Re: I wonder how I"m going to execute this project

[Sarah k Alawami]

Well, I plan on hopefully if I can come up with a decent topic I can cover in 
no less then 30 pages, plan to write my synopsis, and no I uninstalled open 
office 3 years ago when it crashed. . As for the graphics and stuff I don’t yet 
know what they have to look like size wise as I’m writing in a format I have 
never even heard of. 

I’m not sure what the professor will want the file format in, probably pdf and 
that I know I can do via text edit I just hope my formatting does not go all 
screwy. No thanks I will not write in html. I forgot half the stuff I heard 
almost 10 years ago and I’m not about to relearn it just to get a 30 page paper 
done in 14 weeks. lol!

Tc and thanks again for the ideas. I will consider it.
On Nov 8, 2013, at 6:32 PM, Travis Siegel  wrote:

> Heck, I know this won't help, but I'd write the whole thing in html, then 
> copy and paste the finished product into text edit, save as an rtf, then (if 
> required) save as a pdf as well.  Thhat would solve the problem with 
> formatting quite nicely, and you'd be assured of getting everything exactly 
> where you want it.  Of course, if you're not an html person, this may be a 
> bit of a task.  On the other hand, text edit is quite capable of handling 
> embeded graphics, as long as you save in rtfd format while working on it.  
> When all complete, copy and paste the whole thing into open office, then save 
> as a word document.  That'll do the job quite nicely.
> Of course, this assumes you have an osx version of open office, and that you 
> are familiar with it's use, so neither solution is a perfect remedy, but it 
> may offer you some ideas you can pull from to come up with a procedure that 
> works for you.
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Re: Looking for an accessible FTP server that will run under OS x Mavericks.

[Sarah k Alawami]

Yeah I have the command as I use the ftp server for a friend of mine when it’s 
time to give him some stuff. It works pretty nice and I can watch my speeds 
through the activity monitor.

Take care.
On Nov 8, 2013, at 6:37 PM, Travis Siegel  wrote:

> You realize there is an ftp server already built-in to osx right?  It's not 
> turned on by default, but that's fixable.  Of course, to my knowledge, it 
> doesn't support anonymous logins, so there is that to consider.  If you want 
> something more full featured, ncftpd is free for 3 or less simultaneous 
> users, so you may want to give that a try as well.  I don't know if it's been 
> updated to mavericks yet, but I'm sure it will be soon.
> hth.
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Re: Looking for an accessible FTP server that will run under OS x Mavericks.

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You realize there is an ftp server already built-in to osx right?   
It's not turned on by default, but that's fixable.  Of course, to my  
knowledge, it doesn't support anonymous logins, so there is that to  
consider.  If you want something more full featured, ncftpd is free  
for 3 or less simultaneous users, so you may want to give that a try  
as well.  I don't know if it's been updated to mavericks yet, but I'm  
sure it will be soon.

hth.
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Re: I wonder how I"m going to execute this project

[Travis Siegel]

Heck, I know this won't help, but I'd write the whole thing in html,  
then copy and paste the finished product into text edit, save as an  
rtf, then (if required) save as a pdf as well.  Thhat would solve the  
problem with formatting quite nicely, and you'd be assured of getting  
everything exactly where you want it.  Of course, if you're not an  
html person, this may be a bit of a task.  On the other hand, text  
edit is quite capable of handling embeded graphics, as long as you  
save in rtfd format while working on it.  When all complete, copy and  
paste the whole thing into open office, then save as a word document.   
That'll do the job quite nicely.
Of course, this assumes you have an osx version of open office, and  
that you are familiar with it's use, so neither solution is a perfect  
remedy, but it may offer you some ideas you can pull from to come up  
with a procedure that works for you.

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Song Exporter Pro iOS app for music transfer back to your computer is free today

[Esther]

Hi All,
I don't usually post about apps which have key unlabeled buttons, but this one 
seems useful for those of you who may need to get music tracks out of your 
iPhone, iPod Touch, or iPad music library back onto your computer.  This app is 
designed to let you move song tracks from your iTunes music library to the 
downloads folder of a computer on the same Wi-Fi network.  The name is "Song 
Exporter Pro", and it is free today at the following App Store URL:
• Song Exporter Pro (free today, usually $0.99) by Rocha Software
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/song-exporter-pro/id421646421?mt=8

The interface is very simple, but the three buttons on the main screen are 
unlabeled.  If you flick to them, they are, in order: Sharing (lets you select 
songs to share or stop sharing),  Info (identifies current version, accesses 
detailed help info, and resumes sharing, along with display of other apps and a 
tell friend option), and Settings (lets you optionally specify a port or turn 
on authentication requirements).  So you can sort out the labeling issues by 
simply flicking to each button in sequence, doing the two-finger double tap and 
hold gesture to custom label an element for VoiceOver, and then, after hearing 
the tri-tone and getting the "Label Element" dialogue to come up, just type in 
"Sharing" (or other label) and double tap the "Done" button on the keyboard (or 
navigate to the "Save" button in the dialogue window and activate it).

This app can be useful in circumstances where you've had a computer failure and 
you no longer have access to your iTunes music library, because it provides a 
way to let you export some or all of your music library song tracks to the 
Downloads directory of another computer on the same Wi-Fi network.  I'm posting 
this specifically in partial response to David Griffiths's comment of a couple 
of weeks ago that he couldn't recover music tracks purchased from the iTunes 
Store that are on his iPhone since the computer he syncs the device to had 
died.  In fact, a few different replies outlined how he could recover past 
iTunes purchases (and not just music), but for those of you who want minimal 
interaction with iTunes in any form, this app may be a useful alternative.  It 
is not designed to recover apps, or to allow you to backup your device, 
contacts, etc., or any other things you can do with iTunes or with dedicated 
recovery software. 

I checked that I was able to download song tracks from another iOS device this 
way, following the instructions under the "Help" information (one of the button 
options under the second button, that I labeled "Info").  You can also read 
most of this information at the developer's web site:
http://www.rochasoftware.com/SongExporter/

Their instructions under "3) How can I transfer a large number of songs from my 
device to my computer (like, for instance, all the songs in my device), instead 
of downloading one by one?" worked for me, using Safari on my Mac, following 
the exact keyboard shortcuts to select all listed songs, copy the list, bring 
up the Safari Downloads window with Command-Option-L, and then paste the list 
into the window to start downloading.

A couple of comments: when I selected all, copied, and pasted into the 
Downloads window following their instructions, VoiceOver did not update the 
information content in the Downloads window as the downloads proceeded.  But if 
you open a Finder window to your Safari Downloads directory, all the songs show 
up.  I didn't try this with a huge number of songs, so I don't know how long it 
takes.

This process can transfer all songs, regardless of whether they were purchased 
from the iTunes Store (with or without DRM), or not. They just have to show up 
in your Music app as songs. It doesn't transfer other media types.  However, 
since most recent iTunes purchases don't come with DRM, I could QuickLook the 
tracks (e.g., press space bar to start them playing from Finder) to check they 
came across correctly.

It seems as though an advantage of this app is that you can transfer the music 
tracks to either a friend's computer, if you've completely crashed your own, 
or, if you are using a computer with more limited disk space (a MacBook Air), 
you can temporarily change your Safari Downloads folder location (under the 
"General" tab in Preferences; bring up Preferences for Safari with 
Command-comma, and focus should be on the General tab by default; you can set 
the location when you VO-space on the pop up menu button following "Save 
downloaded files to" and switch from "Downloads" to "Other…" point to an 
external drive that is attached, and use all the Finder shortcuts to choose the 
location in the dialogue window. Command-Shift-C shows all drives attached to 
your Computer, and you can navigate to a drive or its folders just as you can 
in Finder, or you can use the Command-Shift-G "Go to folder" shortcut to type 
in a specific path to a folder, including paths that i

Re: Express Talk VOIP Software Phone

[Dane Trethowan]

You're thinking along the right lines.

On 9 Nov 2013, at 4:28 am, Gordon Smith  wrote:

> Actually, I've been thinking about this for a while.  I'm wondering whether 
> we could set up another extension on our multi-user VOIP account, and set 
> calls to go to that extension when I switch them.  Often the phone rings and 
> I don't have the Fritz! Phone with me.  I have the Senheizsth MX500 Bluetooth 
> headses which, I think, has an in-built microprone.  So maybe I could do 
> something that way.
> Anyway, just something I'm thinking about.  I'm not buying software until I'm 
> sure about things.
> 
> Kind Regards
> Gordon Smith
> Information Technology Accessibility consultant
> Providing Support For Young People Living With Sight Loss:  Advice On 
> Accessible Information Technologies And Braille Transcription Services.
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Dane Trethowan  To: OS X & iOS Accessibility  Date sent: Fri, 8 Nov 2013 11:47:05 +1100
> Subject: Express Talk VOIP Software Phone
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from Dane's iPhone +613400494862
> Hi!
> 
> I just managed to get the Express Talk App working properly, I've had this 
> App installed on the Mac for quite some time - bought it 3 years ago I think 
> it was.
> 
> Up until yesterday I was having some audio issues with the App which have now 
> thankfully all been sorted thanks to "Google" and the excellent support 
> guides that my VOIP provider have made available.
> 
> There's much to be said for Express Talk including its accessibility though 
> some technical knowledge e may be required to set up your VOIP phone 
> depending on the system you plan to use.
> 
> I'm using the Business edition of the software which is feature packed, you 
> can select from multiple audio inputs and outputs to customise your audio and 
> the software has a recording facility which works very well, calls are 
> recorded in wave format which can be played with an audio player such as 
> iTunes or VLC.
> 
> Express Talk offers the user the ability to configure multiple keyboard 
> shortcuts to control various aspects of the phone and - once again - the 
> configuration of these shortcuts is fully accessible through the Express Talk 
> preferences.
> 
> The home Edition of Express talk - whilst having many of the features of the 
> business edition locked - is available free of charge, registration of the 
> Business Edition costs $49.00
> 
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Re: Using VIP, can you help?

[Chris H]

That's sure weird indeed. I use pop if that helps. I also have an iCloud 
account. I checked this and there was nothing in there.


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On 08/11/2013 18:09, Zachary Kline wrote:

Chris,
It is possible that Gmail weirdness is at fault. Gmail is somewhat notorious 
for a non-standard mail server implementation. In other words, just because 
Mail says you have an unread message doesn’t mean you do.
Best,
Zack.
On Nov 8, 2013, at 9:50 AM, Chris H  wrote:


Hello everyone, this is Chris here.
Please can you try and help?
I think I have discovered a bug with the VIP feature in Mail.
1. I open Mail.
2. I double tap on VIP in my list of mailboxes. Next to that I have 1 unread 
message.
3. When I open the mailbox, the list is empty.
So where is the 1 unread message exactly coming from?
This is on an iPhone 4s running 7.0.3.
Any help greatly appreciated.
Thank you so much.

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Re: Using VIP, can you help?

[Zachary Kline]

Chris,
It is possible that Gmail weirdness is at fault. Gmail is somewhat notorious 
for a non-standard mail server implementation. In other words, just because 
Mail says you have an unread message doesn’t mean you do.
Best,
Zack.
On Nov 8, 2013, at 9:50 AM, Chris H  wrote:

> Hello everyone, this is Chris here.
> Please can you try and help?
> I think I have discovered a bug with the VIP feature in Mail.
> 1. I open Mail.
> 2. I double tap on VIP in my list of mailboxes. Next to that I have 1 unread 
> message.
> 3. When I open the mailbox, the list is empty.
> So where is the 1 unread message exactly coming from?
> This is on an iPhone 4s running 7.0.3.
> Any help greatly appreciated.
> Thank you so much.
> 
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Using VIP, can you help?

[Chris H]

Hello everyone, this is Chris here.
Please can you try and help?
I think I have discovered a bug with the VIP feature in Mail.
1. I open Mail.
2. I double tap on VIP in my list of mailboxes. Next to that I have 1 
unread message.

3. When I open the mailbox, the list is empty.
So where is the 1 unread message exactly coming from?
This is on an iPhone 4s running 7.0.3.
Any help greatly appreciated.
Thank you so much.

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re: Express Talk VOIP Software Phone

[Gordon Smith]

 Actually, I've been thinking about this for a while.  I'm 
wondering whether we could set up another extension on our 
multi-user VOIP account, and set calls to go to that extension 
when I switch them.  Often the phone rings and I don't have the 
Fritz! Phone with me.  I have the Senheizsth MX500 Bluetooth 
headses which, I think, has an in-built microprone.  So maybe I 
could do something that way.
 Anyway, just something I'm thinking about.  I'm not buying 
software until I'm sure about things.


 Kind Regards
 Gordon Smith
 Information Technology Accessibility consultant
 Providing Support For Young People Living With Sight Loss:  
Advice On Accessible Information Technologies And Braille 
Transcription Services.



- Original Message -
From: Dane Trethowan I just managed to get the Express Talk App working properly, I've 
had this App installed on the Mac for quite some time - bought it 
3 years ago I think it was.


Up until yesterday I was having some audio issues with the App 
which have now thankfully all been sorted thanks to "Google" and 
the excellent support guides that my VOIP provider have made 
available.


There's much to be said for Express Talk including its 
accessibility though some technical knowledge e may be required 
to set up your VOIP phone depending on the system you plan to 
use.


I'm using the Business edition of the software which is feature 
packed, you can select from multiple audio inputs and outputs to 
customise your audio and the software has a recording facility 
which works very well, calls are recorded in wave format which 
can be played with an audio player such as iTunes or VLC.


Express Talk offers the user the ability to configure multiple 
keyboard shortcuts to control various aspects of the phone and - 
once again - the configuration of these shortcuts is fully 
accessible through the Express Talk preferences.


The home Edition of Express talk - whilst having many of the 
features of the business edition locked - is available free of 
charge, registration of the Business Edition costs $49.00



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RE: Beyond voice over basics

[David Griffith]

No I mean command D for duplicate file.
I use this all the time.


David Griffith

-Original Message-
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[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Josh Gregory
Sent: 08 November 2013 11:23
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Beyond voice over basics

For copying, think you mean command eC.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 8, 2013, at 6:16 AM, "David Griffith" 
wrote:
> 
> I am afraid there is a big gap in the market for intermediate to advanced
> uses of Voiceover.
> 
> Frankly lists of this sort are as good a place to start as any, along with
> Apple Vis as a good reference point.
> 
> If you are wanting to increase your proficiency with Office tools then Ann
> Robinson on this list has helped many with training over Skype at
apparently
> reasonable rates I believe.
> 
> For myself, on the Mac, I stick to TextEdit and Siri for the time being.
> For what it is worth here is how I set about things.
> 
> I have a blank Microsoft Word document on my iMac called blank.doc.
> To start work I locate this document and press command D to copy it.
> On the blank copy.doc I press enter and then dictate with siri a new
> filename.
> I then open it and start dictating my text. Probably a bit clunky but
works
> for me and I find it a lot easier than opening TextEdit and navigating
> through the iCloud stuff etc.
> I also find personally that setting pronunciation to all whilst writing on
> the Mac prevents many formatting errors.
> 
> This is great for document creation but TextEdit will not have the advance
> editing and formatting tools of a full blown Word Processor.
> 
> I cannot advise on advance tools such as indexing, table of content
wizards
> and text analysis  as I am afraid I still do these on a Windows platform.
> If anybody can tell you how to do this on the Mac platform I too would be
> interested.
> Apparently Pages under Mavericks can now provide Voiceover feedback on
> tables  though which is a good advance so I suspect that Pages under
> mavericks is now  important for a Mac student providing capabilities like
> mail merge are not required.
> 
> David Griffith.
> 
> .
> 
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> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Ian Harrison
> Sent: 08 November 2013 09:36
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> Subject: Beyond voice over basics
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>
> Hi listers,
> 
> I am hoping you can point me towards detailed guides or tutorials that
will
> help me develop a more advanced capability in using voice over on both the
> mac and in IOS.
> 
> I am hoping to start a degree next year and I suspect I will need to be
much
> better than I am now. I currently use a bluetooth keyboard on the mac but
> have not yet paired one with my iphone. I've learned enough shortcuts to
get
> around but see that many other listers use far more advanced techniques
when
> it comes to text searching and editing and using the web.
> 
> I am hoping to use the time I have to become much more proficient,
> especially when away from home or using unfamiliar software.
> 
> Thanks for any thoughts
> 
> Ian
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Re: Beyond voice over basics

[Josh Gregory]

For copying, think you mean command eC.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 8, 2013, at 6:16 AM, "David Griffith"  
> wrote:
> 
> I am afraid there is a big gap in the market for intermediate to advanced
> uses of Voiceover.
> 
> Frankly lists of this sort are as good a place to start as any, along with
> Apple Vis as a good reference point.
> 
> If you are wanting to increase your proficiency with Office tools then Ann
> Robinson on this list has helped many with training over Skype at apparently
> reasonable rates I believe.
> 
> For myself, on the Mac, I stick to TextEdit and Siri for the time being.
> For what it is worth here is how I set about things.
> 
> I have a blank Microsoft Word document on my iMac called blank.doc.
> To start work I locate this document and press command D to copy it.
> On the blank copy.doc I press enter and then dictate with siri a new
> filename.
> I then open it and start dictating my text. Probably a bit clunky but works
> for me and I find it a lot easier than opening TextEdit and navigating
> through the iCloud stuff etc.
> I also find personally that setting pronunciation to all whilst writing on
> the Mac prevents many formatting errors.
> 
> This is great for document creation but TextEdit will not have the advance
> editing and formatting tools of a full blown Word Processor.
> 
> I cannot advise on advance tools such as indexing, table of content wizards
> and text analysis  as I am afraid I still do these on a Windows platform.
> If anybody can tell you how to do this on the Mac platform I too would be
> interested.
> Apparently Pages under Mavericks can now provide Voiceover feedback on
> tables  though which is a good advance so I suspect that Pages under
> mavericks is now  important for a Mac student providing capabilities like
> mail merge are not required.
> 
> David Griffith.
> 
> .
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Ian Harrison
> Sent: 08 November 2013 09:36
> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Beyond voice over basics
> 
>
> Hi listers,
> 
> I am hoping you can point me towards detailed guides or tutorials that will
> help me develop a more advanced capability in using voice over on both the
> mac and in IOS.
> 
> I am hoping to start a degree next year and I suspect I will need to be much
> better than I am now. I currently use a bluetooth keyboard on the mac but
> have not yet paired one with my iphone. I've learned enough shortcuts to get
> around but see that many other listers use far more advanced techniques when
> it comes to text searching and editing and using the web.
> 
> I am hoping to use the time I have to become much more proficient,
> especially when away from home or using unfamiliar software.
> 
> Thanks for any thoughts
> 
> Ian
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RE: Beyond voice over basics

[David Griffith]

I am afraid there is a big gap in the market for intermediate to advanced
uses of Voiceover.

Frankly lists of this sort are as good a place to start as any, along with
Apple Vis as a good reference point.

If you are wanting to increase your proficiency with Office tools then Ann
Robinson on this list has helped many with training over Skype at apparently
reasonable rates I believe.

For myself, on the Mac, I stick to TextEdit and Siri for the time being.
For what it is worth here is how I set about things.

I have a blank Microsoft Word document on my iMac called blank.doc.
To start work I locate this document and press command D to copy it.
On the blank copy.doc I press enter and then dictate with siri a new
filename.
I then open it and start dictating my text. Probably a bit clunky but works
for me and I find it a lot easier than opening TextEdit and navigating
through the iCloud stuff etc.
I also find personally that setting pronunciation to all whilst writing on
the Mac prevents many formatting errors.

This is great for document creation but TextEdit will not have the advance
editing and formatting tools of a full blown Word Processor.

I cannot advise on advance tools such as indexing, table of content wizards
and text analysis  as I am afraid I still do these on a Windows platform.
If anybody can tell you how to do this on the Mac platform I too would be
interested.
Apparently Pages under Mavericks can now provide Voiceover feedback on
tables  though which is a good advance so I suspect that Pages under
mavericks is now  important for a Mac student providing capabilities like
mail merge are not required.

David Griffith.

.

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From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Ian Harrison
Sent: 08 November 2013 09:36
To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Beyond voice over basics


Hi listers,

I am hoping you can point me towards detailed guides or tutorials that will
help me develop a more advanced capability in using voice over on both the
mac and in IOS.

I am hoping to start a degree next year and I suspect I will need to be much
better than I am now. I currently use a bluetooth keyboard on the mac but
have not yet paired one with my iphone. I've learned enough shortcuts to get
around but see that many other listers use far more advanced techniques when
it comes to text searching and editing and using the web.

I am hoping to use the time I have to become much more proficient,
especially when away from home or using unfamiliar software.

Thanks for any thoughts

Ian
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Beyond voice over basics

[Ian Harrison]

Hi listers,

I am hoping you can point me towards detailed guides or tutorials that will 
help me develop a more advanced capability in using voice over on both the mac 
and in IOS.

I am hoping to start a degree next year and I suspect I will need to be much 
better than I am now. I currently use a bluetooth keyboard on the mac but have 
not yet paired one with my iphone. I've learned enough shortcuts to get around 
but see that many other listers use far more advanced techniques when it comes 
to text searching and editing and using the web.

I am hoping to use the time I have to become much more proficient, especially 
when away from home or using unfamiliar software.

Thanks for any thoughts

Ian
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