too have some musical training and experience in harmonising and chord structures come naturally to me. I was aware of course, as Danny pointed out, that you’d need to do the vocal tracks separately to the instrumentation because if you applied pitch bending you’d then screw up all the instrumentation as well. I have an FX processor which is hardware based, but it doesn’t include a pitch change preset programme and it isn’t programmable. But at least the FX on the vocal tracks isn’t going to be a problem. So, I guess, the next thing I need to do is decide upon which editor to use. Sound Forge Mac isn’t accessible as far as I can see. So we’re back to the usual options. Kind regards --- Gordon Smith --- gor...@mac-access.net Information Technology Accessibility Consultant; Providing Help Support To Young People With Visual Impairment, plus Braille Transcription services. On 29 Oct 2013, at 21:28, Danny Noonan da...@familynoonan.net wrote: There are certainly hardware and software solutions but as mentioned you can't just drop third harmonies over a melody and have it all stay consonant with the chord progression. If there is just vocals you can use a harmoniser but with music involved the harmonising has to be created with the chords in mind or perhaps sampling the vocal but then the harmonised samples have to be time stretched or shrunk. Doing multiple vocal tracks and applying auto tune where required would be the best bet. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this
Re: DocuScan Plus And The Cloud
Dane, I have to agree with Gordon here, I don't have this program but I think how it works is when you scan a document, it is initially sent to the cloud to be converted to text. If this is indeed the case, I can see where he is coming from. If not, my apologies, I'm not exactly well-versed in OCR solutions. I have eyepal, which has since kind of become useless since nobody has come up with a version of X11 for Mavericks yet. Or not that I know of anyway Sent from my iPhone On Nov 2, 2013, at 8:35 AM, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote: Nit picking. I'm using Docuscan+ now so you're worried about security? Then you save your scanned documents to your computer and not in the cloud. On 2 Nov 2013, at 11:20 pm, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: I must point out here that if you use DocuScan Plus, you have no alternative but to use the cloud technologies. There are some, including us, who are a little unsettled regarding security if you’re scanning sensitive material. That is why I have retained, and will still retain, localised solutions such as VueScan and Abbyy FineReader Express. DocuScan Plus is fine for books and other non-critical documents. But when it comes to documents where your personal data is stored, what guarantee is there that the documents you store in the cloud are not visible to others? Nom, No! Definitely super definitely not my cup of tea for secure documents. Kind regards --- Gordon Smith --- gor...@mac-access.net Information Technology Accessibility Consultant; Providing Help Support To Young People With Visual Impairment, plus Braille Transcription services. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: DocuScan Plus And The Cloud
Yes, you're right about the Cloud however, you can save to your computer thus the document doesn't stay in the cloud, when you save to your computer and then close the document window then the document disappears. On 2 Nov 2013, at 11:41 pm, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: Dane, I have to agree with Gordon here, I don't have this program but I think how it works is when you scan a document, it is initially sent to the cloud to be converted to text. If this is indeed the case, I can see where he is coming from. If not, my apologies, I'm not exactly well-versed in OCR solutions. I have eyepal, which has since kind of become useless since nobody has come up with a version of X11 for Mavericks yet. Or not that I know of anyway Sent from my iPhone On Nov 2, 2013, at 8:35 AM, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote: Nit picking. I'm using Docuscan+ now so you're worried about security? Then you save your scanned documents to your computer and not in the cloud. On 2 Nov 2013, at 11:20 pm, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: I must point out here that if you use DocuScan Plus, you have no alternative but to use the cloud technologies. There are some, including us, who are a little unsettled regarding security if you’re scanning sensitive material. That is why I have retained, and will still retain, localised solutions such as VueScan and Abbyy FineReader Express. DocuScan Plus is fine for books and other non-critical documents. But when it comes to documents where your personal data is stored, what guarantee is there that the documents you store in the cloud are not visible to others? Nom, No! Definitely super definitely not my cup of tea for secure documents. Kind regards --- Gordon Smith --- gor...@mac-access.net Information Technology Accessibility Consultant; Providing Help Support To Young People With Visual Impairment, plus Braille Transcription services. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something
Re: DocuScan Plus And The Cloud
Hello Dane I’m not nit-picking at all. And clearly you haven’t figured out how the programme works yet. When you scan a document, it is automatically saved to the cloud first. You have no option there. Yes, you can save it locally and you can apply a delete command to the cloud version. But prove to me that the documents are really deleted! Prove to me that they are not simply moved to a system area where those who administrate the service have access to them. Maybe I’m nit-picking as you put it. But hey, I personally don’t feel at all comfortable with my bank statements etc. being sent to , let alone stored in, a cloud unless I have absolute guaranteed security. I’m not implying that the vendors are in any way malicious. I’m just making the point that security has to be an issue when storing sensitive documents in a cloud. Kind regards --- Gordon Smith --- gor...@mac-access.net Information Technology Accessibility Consultant; Providing Help Support To Young People With Visual Impairment, plus Braille Transcription services. Telephone: United Kingdom: Free Phone: 0800 8620538 Mobile: +44 7907 823971 Europe and other non-specified: +44 1642 688095 Or: +44 1642 941776 United States Of America And Canada: +1 646 9151493 Or: +1 209 436 9443 Australasia: +61 38 8205930 Or: +61 39 0284505 Fax: +44 1642 365123 Follow Us On Twitter: http://twitter.com/maciosaccess Skype: skype:mac-access-dot-net?call -- On 2 Nov 2013, at 12:35, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote: Nit picking. I'm using Docuscan+ now so you're worried about security? Then you save your scanned documents to your computer and not in the cloud. On 2 Nov 2013, at 11:20 pm, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: I must point out here that if you use DocuScan Plus, you have no alternative but to use the cloud technologies. There are some, including us, who are a little unsettled regarding security if you’re scanning sensitive material. That is why I have retained, and will still retain, localised solutions such as VueScan and Abbyy FineReader Express. DocuScan Plus is fine for books and other non-critical documents. But when it comes to documents where your personal data is stored, what guarantee is there that the documents you store in the cloud are not visible to others? Nom, No! Definitely super definitely not my cup of tea for secure documents. Kind regards --- Gordon Smith --- gor...@mac-access.net Information Technology Accessibility Consultant; Providing Help Support To Young People With Visual Impairment, plus Braille Transcription services. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages
Re: DocuScan Plus And The Cloud
Okay… I assume this would either be accomplished through a save dialogue or in the preferences somewhere? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 2, 2013, at 8:45 AM, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote: Yes, you're right about the Cloud however, you can save to your computer thus the document doesn't stay in the cloud, when you save to your computer and then close the document window then the document disappears. On 2 Nov 2013, at 11:41 pm, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: Dane, I have to agree with Gordon here, I don't have this program but I think how it works is when you scan a document, it is initially sent to the cloud to be converted to text. If this is indeed the case, I can see where he is coming from. If not, my apologies, I'm not exactly well-versed in OCR solutions. I have eyepal, which has since kind of become useless since nobody has come up with a version of X11 for Mavericks yet. Or not that I know of anyway Sent from my iPhone On Nov 2, 2013, at 8:35 AM, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote: Nit picking. I'm using Docuscan+ now so you're worried about security? Then you save your scanned documents to your computer and not in the cloud. On 2 Nov 2013, at 11:20 pm, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: I must point out here that if you use DocuScan Plus, you have no alternative but to use the cloud technologies. There are some, including us, who are a little unsettled regarding security if you’re scanning sensitive material. That is why I have retained, and will still retain, localised solutions such as VueScan and Abbyy FineReader Express. DocuScan Plus is fine for books and other non-critical documents. But when it comes to documents where your personal data is stored, what guarantee is there that the documents you store in the cloud are not visible to others? Nom, No! Definitely super definitely not my cup of tea for secure documents. Kind regards --- Gordon Smith --- gor...@mac-access.net Information Technology Accessibility Consultant; Providing Help Support To Young People With Visual Impairment, plus Braille Transcription services. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access
Re: DocuScan Plus And The Cloud
Josh This is exactly how it works. Your document is sent to the cloud as an image and the OCR is done in the cloud. Kind regards --- Gordon Smith --- gor...@mac-access.net Information Technology Accessibility Consultant; Providing Help Support To Young People With Visual Impairment, plus Braille Transcription services. Telephone: United Kingdom: Free Phone: 0800 8620538 Mobile: +44 7907 823971 Europe and other non-specified: +44 1642 688095 Or: +44 1642 941776 United States Of America And Canada: +1 646 9151493 Or: +1 209 436 9443 Australasia: +61 38 8205930 Or: +61 39 0284505 Fax: +44 1642 365123 Follow Us On Twitter: http://twitter.com/maciosaccess Skype: skype:mac-access-dot-net?call -- On 2 Nov 2013, at 12:41, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: Dane, I have to agree with Gordon here, I don't have this program but I think how it works is when you scan a document, it is initially sent to the cloud to be converted to text. If this is indeed the case, I can see where he is coming from. If not, my apologies, I'm not exactly well-versed in OCR solutions. I have eyepal, which has since kind of become useless since nobody has come up with a version of X11 for Mavericks yet. Or not that I know of anyway Sent from my iPhone On Nov 2, 2013, at 8:35 AM, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote: Nit picking. I'm using Docuscan+ now so you're worried about security? Then you save your scanned documents to your computer and not in the cloud. On 2 Nov 2013, at 11:20 pm, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: I must point out here that if you use DocuScan Plus, you have no alternative but to use the cloud technologies. There are some, including us, who are a little unsettled regarding security if you’re scanning sensitive material. That is why I have retained, and will still retain, localised solutions such as VueScan and Abbyy FineReader Express. DocuScan Plus is fine for books and other non-critical documents. But when it comes to documents where your personal data is stored, what guarantee is there that the documents you store in the cloud are not visible to others? Nom, No! Definitely super definitely not my cup of tea for secure documents. Kind regards --- Gordon Smith --- gor...@mac-access.net Information Technology Accessibility Consultant; Providing Help Support To Young People With Visual Impairment, plus Braille Transcription services. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive:
Re: DocuScan Plus And The Cloud
I don't mean to take sides, but I have to agree, I personally think this is one of the issues with the iCloud Keychain service. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 2, 2013, at 8:52 AM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello Dane I’m not nit-picking at all. And clearly you haven’t figured out how the programme works yet. When you scan a document, it is automatically saved to the cloud first. You have no option there. Yes, you can save it locally and you can apply a delete command to the cloud version. But prove to me that the documents are really deleted! Prove to me that they are not simply moved to a system area where those who administrate the service have access to them. Maybe I’m nit-picking as you put it. But hey, I personally don’t feel at all comfortable with my bank statements etc. being sent to , let alone stored in, a cloud unless I have absolute guaranteed security. I’m not implying that the vendors are in any way malicious. I’m just making the point that security has to be an issue when storing sensitive documents in a cloud. Kind regards --- Gordon Smith --- gor...@mac-access.net Information Technology Accessibility Consultant; Providing Help Support To Young People With Visual Impairment, plus Braille Transcription services. Telephone: United Kingdom: Free Phone: 0800 8620538 Mobile: +44 7907 823971 Europe and other non-specified: +44 1642 688095 Or: +44 1642 941776 United States Of America And Canada: +1 646 9151493 Or: +1 209 436 9443 Australasia: +61 38 8205930 Or: +61 39 0284505 Fax: +44 1642 365123 Follow Us On Twitter: http://twitter.com/maciosaccess Skype: skype:mac-access-dot-net?call -- On 2 Nov 2013, at 12:35, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote: Nit picking. I'm using Docuscan+ now so you're worried about security? Then you save your scanned documents to your computer and not in the cloud. On 2 Nov 2013, at 11:20 pm, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: I must point out here that if you use DocuScan Plus, you have no alternative but to use the cloud technologies. There are some, including us, who are a little unsettled regarding security if you’re scanning sensitive material. That is why I have retained, and will still retain, localised solutions such as VueScan and Abbyy FineReader Express. DocuScan Plus is fine for books and other non-critical documents. But when it comes to documents where your personal data is stored, what guarantee is there that the documents you store in the cloud are not visible to others? Nom, No! Definitely super definitely not my cup of tea for secure documents. Kind regards --- Gordon Smith --- gor...@mac-access.net Information Technology Accessibility Consultant; Providing Help Support To Young People With Visual Impairment, plus Braille Transcription services. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen.
Re: DocuScan Plus And The Cloud
Which, while it may seem like a good thing, can also be a security risk as you rightly point out especially when dealing with sensitive documents, one example here that is starting to become an issue is the new health care law. But that's getting way off topic. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 2, 2013, at 8:54 AM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Josh This is exactly how it works. Your document is sent to the cloud as an image and the OCR is done in the cloud. Kind regards --- Gordon Smith --- gor...@mac-access.net Information Technology Accessibility Consultant; Providing Help Support To Young People With Visual Impairment, plus Braille Transcription services. Telephone: United Kingdom: Free Phone: 0800 8620538 Mobile: +44 7907 823971 Europe and other non-specified: +44 1642 688095 Or: +44 1642 941776 United States Of America And Canada: +1 646 9151493 Or: +1 209 436 9443 Australasia: +61 38 8205930 Or: +61 39 0284505 Fax: +44 1642 365123 Follow Us On Twitter: http://twitter.com/maciosaccess Skype: skype:mac-access-dot-net?call -- On 2 Nov 2013, at 12:41, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: Dane, I have to agree with Gordon here, I don't have this program but I think how it works is when you scan a document, it is initially sent to the cloud to be converted to text. If this is indeed the case, I can see where he is coming from. If not, my apologies, I'm not exactly well-versed in OCR solutions. I have eyepal, which has since kind of become useless since nobody has come up with a version of X11 for Mavericks yet. Or not that I know of anyway Sent from my iPhone On Nov 2, 2013, at 8:35 AM, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote: Nit picking. I'm using Docuscan+ now so you're worried about security? Then you save your scanned documents to your computer and not in the cloud. On 2 Nov 2013, at 11:20 pm, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: I must point out here that if you use DocuScan Plus, you have no alternative but to use the cloud technologies. There are some, including us, who are a little unsettled regarding security if you’re scanning sensitive material. That is why I have retained, and will still retain, localised solutions such as VueScan and Abbyy FineReader Express. DocuScan Plus is fine for books and other non-critical documents. But when it comes to documents where your personal data is stored, what guarantee is there that the documents you store in the cloud are not visible to others? Nom, No! Definitely super definitely not my cup of tea for secure documents. Kind regards --- Gordon Smith --- gor...@mac-access.net Information Technology Accessibility Consultant; Providing Help Support To Young People With Visual Impairment, plus Braille Transcription services. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your
Re: DocuScan Plus And The Cloud
Okay, here's the procedure I use and perhaps this will illustrate the point I'm making. After you've finished your scan you will see a Save To Computer button below the HTML content, use this to save your scan to the computer and then if you close the window with command-W this will close the scan with Docuscan, I don't remember wwhether Docuscan+ prompts you at this point to save or not but if you're asked to save then anser appropriately, no document in cloud. On 2 Nov 2013, at 11:53 pm, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: Okay… I assume this would either be accomplished through a save dialogue or in the preferences somewhere? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 2, 2013, at 8:45 AM, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote: Yes, you're right about the Cloud however, you can save to your computer thus the document doesn't stay in the cloud, when you save to your computer and then close the document window then the document disappears. On 2 Nov 2013, at 11:41 pm, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: Dane, I have to agree with Gordon here, I don't have this program but I think how it works is when you scan a document, it is initially sent to the cloud to be converted to text. If this is indeed the case, I can see where he is coming from. If not, my apologies, I'm not exactly well-versed in OCR solutions. I have eyepal, which has since kind of become useless since nobody has come up with a version of X11 for Mavericks yet. Or not that I know of anyway Sent from my iPhone On Nov 2, 2013, at 8:35 AM, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote: Nit picking. I'm using Docuscan+ now so you're worried about security? Then you save your scanned documents to your computer and not in the cloud. On 2 Nov 2013, at 11:20 pm, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: I must point out here that if you use DocuScan Plus, you have no alternative but to use the cloud technologies. There are some, including us, who are a little unsettled regarding security if you’re scanning sensitive material. That is why I have retained, and will still retain, localised solutions such as VueScan and Abbyy FineReader Express. DocuScan Plus is fine for books and other non-critical documents. But when it comes to documents where your personal data is stored, what guarantee is there that the documents you store in the cloud are not visible to others? Nom, No! Definitely super definitely not my cup of tea for secure documents. Kind regards --- Gordon Smith --- gor...@mac-access.net Information Technology Accessibility Consultant; Providing Help Support To Young People With Visual Impairment, plus Braille Transcription services. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply
Re: DocuScan Plus And The Cloud
Its a discussion, I've outlined the procedure I use in a previous message to clarify things and have read the other contributions on the thread. On 2 Nov 2013, at 11:57 pm, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: I don't mean to take sides, but I have to agree, I personally think this is one of the issues with the iCloud Keychain service. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 2, 2013, at 8:52 AM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello Dane I’m not nit-picking at all. And clearly you haven’t figured out how the programme works yet. When you scan a document, it is automatically saved to the cloud first. You have no option there. Yes, you can save it locally and you can apply a delete command to the cloud version. But prove to me that the documents are really deleted! Prove to me that they are not simply moved to a system area where those who administrate the service have access to them. Maybe I’m nit-picking as you put it. But hey, I personally don’t feel at all comfortable with my bank statements etc. being sent to , let alone stored in, a cloud unless I have absolute guaranteed security. I’m not implying that the vendors are in any way malicious. I’m just making the point that security has to be an issue when storing sensitive documents in a cloud. Kind regards --- Gordon Smith --- gor...@mac-access.net Information Technology Accessibility Consultant; Providing Help Support To Young People With Visual Impairment, plus Braille Transcription services. Telephone: United Kingdom: Free Phone: 0800 8620538 Mobile: +44 7907 823971 Europe and other non-specified: +44 1642 688095 Or: +44 1642 941776 United States Of America And Canada: +1 646 9151493 Or: +1 209 436 9443 Australasia: +61 38 8205930 Or: +61 39 0284505 Fax: +44 1642 365123 Follow Us On Twitter: http://twitter.com/maciosaccess Skype: skype:mac-access-dot-net?call -- On 2 Nov 2013, at 12:35, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote: Nit picking. I'm using Docuscan+ now so you're worried about security? Then you save your scanned documents to your computer and not in the cloud. On 2 Nov 2013, at 11:20 pm, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: I must point out here that if you use DocuScan Plus, you have no alternative but to use the cloud technologies. There are some, including us, who are a little unsettled regarding security if you’re scanning sensitive material. That is why I have retained, and will still retain, localised solutions such as VueScan and Abbyy FineReader Express. DocuScan Plus is fine for books and other non-critical documents. But when it comes to documents where your personal data is stored, what guarantee is there that the documents you store in the cloud are not visible to others? Nom, No! Definitely super definitely not my cup of tea for secure documents. Kind regards --- Gordon Smith --- gor...@mac-access.net Information Technology Accessibility Consultant; Providing Help Support To Young People With Visual Impairment, plus Braille Transcription services. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access
Re: DocuScan Plus And The Cloud
Nothing is full proof, we all know that and Docuscan+ can be reasonably secure, for example you need your account number and password to access the service in the first place so regular changing of the password is a good idea. On 2 Nov 2013, at 11:58 pm, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: Which, while it may seem like a good thing, can also be a security risk as you rightly point out especially when dealing with sensitive documents, one example here that is starting to become an issue is the new health care law. But that's getting way off topic. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 2, 2013, at 8:54 AM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Josh This is exactly how it works. Your document is sent to the cloud as an image and the OCR is done in the cloud. Kind regards --- Gordon Smith --- gor...@mac-access.net Information Technology Accessibility Consultant; Providing Help Support To Young People With Visual Impairment, plus Braille Transcription services. Telephone: United Kingdom: Free Phone: 0800 8620538 Mobile: +44 7907 823971 Europe and other non-specified: +44 1642 688095 Or: +44 1642 941776 United States Of America And Canada: +1 646 9151493 Or: +1 209 436 9443 Australasia: +61 38 8205930 Or: +61 39 0284505 Fax: +44 1642 365123 Follow Us On Twitter: http://twitter.com/maciosaccess Skype: skype:mac-access-dot-net?call -- On 2 Nov 2013, at 12:41, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: Dane, I have to agree with Gordon here, I don't have this program but I think how it works is when you scan a document, it is initially sent to the cloud to be converted to text. If this is indeed the case, I can see where he is coming from. If not, my apologies, I'm not exactly well-versed in OCR solutions. I have eyepal, which has since kind of become useless since nobody has come up with a version of X11 for Mavericks yet. Or not that I know of anyway Sent from my iPhone On Nov 2, 2013, at 8:35 AM, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote: Nit picking. I'm using Docuscan+ now so you're worried about security? Then you save your scanned documents to your computer and not in the cloud. On 2 Nov 2013, at 11:20 pm, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: I must point out here that if you use DocuScan Plus, you have no alternative but to use the cloud technologies. There are some, including us, who are a little unsettled regarding security if you’re scanning sensitive material. That is why I have retained, and will still retain, localised solutions such as VueScan and Abbyy FineReader Express. DocuScan Plus is fine for books and other non-critical documents. But when it comes to documents where your personal data is stored, what guarantee is there that the documents you store in the cloud are not visible to others? Nom, No! Definitely super definitely not my cup of tea for secure documents. Kind regards --- Gordon Smith --- gor...@mac-access.net Information Technology Accessibility Consultant; Providing Help Support To Young People With Visual Impairment, plus Braille Transcription services. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our
Re: DocuScan Plus And The Cloud
I see, a little different than I initially imagined. But still good though. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 2, 2013, at 8:59 AM, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote: Okay, here's the procedure I use and perhaps this will illustrate the point I'm making. After you've finished your scan you will see a Save To Computer button below the HTML content, use this to save your scan to the computer and then if you close the window with command-W this will close the scan with Docuscan, I don't remember wwhether Docuscan+ prompts you at this point to save or not but if you're asked to save then anser appropriately, no document in cloud. On 2 Nov 2013, at 11:53 pm, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: Okay… I assume this would either be accomplished through a save dialogue or in the preferences somewhere? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 2, 2013, at 8:45 AM, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote: Yes, you're right about the Cloud however, you can save to your computer thus the document doesn't stay in the cloud, when you save to your computer and then close the document window then the document disappears. On 2 Nov 2013, at 11:41 pm, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: Dane, I have to agree with Gordon here, I don't have this program but I think how it works is when you scan a document, it is initially sent to the cloud to be converted to text. If this is indeed the case, I can see where he is coming from. If not, my apologies, I'm not exactly well-versed in OCR solutions. I have eyepal, which has since kind of become useless since nobody has come up with a version of X11 for Mavericks yet. Or not that I know of anyway Sent from my iPhone On Nov 2, 2013, at 8:35 AM, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote: Nit picking. I'm using Docuscan+ now so you're worried about security? Then you save your scanned documents to your computer and not in the cloud. On 2 Nov 2013, at 11:20 pm, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: I must point out here that if you use DocuScan Plus, you have no alternative but to use the cloud technologies. There are some, including us, who are a little unsettled regarding security if you’re scanning sensitive material. That is why I have retained, and will still retain, localised solutions such as VueScan and Abbyy FineReader Express. DocuScan Plus is fine for books and other non-critical documents. But when it comes to documents where your personal data is stored, what guarantee is there that the documents you store in the cloud are not visible to others? Nom, No! Definitely super definitely not my cup of tea for secure documents. Kind regards --- Gordon Smith --- gor...@mac-access.net Information Technology Accessibility Consultant; Providing Help Support To Young People With Visual Impairment, plus Braille Transcription services. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your
Security Of Docuscan+
There's one thing I don't particularly like about Docuscan+ and I think this could compremise security a little, once you've logged into your account Docuscan+ remembers your password etc, I think this should be optional as this method allows anyone who is using your computer to just run the application and instantly gain access to your documents data. On 3 Nov 2013, at 12:04 am, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: I see, a little different than I initially imagined. But still good though. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 2, 2013, at 8:59 AM, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote: Okay, here's the procedure I use and perhaps this will illustrate the point I'm making. After you've finished your scan you will see a Save To Computer button below the HTML content, use this to save your scan to the computer and then if you close the window with command-W this will close the scan with Docuscan, I don't remember wwhether Docuscan+ prompts you at this point to save or not but if you're asked to save then anser appropriately, no document in cloud. On 2 Nov 2013, at 11:53 pm, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: Okay… I assume this would either be accomplished through a save dialogue or in the preferences somewhere? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 2, 2013, at 8:45 AM, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote: Yes, you're right about the Cloud however, you can save to your computer thus the document doesn't stay in the cloud, when you save to your computer and then close the document window then the document disappears. On 2 Nov 2013, at 11:41 pm, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: Dane, I have to agree with Gordon here, I don't have this program but I think how it works is when you scan a document, it is initially sent to the cloud to be converted to text. If this is indeed the case, I can see where he is coming from. If not, my apologies, I'm not exactly well-versed in OCR solutions. I have eyepal, which has since kind of become useless since nobody has come up with a version of X11 for Mavericks yet. Or not that I know of anyway Sent from my iPhone On Nov 2, 2013, at 8:35 AM, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote: Nit picking. I'm using Docuscan+ now so you're worried about security? Then you save your scanned documents to your computer and not in the cloud. On 2 Nov 2013, at 11:20 pm, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: I must point out here that if you use DocuScan Plus, you have no alternative but to use the cloud technologies. There are some, including us, who are a little unsettled regarding security if you’re scanning sensitive material. That is why I have retained, and will still retain, localised solutions such as VueScan and Abbyy FineReader Express. DocuScan Plus is fine for books and other non-critical documents. But when it comes to documents where your personal data is stored, what guarantee is there that the documents you store in the cloud are not visible to others? Nom, No! Definitely super definitely not my cup of tea for secure documents. Kind regards --- Gordon Smith --- gor...@mac-access.net Information Technology Accessibility Consultant; Providing Help Support To Young People With Visual Impairment, plus Braille Transcription services. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS
Re: Security Of Docuscan+
That's… Definitely a potential problem as you say. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 2, 2013, at 9:17 AM, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote: There's one thing I don't particularly like about Docuscan+ and I think this could compremise security a little, once you've logged into your account Docuscan+ remembers your password etc, I think this should be optional as this method allows anyone who is using your computer to just run the application and instantly gain access to your documents data. On 3 Nov 2013, at 12:04 am, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: I see, a little different than I initially imagined. But still good though. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 2, 2013, at 8:59 AM, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote: Okay, here's the procedure I use and perhaps this will illustrate the point I'm making. After you've finished your scan you will see a Save To Computer button below the HTML content, use this to save your scan to the computer and then if you close the window with command-W this will close the scan with Docuscan, I don't remember wwhether Docuscan+ prompts you at this point to save or not but if you're asked to save then anser appropriately, no document in cloud. On 2 Nov 2013, at 11:53 pm, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: Okay… I assume this would either be accomplished through a save dialogue or in the preferences somewhere? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 2, 2013, at 8:45 AM, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote: Yes, you're right about the Cloud however, you can save to your computer thus the document doesn't stay in the cloud, when you save to your computer and then close the document window then the document disappears. On 2 Nov 2013, at 11:41 pm, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: Dane, I have to agree with Gordon here, I don't have this program but I think how it works is when you scan a document, it is initially sent to the cloud to be converted to text. If this is indeed the case, I can see where he is coming from. If not, my apologies, I'm not exactly well-versed in OCR solutions. I have eyepal, which has since kind of become useless since nobody has come up with a version of X11 for Mavericks yet. Or not that I know of anyway Sent from my iPhone On Nov 2, 2013, at 8:35 AM, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote: Nit picking. I'm using Docuscan+ now so you're worried about security? Then you save your scanned documents to your computer and not in the cloud. On 2 Nov 2013, at 11:20 pm, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: I must point out here that if you use DocuScan Plus, you have no alternative but to use the cloud technologies. There are some, including us, who are a little unsettled regarding security if you’re scanning sensitive material. That is why I have retained, and will still retain, localised solutions such as VueScan and Abbyy FineReader Express. DocuScan Plus is fine for books and other non-critical documents. But when it comes to documents where your personal data is stored, what guarantee is there that the documents you store in the cloud are not visible to others? Nom, No! Definitely super definitely not my cup of tea for secure documents. Kind regards --- Gordon Smith --- gor...@mac-access.net Information Technology Accessibility Consultant; Providing Help Support To Young People With Visual Impairment, plus Braille Transcription services. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive:
Re: Is there a way to make 2 boot disks via partitions?
Keep in mind that if you want to do this, Sarah, you’re actually going to need a 4 partition scheme. 1 for Mountain Lion, one for Mavericks, one for ML Recovery, and one for Mavericks recovery. That’s partly why disk utility made things look really strange. Chris. On Nov 2, 2013, at 1:07 AM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: Hello to my mac gurus. I have an odd question for you all. I have a friend who wants to do this. He already has a ML partition on a 32 gig flash drive. My thinking is he can make another partition on said drive and create another boot partition with mavericks. We tried to do this but ended up removing all the partitions and starting over. When we went to disk utility and clicked add partition it added one, but made it 16 mb. We could not change this to 16 gigs no matter what we did including trying to type gb. Next we created 2 partitions and called one 10.8.5 j and one 10.9. He is still on ML so we ran lion disk maker and it erased all of the partitions on the volume and made it 1 big 32 gig partition with 10.8.5 on it. Is there a way to preserve the 10.8l5 boot disk and create a mavericks install boot disk using the terminal command, and would the terminal command work with the ML thing so maybe we could do both partitions? Thanks and be blessed. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Is there a way to make 2 boot disks via partitions?
Not exactly. I don't want to install to the drive. I want to clone like I can with carbon copy clonerthe installest.dmg to make the bootable installer in the first place. On Nov 2, 2013, at 6:58, Christopher Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: Keep in mind that if you want to do this, Sarah, you’re actually going to need a 4 partition scheme. 1 for Mountain Lion, one for Mavericks, one for ML Recovery, and one for Mavericks recovery. That’s partly why disk utility made things look really strange. Chris. On Nov 2, 2013, at 1:07 AM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: Hello to my mac gurus. I have an odd question for you all. I have a friend who wants to do this. He already has a ML partition on a 32 gig flash drive. My thinking is he can make another partition on said drive and create another boot partition with mavericks. We tried to do this but ended up removing all the partitions and starting over. When we went to disk utility and clicked add partition it added one, but made it 16 mb. We could not change this to 16 gigs no matter what we did including trying to type gb. Next we created 2 partitions and called one 10.8.5 j and one 10.9. He is still on ML so we ran lion disk maker and it erased all of the partitions on the volume and made it 1 big 32 gig partition with 10.8.5 on it. Is there a way to preserve the 10.8l5 boot disk and create a mavericks install boot disk using the terminal command, and would the terminal command work with the ML thing so maybe we could do both partitions? Thanks and be blessed. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Is there a way to make 2 boot disks via partitions?
oh, ok, sorry, I misunderstood. Chris. On Nov 2, 2013, at 11:26 AM, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: Not exactly. I don't want to install to the drive. I want to clone like I can with carbon copy clonerthe installest.dmg to make the bootable installer in the first place. On Nov 2, 2013, at 6:58, Christopher Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: Keep in mind that if you want to do this, Sarah, you’re actually going to need a 4 partition scheme. 1 for Mountain Lion, one for Mavericks, one for ML Recovery, and one for Mavericks recovery. That’s partly why disk utility made things look really strange. Chris. On Nov 2, 2013, at 1:07 AM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: Hello to my mac gurus. I have an odd question for you all. I have a friend who wants to do this. He already has a ML partition on a 32 gig flash drive. My thinking is he can make another partition on said drive and create another boot partition with mavericks. We tried to do this but ended up removing all the partitions and starting over. When we went to disk utility and clicked add partition it added one, but made it 16 mb. We could not change this to 16 gigs no matter what we did including trying to type gb. Next we created 2 partitions and called one 10.8.5 j and one 10.9. He is still on ML so we ran lion disk maker and it erased all of the partitions on the volume and made it 1 big 32 gig partition with 10.8.5 on it. Is there a way to preserve the 10.8l5 boot disk and create a mavericks install boot disk using the terminal command, and would the terminal command work with the ML thing so maybe we could do both partitions? Thanks and be blessed. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive:
Re: DocuScan Plus And The Cloud
Hello Josh I sincerely hope this isn’t an issue of “Sides”. It is not a personal battleground, it’s just intended to be a fair discussion with both sides hearing the other out. If we’re going to start arguing about things like this rather than discussing, we may as well give it up as a bad job. I mean no personal disrespect to anybody. I’m simply making the generic point about cloud storage. Kind regards --- Gordon Smith --- gor...@mac-access.net Information Technology Accessibility Consultant; Providing Help Support To Young People LivingWith Visual Impairment, plus Braille Transcription services. On 2 Nov 2013, at 12:57, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: I don't mean to take sides, but I have to agree, I personally think this is one of the issues with the iCloud Keychain service. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: DocuScan Plus And The Cloud
Hello Dane But you’re still missing the crux issue here. The OCR is done in the cloud and, therefore, who is to know where your document goes before it reaches your computer? I acknowledge what you’re saying, this is not a battle. Maybe, and I sincerely hope, I am being over-cautious. But I’d rather be that way than have my security compromised either professionally or personally speaking. I mean no disrespect to the authors of the software, nor to anybody who uses it. Kind regards --- Gordon Smith --- gor...@mac-access.net Information Technology Accessibility Consultant; Providing Help Support To Young People LivingWith Visual Impairment, plus Braille Transcription services. On 2 Nov 2013, at 12:59, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote: Okay, here's the procedure I use and perhaps this will illustrate the point I'm making. After you've finished your scan you will see a Save To Computer button below the HTML content, use this to save your scan to the computer and then if you close the window with command-W this will close the scan with Docuscan, I don't remember wwhether Docuscan+ prompts you at this point to save or not but if you're asked to save then anser appropriately, no document in cloud. On 2 Nov 2013, at 11:53 pm, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: Okay… I assume this would either be accomplished through a save dialogue or in the preferences somewhere? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 2, 2013, at 8:45 AM, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote: Yes, you're right about the Cloud however, you can save to your computer thus the document doesn't stay in the cloud, when you save to your computer and then close the document window then the document disappears. On 2 Nov 2013, at 11:41 pm, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: Dane, I have to agree with Gordon here, I don't have this program but I think how it works is when you scan a document, it is initially sent to the cloud to be converted to text. If this is indeed the case, I can see where he is coming from. If not, my apologies, I'm not exactly well-versed in OCR solutions. I have eyepal, which has since kind of become useless since nobody has come up with a version of X11 for Mavericks yet. Or not that I know of anyway Sent from my iPhone On Nov 2, 2013, at 8:35 AM, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote: Nit picking. I'm using Docuscan+ now so you're worried about security? Then you save your scanned documents to your computer and not in the cloud. On 2 Nov 2013, at 11:20 pm, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: I must point out here that if you use DocuScan Plus, you have no alternative but to use the cloud technologies. There are some, including us, who are a little unsettled regarding security if you’re scanning sensitive material. That is why I have retained, and will still retain, localised solutions such as VueScan and Abbyy FineReader Express. DocuScan Plus is fine for books and other non-critical documents. But when it comes to documents where your personal data is stored, what guarantee is there that the documents you store in the cloud are not visible to others? Nom, No! Definitely super definitely not my cup of tea for secure documents. Kind regards --- Gordon Smith --- gor...@mac-access.net Information Technology Accessibility Consultant; Providing Help Support To Young People With Visual Impairment, plus Braille Transcription services. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive:
Re: Security Of Docuscan+
This is a very valid point as well. To be honest the entire concept worries me. As you rightly say who is to know who may or may not have access to your computer with or without your knowledge. Kind regards --- Gordon Smith --- gor...@mac-access.net Information Technology Accessibility Consultant; Providing Help Support To Young People LivingWith Visual Impairment, plus Braille Transcription services. On 2 Nov 2013, at 13:17, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote: There's one thing I don't particularly like about Docuscan+ and I think this could compremise security a little, once you've logged into your account Docuscan+ remembers your password etc, I think this should be optional as this method allows anyone who is using your computer to just run the application and instantly gain access to your documents data. On 3 Nov 2013, at 12:04 am, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: I see, a little different than I initially imagined. But still good though. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 2, 2013, at 8:59 AM, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote: Okay, here's the procedure I use and perhaps this will illustrate the point I'm making. After you've finished your scan you will see a Save To Computer button below the HTML content, use this to save your scan to the computer and then if you close the window with command-W this will close the scan with Docuscan, I don't remember wwhether Docuscan+ prompts you at this point to save or not but if you're asked to save then anser appropriately, no document in cloud. On 2 Nov 2013, at 11:53 pm, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: Okay… I assume this would either be accomplished through a save dialogue or in the preferences somewhere? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 2, 2013, at 8:45 AM, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote: Yes, you're right about the Cloud however, you can save to your computer thus the document doesn't stay in the cloud, when you save to your computer and then close the document window then the document disappears. On 2 Nov 2013, at 11:41 pm, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: Dane, I have to agree with Gordon here, I don't have this program but I think how it works is when you scan a document, it is initially sent to the cloud to be converted to text. If this is indeed the case, I can see where he is coming from. If not, my apologies, I'm not exactly well-versed in OCR solutions. I have eyepal, which has since kind of become useless since nobody has come up with a version of X11 for Mavericks yet. Or not that I know of anyway Sent from my iPhone On Nov 2, 2013, at 8:35 AM, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote: Nit picking. I'm using Docuscan+ now so you're worried about security? Then you save your scanned documents to your computer and not in the cloud. On 2 Nov 2013, at 11:20 pm, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: I must point out here that if you use DocuScan Plus, you have no alternative but to use the cloud technologies. There are some, including us, who are a little unsettled regarding security if you’re scanning sensitive material. That is why I have retained, and will still retain, localised solutions such as VueScan and Abbyy FineReader Express. DocuScan Plus is fine for books and other non-critical documents. But when it comes to documents where your personal data is stored, what guarantee is there that the documents you store in the cloud are not visible to others? Nom, No! Definitely super definitely not my cup of tea for secure documents. Kind regards --- Gordon Smith --- gor...@mac-access.net Information Technology Accessibility Consultant; Providing Help Support To Young People With Visual Impairment, plus Braille Transcription services. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia
Re: DocuScan Plus And The Cloud
I echo the below. On 3 Nov 2013, at 4:56 am, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello Josh I sincerely hope this isn’t an issue of “Sides”. It is not a personal battleground, it’s just intended to be a fair discussion with both sides hearing the other out. If we’re going to start arguing about things like this rather than discussing, we may as well give it up as a bad job. I mean no personal disrespect to anybody. I’m simply making the generic point about cloud storage. Kind regards --- Gordon Smith --- gor...@mac-access.net Information Technology Accessibility Consultant; Providing Help Support To Young People LivingWith Visual Impairment, plus Braille Transcription services. On 2 Nov 2013, at 12:57, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: I don't mean to take sides, but I have to agree, I personally think this is one of the issues with the iCloud Keychain service. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: DocuScan Plus And The Cloud
I hope that in time more is done on the security of the software, some sort of encryption would be nice for example which touches on some of the points you're making below. I detailed a security flaw in an earlier message which I hope is fixed. Another thing I found when playing more with the Docuscan+ software a few hours ago, when a scan is completed it may be saved to a file called Untitled without your knowledge so - unless you go searching for that file in the Manage Documents function - and delete it then the file is still up on the server. On 3 Nov 2013, at 5:01 am, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello Dane But you’re still missing the crux issue here. The OCR is done in the cloud and, therefore, who is to know where your document goes before it reaches your computer? I acknowledge what you’re saying, this is not a battle. Maybe, and I sincerely hope, I am being over-cautious. But I’d rather be that way than have my security compromised either professionally or personally speaking. I mean no disrespect to the authors of the software, nor to anybody who uses it. Kind regards --- Gordon Smith --- gor...@mac-access.net Information Technology Accessibility Consultant; Providing Help Support To Young People LivingWith Visual Impairment, plus Braille Transcription services. On 2 Nov 2013, at 12:59, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote: Okay, here's the procedure I use and perhaps this will illustrate the point I'm making. After you've finished your scan you will see a Save To Computer button below the HTML content, use this to save your scan to the computer and then if you close the window with command-W this will close the scan with Docuscan, I don't remember wwhether Docuscan+ prompts you at this point to save or not but if you're asked to save then anser appropriately, no document in cloud. On 2 Nov 2013, at 11:53 pm, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: Okay… I assume this would either be accomplished through a save dialogue or in the preferences somewhere? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 2, 2013, at 8:45 AM, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote: Yes, you're right about the Cloud however, you can save to your computer thus the document doesn't stay in the cloud, when you save to your computer and then close the document window then the document disappears. On 2 Nov 2013, at 11:41 pm, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: Dane, I have to agree with Gordon here, I don't have this program but I think how it works is when you scan a document, it is initially sent to the cloud to be converted to text. If this is indeed the case, I can see where he is coming from. If not, my apologies, I'm not exactly well-versed in OCR solutions. I have eyepal, which has since kind of become useless since nobody has come up with a version of X11 for Mavericks yet. Or not that I know of anyway Sent from my iPhone On Nov 2, 2013, at 8:35 AM, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote: Nit picking. I'm using Docuscan+ now so you're worried about security? Then you save your scanned documents to your computer and not in the cloud. On 2 Nov 2013, at 11:20 pm, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: I must point out here that if you use DocuScan Plus, you have no alternative but to use the cloud technologies. There are some, including us, who are a little unsettled regarding security if you’re scanning sensitive material. That is why I have retained, and will still retain, localised solutions such as VueScan and Abbyy FineReader Express. DocuScan Plus is fine for books and other non-critical documents. But when it comes to documents where your personal data is stored, what guarantee is there that the documents you store in the cloud are not visible to others? Nom, No! Definitely super definitely not my cup of tea for secure documents. Kind regards --- Gordon Smith --- gor...@mac-access.net Information Technology Accessibility Consultant; Providing Help Support To Young People With Visual Impairment, plus Braille Transcription services. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility
XLD under Mavericks
Hi all Now that things have settled down under Mavericks, I thought I’d share one more observation with the group. As many here do, I prefer to use XLD even though it does not have an ideal user interface, to rip my Cd’s. This is because it does a much much better job at ripping disks than iTunes does, and I have yet to find a Mac alternative to XLD which has the same functionality. For all its little quirks, XLD is still a marvellous application and let us not forget that it is developed and distributed free of charge. Anyway, to my point. XLD under the final public build of Mavericks is like lightening on my MacBook Air, and that is using an Apple Superdrive as the source. However, if I use a virtual CDRW drive, as is my preference, XLD is, for some reason, quite a bit slower when it comes to the ripping of uncompressed formats. This is strange actually, but true. I use uncompressed FLAC as my preferred ripping format so as to preserve the original quality. yet if I rip as compressed tracks, MP3 or M4A ACC+ for example, it’s much faster. Has anybody else noticed this? Kind regards --- Gordon Smith --- gor...@mac-access.net Information Technology Accessibility Consultant; Providing Help Support To Young People LivingWith Visual Impairment, plus Braille Transcription services. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: XLD under Mavericks
Hello Gordon, I'm not sure if I understand you right. But a virtual drive is across a network. Is this wireless or hard wired? Or have you effectively ripped the CD to a virtual drive. Either way you have data activity that the is bottle necking somewhere. If wireless, hardwire it. If you are thrashing the SSD by lifting off the SSD into RAM and back on to SSD, poor disk. Gena Georgina Joyce Applied Psychologist Training and Coaching. Because individuals of groups matter! On 2 Nov 2013, at 19:28, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Hi all Now that things have settled down under Mavericks, I thought I’d share one more observation with the group. As many here do, I prefer to use XLD even though it does not have an ideal user interface, to rip my Cd’s. This is because it does a much much better job at ripping disks than iTunes does, and I have yet to find a Mac alternative to XLD which has the same functionality. For all its little quirks, XLD is still a marvellous application and let us not forget that it is developed and distributed free of charge. Anyway, to my point. XLD under the final public build of Mavericks is like lightening on my MacBook Air, and that is using an Apple Superdrive as the source. However, if I use a virtual CDRW drive, as is my preference, XLD is, for some reason, quite a bit slower when it comes to the ripping of uncompressed formats. This is strange actually, but true. I use uncompressed FLAC as my preferred ripping format so as to preserve the original quality. yet if I rip as compressed tracks, MP3 or M4A ACC+ for example, it’s much faster. Has anybody else noticed this? Kind regards --- Gordon Smith --- gor...@mac-access.net Information Technology Accessibility Consultant; Providing Help Support To Young People LivingWith Visual Impairment, plus Braille Transcription services. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
some help navigating a table on a website please?
When I go to www.tomwaterhouse.com I go to the link Melbourne Cup. When this page loads there's a table with the Melbourne Cup field and the prices of each horse. I cannot work out how to find it, let alone read it. I have a Macbook Pro, running whatever is before Maverick. Any help would be fabulous! Hopefully fairly simplified steps with your explanation please! Peter - Original Message - From: Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Date: Saturday, November 2, 2013 11:23 pm Subject: Re: DocuScan Plus And The Cloud Okay... I assume this would either be accomplished through a save dialogue or in the preferences somewhere? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 2, 2013, at 8:45 AM, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote: Yes, you're right about the Cloud however, you can save to your computer thus the document doesn't stay in the cloud, when you save to your computer and then close the document window then the document disappears. On 2 Nov 2013, at 11:41 pm, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: Dane, I have to agree with Gordon here, I don't have this program but I think how it works is when you scan a document, it is initially sent to the cloud to be converted to text. If this is indeed the case, I can see where he is coming from. If not, my apologies, I'm not exactly well-versed in OCR solutions. I have eyepal, which has since kind of become useless since nobody has come up with a version of X11 for Mavericks yet. Or not that I know of anyway Sent from my iPhone On Nov 2, 2013, at 8:35 AM, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote: Nit picking. I'm using Docuscan+ now so you're worried about security? Then you save your scanned documents to your computer and not in the cloud. On 2 Nov 2013, at 11:20 pm, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: I must point out here that if you use DocuScan Plus, you have no alternative but to use the cloud technologies. There are some, including us, who are a little unsettled regarding security if you're scanning sensitive material. That is why I have retained, and will still retain, localised solutions such as VueScan and Abbyy FineReader Express. DocuScan Plus is fine for books and other non-critical documents. But when it comes to documents where your personal data is stored, what guarantee is there that the documents you store in the cloud are not visible to others? Nom, No! Definitely super definitely not my cup of tea for secure documents. Kind regards --- Gordon Smith --- gor...@mac-access.net Information Technology Accessibility Consultant; Providing Help Support To Young People With Visual Impairment, plus Braille Transcription services. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ ** Dane Trethowan Skype: greatdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences
Safari 6.1 bug?
I've just upgraded to Safari 6.1 and I wonder if anyone else has struck the same problem I'm encountering. Now, when I open a web page and ask for headings, Safari only announces one or two headings, even though I know there are more. For example, a Google search results page now announces only two headings, when I know there should be a dozen or so. After encountering this poblem, I've tested by trying Safari on another machine. Running the old version of Safari, headings announce fine. As soon as I upgraded to version 6.1, they no longer announced properly. Anyone have any idea how to fix this problem? And if not, how easy is it to revert to the previous version of Safari? (I'm running OSX Lion, 10.7.5). Thanks, Fred --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Safari 6.1 bug?
Yes, I am having the same exact problem, and encounter this header bug when using the voiceover rotor but once I exit the rotor and use quick nag I can navigate down through the headers. This is yet another very pathetic bug on Apple's part and either Voiceover gets little to no testing before any releases or the testers testing voiceover are morons. On Nov 2, 2013, at 10:27 PM, Fred Smith snuc...@gmail.com wrote: I've just upgraded to Safari 6.1 and I wonder if anyone else has struck the same problem I'm encountering. Now, when I open a web page and ask for headings, Safari only announces one or two headings, even though I know there are more. For example, a Google search results page now announces only two headings, when I know there should be a dozen or so. After encountering this poblem, I've tested by trying Safari on another machine. Running the old version of Safari, headings announce fine. As soon as I upgraded to version 6.1, they no longer announced properly. Anyone have any idea how to fix this problem? And if not, how easy is it to revert to the previous version of Safari? (I'm running OSX Lion, 10.7.5). Thanks, Fred --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
